Newbie Student Mafia VIII - Page 20

On April 20 2015 21:35 Bourneq wrote:
Hello am I alone in this dark world?

Scott since you unvoted TBD do you mind sharing who you would wrather vote as of now?

On April 20 2015 22:54 Bill Murray wrote:
You know, this setup seems absurdly scum favored upon looking at it. We REALLY Don't need a mislynch on me. IF anyone would come around right now, I would greatly enjoy some discussion. As it is, though, I am doing some filter diving.

Speaking of scumteams I thought 1) we had 9 players and there were 2 scum
2) it was Cop/Doc/Goon/Goon
3) I am actually relatively confirmed village idiot at this point

But you all can go ahead and lynch me I'm not even going to doublevote on someone to get the vote off of me





I don't see this guy as being scum. The last part of his post is more of a "theory posed as a question"

There is a guy on this website named Foolishness, who, in the prime of his mafia playing, wasn't the best mafia player. He was great as town, but as mafia, he would emulate his blue play, possibly subconsciously, and coast through D1 to D2 before he would start posting. As VT however the guy would be posting this huge ass posts detailing the possibility of entire scumteams



I still don't think this guy should be lynched, even when he's making fun of me. I feel like he is just a bored VT.

##vote: Scott31337

IIoA, AtA, AtS, voting obvious bored townie

Scott has been giving any bit of off topic information, or even on topic information, without actually doing analysis. I will highlight this now:


Even in his most scumhunting sounding post, he chooses to word it as "is viewed as scummy" as opposed to "is scummy". His previous scumhunting analysis is a whopping "meh"... literally. He literally says that. What can we get out of someone saying "meh" ? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Yes, I have a meh read - not enough to go one way or the other, espically on Day 1 - is that possible? YES!



his one town post, the above, even feels forced. he throws out a couple leans as bones to the town, and then goes on to finish it with the almighty "Everyone is null"

Yeah it's early in the game but this is different. This is him trying to coast through while having activity for the sake of activity without committing to any analysis whatsoever.

Everyone else was null - Damdred and OWS were stirring the thread in the right direction, and I did not have an opionion on anybody else yet. If I added to that now, I'd give a slight town to Trfel - him and Damdred going at it looks innocent, and you look a little scummy. Fair?



More IIoA. Bringing up a topic and not even answering it. He defers.

This is my second game - I wanted someone else to explain a "tone read" better then me looking up mafiawiki or urban dictionary - nobody ever did though.


When directly questioned comes up with a bullshit excuse based upon "he feels obi and damdred are town"

He then goes onto the worst of his IIoA and becomes a human library trying to throw a link out to get suspicion off himself.

He is feigning helpfulness as scum and this post also highlights my next talking point, his AtA.

AtA = appealing to authority. He is sucking up to what he views as the better players haha
he is also trying to butt in anytime the moderator is brought up
So helping newbies out is scummy? I'll have to remember that in the future.


in his most recent post with a forced question about someone he has had no discussion about or analysis of (asked towards cakepie about LightningStrike) this is there because CakePie has actually been shrugging off his scum aura and shining forth in the spotlight more. He has actually become a very helpful member of town. The reason Scott is doing this is scum motivated. He wants a list of reads from Cakepie to see whether or not he should be killing him tonight. If Scott himself is lower on that list, bam, the cake is a lie. There are other explanations here including his not understanding the meta of the thread, coaching, actual analysis etc but I feel like, given his earlier posting, he is using this as AtA and judging where cake stands on the issue for negative reasons.


And here he appeals to statistics. He has the worst reaction of anyone to my trying to get some plan rolling. Town can't afford to have this sort of plan but people who are town are going to largely mull it over. Upon reading this I'm sure you all are thinking to yourself "well he's right" but in mafia it doesnt matter whether or not you are right it matters what you can get your friendly town to do with you. When someone is saying "BM rolls scum 80%" of the time to subconsciously fuck with you guys and get me lynched that's utter bullshit. Someone thats AtS along with AtA and IIoA needs to go

No, I do not think it is a terrible plan, because I think you are scum. I am going to OMGUS you and your terrible case.

