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On April 26 2015 12:24 rsoultin wrote:
shut up damdy ^^
i have my reasons for most things and regardless does it really matter where you're at on my list as long as i'm not lynching you? pbbbbfffttt xP
i said tone. it is like impossible for me to explain tone :/ i can't tell y'all how many times i have tried. but i really just never got this damn palmar is maybe scum this game vibe from him like ever
I can appreciate tone reads. More so than meta anyway.
On April 26 2015 12:27 rsoultin wrote:
so you have two bullets wave. who would you use them on right this second?
Probably yamato/trfel.
Haven't finished rereading artanis/damdred/breshke but at this point I think of everyone they look the worst even if the yamato thing gimme the jibblies.
Like....he's almost a unanimous scumread and he was almost lynched. Doesn't always bode well. But it also just makes sense.
argh
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On April 22 2015 06:18 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 06:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 22 2015 06:13 yamato77 wrote:On April 22 2015 06:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 22 2015 06:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
That doesn't force anything. They'll participate if they feel like it this game. Well, they can continue to do nothing, and then we can lynch them then bitch about them not playing to their win condition. The point is, we can give them time due to there not being a hard deadline, so there's no excuses for them not to participate. artanis, is this seriously your plan this game? Is there any point to this question? I mean, you're not going to look for a lynch among the active players, you're just going to default to sitting on Palmar/BH in the hopes of forcing them to play when they are both capable of astounding uselessness AS TOWN?
i believe it was this truffle was referring to? i also agree that yamato's explanation is fine though lol >< it's entirely that he insists we shouldn't be lynching but doesn't care to push artanis/damdred/you who he had apparently been scumreading before over bh...then afkd for 40 minutes so apparently, despite how strong he advocated to not lynch, he didn't feel the need to either push that through or push through a different wagon
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Oh I hate that post of yamato's and I've been pointing it out since the start but I hate it for different reasons.
I think ultimately this yamato business is going to boil down to us either lynching him tomorrow or agreeing to wait for him to come back. The entire thread has discussed him constantly.
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eh, tbh truffle is like always a toneread for me too ^^;
but people demand explanations and any time i try to explain a toneread it turns into meta lol >< hrum
i dunnae. i guess i could be wrong on truffle, as i said, just don't really think so? i wish he'd come back though -_-
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Honestly at this point to me its either
Trfel/Artanis
Artanis/Yamato
Maybe breshke has an outside shot meh
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i kinda think yamato needs to go or shit town rainbows just so we can move on lol ><
my problem is we need to get one of those four off the table. we have one mislynch left so...that's one possible scum too many xP
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Well just like any game, it helps when they actually play for us to read them.
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I want more talk about Artanis, so we can talk about something not yamato for a bit.
One thing of note I referenced earlier was how artanis sorta reads me. A lto of the time art waits for me to confirm myself town by just thought splattering when I reach that moment in the game where I "zen". He didn't do it at this point, instead he went from a light town read I believe to somewhat pushing me.
Then decided maybe i'm town because I pushed him? It doesn't line up with how art usually reads me
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^^; that's like completely unverifiable from my perspective, damdy, you know that right?
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Ehhh look at guardians right before he died when he was waffling on my alignment. And I just went nuts in the thread adding tons of thoughts talking to whoever and I didn't push anyone and art goes well damdred confirmed himself town.
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Honestly its a bit frustrating all anyone wants to talk about is Yamato and everyone keeps saying I need to reread x and talks about Yamato some more.
Leave the Yamato talk alone for a bit and talk about someone else meh.
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lol well i don't think i'm gonna get much further talking about breshke, and i'm pretty stubborn about my toneread on truffle, so unless y'all have something new to bring to the table in that respect?
as far as artanis is concerned...i remember him being kinda strategically absent at certain times in imperial, which this is a little reminiscent of, but i really don't have a good way to read him. i wasn't joking about letting other players who know him better pick up my slack there lol >< you've convinced me enough that i'd be fine voting him?
like, basically i'm in a pretty solid place right now because i still kinda think truffle is town, so as long as we lynch yamato/art/breshke before him we should win from my perspective? course lol >< i could be wrong (doubt it) or more likely just not be around when he's up for lynch and somehow ends up being lynched before the second scum
like i really don't see how much more help i can be at this point, damdy? but i'll read what you post
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Hi,
I'm sorry for my absence. I was at a movie-watching event for all three Hobbit films and all three Lord of the Rings films. I'm a bit sleepy at the moment.
