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On April 21 2015 02:09 Trfel wrote:
Bill Murray is being extremely persistent. While I don't like his case on scott31337, I can see him actually believing it.
I'd really like to lynch Bourneq, but it seems that I'm the only one who would. Back to the drawing board, I suppose.
why dont you like my case on scott?
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On April 21 2015 01:31 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 21:35 Bourneq wrote:
Hello am I alone in this dark world?
Scott since you unvoted TBD do you mind sharing who you would wrather vote as of now? Probably from a pool of -
BM, Cakepie, PlotspotShow nested quote +On April 20 2015 22:54 Bill Murray wrote:You know, this setup seems absurdly scum favored upon looking at it. We REALLY Don't need a mislynch on me. IF anyone would come around right now, I would greatly enjoy some discussion. As it is, though, I am doing some filter diving. Speaking of scumteams I thought 1) we had 9 players and there were 2 scum 2) it was Cop/Doc/Goon/Goon 3) I am actually relatively confirmed village idiot at this point But you all can go ahead and lynch me I'm not even going to doublevote on someone to get the vote off of me On April 20 2015 01:03 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Hey veterans here.
What is your experience about inactive players that come to thread with post stating their reason for inactivity and haven't posted at all.
How many times they have been scums? I mean just inactivity on day1 gives them like "free" day. Less posts, less scumhunting on them.
I don't see this guy as being scum. The last part of his post is more of a "theory posed as a question" There is a guy on this website named Foolishness, who, in the prime of his mafia playing, wasn't the best mafia player. He was great as town, but as mafia, he would emulate his blue play, possibly subconsciously, and coast through D1 to D2 before he would start posting. As VT however the guy would be posting this huge ass posts detailing the possibility of entire scumteams On April 20 2015 07:14 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On April 20 2015 06:48 Trfel wrote:For anyone who doesn't know Bill Murray, he's quite famous. This is a must read. Wow, I have been banned several times on this website but damn, now there is name that I should look forward to when playing mafia. Such a legend. + Show Spoiler +/jk
Do I need to even need to stay this? I still don't think this guy should be lynched, even when he's making fun of me. I feel like he is just a bored VT. ##vote: Scott31337IIoA, AtA, AtS, voting obvious bored townie Scott has been giving any bit of off topic information, or even on topic information, without actually doing analysis. I will highlight this now: On April 19 2015 13:00 scott31337 wrote:On April 19 2015 11:18 Trfel wrote:
There is a typo in the link to scott31337's filter in the OP. There is an extra "3" in the link. Thanks - now I'm Scott31333337. *facepalm* Trfel's post looks like something he wrote up the day before and is not alignment indicative. On April 19 2015 11:49 Trfel wrote:Hm, this game feels slow already. I thought my post would get things started, but I guess that wasn't good enough. I find Bourneq to be the most suspicious so far. On April 19 2015 11:00 Bourneq wrote:
Anybody wants to request a tone read from me? Ill give a more educated response than last game.
Actually I am going to sleep, its 4 am. Bourneq asks if anyone wants to ask him for a tone read, because this is something that people asked him to do last game. And he knows that it's a townie thing to do. However, the interesting thing is that he asks if people want him to tone read someone or something. He doesn't seem inclined to do it himself. This suggests that he is more interested in appeasing others and not getting lynched than actually finding scum. Furthermore, he says that he will sleep instead of scumhunting. But why would he leave the first sentence in if he is going to sleep after all? He left it in to gain town credit for being open to doing something towny (making a read). On April 19 2015 11:21 Bourneq wrote:
Well im not tonereading that one. TL;DR Then, someone in his previous game made a post. And Bourneq acknowledges it and says that he wasn't going to read it. Why does Bourneq feel a need to acknowledge my post? He already said that he's tired and he will be going to bed. His post doesn't help town in any way, but it makes him seem more involved in the game (which is false, since he didn't bother to toneread anyone at all). I'll be heading out again for a while. Any thoughts? When I first read this, I thought Bourneq was asking for tone reads on himself, which I did not understand since he only had one post. Reading your point of view, I do not know what tone reads he would give off - and then added the TLDR post - meh. What do you think of the LS/Damdred exchange? I know LS can be intimidated - and avoiding questions intentionally is viewed as scummy. Even in his most scumhunting sounding post, he chooses to word it as "is viewed as scummy" as opposed to "is scummy". His previous scumhunting analysis is a whopping "meh"... literally. He literally says that. What can we get out of someone saying "meh" ? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Yes, I have a meh read - not enough to go one way or the other, espically on Day 1 - is that possible? YES!On April 19 2015 14:27 scott31337 wrote:
I really don't have much at the moment - Damdred slight town - you as well -
I believe Shining is still upset about the case I made about him four months ago in LX.
