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On April 26 2015 11:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
BTW, it's shit like this that made me question Trfel about 100 times. It didn't take me that long to go through the posts I had missed/skimmed, so why does it take him hours to read like 3 pages when he says he's doing it?
If anyone's around I'm up to talk, though apparently my timing is shit compared to everyone else's. Gonna reread Trfel/Breshke/Damdred/Artanis in the meantime.
dunnae but it always does? lol ><
i get that you don't like the meta which is why i didn't really want to go into it...i feel like he's capable of looking town when he tries, anyway
anyway...lol >< i could just be wrong on bresh i dunnae...would be pretty damn easy if it was just yamato/artanis and easy definitely has its appeal
and i guess i could be wrong on truffle, too
do you mind quoting the yamato post you're referring to? i want to make sure we're talking about the same thing
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On April 26 2015 11:51 rsoultin wrote:
mrt kinda tired :/ honestly...still looking up stuff for school and basically just gave up cause bleh -_-
anyway
it's mostly just the lack of scumreads :/ i know that it's hard for you to generate scumreads as scum lol >< and the complete lack of presence this day phase up to this point. i also feel like a lot of your interaction with people was kind of periphery this game...the mediating in the wave/yamato thing for instance
like there are some other minor things here and there but those two issues are my main issues with you. like i don't understand if you have no scumreads why you wouldn't be in here banging down doors trying to find a good lynch. does that make sense? (yes i'm aware that there's a time difference, but that doesn't explain the entirety of your contributions yesterday consisting of asking palmar why he was townreading you lol ><)
Lol yesterday was ANZAC day (australian thing idk if you know what it is) I was up at 4 am for a dawn service thing then was rekt because of that for the rest of the day so I really cbf'd especially considering the thread was kind of dead which is bad but ehh.
Idk i was fishing for something from palmar he wasn't biting then he gave a good case by himself and I sheeped it so it does feel like I have a scumread at least to me even though it isn't my own thought.
Also idk how much i mediated between yamato and wave since if i remember it was basically me just calling wave town or a least the reasons you guys were scum reading him wrong.
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Rsoul is this how you are currently reading the game?
Rsoul
wave
truffle
damdred
art
bresh
yamato
?
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On April 26 2015 11:59 Damdred wrote:
Rsoul is this how you are currently reading the game?
Rsoul
wave
truffle
damdred
art
bresh
yamato
?
more like
rsoul
wave
palmar
truffle/damdred
art/bresh
yamato
^^
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On April 26 2015 11:58 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 11:51 rsoultin wrote:
mrt kinda tired :/ honestly...still looking up stuff for school and basically just gave up cause bleh -_-
anyway
it's mostly just the lack of scumreads :/ i know that it's hard for you to generate scumreads as scum lol >< and the complete lack of presence this day phase up to this point. i also feel like a lot of your interaction with people was kind of periphery this game...the mediating in the wave/yamato thing for instance
like there are some other minor things here and there but those two issues are my main issues with you. like i don't understand if you have no scumreads why you wouldn't be in here banging down doors trying to find a good lynch. does that make sense? (yes i'm aware that there's a time difference, but that doesn't explain the entirety of your contributions yesterday consisting of asking palmar why he was townreading you lol ><) Lol yesterday was ANZAC day (australian thing idk if you know what it is) I was up at 4 am for a dawn service thing then was rekt because of that for the rest of the day so I really cbf'd especially considering the thread was kind of dead which is bad but ehh. Idk i was fishing for something from palmar he wasn't biting then he gave a good case by himself and I sheeped it so it does feel like I have a scumread at least to me even though it isn't my own thought. Also idk how much i mediated between yamato and wave since if i remember it was basically me just calling wave town or a least the reasons you guys were scum reading him wrong.
lol >< dude, when will people figure out the difference between pressure and scumreading?
eh, doesn't matter, that's neither here nor there, and it was pretty relevant trying to get him to expound on his townread on artanis cause frankly i've never quite understood why so many of you had him high on your town lists xP
okay, sure, so i guess you're at yamato and artanis now, is that right?
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On April 26 2015 12:06 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 11:58 Breshke wrote:On April 26 2015 11:51 rsoultin wrote:
mrt kinda tired :/ honestly...still looking up stuff for school and basically just gave up cause bleh -_-
anyway
it's mostly just the lack of scumreads :/ i know that it's hard for you to generate scumreads as scum lol >< and the complete lack of presence this day phase up to this point. i also feel like a lot of your interaction with people was kind of periphery this game...the mediating in the wave/yamato thing for instance
like there are some other minor things here and there but those two issues are my main issues with you. like i don't understand if you have no scumreads why you wouldn't be in here banging down doors trying to find a good lynch. does that make sense? (yes i'm aware that there's a time difference, but that doesn't explain the entirety of your contributions yesterday consisting of asking palmar why he was townreading you lol ><) Lol yesterday was ANZAC day (australian thing idk if you know what it is) I was up at 4 am for a dawn service thing then was rekt because of that for the rest of the day so I really cbf'd especially considering the thread was kind of dead which is bad but ehh. Idk i was fishing for something from palmar he wasn't biting then he gave a good case by himself and I sheeped it so it does feel like I have a scumread at least to me even though it isn't my own thought. Also idk how much i mediated between yamato and wave since if i remember it was basically me just calling wave town or a least the reasons you guys were scum reading him wrong. lol >< dude, when will people figure out the difference between pressure and scumreading? eh, doesn't matter, that's neither here nor there, and it was pretty relevant trying to get him to expound on his townread on artanis cause frankly i've never quite understood why so many of you had him high on your town lists xP okay, sure, so i guess you're at yamato and artanis now, is that right?
