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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 05 2015 14:21 GMT
#901
On May 05 2015 22:58 Half the Sky wrote:
I respond to Shining 7m after he asks that and there's nothing else from him, there's a potential he lurks as ritoky actively leads the push. Generally speaking it's a scum tell to sit in the background like that.

That last post (that disinformation quoted) was his last post and it was 3h before EoD.


Ugh. Reread the filters and looked at the timestamps. You are correct.
*sigh* time to take away a bunch of townie brownies from the shining.

Why is this game so hard? xD
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 14:25 GMT
#902
I will vote prpl tomorrow. However, I really do not like disinfo's EoD summary post. There are way scummier things about prpl than sitting back after voting HtS. The fact that he ignores those worries me and makes me think that might be an attempt at a bus if prpl flips later without actually trying to get him lynched. Not to mention that's the only positive of his list there and it ignores the biggest things against prpl.

Not going to worry about that yet, but just something to note if prpl flips scum.

So far this game he's ignored me calling him out after his "I tried to spam myself town" post. His HtS push is an OMGUS and an incoherent meta rant. He hasn't been stubborn as shit when people call him scum. This ain't town prpl.

Going to read sone filters while I'm at work, I'll be in and out today.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 05 2015 14:33 GMT
#903
Stutters, you were obviously around at EoD. You responded to my ninja ping out within seconds. You were lurking. Why the fuck would you lurk at EoD if you were town?
Minimal effort.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 05 2015 14:40 GMT
#904
On May 05 2015 23:25 Stutters695 wrote:
I will vote prpl tomorrow. However, I really do not like disinfo's EoD summary post. There are way scummier things about prpl than sitting back after voting HtS. The fact that he ignores those worries me and makes me think that might be an attempt at a bus if prpl flips later without actually trying to get him lynched. Not to mention that's the only positive of his list there and it ignores the biggest things against prpl.

Not going to worry about that yet, but just something to note if prpl flips scum.


Which things? All that is in his filter is nothing and the start of the HtS push, where he was content to sit back really fast. Yes, there was also a really strange meta/tone read thingie, but I don't see how that is worse than doing jack shit all day and then reappearing with a push and not really following up on that push.

Slowly getting frustrated that everything I do is called scummy in some way. Seeing why scott just stopped at one point.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 05 2015 14:46 GMT
#905
inb4: someone complains this post didn't have smilies.
This one hasn't one either.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 05 2015 14:52 GMT
#906
On May 05 2015 23:33 Superbia wrote:
Stutters, you were obviously around at EoD. You responded to my ninja ping out within seconds. You were lurking. Why the fuck would you lurk at EoD if you were town?

this*1000
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 05 2015 14:52 GMT
#907
also inb4: Frustration is a sign for scum.

@Stutters:
Any other reads so far? Besides me and prplhz? Only other thing in your filter is talking about Superbia's ninja ping.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 05 2015 14:53 GMT
#908
i actually think stutters is best lynch tomorrow just for that single thing
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-05 17:14:09
May 05 2015 14:57 GMT
#909
Hajime votecount posted here by accident - edited out with Kita's permission.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 05 2015 14:58 GMT
#910
Oh shit, this is what happens when I have multiple tabs open.

*bangs head against wall*
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 05 2015 14:59 GMT
#911
Mods, can I edit that out?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 05 2015 15:02 GMT
#912
Back on topic. Shining when you return, I really want to see your thoughts on EoD. Also:

1 Your conclusions if any to my response to your question.
2 Your thoughts on the people that interpreted my response.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 15:23 GMT
#913
On May 05 2015 23:33 Superbia wrote:
Stutters, you were obviously around at EoD. You responded to my ninja ping out within seconds. You were lurking. Why the fuck would you lurk at EoD if you were town?

Nothing to say. I didn't agree with the HtS push, she clearly wasn't getting lynched and my scumread was. If it bothers you, I can post meaningless drivel until I see something to actually address but I'd rather not shit up the thread.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 15:24 GMT
#914
On May 05 2015 23:53 prplhz wrote:
i actually think stutters is best lynch tomorrow just for that single thing

Scum
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 05 2015 15:43 GMT
#915
I'm looking through Tictock's filter right now. This read progression on page 2 of his filter looks pretty bad/inconsistent (and therefore looks scumlike). Especially when he's saying that Scott looks town and then we have this progression of quotes in the span of these 2-3 hours.

On May 04 2015 16:16 Tictock wrote:
prplhz is looking pretty scum to me right now too. He made one post with actual content and even that was mostly an excuse as to why he isn't posting.

Scott put himself in a position where he looked pretty bad, but lately he's bee making an effort and seems fairly calm given the suspicions around him. That feels town to me, he's not ignoring what ppl say about him but he's not focused on defending himself either.

prp and HtS really need to contribute, SL and Stutters are also barely active & have contributed nothing solid thus far.