Everyone else null ATM his one town post, the above, even feels forced. he throws out a couple leans as bones to the town, and then goes on to finish it with the almighty "Everyone is null" Yeah it's early in the game but this is different. This is him trying to coast through while having activity for the sake of activity without committing to any analysis whatsoever. Everyone else was null - Damdred and OWS were stirring the thread in the right direction, and I did not have an opionion on anybody else yet. If I added to that now, I'd give a slight town to Trfel - him and Damdred going at it looks innocent, and you look a little scummy. Fair? On April 19 2015 14:37 scott31337 wrote:On April 19 2015 14:35 LeiNadk wrote:
Could someone explain to me precisely what a tone read is? From context, I'm assuming, it's something Bourne was asked to do last game and got mislynched for.
Sorry about all the questions. Should I direct these questions to coaches rather post them in the game? I'll let one of the others answer the "tone read" question better then I can - but from the rules/first post, Do not talk about coaching in the game. just FYI More IIoA. Bringing up a topic and not even answering it. He defers. This is my second game - I wanted someone else to explain a "tone read" better then me looking up mafiawiki or urban dictionary - nobody ever did though. On April 19 2015 14:44 scott31337 wrote:On April 19 2015 14:38 LeiNadk wrote:On April 19 2015 14:27 scott31337 wrote:
I really don't have much at the moment - Damdred slight town - you as well -
I believe Shining is still upset about the case I made about him four months ago in LX.
Everyone else null ATM Could you elaborate on Damdred and Obi? Why town? Obi and Damdred have been asking questions and offering their ideas and they feel honest to me so far. From your message I assumed you have played IRL mafia before, correct? There is the TL Mafia Database that has information on others mafia games played on this site - if you want to look into peoples previous games. When directly questioned comes up with a bullshit excuse based upon "he feels obi and damdred are town" He then goes onto the worst of his IIoA and becomes a human library trying to throw a link out to get suspicion off himself. He is feigning helpfulness as scum and this post also highlights my next talking point, his AtA. AtA = appealing to authority. He is sucking up to what he views as the better players haha he is also trying to butt in anytime the moderator is brought up So helping newbies out is scummy? I'll have to remember that in the future.On April 20 2015 08:47 scott31337 wrote:On April 20 2015 08:43 cakepie wrote:
Fashionably late, checking in after late a night out and sleeping in half the day -- wasn’t expecting the game to kick off in mere hours! Catching up. Feel free to address questions to me and I’ll get to them when I’m done reading up to speed. What do you think of LightningStrike? And a reads list would be nice as well. in his most recent post with a forced question about someone he has had no discussion about or analysis of (asked towards cakepie about LightningStrike) this is there because CakePie has actually been shrugging off his scum aura and shining forth in the spotlight more. He has actually become a very helpful member of town. The reason Scott is doing this is scum motivated. He wants a list of reads from Cakepie to see whether or not he should be killing him tonight. If Scott himself is lower on that list, bam, the cake is a lie. There are other explanations here including his not understanding the meta of the thread, coaching, actual analysis etc but I feel like, given his earlier posting, he is using this as AtA and judging where cake stands on the issue for negative reasons. On April 20 2015 07:29 scott31337 wrote:What a night! Let me catch up in the thread - TBD picked it up a little bit, but he's still on a tight leash for now. ## UnvoteOn April 20 2015 01:30 Bill Murray wrote:
PS I'm Vanilla Townie and we need a massclaim in all likelihood. If scum don't CC power roles we will likely have around a 60% chance to win What the hell is this BM? This is a terrible idea and you know it. BM roles scum like 80% of the time anyway, RNG gods love him. On April 20 2015 06:48 Trfel wrote:For anyone who doesn't know Bill Murray, he's quite famous. This is a must read. That's an excellent read - although I have before - the whole banlist is worth a read too.  On April 20 2015 06:50 Damdred wrote:
