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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 25 2015 21:39 GMT
#801
That's actually not a bad thought, i used the same strategy roughly in showdown I think ti was.

Gotta think about that a bit more, and no that's not crazy paranoid.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 25 2015 21:43 GMT
#802
Talk to me about Artanis Rsoultin.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 25 2015 21:45 GMT
#803
We went through this last game

I work weekends

Not rolling over and dying, just not having time to play a whole bunch
Writer@WriterYamato
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 25 2015 21:50 GMT
#804
On April 26 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote:
Talk to me about Artanis Rsoultin.


artie is hard for me to read :/

like...i liked his post about you xP i wouldn't lynch you over yamato but i see a lot of the things he brought up as well. it's sorta a soft defense of yamato? but if yamato is scum i almost feel like it's in artanis' favor to jump on that rather than try to direct the lynch elsewhere

i also like how he revisited his truffle read >< and yes i'm aware that this is just me agreeing with what he's saying

my problem is i know he has a good scumgame; i've seen him just give up as scum but he came back into today willing to discuss things and reads and i can see his thought progression

i kinda feel like it's to scum's advantage to let the thread continue to stagnate, which wasn't the sense i got from him today (or you, for that matter) which is one of the reasons why i'm feeling a bit better about the both of you and a bit worse about truffle
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 25 2015 21:51 GMT
#805
On April 26 2015 06:45 yamato77 wrote:
We went through this last game

I work weekends

Not rolling over and dying, just not having time to play a whole bunch


this is true from right after deadline thursday night?

what are your reads...they don't have to be fleshed, just what are they right this second based on what you remember?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 25 2015 21:57 GMT
#806
I dont have much time ill have to leave soon and be gone for like an hour after deadline but rso your points seems to explain eachother.

I dont have any scunreads just a bunch of townreads then palamar drops a good casr on yama who is.not ome of my townreads so i dont see whats wrong with sheeping this. (what reasons do you even scumread yama for like couldnt you say your reasons are other peoples reasons aswell)

then to find the last scum I PoE and damdred and srt hadnt impressed me today when normally i feel like they are high impact players.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 25 2015 21:59 GMT
#807
On April 26 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote:
Talk to me about Artanis Rsoultin.


artie is hard for me to read :/

like...i liked his post about you xP i wouldn't lynch you over yamato but i see a lot of the things he brought up as well. it's sorta a soft defense of yamato? but if yamato is scum i almost feel like it's in artanis' favor to jump on that rather than try to direct the lynch elsewhere

i also like how he revisited his truffle read >< and yes i'm aware that this is just me agreeing with what he's saying

my problem is i know he has a good scumgame; i've seen him just give up as scum but he came back into today willing to discuss things and reads and i can see his thought progression

i kinda feel like it's to scum's advantage to let the thread continue to stagnate, which wasn't the sense i got from him today (or you, for that matter) which is one of the reasons why i'm feeling a bit better about the both of you and a bit worse about truffle


A few things really,

I felt like today particularly there was a bit more omgus in Artanis for instance in how he dealt with me. Are my reads at that point in the thread substantial? Not really no, are they up to my standards? No not really. But he would rather think i should be the lynch than Yamato?

That doesn't necessarily make sense to me in that regard. For instance look at what hes done this day, hes called my case on trfel bad. Which maybe it is, i think that there still might be something there. Voted Palmar unvoted, and then said that I should be the lynch over Yamato.

Not sure that there is much reevaluation. Also it is also of note that he didn't get really active for his burst until I pinged him out. Which is interesting.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 25 2015 22:00 GMT
#808
On April 26 2015 06:57 Breshke wrote:
I dont have much time ill have to leave soon and be gone for like an hour after deadline but rso your points seems to explain eachother.

I dont have any scunreads just a bunch of townreads then palamar drops a good casr on yama who is.not ome of my townreads so i dont see whats wrong with sheeping this. (what reasons do you even scumread yama for like couldnt you say your reasons are other peoples reasons aswell)

then to find the last scum I PoE and damdred and srt hadnt impressed me today when normally i feel like they are high impact players.



lol

yes i'm aware all you have is a bunch of townreads ^^

and yes i've actually brought up different points than some of the other players

what changed your opinion on me? which specific posts?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 25 2015 22:03 GMT
#809
On April 26 2015 07:00 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 06:57 Breshke wrote:
I dont have much time ill have to leave soon and be gone for like an hour after deadline but rso your points seems to explain eachother.