Yaaah but that feels iffy because i knew i read him town early (art) but am kinda doing stuff right now so cant properly filter dive until later tonight.
Why do you think palmar is townier than damdred/trfel
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Sad day im not higher and you have me linked with possible scum  .
I actually think Yamato is towny in his filter I did a bit of research on yamatos scum games. He's not really destroying thread here and much more active than his sxum games. He has fallen off considerably this 48 hours and that is a red flag but he did the same thing in mini mafia 2 which just ended.
I don't think it 100% clears him but I think his filter is really indicative of a town Yamato at this point.
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Sorry I lied, was playing SG a bit.
Am defs here now and rereading.
On April 26 2015 11:56 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 11:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
BTW, it's shit like this that made me question Trfel about 100 times. It didn't take me that long to go through the posts I had missed/skimmed, so why does it take him hours to read like 3 pages when he says he's doing it?
If anyone's around I'm up to talk, though apparently my timing is shit compared to everyone else's. Gonna reread Trfel/Breshke/Damdred/Artanis in the meantime. dunnae but it always does? lol >< i get that you don't like the meta which is why i didn't really want to go into it...i feel like he's capable of looking town when he tries, anyway anyway...lol >< i could just be wrong on bresh i dunnae...would be pretty damn easy if it was just yamato/artanis and easy definitely has its appeal and i guess i could be wrong on truffle, too do you mind quoting the yamato post you're referring to? i want to make sure we're talking about the same thing
What are you referring to?
The taunting/boasting post was the one right after the lynch, and I think the one you've beenr eferring to is his long response post after you called him out for it.
The point I'm trying to make is it's the taunting itself I find hard to come from scum whereas you said the explaining negates it somehow.
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lol it's a toneread
and no it makes no objective sense whatsoever :/ but i dunnae
i think artanis actually nailed it earlier
it's like palmar's doing nothing but what he wants to do and fuck anyone who thinks he should be doing anything else lol >< that particular mixture seems like stubborn, lazy town palmar
truffle's absence is getting to me :/ damdred i'm just not ready to completely 180 on. i liked our discussion today, he's in my probably maybe townie group with truffle and that's as much as i'm willing to give him at the moment
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On April 26 2015 12:14 WaveofShadow wrote:Sorry I lied, was playing SG a bit. Am defs here now and rereading. Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 11:56 rsoultin wrote:On April 26 2015 11:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
BTW, it's shit like this that made me question Trfel about 100 times. It didn't take me that long to go through the posts I had missed/skimmed, so why does it take him hours to read like 3 pages when he says he's doing it?
If anyone's around I'm up to talk, though apparently my timing is shit compared to everyone else's. Gonna reread Trfel/Breshke/Damdred/Artanis in the meantime. dunnae but it always does? lol >< i get that you don't like the meta which is why i didn't really want to go into it...i feel like he's capable of looking town when he tries, anyway anyway...lol >< i could just be wrong on bresh i dunnae...would be pretty damn easy if it was just yamato/artanis and easy definitely has its appeal and i guess i could be wrong on truffle, too do you mind quoting the yamato post you're referring to? i want to make sure we're talking about the same thing What are you referring to? The taunting/boasting post was the one right after the lynch, and I think the one you've beenr eferring to is his long response post after you called him out for it. The point I'm trying to make is it's the taunting itself I find hard to come from scum whereas you said the explaining negates it somehow.
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... yeah i just did that
hold on
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I've added like 4 pages to my filter in 6 hours that was a dead thread O-o no scum motivation and original content shame on you.
And nah palmar can be that as scum to
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On April 26 2015 12:13 Damdred wrote:Sad day im not higher and you have me linked with possible scum . I actually think Yamato is towny in his filter I did a bit of research on yamatos scum games. He's not really destroying thread here and much more active than his sxum games. He has fallen off considerably this 48 hours and that is a red flag but he did the same thing in mini mafia 2 which just ended. I don't think it 100% clears him but I think his filter is really indicative of a town Yamato at this point.
