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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 25 2015 19:58 GMT
#781
Remind me later rsoul to respond the you stuff in detakl
Re breshke I honestly haven't given him any thought since D1 cuz obvtown to me then
Maybe should reevaluate
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 25 2015 19:59 GMT
#782
also sorry but just re-asking you your questions is an insanely easy way to generate content xP just like mediating fights and throwing townreads around

lol i should know ^^ i consistently have one of the longest if not the longest filter in all my scum games. there are ways to generate content that look productive but actually aren't, and rereading breshke's filter gives me that "generating empty content 101" sorta vibe
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 25 2015 20:02 GMT
#783
On April 26 2015 04:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Remind me later rsoul to respond the you stuff in detakl
Re breshke I honestly haven't given him any thought since D1 cuz obvtown to me then
Maybe should reevaluate


<3 would appreciate your thoughts later, thanks
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 25 2015 20:07 GMT
#784
I'm really not sure Rsoultin.

Page two of Breshkes filter just looks really good, for example why would you get someone who is disinterested in the game involved in the game and give them content when they are a good chance for a mislynch at that point.

I just have a hard time seeing some of these thoughts froms cum breshke
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 25 2015 20:14 GMT
#785
On April 26 2015 05:07 Damdred wrote:
I'm really not sure Rsoultin.

Page two of Breshkes filter just looks really good, for example why would you get someone who is disinterested in the game involved in the game and give them content when they are a good chance for a mislynch at that point.

I just have a hard time seeing some of these thoughts froms cum breshke


basically your read on breshke is that he drew you back into the game. i get it, but considering there was already an easy mislynch in bh available i don't really think it carries as much weight as you place on it...especially since he's now dropped you and artanis to his second scumread slot which mirrors my d1 reads a bit too much imo, especially when he had artanis as town for so long for weak (imo) reasons

i'll have to relook at his scum games but the irritating part of his play when we were scum together was his inability to find scum or even treat anyone as if they were suspicious...his last town game he found reasons to find people suspicious lol when he didn't really do here...i dunnae i may be reading too much into it, but seriously, giving good townreads is not a reason to townread someone...that is exceptionally easy for scum

the fact that he has few scumreads or even suspicions and basically sheeps other players for what little he does have does not make me feel comfortable, and that's where the real town breshke should come out clearly

"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 25 2015 20:24 GMT
#786
I'll be honest i'm probably not going to look in depth at his other scum games at this point, i really don't think i want to lynch him today unless you wow me here Rsoultin.

I'm not so sure that the easy mislynch in BH was available at that point though. I was the first person who really pointed out BH and pushed it somewhat. And then it sort of took off the next day when BH started caseing me.

Talk to me about someone else.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 25 2015 20:34 GMT
#787
On April 26 2015 05:24 Damdred wrote:
I'll be honest i'm probably not going to look in depth at his other scum games at this point, i really don't think i want to lynch him today unless you wow me here Rsoultin.

I'm not so sure that the easy mislynch in BH was available at that point though. I was the first person who really pointed out BH and pushed it somewhat. And then it sort of took off the next day when BH started caseing me.

Talk to me about someone else.


-shrugs- i think you underestimate how easy it is to coast as scum on day 1 perhaps because you've been so bussy lately, but that's neither here nor there

i'm not interested in talking about townreads?

though i guess truffle is worth discussing...like, i'm actually still super fine with him this game >< i just finished his filter, and this backtracking y'all mentioned seems confined to the metaread portion and general insecurity?

he's lost a lot of games recently (based on his own decisions) and if he's not confident in meta why would he pretend to be otherwise? not to mention just getting vig shot lol >< for anyone with an ego, that smarts (i was upset when i thought it was possible i was vig shot in xxx)

my main concern is i haven't seen him lately, frankly
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 25 2015 20:44 GMT
#788
On April 26 2015 05:34 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 05:24 Damdred wrote:
I'll be honest i'm probably not going to look in depth at his other scum games at this point, i really don't think i want to lynch him today unless you wow me here Rsoultin.

I'm not so sure that the easy mislynch in BH was available at that point though. I was the first person who really pointed out BH and pushed it somewhat. And then it sort of took off the next day when BH started caseing me.

Talk to me about someone else.


-shrugs- i think you underestimate how easy it is to coast as scum on day 1 perhaps because you've been so bussy lately, but that's neither here nor there

i'm not interested in talking about townreads?

though i guess truffle is worth discussing...like, i'm actually still super fine with him this game >< i just finished his filter, and this backtracking y'all mentioned seems confined to the metaread portion and general insecurity?

he's lost a lot of games recently (based on his own decisions) and if he's not confident in meta why would he pretend to be otherwise? not to mention just getting vig shot lol >< for anyone with an ego, that smarts (i was upset when i thought it was possible i was vig shot in xxx)

my main concern is i haven't seen him lately, frankly


I'm generally not really bussy on d1, like in aperture i don't think ir eally did anything d1 so i know about sliding by d1. Besides that when i'm generally involved i try not to let anyone coast by I believe. Which btw i don't think what breshke did d1 is necessarily sliding by.

