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Also, since i'm actually trying to be involved I think we as a thread need to just go ahead and say we are making all days 72 hours.
We are automatically losing 24 hours of information due to the silent nights. If we extend our lynching cycle by 24 hours unless hapa says otherwise we should just add an extra 24 hours to what we would normally do.
So we should lynch tomorrow at this time. It extends the game but we get more information in the same amount of cycles I think.
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Est 2h till I an join conv sation
I'm up to lynch before that if you want but my activity drops as of Monday so even tho I want flippies I'm OK to waot
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On April 26 2015 07:17 rsoultin wrote:? OG shit? like why are you sheeping him if you don't think his reasons are any good? i can scumread you for not having any scumreads ^^ i'm pretty sure, regardless. in fact if i wanted to i could scumread you for having a dick, cause frankly, i don't have to scumread you for good reasons at all. isn't it better that i actually have one, though? 
Soz ment priginal shit and by shit i mean stuff so not literal shit.
This post makes no sense to me whatsoever idk if its cos its the morning.
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##Unvote
To extend the day
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On April 26 2015 07:21 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 07:17 rsoultin wrote:? OG shit? like why are you sheeping him if you don't think his reasons are any good? i can scumread you for not having any scumreads ^^ i'm pretty sure, regardless. in fact if i wanted to i could scumread you for having a dick, cause frankly, i don't have to scumread you for good reasons at all. isn't it better that i actually have one, though? Soz ment priginal shit and by shit i mean stuff so not literal shit. This post makes no sense to me whatsoever idk if its cos its the morning.
EBWOP ORIGINAL nor prignal
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Palmar is going to be kinda pissy but that will be ok.
So, I actually feel kinda good about what i'm saying about Artanis right here, what changed from point A to point B on Yamato necessarily? Just Palmar dropping a decent case that Art doesn't even sheep but pushes me instead.
I like that.
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On April 26 2015 05:50 rsoultin wrote:yo, wave, that bragging bit you were saying was unlikely to come from a scum yama? xP he only started talking about it after i followed up on truffle's point that yamato's view of bh was contradictory (lazy as fuck -> he'll put forth the effort if given the chance), so...don't think that argument in favor of yamato's play holds water i don't think his push on you early on was terrible? the one against artanis was pretty blah though -_- and having no alternative after pushing hard at you and artanis and even saying he didn't like damdy, then disappearing for 40 minutes before the lynch after saying we should give bh more time, just looks bad, frankly Show nested quote +On April 24 2015 10:29 yamato77 wrote:On April 24 2015 10:24 rsoultin wrote:
strategy talk aside i'm actually fine with how you handled the bh lynch, though...looks pretty natural at a second look
mmmmrrrrt i was supposed to be doing schoolwork >< you distractions xP while you're doing that, I'll be formulating updated reads also this was almost 48 hours ago lol >< and no, no new reads
that is mostly why i am scumreading yamato yes...do i need more reasons that that, really?
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On April 26 2015 07:24 Damdred wrote:
Palmar is going to be kinda pissy but that will be ok.
So, I actually feel kinda good about what i'm saying about Artanis right here, what changed from point A to point B on Yamato necessarily? Just Palmar dropping a decent case that Art doesn't even sheep but pushes me instead.
I like that.
lol my only real reservation there damdy is that post really wasn't any good or up to your usual standards
the timing is certainly interesting, though >< i take it from your comment that you don't consider artanis to generally be an omgus type of player?
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i'll rephrase; it was decent but not super!damdy like most of us have come to expect
the more i talk to you though the more i think you probably are just in a slump. i like where your head's at
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Votecount:
Trfel(0)-
Damdred(0)-
Palmar(0)-
Yamato77(2)-Palmar, WaveofShadow
until the possible day end
With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch
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On April 26 2015 07:29 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 07:24 Damdred wrote:
Palmar is going to be kinda pissy but that will be ok.
So, I actually feel kinda good about what i'm saying about Artanis right here, what changed from point A to point B on Yamato necessarily? Just Palmar dropping a decent case that Art doesn't even sheep but pushes me instead.
I like that. lol my only real reservation there damdy is that post really wasn't any good or up to your usual standards the timing is certainly interesting, though >< i take it from your comment that you don't consider artanis to generally be an omgus type of player?
Artanis doesn't seem like the type of player to give into omgus.