WARNING: META
Yamato's activity falls off in pretty much any game, but as scum it's just likely to be a hell of a lot more fall-off-y. As town he usually has some sort of catalyst that brings him back into the game whether pressure/scum lynch/something crazy happening and as scum that doesn't exist and he more or less gives up/shits things up as you said. This game has moved pretty slowly thus far and it's hard to tell here which is which even were I to use meta.
The other thing about mini mafia 2 is he's probably super demoralized from it for losing the game at LYLO.
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On April 26 2015 12:16 Damdred wrote:
I've added like 4 pages to my filter in 6 hours that was a dead thread O-o no scum motivation and original content shame on you.
And nah palmar can be that as scum to
Unfortunately this doesn't mean shit when you're conversing back and forth with obvtown and you're not under any real pressure. Despite popular belief, posting is not all that hard as scum, nor is creating content. I'm not a huge fan of clearing people based on number of pages and I don't like that you'd bring it up. I find self-meta to be kinda scummy.
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On April 24 2015 09:48 yamato77 wrote:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/410972-les-mafia?user=Blazinghand&page=16had 16 pages of filter as town before he was mislynched yes, blazinghand is capable of astounding uselessness, but he's also capable of that he literally promised activity, and showed effort in the large case, no reason to rush lynching him as mafia, it would have been incredibly easy to just say nothing and have his lynch go through, but whatever gj on the mislynch, folks
this was the post after the lynch...and it followed truffle's comment about his read on bh being contradictory and my post here:
On April 24 2015 09:42 rsoultin wrote:
xP you should, palmar
hrum anyway
i think it's worthwhile to look at the context of that change, truffle, but that's a contradiction in yamato's overall perception of blazinghand's play...which really shouldn't change that much from day-to-day without some sort of catalyst or something o.0
like he posted 6 minutes later, and again, it was in response to truffle and myself
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On April 26 2015 12:19 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 12:16 Damdred wrote:
I've added like 4 pages to my filter in 6 hours that was a dead thread O-o no scum motivation and original content shame on you.
And nah palmar can be that as scum to Unfortunately this doesn't mean shit when you're conversing back and forth with obvtown and you're not under any real pressure. Despite popular belief, posting is not all that hard as scum, nor is creating content. I'm not a huge fan of clearing people based on number of pages and I don't like that you'd bring it up. I find self-meta to be kinda scummy.
I think you missed the obvious sarcasm towards rsoultin in the shame shame part
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shut up damdy ^^
i have my reasons for most things and regardless does it really matter where you're at on my list as long as i'm not lynching you? pbbbbfffttt xP
i said tone. it is like impossible for me to explain tone :/ i can't tell y'all how many times i have tried. but i really just never got this damn palmar is maybe scum this game vibe from him like ever
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so you have two bullets wave. who would you use them on right this second?
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Ok I thought you were referring to the response after.
Let me see...uhh what's contradictory about his stance exactly?
Oh ok this one
On April 23 2015 08:21 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2015 08:17 rsoultin wrote:
how many days do you want to put off lynching, yamato?
he was in the thread last night and being obstructive. did you say you liked his case? what did you like about it? I said it wasn't that bad Do you really believe ONLY scum BH makes a case like that? I certainly don't. I don't even like damdred that much this game. I don't really care for his responses to the case either. He essentially came out with nothing. How was he being obstructive? He argued about his case, sure, but who wouldn't want to defend their piece of work? It's silly to scumread him for believing his read. What do we really lose by not lynching right now, exactly? I argued against this sort of idea before but only as a means to actually apply pressure. It doesn't mean anything to lynch BH here because he's really only been in the thread to post his case and defend it.
The thing is, it's only this post itself which is contradictory. Every other post he has made regarding BH he seems to think BH could be town, or at least to delay things.
On April 23 2015 08:10 yamato77 wrote:
looking back at one memorable BH-mislynch, the guy got REALLY active once it was apparent he was going to be lynched.
is it really imperative that we lynch him without giving him a proper chance?
I mean, if he's scum he's going to continue to delay and be useless and probably just tunnel damdred (a la single-focus mindset in aperture). As town, maybe he becomes more useful?
On April 23 2015 07:39 yamato77 wrote:
btw, if anyone wants my take on BH meta I'll go dig up a couple old games but it's not incredibly conclusive
On April 23 2015 07:45 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2015 07:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BH deserves to be lynched for not posting the British Empire Mafia post-game analysis anyway. So you consent to the BH lynch, Artanis? or...?
Hedging bets, maybe?
Eh.
Considering his explanation of the one post I dunno if it's all that bad. Like the one thing he said that could be taken in favor of a BH lynch is 'what do we lose by lynching here exactly' but in the sam,e paragraph he says it doesn't mean anything to lynch BH so I don't find the perceived contradiciton conclusive especially in light of his explanation. The lack of....anything and maybe hedging the bets looks worse I suppose
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I know its not towards me but art and truffle boom boom.
I do agree palmar probably isn't scum though.
Also I'm not sure its applicable but art has a certain style about reading me based on a carrying few factors and he's not using it here sadly
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