On May 04 2015 19:40 Tictock wrote:
I'm having a hard time deciding who I want to vote for as well.

Scott is still the most appealing case, even though I have some doubts.

I'm tempted to make a case against prp but there just isn't enough to go on. I just don't like his dismissive post regarding how he "spams town" normally and says he isn't around. If he is legit too busy to play a town would likely replace, this seems more like a scum excuse to skate by day 1.

Unfortunately that's all I have as prp, as well as several other ppl, just aren't active enough to make real reads on.


He's saying that Scott looks town - and by comparison townier than prplhz - then 2h later in his filter he's saying Scott is the most appealling case over prplhz over not as much to go off on. To me there is a jump in reasoning that looks scumlike and checking the thread itself (page 29) there is no further interaction from Scott (or prplhz) for him to then turn around and say "Scott is the most appealling case" (even with doubts) over prplhz, at least in his reasoning, when his reasoning on prplhz was consistently scum. He cites lack of activity on prplhz, and obv the lack of activity certainly doesn't make .

It just appears like that one sentence makes him look like he wants to blend in.

And it just gets better. I see his response to ritoky's questioning on the same post.

On May 05 2015 06:48 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 01:59 ritoky wrote:
looked @ ticktock's filter:

On May 04 2015 19:40 Tictock wrote:
I'm having a hard time deciding who I want to vote for as well.

Scott is still the most appealing case, even though I have some doubts.

I'm tempted to make a case against prp but there just isn't enough to go on. I just don't like his dismissive post regarding how he "spams town" normally and says he isn't around. If he is legit too busy to play a town would likely replace, this seems more like a scum excuse to skate by day 1.

Unfortunately that's all I have as prp, as well as several other ppl, just aren't active enough to make real reads on.


this post strikes me as odd...he is having a hard time deciding who to vote for, yet he thinks 1 guy is scum and the other guy is inactive and that's his two top scum reads? seems like not a hard decision there. i don't really understand where his hesitancy is coming from here.


My issue here was that the vote on scott felt too easy. It wouldn't add pressure as scott had already seemed to accept he is probably going to be the D1 lynch and would only put me into the "lynch scott" bandwagon. So while that was my obvious vote at the time I did not see that vote giving town any new info. I was pretty tempted, and probably should have just gone with it, to vote for prp to try and pressure him into posting.


So this (voting) was his justification for being hesistant to vote Scott in his original post? I went back and checked the timing of his thoughts (that ritoky quote) and the votecount at that time. The vote was still 2-1 against Scott, and at that time he was nowhere close to being the absolute wagon.

On May 04 2015 14:01 cakepie wrote:
VOTE COUNT:


scott31337 (2) : -Celestial-, sicklucker
sicklucker (1) : The Shining (X), scott31337 (X), Superbia
-Celestial- (0) : Superbia (X)
Half the Sky (0) : Superbia (X)

Not voting (10) : disformation, FecalFeast, Half the Sky, prplhz, ritoky, scott31337, Stutters695, The Shining, Tictock, y0su

The cycle will end at Monday, May 04 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), 18 hours from this post.
remain as you are reading this.

Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in the voting thread.

Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched!

If you see any vote out of place, holler at the hosting team so that we can correct it.


(Tictock's hesitancy is 19:40 per the timestamps, see above)

On May 04 2015 21:45 disformation wrote:
##Vote scott31337


Tictock's explanation to ritoky on the vote being too easy was completely inconsistent with why he felt hesitant to vote Scott because the votes certainly didn't reflect that at the time he was having doubts on Scott. It looks pretty scumlike for him.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 05 2015 15:44 GMT
#916
On May 06 2015 00:24 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 23:53 prplhz wrote:
i actually think stutters is best lynch tomorrow just for that single thing

Scum


More OMGUS from prplhz. Shocking.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 05 2015 15:46 GMT
#917
EBWOP - TLDR Version of the issue with Tictock

1 Jump in logic on Scott/inconsistency/hesitancy - was previously pointed out by ritoky
2 Voting excuse was inconsistent with his explanation for his hesistancy at the time he couldn't decide to vote Scott.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 05 2015 15:46 GMT
#918
Need to attend to a few more matters at work, so AFK again.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 05 2015 15:50 GMT
#919
Also....I'd really really really like to hear more from sicklucker. I realise you're in a second game....but so is Stutters and he's putting in some content. Just saying.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 16:04 GMT
#920
On May 05 2015 23:52 disformation wrote:
also inb4: Frustration is a sign for scum.

@Stutters:
Any other reads so far? Besides me and prplhz? Only other thing in your filter is talking about Superbia's ninja ping.


Softening on FF a bit. Not nearly lynch worthy yet, but he's going to take a reread.

This HtS discussion is stupid, she should not be lynched this early. She's easily one of the towniest players so far.

Sicklucker has been pretty scummy as well. Not a lot of content, but I don't like the stuff that's there either.
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