I'll catch up tomorrow as soon as I can.
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I think its everything I posted want other people to comment on and also the uneveness how he's town reading people meh.
I think what I have posted is really good
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On April 26 2015 13:57 Damdred wrote:
I think its everything I posted want other people to comment on and also the uneveness how he's town reading people meh.
I think what I have posted is really good
-snugs- ^^ it's good enough to make me not want to lynch you and be willing to sheep you on artanis? so there's that lol >< you sound so mopey ise sorreh
i also may be a little tipsy again :/ i didn't expect to be this sad about leaving the military lol ><
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Okay, you have me for a few hours.
Make it worthwhile.
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on you not us
we want to lynch you
convince me to lynch someone else ^^
ah the simplicity lolol ><
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Yamato read everything I said about trdel/artanis give opinions if you would
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alright damdred
I will read your posts
you seem like a reasonable dude this game
and you owe me for last game
so yeah.
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Before I delve into your posts, Damdred, I'll say that I haven't liked Artanis from the start, so it's pretty easy for me to get on to the idea of him being mafia. His whole "you made me mad so now I'm NOT going to play the game" thing was a weak response to my pressure and I should have pushed it more.
His trfel read kinda synced with mine a bit at eod so I wavered but with rso basically calling him (trfel) conf town I dunno if my read is even good so I can't give Artanis much credit there even if we had the same problem with trfel.
So I assume you mean these posts, where you outline your problems with Artanis
On April 26 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:On April 26 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote:
Talk to me about Artanis Rsoultin. artie is hard for me to read :/ like...i liked his post about you xP i wouldn't lynch you over yamato but i see a lot of the things he brought up as well. it's sorta a soft defense of yamato? but if yamato is scum i almost feel like it's in artanis' favor to jump on that rather than try to direct the lynch elsewhere i also like how he revisited his truffle read >< and yes i'm aware that this is just me agreeing with what he's saying my problem is i know he has a good scumgame; i've seen him just give up as scum but he came back into today willing to discuss things and reads and i can see his thought progression i kinda feel like it's to scum's advantage to let the thread continue to stagnate, which wasn't the sense i got from him today (or you, for that matter) which is one of the reasons why i'm feeling a bit better about the both of you and a bit worse about truffle A few things really, I felt like today particularly there was a bit more omgus in Artanis for instance in how he dealt with me. Are my reads at that point in the thread substantial? Not really no, are they up to my standards? No not really. But he would rather think i should be the lynch than Yamato? That doesn't necessarily make sense to me in that regard. For instance look at what hes done this day, hes called my case on trfel bad. Which maybe it is, i think that there still might be something there. Voted Palmar unvoted, and then said that I should be the lynch over Yamato. Not sure that there is much reevaluation. Also it is also of note that he didn't get really active for his burst until I pinged him out. Which is interesting.
I can't really speak to the flow of the game sort of stuff like OMGUS response and reactive activity seeing as I'm reading everything in hindsight, so this post in and of itself doesn't mean a whole lot to me.