I dont have any scunreads just a bunch of townreads then palamar drops a good casr on yama who is.not ome of my townreads so i dont see whats wrong with sheeping this. (what reasons do you even scumread yama for like couldnt you say your reasons are other peoples reasons aswell)

then to find the last scum I PoE and damdred and srt hadnt impressed me today when normally i feel like they are high impact players.



lol

yes i'm aware all you have is a bunch of townreads ^^

and yes i've actually brought up different points than some of the other players

what changed your opinion on me? which specific posts?


You disliking the bh case for same reasons as me also there was posts after i went to sleep the phase we lynched BH (so like 6 or so hours leading up to the lynch) that i liked but i csnt go get them cos im on phone.

What's these different points i see a post saying you vote him for fun then one with some reasoning is there any others.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 25 2015 22:04 GMT
#810
On April 26 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
On April 26 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote:
Talk to me about Artanis Rsoultin.


artie is hard for me to read :/

like...i liked his post about you xP i wouldn't lynch you over yamato but i see a lot of the things he brought up as well. it's sorta a soft defense of yamato? but if yamato is scum i almost feel like it's in artanis' favor to jump on that rather than try to direct the lynch elsewhere

i also like how he revisited his truffle read >< and yes i'm aware that this is just me agreeing with what he's saying

my problem is i know he has a good scumgame; i've seen him just give up as scum but he came back into today willing to discuss things and reads and i can see his thought progression

i kinda feel like it's to scum's advantage to let the thread continue to stagnate, which wasn't the sense i got from him today (or you, for that matter) which is one of the reasons why i'm feeling a bit better about the both of you and a bit worse about truffle


A few things really,

I felt like today particularly there was a bit more omgus in Artanis for instance in how he dealt with me. Are my reads at that point in the thread substantial? Not really no, are they up to my standards? No not really. But he would rather think i should be the lynch than Yamato?

That doesn't necessarily make sense to me in that regard. For instance look at what hes done this day, hes called my case on trfel bad. Which maybe it is, i think that there still might be something there. Voted Palmar unvoted, and then said that I should be the lynch over Yamato.

Not sure that there is much reevaluation. Also it is also of note that he didn't get really active for his burst until I pinged him out. Which is interesting.


hmm that may be true i'd have to take another look at when he started talking :/ and his general read progression on the both of y'all

there was definitely re-evaluation on truffle, though, that much i'm sure of

and i kinda get the vote palmar, unvote thing...isn't it a thing to push palmar to see how he responds to get a read? i thought it was. i know that palmar typically encourages it, and palmar did come out looking more townie for it lol >< anyway

give me a bit to look into that
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 25 2015 22:07 GMT
#811
On April 26 2015 07:04 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
On April 26 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
On April 26 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote:
Talk to me about Artanis Rsoultin.


artie is hard for me to read :/

like...i liked his post about you xP i wouldn't lynch you over yamato but i see a lot of the things he brought up as well. it's sorta a soft defense of yamato? but if yamato is scum i almost feel like it's in artanis' favor to jump on that rather than try to direct the lynch elsewhere

i also like how he revisited his truffle read >< and yes i'm aware that this is just me agreeing with what he's saying

my problem is i know he has a good scumgame; i've seen him just give up as scum but he came back into today willing to discuss things and reads and i can see his thought progression

i kinda feel like it's to scum's advantage to let the thread continue to stagnate, which wasn't the sense i got from him today (or you, for that matter) which is one of the reasons why i'm feeling a bit better about the both of you and a bit worse about truffle


A few things really,

I felt like today particularly there was a bit more omgus in Artanis for instance in how he dealt with me. Are my reads at that point in the thread substantial? Not really no, are they up to my standards? No not really. But he would rather think i should be the lynch than Yamato?

That doesn't necessarily make sense to me in that regard. For instance look at what hes done this day, hes called my case on trfel bad. Which maybe it is, i think that there still might be something there. Voted Palmar unvoted, and then said that I should be the lynch over Yamato.