Lastly he was voting for TheBloodyDwarf who I completely disagree with him on. In fact I feel like he was trying to go for one of the most obvious vanilla town that is a village idiot and possibly a good mislynch

From what I read on TBD's last game, he was actualy very similar before I voted for him. He started posting afterwards, and has faded - but I don't think he'll be the lynch today - tomorrow we can re-evaluate.

For all of those reasons I'm voting the 3rd filter I looked at, Scott.
##vote scott331331313

On April 21 2015 00:48 Trfel wrote:
Why would you prefer to policy lynch over lynching Bourneq?

On April 21 2015 00:38 LoneMeow wrote:

Vote Count

TheBloodyDwarf (0): scott31337
scott31337 (1): Bill Murray, Bill Murray
Trfel (0): Bill Murray
cakepie (2): ObiWanShinobi, Damdred
Bill Murray (1): Onegu
Bourneq (1): Bill Murray, Trfel
plotspot (1): cakepie
Onegu (0): Bill Murray

Not voting (7): TheBloodyDwarf, scott31337, LightningStrike, LeiNadk, The Shining, Bourneq, plotspot

+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +

Currently, cakepie is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 01:00 GMT (+00:00).

Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.

On April 21 2015 01:46 Bill Murray wrote:
@TRFEL

"But I did notice that he called Foolishness a great player for town, while mentioning that he makes really long posts. And earlier, Bill Murray scumread me because I made a long post, and long posts are bad for town. Hm."

I said foolishness makes really long posts as Vanilla Town, not merely as town.
I said your long post was null, Trfel. Why are you directly misrepresenting me constantly, over and over? It's really annoying.

On April 20 2015 01:28 Bill Murray wrote:
b. his head is up his own ass regarding this which is a reason he is cancerous and toxic to the town (big posts suck)

On April 21 2015 01:43 Trfel wrote:
If we aren't going to lynch Bourneq, I would rather lynch Bill Murray than an inactive.

On April 21 2015 01:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Why are you so opposed to lynching inactives?

On April 21 2015 01:51 Trfel wrote:
You were saying?

LightningStrike, what do you think of my case on Bourneq?

On April 20 2015 23:53 Damdred wrote:
He reloaded the thread and took like 12 hours to actually post anything of any substance and still didn't come to any conclussions and then wasted his vote on a plylnch he never even talked about NOR PUSHED.

What analysis the one where he doesn't actually analysis anything or come to any real conclussions doesn't push any scum read or any town agenda and just plynches?

You are chainsaw defending people now. Back into the scum pile for you

On April 21 2015 00:06 Trfel wrote:
I disagree. I think you can clearly see him trying to solve the game if you read his posts.

I think you can also see Bourneq being non-committal and following thread sentiment (until after I posted my case on him), and being inconsistent with a bad explanation for the one solid read that he made.

On April 21 2015 00:13 Trfel wrote:

This is his one solid conclusion about the game. But Damdred, you are a good player. And you are well aware that "no conclusions about the game" (even if true) doesn't necessarily make someone scum. Look at TheBloodyDwarf, he has no conclusions about the game. Lots of newbies have no conclusion about the game, and cakepie hasn't been here for very long.

Why does it matter if cakepie has no solid conclusions at this time, when he is showing a clear thought process, and he just started actually playing the game?

On April 21 2015 00:16 Trfel wrote:
Damdred, you have not once addressed the reasons why I suspect Bourneq.

I would like you to do so at this time, please.

On April 21 2015 00:18 Trfel wrote:
You are not the lynch for today. And I'm done arguing with you, because it's getting nowhere, as you aren't willing to listen.

I will discuss with other people one they enter the thread. I would still like an answer to my above question. Thank you.

On April 21 2015 00:30 Trfel wrote:
What about the part where I said that his earlier posting actually looked a bit good for him? And I still think that it does, just his contradiction and explanation looks really bad. I did not decide to scumread Bourneq from the start of the game, The Shining already pointed out where I said that my first argument was flawed and that it didn't make Bourneq scum at all.

He only sided with Bill Murray after I accused him of sheeping the thread sentiment, and suggested that he could be scum with Bill Murray.

On April 21 2015 00:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why are you guys so allergic to policy lynches?

Policy lynches are great.

On April 21 2015 02:03 Onegu wrote:
##UNVOTE

Can buy he didn't read setup...

Don't like Scott's OMGUS at this point either...