I sort of hesitate to an extent just because I was so meh before the past 4 pages more than likely, however why would you town read me before this cycle when that first sorta list post today had any sort of real reads in it and any thought.
So not sure why art would flip so fast just because I pinged him out, its not like i wasn't crappy before that point.
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On April 26 2015 07:27 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 05:50 rsoultin wrote:yo, wave, that bragging bit you were saying was unlikely to come from a scum yama? xP he only started talking about it after i followed up on truffle's point that yamato's view of bh was contradictory (lazy as fuck -> he'll put forth the effort if given the chance), so...don't think that argument in favor of yamato's play holds water i don't think his push on you early on was terrible? the one against artanis was pretty blah though -_- and having no alternative after pushing hard at you and artanis and even saying he didn't like damdy, then disappearing for 40 minutes before the lynch after saying we should give bh more time, just looks bad, frankly On April 24 2015 10:29 yamato77 wrote:On April 24 2015 10:24 rsoultin wrote:
strategy talk aside i'm actually fine with how you handled the bh lynch, though...looks pretty natural at a second look
mmmmrrrrt i was supposed to be doing schoolwork >< you distractions xP while you're doing that, I'll be formulating updated reads also this was almost 48 hours ago lol >< and no, no new reads that is mostly why i am scumreading yamato yes...do i need more reasons that that, really?
No lol this is my point exactly. This is good enough to scumread yama.
But if you think this is original and not just a sheep pf palmars thing your kidding yourself.
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On April 26 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:
i'll rephrase; it was decent but not super!damdy like most of us have come to expect
the more i talk to you though the more i think you probably are just in a slump. i like where your head's at
3 finals papers
5 16 hour days in a row.
12 hours of sleep in 7 days 5 days so far. Just one shift to go!
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I rly have to go now. bye
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On April 26 2015 07:32 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 07:27 rsoultin wrote:On April 26 2015 05:50 rsoultin wrote:yo, wave, that bragging bit you were saying was unlikely to come from a scum yama? xP he only started talking about it after i followed up on truffle's point that yamato's view of bh was contradictory (lazy as fuck -> he'll put forth the effort if given the chance), so...don't think that argument in favor of yamato's play holds water i don't think his push on you early on was terrible? the one against artanis was pretty blah though -_- and having no alternative after pushing hard at you and artanis and even saying he didn't like damdy, then disappearing for 40 minutes before the lynch after saying we should give bh more time, just looks bad, frankly On April 24 2015 10:29 yamato77 wrote:On April 24 2015 10:24 rsoultin wrote:
strategy talk aside i'm actually fine with how you handled the bh lynch, though...looks pretty natural at a second look
mmmmrrrrt i was supposed to be doing schoolwork >< you distractions xP while you're doing that, I'll be formulating updated reads also this was almost 48 hours ago lol >< and no, no new reads that is mostly why i am scumreading yamato yes...do i need more reasons that that, really? No lol this is my point exactly. This is good enough to scumread yama. But if you think this is original and not just a sheep pf palmars thing your kidding yourself.
i think it is quite amusing that you are trying to compare my alignment to yours by saying that i'm sheeping palmar, too (i never claimed not to be) when i actually have brought original scumreads/suspicions to the table (including on yamato) and you have not at all on anyone with the notable exception of saying that we were two of your non-townreads who townread each other...which means essentially zilch anyway
you know who else i'm sheeping? truffle xP his second point is one of the points i agree with and i think makes yamato more likely scum
the 40 minutes comment was entirely mine, and also that his "bragging" isn't alignment indicative when he was asked about his contradiction in reads on BH
now go do something worthwhile, like address the actual reason i'm scumreading you, rather than trying to compare us to one another. you're not me
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On April 22 2015 06:48 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 06:45 rsoultin wrote:On April 22 2015 06:43 yamato77 wrote:On April 22 2015 06:38 rsoultin wrote:On April 22 2015 06:37 yamato77 wrote:On April 22 2015 06:34 rsoultin wrote:On April 22 2015 06:31 yamato77 wrote:
like, the advantage of IML to me is that it's REALLY easy to put pressure on people by just piling a few votes on and making that player respond to them
alignments are generally more obvious as someone is going to get lynched
in a normal game, you really only get the chance to do this to like, one or two people per day
but in IML you can do it to literally every person
sure, we have all the time in the world, but it's stupid to waste it waiting on known trolls like BH/Palmar to play the game then who do you want to lynch in the next 2.5 hours, yama? the point is the threat of the lynch you use it actively as a tool to force people to play the game you don't use it passively and hope they play the game then do it? no one is stopping you do you think he's town, or something? Why do you wish to play foil? xP i'm going to vote for who i think is scum, and i'm not interested in rushing a vote today. i think artie wanting to give bh/palmar time to participate isn't scum-favored and this whole push is silly -shrugs- but he's actively using it as an excuse to do fuck-all himself. Like, he's waiting on the two players in this game that I would have ZERO expectation to suddenly become active of their own free will. Maybe you don't have the history with BH/Palmar but I do, and Artanis should know better than to passively wait for them to play. I'm fine with the idea of not lynching today, but you can't just sit back and expect the game to come to you.