Not sure that there is much reevaluation. Also it is also of note that he didn't get really active for his burst until I pinged him out. Which is interesting.


hmm that may be true i'd have to take another look at when he started talking :/ and his general read progression on the both of y'all

there was definitely re-evaluation on truffle, though, that much i'm sure of

and i kinda get the vote palmar, unvote thing...isn't it a thing to push palmar to see how he responds to get a read? i thought it was. i know that palmar typically encourages it, and palmar did come out looking more townie for it lol >< anyway

give me a bit to look into that


Well one thing to understand about Palmar is in this type of situation what does one vote do? Its no where close to picking up steam he is in peoples POE list but does that guarantee hes going to get up and going just because he has 1/5 votes needed its not pressurish at all imo. It could of turned into that if other people hopped on the wagon, but i'm not so sure about it especially.

But Art did push off a Yamato lynch I believe when he first started talking about me after my trfel post earlier in this cycle. And then he said i should be the lynch over Yamato because my reads aren't intricate and mostly fluff.

But then he neither pushes Palmar for l ynch really or pushes me to an extent, if you think that Yamato shouldnt' be the lynch and either one of Palmar/Damdred should why would you sit back and really do nothing to influence what people think?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 25 2015 22:08 GMT
#812
On April 26 2015 07:03 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 07:00 rsoultin wrote:
On April 26 2015 06:57 Breshke wrote:
I dont have much time ill have to leave soon and be gone for like an hour after deadline but rso your points seems to explain eachother.

I dont have any scunreads just a bunch of townreads then palamar drops a good casr on yama who is.not ome of my townreads so i dont see whats wrong with sheeping this. (what reasons do you even scumread yama for like couldnt you say your reasons are other peoples reasons aswell)

then to find the last scum I PoE and damdred and srt hadnt impressed me today when normally i feel like they are high impact players.



lol

yes i'm aware all you have is a bunch of townreads ^^

and yes i've actually brought up different points than some of the other players

what changed your opinion on me? which specific posts?


You disliking the bh case for same reasons as me also there was posts after i went to sleep the phase we lynched BH (so like 6 or so hours leading up to the lynch) that i liked but i csnt go get them cos im on phone.

What's these different points i see a post saying you vote him for fun then one with some reasoning is there any others.


lol not going there unless you think yamato is town, bresh xP

that post with reasoning is sufficient if you want different points anyway, and i've more than demonstrated original thoughts throughout the game

my concern is your singular sheeped not-actual scumread ^^ not how much of my read on yamato is original

well even if i die in the night phase assuming we lynch today you should probably show where that change of heart came from ^^ not that it'll be easy to verify with how little you've posted this day phase
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 25 2015 22:10 GMT
#813
On April 26 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 07:04 rsoultin wrote:
On April 26 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
On April 26 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
On April 26 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote:
Talk to me about Artanis Rsoultin.


artie is hard for me to read :/

like...i liked his post about you xP i wouldn't lynch you over yamato but i see a lot of the things he brought up as well. it's sorta a soft defense of yamato? but if yamato is scum i almost feel like it's in artanis' favor to jump on that rather than try to direct the lynch elsewhere

i also like how he revisited his truffle read >< and yes i'm aware that this is just me agreeing with what he's saying

my problem is i know he has a good scumgame; i've seen him just give up as scum but he came back into today willing to discuss things and reads and i can see his thought progression

i kinda feel like it's to scum's advantage to let the thread continue to stagnate, which wasn't the sense i got from him today (or you, for that matter) which is one of the reasons why i'm feeling a bit better about the both of you and a bit worse about truffle


A few things really,

I felt like today particularly there was a bit more omgus in Artanis for instance in how he dealt with me. Are my reads at that point in the thread substantial? Not really no, are they up to my standards? No not really. But he would rather think i should be the lynch than Yamato?

That doesn't necessarily make sense to me in that regard. For instance look at what hes done this day, hes called my case on trfel bad. Which maybe it is, i think that there still might be something there. Voted Palmar unvoted, and then said that I should be the lynch over Yamato.

Not sure that there is much reevaluation. Also it is also of note that he didn't get really active for his burst until I pinged him out. Which is interesting.


hmm that may be true i'd have to take another look at when he started talking :/ and his general read progression on the both of y'all

there was definitely re-evaluation on truffle, though, that much i'm sure of

and i kinda get the vote palmar, unvote thing...isn't it a thing to push palmar to see how he responds to get a read? i thought it was. i know that palmar typically encourages it, and palmar did come out looking more townie for it lol >< anyway

give me a bit to look into that


Well one thing to understand about Palmar is in this type of situation what does one vote do? Its no where close to picking up steam he is in peoples POE list but does that guarantee hes going to get up and going just because he has 1/5 votes needed its not pressurish at all imo. It could of turned into that if other people hopped on the wagon, but i'm not so sure about it especially.