On April 26 2015 07:15 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 07:10 rsoultin wrote:On April 26 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:On April 26 2015 07:04 rsoultin wrote:On April 26 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:On April 26 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:On April 26 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote:
Talk to me about Artanis Rsoultin. artie is hard for me to read :/ like...i liked his post about you xP i wouldn't lynch you over yamato but i see a lot of the things he brought up as well. it's sorta a soft defense of yamato? but if yamato is scum i almost feel like it's in artanis' favor to jump on that rather than try to direct the lynch elsewhere i also like how he revisited his truffle read >< and yes i'm aware that this is just me agreeing with what he's saying my problem is i know he has a good scumgame; i've seen him just give up as scum but he came back into today willing to discuss things and reads and i can see his thought progression i kinda feel like it's to scum's advantage to let the thread continue to stagnate, which wasn't the sense i got from him today (or you, for that matter) which is one of the reasons why i'm feeling a bit better about the both of you and a bit worse about truffle A few things really, I felt like today particularly there was a bit more omgus in Artanis for instance in how he dealt with me. Are my reads at that point in the thread substantial? Not really no, are they up to my standards? No not really. But he would rather think i should be the lynch than Yamato? That doesn't necessarily make sense to me in that regard. For instance look at what hes done this day, hes called my case on trfel bad. Which maybe it is, i think that there still might be something there. Voted Palmar unvoted, and then said that I should be the lynch over Yamato. Not sure that there is much reevaluation. Also it is also of note that he didn't get really active for his burst until I pinged him out. Which is interesting. hmm that may be true i'd have to take another look at when he started talking :/ and his general read progression on the both of y'all there was definitely re-evaluation on truffle, though, that much i'm sure of and i kinda get the vote palmar, unvote thing...isn't it a thing to push palmar to see how he responds to get a read? i thought it was. i know that palmar typically encourages it, and palmar did come out looking more townie for it lol >< anyway give me a bit to look into that Well one thing to understand about Palmar is in this type of situation what does one vote do? Its no where close to picking up steam he is in peoples POE list but does that guarantee hes going to get up and going just because he has 1/5 votes needed its not pressurish at all imo. It could of turned into that if other people hopped on the wagon, but i'm not so sure about it especially. But Art did push off a Yamato lynch I believe when he first started talking about me after my trfel post earlier in this cycle. And then he said i should be the lynch over Yamato because my reads aren't intricate and mostly fluff. But then he neither pushes Palmar for l ynch really or pushes me to an extent, if you think that Yamato shouldnt' be the lynch and either one of Palmar/Damdred should why would you sit back and really do nothing to influence what people think? that's a fair point. i thought he was scumreading yamato though? Show nested quote +On April 24 2015 22:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I definitely don't want to lynch Yamato today or probably any day. His mafia game is much worse than what he's shown so far and he cares too much. Just an exert then we have this Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 03:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Meta is great though. Especially when you apply it incorrectly and presume that since Marv once told you that Yamato is absolutely terrible at scum, you figure he can't have 4 pages so far and have pushed some things.
Actually a problem I see in his filter is that he's droning on about the same things over and over again. First WoS, then the thing with me on waiting for Palmar/BH to contribute, and then on BH. He doesn't really re-evaluate anything nor does he share many thoughts on other things than whatever he's chasing at the time.
Could prob lynch/10. Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 03:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 26 2015 03:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 26 2015 03:20 rsoultin wrote:On April 21 2015 12:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
They were real reads before I realized the premise was wrong. And why the fuck do I have to call you town?
Why are you fishing for townreads from me yamato? You're behaving so oddly, and it's not even your normal hyper-aggressive early game push that Im used to.
I just wanted to wreck scum with you for once. Just once. Apparently it was too much to ask. from the one who doesn't like to use meta xP It's an observation, and I'm not calling him scum based on that. He's absolutely behaving oddly, even ignoring what I already know of him. On April 26 2015 03:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 26 2015 03:17 WaveofShadow wrote:Especially when you apply it incorrectly and presume that since Marv once told you that Yamato is absolutely terrible at scum, you figure he can't have 4 pages so far and have pushed some things.
Where did I do this? And no in my experience meta is shit terrible, and I am certainly not marv, one of very few people who can maybe attempt to use it correctly. essentially the call is are we feeling lynchy or do we wait for yamato And frankly by the time 48h rolls around im always feeling lynchy I want to see a flip so I'll sheep rsoul ##unvote
##vote: yamato77 Sorry, I didn't mean that you did this, I meant that I did that. So that means you found him town earlier based on him pushing some stuff 'cause meta and now you're rethinking it? Basically, yes. I think I might want to lynch Damdred over him though. His list post is followed by a bunch of fluff that doesn't really say anything and doesn't have any of the intricate reads Damdred usually has. It's so unrefined and fluffy, and his apologetic tone on "I know it's pretty global" only compounds it. Finally this, i went through Arts filter and there is no Yamato scum read in it. Just things like, I could make better posts but that doesn't make Yamato scum etc.,
This post, where you ping out his changing read on me, is quite interesting.
Notably, I literally haven't given a new read since eod, so how could Artanis go from such a confident strong townread to such a weak justification of voting for me in such a short time? ritoky did this sort of thing as scum in the last game and it really brought him forward to me as possible mafia.
His follow-up where he continues to push you while casually calling me mafia is quite interesting though. Wouldn't it be really easy for scum Artanis to just flock to the herd rather than continue to ping you out?
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