I'm fine with not talking about townreads unless you think i'm drastically off on someone in the circle i had constructed.

Besides that, even if you take away the lost games trfel never lost the sense of being right. Even in the game that i can't mention Trfel was sure of himself up to that point.

rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 25 2015 20:50 GMT
#789
yo, wave, that bragging bit you were saying was unlikely to come from a scum yama? xP

he only started talking about it after i followed up on truffle's point that yamato's view of bh was contradictory (lazy as fuck -> he'll put forth the effort if given the chance), so...don't think that argument in favor of yamato's play holds water

i don't think his push on you early on was terrible? the one against artanis was pretty blah though -_- and having no alternative after pushing hard at you and artanis and even saying he didn't like damdy, then disappearing for 40 minutes before the lynch after saying we should give bh more time, just looks bad, frankly

On April 24 2015 10:29 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 10:24 rsoultin wrote:
strategy talk aside i'm actually fine with how you handled the bh lynch, though...looks pretty natural at a second look

mmmmrrrrt i was supposed to be doing schoolwork >< you distractions xP

while you're doing that, I'll be formulating updated reads


also this was almost 48 hours ago lol >< and no, no new reads
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 25 2015 20:52 GMT
#790
On April 26 2015 05:44 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 05:34 rsoultin wrote:
On April 26 2015 05:24 Damdred wrote:
I'll be honest i'm probably not going to look in depth at his other scum games at this point, i really don't think i want to lynch him today unless you wow me here Rsoultin.

I'm not so sure that the easy mislynch in BH was available at that point though. I was the first person who really pointed out BH and pushed it somewhat. And then it sort of took off the next day when BH started caseing me.

Talk to me about someone else.


-shrugs- i think you underestimate how easy it is to coast as scum on day 1 perhaps because you've been so bussy lately, but that's neither here nor there

i'm not interested in talking about townreads?

though i guess truffle is worth discussing...like, i'm actually still super fine with him this game >< i just finished his filter, and this backtracking y'all mentioned seems confined to the metaread portion and general insecurity?

he's lost a lot of games recently (based on his own decisions) and if he's not confident in meta why would he pretend to be otherwise? not to mention just getting vig shot lol >< for anyone with an ego, that smarts (i was upset when i thought it was possible i was vig shot in xxx)

my main concern is i haven't seen him lately, frankly


I'm generally not really bussy on d1, like in aperture i don't think ir eally did anything d1 so i know about sliding by d1. Besides that when i'm generally involved i try not to let anyone coast by I believe. Which btw i don't think what breshke did d1 is necessarily sliding by.

I'm fine with not talking about townreads unless you think i'm drastically off on someone in the circle i had constructed.

Besides that, even if you take away the lost games trfel never lost the sense of being right. Even in the game that i can't mention Trfel was sure of himself up to that point.



lol you and i have a very different interpretation of truffle!

he usually writes his doubts right into his reads like an argument with himself before settling on a final alignment. i don't really call that "sure" of himself

a sign that he's actually considering both sides is usually what alerts me to his being town
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 25 2015 20:59 GMT
#791
On April 26 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 05:44 Damdred wrote:
On April 26 2015 05:34 rsoultin wrote:
On April 26 2015 05:24 Damdred wrote:
I'll be honest i'm probably not going to look in depth at his other scum games at this point, i really don't think i want to lynch him today unless you wow me here Rsoultin.

I'm not so sure that the easy mislynch in BH was available at that point though. I was the first person who really pointed out BH and pushed it somewhat. And then it sort of took off the next day when BH started caseing me.

Talk to me about someone else.


-shrugs- i think you underestimate how easy it is to coast as scum on day 1 perhaps because you've been so bussy lately, but that's neither here nor there

i'm not interested in talking about townreads?

though i guess truffle is worth discussing...like, i'm actually still super fine with him this game >< i just finished his filter, and this backtracking y'all mentioned seems confined to the metaread portion and general insecurity?

he's lost a lot of games recently (based on his own decisions) and if he's not confident in meta why would he pretend to be otherwise? not to mention just getting vig shot lol >< for anyone with an ego, that smarts (i was upset when i thought it was possible i was vig shot in xxx)

my main concern is i haven't seen him lately, frankly


I'm generally not really bussy on d1, like in aperture i don't think ir eally did anything d1 so i know about sliding by d1. Besides that when i'm generally involved i try not to let anyone coast by I believe. Which btw i don't think what breshke did d1 is necessarily sliding by.

I'm fine with not talking about townreads unless you think i'm drastically off on someone in the circle i had constructed.