I was rereading Yamatos filter, and I really really like this post. and exchange
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On April 26 2015 07:41 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 06:48 yamato77 wrote:On April 22 2015 06:45 rsoultin wrote:On April 22 2015 06:43 yamato77 wrote:On April 22 2015 06:38 rsoultin wrote:On April 22 2015 06:37 yamato77 wrote:On April 22 2015 06:34 rsoultin wrote:On April 22 2015 06:31 yamato77 wrote:
like, the advantage of IML to me is that it's REALLY easy to put pressure on people by just piling a few votes on and making that player respond to them
alignments are generally more obvious as someone is going to get lynched
in a normal game, you really only get the chance to do this to like, one or two people per day
but in IML you can do it to literally every person
sure, we have all the time in the world, but it's stupid to waste it waiting on known trolls like BH/Palmar to play the game then who do you want to lynch in the next 2.5 hours, yama? the point is the threat of the lynch you use it actively as a tool to force people to play the game you don't use it passively and hope they play the game then do it? no one is stopping you do you think he's town, or something? Why do you wish to play foil? xP i'm going to vote for who i think is scum, and i'm not interested in rushing a vote today. i think artie wanting to give bh/palmar time to participate isn't scum-favored and this whole push is silly -shrugs- but he's actively using it as an excuse to do fuck-all himself. Like, he's waiting on the two players in this game that I would have ZERO expectation to suddenly become active of their own free will. Maybe you don't have the history with BH/Palmar but I do, and Artanis should know better than to passively wait for them to play. I'm fine with the idea of not lynching today, but you can't just sit back and expect the game to come to you. I was rereading Yamatos filter, and I really really like this post. and exchange
ehhh i like some of it (the exchange) until he went off the rails, and more importantly i didn't like how it wasn't apparently enough to push for an artanis lynch over BH ^^
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On April 26 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:On April 26 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote:
Talk to me about Artanis Rsoultin. artie is hard for me to read :/ like...i liked his post about you xP i wouldn't lynch you over yamato but i see a lot of the things he brought up as well. it's sorta a soft defense of yamato? but if yamato is scum i almost feel like it's in artanis' favor to jump on that rather than try to direct the lynch elsewhere i also like how he revisited his truffle read >< and yes i'm aware that this is just me agreeing with what he's saying my problem is i know he has a good scumgame; i've seen him just give up as scum but he came back into today willing to discuss things and reads and i can see his thought progression i kinda feel like it's to scum's advantage to let the thread continue to stagnate, which wasn't the sense i got from him today (or you, for that matter) which is one of the reasons why i'm feeling a bit better about the both of you and a bit worse about truffle A few things really, I felt like today particularly there was a bit more omgus in Artanis for instance in how he dealt with me. Are my reads at that point in the thread substantial? Not really no, are they up to my standards? No not really. But he would rather think i should be the lynch than Yamato? That doesn't necessarily make sense to me in that regard. For instance look at what hes done this day, hes called my case on trfel bad. Which maybe it is, i think that there still might be something there. Voted Palmar unvoted, and then said that I should be the lynch over Yamato. Not sure that there is much reevaluation. Also it is also of note that he didn't get really active for his burst until I pinged him out. Which is interesting.
I don't think I was omgusing. I didn't omgus Yamato for scumreading me, nor did I do it to anyone who has. My reasons were based on that you were giving incredibly shallow reads which isn't something you normally do at all.
As for the timing, as I've said, I want to spend less time on the game and so I do. I showed up after I came back from the cinema and had dinner.