But Art did push off a Yamato lynch I believe when he first started talking about me after my trfel post earlier in this cycle. And then he said i should be the lynch over Yamato because my reads aren't intricate and mostly fluff.

But then he neither pushes Palmar for l ynch really or pushes me to an extent, if you think that Yamato shouldnt' be the lynch and either one of Palmar/Damdred should why would you sit back and really do nothing to influence what people think?


that's a fair point. i thought he was scumreading yamato though?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 25 2015 22:13 GMT
#814
On April 26 2015 07:08 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 07:03 Breshke wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:00 rsoultin wrote:
On April 26 2015 06:57 Breshke wrote:
I dont have much time ill have to leave soon and be gone for like an hour after deadline but rso your points seems to explain eachother.

I dont have any scunreads just a bunch of townreads then palamar drops a good casr on yama who is.not ome of my townreads so i dont see whats wrong with sheeping this. (what reasons do you even scumread yama for like couldnt you say your reasons are other peoples reasons aswell)

then to find the last scum I PoE and damdred and srt hadnt impressed me today when normally i feel like they are high impact players.



lol

yes i'm aware all you have is a bunch of townreads ^^

and yes i've actually brought up different points than some of the other players

what changed your opinion on me? which specific posts?


You disliking the bh case for same reasons as me also there was posts after i went to sleep the phase we lynched BH (so like 6 or so hours leading up to the lynch) that i liked but i csnt go get them cos im on phone.

What's these different points i see a post saying you vote him for fun then one with some reasoning is there any others.


lol not going there unless you think yamato is town, bresh xP

that post with reasoning is sufficient if you want different points anyway, and i've more than demonstrated original thoughts throughout the game

my concern is your singular sheeped not-actual scumread ^^ not how much of my read on yamato is original

well even if i die in the night phase assuming we lynch today you should probably show where that change of heart came from ^^ not that it'll be easy to verify with how little you've posted this day phase


no im trying to demonstrate to you that your reasons probably arnt all that different from the OG shit palamar brought up so you scumreading me for sheeping him and not having my own read is misplaced.

Like how hard was it to just sumarize your original reasons in that post instead of waffeling about stuff its really frustrsting. I dont even understand the first sentence whats it even reffering to
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 25 2015 22:14 GMT
#815
Im gonna stop derailing u and damdred cos yourshit seems productive and I cant do shit all on phone. Be round later unlrss we lynch
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 25 2015 22:15 GMT
#816
I condone letting it go.for another 24 hours btw prpbs shouldnt lynch
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 25 2015 22:15 GMT
#817
On April 26 2015 07:10 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:04 rsoultin wrote:
On April 26 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
On April 26 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
On April 26 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote:
Talk to me about Artanis Rsoultin.


artie is hard for me to read :/

like...i liked his post about you xP i wouldn't lynch you over yamato but i see a lot of the things he brought up as well. it's sorta a soft defense of yamato? but if yamato is scum i almost feel like it's in artanis' favor to jump on that rather than try to direct the lynch elsewhere

i also like how he revisited his truffle read >< and yes i'm aware that this is just me agreeing with what he's saying

my problem is i know he has a good scumgame; i've seen him just give up as scum but he came back into today willing to discuss things and reads and i can see his thought progression

i kinda feel like it's to scum's advantage to let the thread continue to stagnate, which wasn't the sense i got from him today (or you, for that matter) which is one of the reasons why i'm feeling a bit better about the both of you and a bit worse about truffle


A few things really,

I felt like today particularly there was a bit more omgus in Artanis for instance in how he dealt with me. Are my reads at that point in the thread substantial? Not really no, are they up to my standards? No not really. But he would rather think i should be the lynch than Yamato?

That doesn't necessarily make sense to me in that regard. For instance look at what hes done this day, hes called my case on trfel bad. Which maybe it is, i think that there still might be something there. Voted Palmar unvoted, and then said that I should be the lynch over Yamato.