Besides that, even if you take away the lost games trfel never lost the sense of being right. Even in the game that i can't mention Trfel was sure of himself up to that point.



lol you and i have a very different interpretation of truffle!

he usually writes his doubts right into his reads like an argument with himself before settling on a final alignment. i don't really call that "sure" of himself

a sign that he's actually considering both sides is usually what alerts me to his being town


The post i specifically talked about I am not so sure that he is considering both sides. Hes going really really hard on the fact that yamato is scum.

Then he brings doubt in a really fabricated way, he doesn't necessarily show why hes doubting just puts it there.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 25 2015 21:04 GMT
#792
On April 24 2015 10:53 Trfel wrote:
Now that I think about it some more, were he mafia, he probably would have suggested Artanis or I as an actual alternative to the Blazinghand lynch, or just stayed quiet. Protesting the Blazinghand lynch and not suggesting an alternative isn't what I would do as mafia.

I just don't know about him, every time I convince myself that he is scum, something else comes up that suggests that I'm wrong. I'm almost thinking that he is guaranteed town because I'm scumreading him, but ugh...


this post?

lol it's bad reasoning for sure
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 25 2015 21:07 GMT
#793
Maybe I have a warped view of trfel, but the ability to press his reads and to drive them take precedence over almost anything else in the thread when he is actually involved in the thread.

Guardians, the student mafia games. And his scum games always lacks that, even if hes wrong he always pushes.

Here...hes always second guessing himself on everything he puts out it feels like.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 25 2015 21:08 GMT
#794
Final reads list:

Wave <3

Prob Town - mostly tonereads but i'm fairly confident on them
Palmar
Truffle

Maybe Town? - liked the later posting, and reconsidering reads...probably not outside his scum range though
Artanis

Nullish possibly maybe a little bit leaning slight town - warming up to him but eh...generally just feel he's burnt out, and that's not alignment indicative
Damdy

Scummy
Breshke

Lynch it
Yamato

can ask about my reads if you like ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 25 2015 21:10 GMT
#795
Wha is the vote count currently
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 25 2015 21:12 GMT
#796
On April 26 2015 06:07 Damdred wrote:
Maybe I have a warped view of trfel, but the ability to press his reads and to drive them take precedence over almost anything else in the thread when he is actually involved in the thread.

Guardians, the student mafia games. And his scum games always lacks that, even if hes wrong he always pushes.

Here...hes always second guessing himself on everything he puts out it feels like.


honestly lol i just don't agree

we've played almost every game together damdred, truffle and i, and i DO NOT AGREE with your metaread. i don't think there's much else to say there honestly? somehow we've played with the same person and come to completely different conclusions

he described his game to me once as whoever he's scumreading he tries to find reasons to townread and whoever he's townreading he tries to find reasons to scumread...and i know that lately he's presented those reads with more confidence than he probably actually has, but lol >< i also think y'all don't read his posts completely through cause they're monstrosities >< doubt is a town truffle hallmark...and frankly, artanis sees it the same way, if you read his post from earlier
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-25 21:13:30
April 25 2015 21:13 GMT
#797
Votecount:


Trfel(1)-Damdred
Damdred(0)-
Palmar(0)-
Yamato77(4)-Palmar, Breshke, rsoultin, WaveofShadow

until the possible day end

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 25 2015 21:19 GMT
#798
Honestly your my town jesus this game Rsoultin. I think we need a lynch today

##Unvote
##Vote Yamato77


Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 25 2015 21:23 GMT
#799
I think that you are really wrong on breshke though.

If you think Yamato is scum, do you really see scum breshke going for the bus in this situation?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 25 2015 21:32 GMT
#800
On April 26 2015 06:23 Damdred wrote:
I think that you are really wrong on breshke though.

If you think Yamato is scum, do you really see scum breshke going for the bus in this situation?


okay i'm gonna be honest here i've got a couple wild theories that really cannot be voiced ><

however

i do think it's actually quite likely with yamato getting this much heat and apparently deciding to roll over and die that if he is scum - and i believe he is - his scummate would buss him

lol >< in breshke's case, i know this sounds a little crazy paranoid, but i do not like how much he interacted with wave, yamato and myself without coming to a conclusion on yamato's alignment, barely mentioning him, and then arbitrarily linking him to me. especially if yamato is scum

i don't like the sudden (mostly unexplained) reversal in read on me

i don't like him suddenly wanting to lynch yamato for other people's reasons

i don't like his general lack of scumreads or suspicions

i could be completely wrong and i'm 100% aware of that lol >< i'm wrong a lot. however, the answer is yes, i could definitely see scum!breshke who is generally townread bussing scum!yamato who is generally scumread and rolling over

there's also this to consider...we're currently at 6v2...presuming yamato is scum at best we start day 3 at

5v1 or 4v1 depending on whether or not a shot was withheld...which allows us one more mislynch xP breshke is sitting cozy enough to pull off two mislynches, i think, if he's scum here

i mean there's who else?
you
art
truffle
maaaaybe palmar

yeah i think it's quite possible
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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