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lol >< i feel like it's actually harder to tell alignments when ppl are interacting with me and i'm not 100% sure why :/ maybe i'm just bad. that would explain a lot ##vote artanis | ||
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like what did he actually do this phase? | ||
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like...day 1 was okayish and i'll admit most of his posts by themselves don't bug me that much (except we apparently can't communicate with one another anymore >< which was also true in newbie VII where I rolled scum against him) but the overall play just doesn't sit well yesterday he basically just defended himself then poofed again | ||
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i could definitely see an art/breshke scumteam here tbf...though them defending each other doesn't seem like the best move? meh this game is a bit difficult for me in all honesty. i keep changing my mind so frequently, and i'm not really sure about anything | ||
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On April 27 2015 06:03 Damdred wrote: So you'd rather lynch breshke over art today? honestly, yes lol >< | ||
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On April 27 2015 06:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I could respond to all the individual posts but it'd make a mess since a bunch of things are repeated, and I don't think anyone would get much the wiser from it. Why don't you do me a favour and post everything in one post so I don't miss anything and make it easier to follow for others. It should all be in your head anyway, so I can't be asking for much. Meanwhile, I can put my time into investigating my suspects that way. I also don't see why we HAVE to lynch today. We have the time, what's wrong with using it? if it's actually being used i could see the value -_- | ||
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i just don't see me being able to get four other people to agree with me -_- | ||
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really, damdy, there isn't that much more to say? i play this game different from you case-builders. most of my reads are impressions over time and have to do with overall play rather than specific posts, even if i use specific posts to pressure people :/ i just don't feel like breshke is really interested in actually finding scum this game ##unvote ##vote: breshke there is like a huge difference between being basically inactive and being actively useless in my eyes...i've never been good sussing out the scummy inactive from the just plain inactive, but breshke has been in the thread without progressing it forward at all -_- | ||
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what made you revert back to it, art, other than the obvious that he's a viable lynch alternative to yourself today? | ||
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On April 27 2015 06:29 Damdred wrote: Idk why you went off on me rsoultin I didn't even say anything about your reads just that I wish whoever is town would basically step up. And no honestly I have no time to rehash what . Is clear in my filter its not ego at all. Nor am I stopping you from just focusing on Scum reads. ?? ummm when did i go off on you? lol | ||
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On April 27 2015 07:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Basically, Breshke is so completely unconcerned with getting towncred when his mafia game is notoriously weak that I find it incredibly unlikely for him to be scum. unless you can demonstrate that he normally is concerned with this as scum, i don't see why it matters? his town game isn't this weak in my experience with him. i am exceedingly unimpressed with him this game -_- and that is rarely the case when he's town | ||
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On April 27 2015 07:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Goddamnit, let's try this again. I think you removed the comment in between that I made, so I deleted it from the quotes too. I disagree. I think if he does nothing but troll and other people look townie, he'll probably end getting lynched at some point in this lineup. The fact that the cases weren't good when Palmar is good is telling as well as the fact that he hasn't tried reinforcing them. As for his scumread on Wave, it was part tone, part the analysis on the votes made on Wave. lol this is bullshit. i've seen plenty of bad palmar play and i'm a noob -_- don't try blowing smoke up my ass, artie | ||
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On April 27 2015 07:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I mislynched him in LXX and I see so many resemblances to that this game. I've also gone through his scumgames before and they are markedly different, though I'll do it again if you insist. if you can show me any sign of his being invested in this game, i'd appreciate it more ^^ | ||
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lol >< how many times do i have to say that townreading me is like completely not alignment indicative at all? dude, someone else had to point out to him that he was parroting me, and frankly i ooze town as town it's why i get night-killed early so often; it's definitely not because i'm a scary player for most scumteams to have to play against -_- artanis, he randomly townread me. it took like over 24 hours to get an explanation on that shift, because it wasn't explained at the time. no that doesn't show investment in the game. try again | ||
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On April 26 2015 18:33 yamato77 wrote: So why do you think Artanis just drops his strongest read within just a page of the game and votes someone he had previously had a strong meta-townread on? All post-hoc justification aside, it looks like an unnatural switch, even given the case. You can't also look at it so small-mindedly in that your vote was the only one, the case was gaining traction given the multiple people who commented on it in some capacity. My read on you shouldn't really even matter. I think you're a rather forgettable player that many people seem to townread. That's about the extent of it without delving deeper. ^ liked this post On April 26 2015 15:40 yamato77 wrote: eod D1 I felt like it was most important to have a read on BH, as no one else was really being pushed as a lynch target and not much else was being discussed at that time, trfel looked kinda bad to me but wasn't a clearly good lynch. given that you disagreed with my read of him and no one else even was around to comment on it. I liked artanis' line of questioning of trfel also at the time so it was difficult to see him as scum when he had the exact same criticism of trfel's play that I did. Wave I need to read more in depth. I have this bad tendency of just glazing over his posts because they are generally quite wordy and it's difficult to get a handle on his play. I still think his early play was odd but I really need to revisit him. Honestly, the eod D1 thing was also sort of selfish in that I wanted more time to reformulate my reads. I felt a bit lost at that point and saw I was failing to convince people to wait and see with BH so I just sort of stopped playing. It was bad but only you and Artanis were even around and you weren't budging. Meh. I'll read Wave and Artanis' filter and post more concrete thoughts. I really haven't read anything posted this cycle so >_> plus this just reads pretty believable to me? | ||
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seriously though there's just not a good instance that shows breshke is actually trying to solve the game in any meaningful way. i don't really even understand some of the posts y'all point out as "townie" to be honest. like "i wrote it down, not that this means anything" ummmm...like okay? why couldn't scum say that? why would town feel the need to say it was written down? it's just...i don't get it -_- maybe i'm bad and that really IS enough to make up for doing jack-all to actually find scum but, i just don't see it | ||
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On April 27 2015 07:58 WaveofShadow wrote: Ugh, fair point, though the confidence isn't meta on its own. Too fucking hard to completely remove meta from the equation when you've played with everyone 10000 times. Rsoul I totally see what your problem is by the way, and you outlined it perfectly yourself earlier. You're WAY more likely to townread someone when they just talk to you. Anybody can explain away anything with enough time. Like, you ultimately townread me when I explained my early voting to you but it wasn't enough for some people I don't think (whether a good/true explanation or not). Go look through yamato's filter and show me what his goals have been this game. meh i'm not going to? like that's the very thing i was questioning him on...i'm fully aware how bad his EoD1 looks, but i did like some of the pushes and analysis and i'm willing to give him the time to see if the trend continues or not and yes -_- i have a weakness for townreading the people who talk to me, and i know for a fact people are talking to me a certain why because i'm essentially unlynchable at this point -_- i'm not stupid...i really feel like it's probably better if i disengage if we don't lynch today just to see how the rest of you interact, but the last time i tried that: dead thread | ||
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On April 27 2015 08:00 WaveofShadow wrote: But why do you find Breshke scum for this and not Trfel? I would argue there posting has been similar in that regard. lol >< no, it really hasn't truffle actually has had and pushed scumreads...perhaps not with overwhelming confidence, but they're clearly not the same | ||
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you planning on explaining that at all or does the spoiler explain it | ||
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