On April 26 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 07:04 rsoultin wrote:On April 26 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:On April 26 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:On April 26 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote:
Talk to me about Artanis Rsoultin. artie is hard for me to read :/ like...i liked his post about you xP i wouldn't lynch you over yamato but i see a lot of the things he brought up as well. it's sorta a soft defense of yamato? but if yamato is scum i almost feel like it's in artanis' favor to jump on that rather than try to direct the lynch elsewhere i also like how he revisited his truffle read >< and yes i'm aware that this is just me agreeing with what he's saying my problem is i know he has a good scumgame; i've seen him just give up as scum but he came back into today willing to discuss things and reads and i can see his thought progression i kinda feel like it's to scum's advantage to let the thread continue to stagnate, which wasn't the sense i got from him today (or you, for that matter) which is one of the reasons why i'm feeling a bit better about the both of you and a bit worse about truffle A few things really, I felt like today particularly there was a bit more omgus in Artanis for instance in how he dealt with me. Are my reads at that point in the thread substantial? Not really no, are they up to my standards? No not really. But he would rather think i should be the lynch than Yamato? That doesn't necessarily make sense to me in that regard. For instance look at what hes done this day, hes called my case on trfel bad. Which maybe it is, i think that there still might be something there. Voted Palmar unvoted, and then said that I should be the lynch over Yamato. Not sure that there is much reevaluation. Also it is also of note that he didn't get really active for his burst until I pinged him out. Which is interesting. hmm that may be true i'd have to take another look at when he started talking :/ and his general read progression on the both of y'all there was definitely re-evaluation on truffle, though, that much i'm sure of and i kinda get the vote palmar, unvote thing...isn't it a thing to push palmar to see how he responds to get a read? i thought it was. i know that palmar typically encourages it, and palmar did come out looking more townie for it lol >< anyway give me a bit to look into that Well one thing to understand about Palmar is in this type of situation what does one vote do? Its no where close to picking up steam he is in peoples POE list but does that guarantee hes going to get up and going just because he has 1/5 votes needed its not pressurish at all imo. It could of turned into that if other people hopped on the wagon, but i'm not so sure about it especially. But Art did push off a Yamato lynch I believe when he first started talking about me after my trfel post earlier in this cycle. And then he said i should be the lynch over Yamato because my reads aren't intricate and mostly fluff. But then he neither pushes Palmar for l ynch really or pushes me to an extent, if you think that Yamato shouldnt' be the lynch and either one of Palmar/Damdred should why would you sit back and really do nothing to influence what people think?
I was putting pressure onto Palmar to get a clearer read on him. I wasn't the only one that was suspicious of him and it had a good chance of picking up some speed, so it definitely did put some pressure onto him. Whether that was the reason he started posting better, I dunno, but it helped evaluate my read on him.
As for not pushing lynches, I refer back to not wanting to spend 10 hours a day cheerleading people onto my lynch of choice. I gave my reasons why I think you're scum, I expect people to read them and either sheep them if they like it or vote someone else/engage me if they're not convinced. How have I not tried to influence people into thinking you're scum?
On April 26 2015 07:15 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 07:10 rsoultin wrote:On April 26 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:On April 26 2015 07:04 rsoultin wrote:On April 26 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:On April 26 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:On April 26 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote:
Talk to me about Artanis Rsoultin. artie is hard for me to read :/ like...i liked his post about you xP i wouldn't lynch you over yamato but i see a lot of the things he brought up as well. it's sorta a soft defense of yamato? but if yamato is scum i almost feel like it's in artanis' favor to jump on that rather than try to direct the lynch elsewhere i also like how he revisited his truffle read >< and yes i'm aware that this is just me agreeing with what he's saying my problem is i know he has a good scumgame; i've seen him just give up as scum but he came back into today willing to discuss things and reads and i can see his thought progression i kinda feel like it's to scum's advantage to let the thread continue to stagnate, which wasn't the sense i got from him today (or you, for that matter) which is one of the reasons why i'm feeling a bit better about the both of you and a bit worse about truffle A few things really, I felt like today particularly there was a bit more omgus in Artanis for instance in how he dealt with me. Are my reads at that point in the thread substantial? Not really no, are they up to my standards? No not really. But he would rather think i should be the lynch than Yamato? That doesn't necessarily make sense to me in that regard. For instance look at what hes done this day, hes called my case on trfel bad. Which maybe it is, i think that there still might be something there. Voted Palmar unvoted, and then said that I should be the lynch over Yamato. Not sure that there is much reevaluation. Also it is