Not sure that there is much reevaluation. Also it is also of note that he didn't get really active for his burst until I pinged him out. Which is interesting.


hmm that may be true i'd have to take another look at when he started talking :/ and his general read progression on the both of y'all

there was definitely re-evaluation on truffle, though, that much i'm sure of

and i kinda get the vote palmar, unvote thing...isn't it a thing to push palmar to see how he responds to get a read? i thought it was. i know that palmar typically encourages it, and palmar did come out looking more townie for it lol >< anyway

give me a bit to look into that


Well one thing to understand about Palmar is in this type of situation what does one vote do? Its no where close to picking up steam he is in peoples POE list but does that guarantee hes going to get up and going just because he has 1/5 votes needed its not pressurish at all imo. It could of turned into that if other people hopped on the wagon, but i'm not so sure about it especially.

But Art did push off a Yamato lynch I believe when he first started talking about me after my trfel post earlier in this cycle. And then he said i should be the lynch over Yamato because my reads aren't intricate and mostly fluff.

But then he neither pushes Palmar for l ynch really or pushes me to an extent, if you think that Yamato shouldnt' be the lynch and either one of Palmar/Damdred should why would you sit back and really do nothing to influence what people think?


that's a fair point. i thought he was scumreading yamato though?


On April 24 2015 22:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I definitely don't want to lynch Yamato today or probably any day. His mafia game is much worse than what he's shown so far and he cares too much.


Just an exert

then we have this

On April 26 2015 03:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Meta is great though. Especially when you apply it incorrectly and presume that since Marv once told you that Yamato is absolutely terrible at scum, you figure he can't have 4 pages so far and have pushed some things.

Actually a problem I see in his filter is that he's droning on about the same things over and over again. First WoS, then the thing with me on waiting for Palmar/BH to contribute, and then on BH. He doesn't really re-evaluate anything nor does he share many thoughts on other things than whatever he's chasing at the time.

Could prob lynch/10.


On April 26 2015 03:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 03:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 26 2015 03:20 rsoultin wrote:
On April 21 2015 12:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
They were real reads before I realized the premise was wrong. And why the fuck do I have to call you town?
Why are you fishing for townreads from me yamato? You're behaving so oddly, and it's not even your normal hyper-aggressive early game push that Im used to.

I just wanted to wreck scum with you for once. Just once. Apparently it was too much to ask.


from the one who doesn't like to use meta xP

It's an observation, and I'm not calling him scum based on that. He's absolutely behaving oddly, even ignoring what I already know of him.

On April 26 2015 03:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 26 2015 03:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Especially when you apply it incorrectly and presume that since Marv once told you that Yamato is absolutely terrible at scum, you figure he can't have 4 pages so far and have pushed some things.

Where did I do this? And no in my experience meta is shit terrible, and I am certainly not marv, one of very few people who can maybe attempt to use it correctly.

essentially the call is are we feeling lynchy or do we wait for yamato
And frankly by the time 48h rolls around im always feeling lynchy

I want to see a flip so I'll sheep rsoul
##unvote
##vote: yamato77

Sorry, I didn't mean that you did this, I meant that I did that.


So that means you found him town earlier based on him pushing some stuff 'cause meta and now you're rethinking it?

Basically, yes. I think I might want to lynch Damdred over him though. His list post is followed by a bunch of fluff that doesn't really say anything and doesn't have any of the intricate reads Damdred usually has. It's so unrefined and fluffy, and his apologetic tone on "I know it's pretty global" only compounds it.


Finally this, i went through Arts filter and there is no Yamato scum read in it.

Just things like, I could make better posts but that doesn't make Yamato scum etc.,
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 25 2015 22:16 GMT
#818
##Unvote

This is actually really productive i'm ok keeping it going, unless town jesus rsoultin tells me otherwise
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 25 2015 22:17 GMT
#819
?

OG shit? like why are you sheeping him if you don't think his reasons are any good?

i can scumread you for not having any scumreads ^^ i'm pretty sure, regardless. in fact if i wanted to i could scumread you for having a dick, cause frankly, i don't have to scumread you for good reasons at all. isn't it better that i actually have one, though?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 25 2015 22:18 GMT
#820
##unvote

i think i'm gonna do that as well, damdy

yeah i see what you mean on artanis...he barely mentioned you beforehand, only giving you a light townread. the flip was kinda odd in that context o.0
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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