also of note that he didn't get really active for his burst until I pinged him out. Which is interesting. hmm that may be true i'd have to take another look at when he started talking :/ and his general read progression on the both of y'all there was definitely re-evaluation on truffle, though, that much i'm sure of and i kinda get the vote palmar, unvote thing...isn't it a thing to push palmar to see how he responds to get a read? i thought it was. i know that palmar typically encourages it, and palmar did come out looking more townie for it lol >< anyway give me a bit to look into that Well one thing to understand about Palmar is in this type of situation what does one vote do? Its no where close to picking up steam he is in peoples POE list but does that guarantee hes going to get up and going just because he has 1/5 votes needed its not pressurish at all imo. It could of turned into that if other people hopped on the wagon, but i'm not so sure about it especially. But Art did push off a Yamato lynch I believe when he first started talking about me after my trfel post earlier in this cycle. And then he said i should be the lynch over Yamato because my reads aren't intricate and mostly fluff. But then he neither pushes Palmar for l ynch really or pushes me to an extent, if you think that Yamato shouldnt' be the lynch and either one of Palmar/Damdred should why would you sit back and really do nothing to influence what people think? that's a fair point. i thought he was scumreading yamato though? Show nested quote +On April 24 2015 22:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I definitely don't want to lynch Yamato today or probably any day. His mafia game is much worse than what he's shown so far and he cares too much. Just an exert then we have this Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 03:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Meta is great though. Especially when you apply it incorrectly and presume that since Marv once told you that Yamato is absolutely terrible at scum, you figure he can't have 4 pages so far and have pushed some things.
Actually a problem I see in his filter is that he's droning on about the same things over and over again. First WoS, then the thing with me on waiting for Palmar/BH to contribute, and then on BH. He doesn't really re-evaluate anything nor does he share many thoughts on other things than whatever he's chasing at the time.
Could prob lynch/10. Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 03:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 26 2015 03:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 26 2015 03:20 rsoultin wrote:On April 21 2015 12:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
They were real reads before I realized the premise was wrong. And why the fuck do I have to call you town?
Why are you fishing for townreads from me yamato? You're behaving so oddly, and it's not even your normal hyper-aggressive early game push that Im used to.
I just wanted to wreck scum with you for once. Just once. Apparently it was too much to ask. from the one who doesn't like to use meta xP It's an observation, and I'm not calling him scum based on that. He's absolutely behaving oddly, even ignoring what I already know of him. On April 26 2015 03:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 26 2015 03:17 WaveofShadow wrote:Especially when you apply it incorrectly and presume that since Marv once told you that Yamato is absolutely terrible at scum, you figure he can't have 4 pages so far and have pushed some things.
Where did I do this? And no in my experience meta is shit terrible, and I am certainly not marv, one of very few people who can maybe attempt to use it correctly. essentially the call is are we feeling lynchy or do we wait for yamato And frankly by the time 48h rolls around im always feeling lynchy I want to see a flip so I'll sheep rsoul ##unvote
##vote: yamato77 Sorry, I didn't mean that you did this, I meant that I did that. So that means you found him town earlier based on him pushing some stuff 'cause meta and now you're rethinking it? Basically, yes. I think I might want to lynch Damdred over him though. His list post is followed by a bunch of fluff that doesn't really say anything and doesn't have any of the intricate reads Damdred usually has. It's so unrefined and fluffy, and his apologetic tone on "I know it's pretty global" only compounds it. Finally this, i went through Arts filter and there is no Yamato scum read in it. Just things like, I could make better posts but that doesn't make Yamato scum etc.,
I've said I could lynch him. I'm not sure how much clearer you need it.
This push on me might actually make you more likely to be town though. Hm.
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I have read his filter twice, his explanation of why we should vote pressure people I like that and his exchange over that.
His reaction to who people target is really good I thought at points, his play today has been abysmal though is the only thing that is bad. But I also remember in mini mafia 2 his activity day 2 which was on a weekend/Friday just totally flatlined.
really like this post to, it shows a form of thought and insight I wouldn't expect from scum yamato even if its a bit basic
On April 23 2015 07:28 yamato77 wrote:
I don't like Artanis' post where he comments on the case offhandedly and then votes trfel
but I also don't like trfel calling me mafia for shit reasons and then sheeping the BH lynch
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i think i may drop artie down to null, maybe even null-leaning scum, though
i like some of the other points you've brought up, damdy ^^
if we're not lynching today i think i'm gonna work on the research project i have due this semester lol >< thanks for trying to work this out with me today ^^
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