Yeah this isn't going to be a fun game at all for me. Anyway my answers already there Are you feeling okay - or? Sorry to hear that. Looks like others went over BM's terrible idea already... And here he appeals to statistics. He has the worst reaction of anyone to my trying to get some plan rolling. Town can't afford to have this sort of plan but people who are town are going to largely mull it over. Upon reading this I'm sure you all are thinking to yourself "well he's right" but in mafia it doesnt matter whether or not you are right it matters what you can get your friendly town to do with you. When someone is saying "BM rolls scum 80%" of the time to subconsciously fuck with you guys and get me lynched that's utter bullshit. Someone thats AtS along with AtA and IIoA needs to go No, I do not think it is a terrible plan, because I think you are scum. I am going to OMGUS you and your terrible case.Lastly he was voting for TheBloodyDwarf who I completely disagree with him on. In fact I feel like he was trying to go for one of the most obvious vanilla town that is a village idiot and possibly a good mislynch From what I read on TBD's last game, he was actualy very similar before I voted for him. He started posting afterwards, and has faded - but I don't think he'll be the lynch today - tomorrow we can re-evaluate.For all of those reasons I'm voting the 3rd filter I looked at, Scott. ##vote scott331331313 ##Vote: Bill Murray![[image loading]](http://byt.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Mic-Drop.gif)
The Scott case isn't amazing but this here is like the worst reaction ever.
And I'm fine dropping my vote on him for it.
##Vote Scott
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"dropping my vote" I see what you did there
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In defense of my case being called "not amazing", it was a filter dive, so the context of it, in relation/regards to gameflow, wasn't there
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8pm EST tonight voting ends so if any person not voting reads this you need to vote
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I'm also not familiar with a lot of the terms you are using and need to look them up and am lazy at the moment so it's not amazing that way either lol
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On April 21 2015 02:10 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 02:09 Trfel wrote:
Bill Murray is being extremely persistent. While I don't like his case on scott31337, I can see him actually believing it.
I'd really like to lynch Bourneq, but it seems that I'm the only one who would. Back to the drawing board, I suppose. why dont you like my case on scott? Scott31337 has been helpful this game, as in answering questions and providing information that doesn't involve actual reads. You are scumreading him for this. I don't think that it is alignment indicative.
If town sees a question that they know the answer to, or something that they have a comment on, they will say it to help another player out.
If mafia sees a question that they know the answer to, or something that they have a comment on, they will say it to appear towny.
There's basically no way to tell which one it is, so it isn't really alignment indicative.
You say that it is suspicious that scott31337 reads Bourneq as "meh", but meh has a connotation of disapproval. Scott31337 did actually provide a read on Bourneq's play. I don't think that his wording of "is viewed as scummy" is alignment indicative. While it is somewhat strange, I can see town justifying his point by stating what is generally accepted, instead of presenting it as their own thoughts. It does make sense.
Most of your case is interpretations of scott31337's play that aren't explained at all. I don't understand how you draw the conclusions that you draw. For example, he asks cakepie for reads. Why do you assume that he is trying to identify the best night kill, when a far more likely and plausible explanation is that he simply wants more information to use to read cakepie?
His comment that you are scum 80% of the time is obviously a joke.
This just doesn't convince me that scott31337 is scum here at all.
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On April 21 2015 02:17 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 01:31 scott31337 wrote:On April 20 2015 21:35 Bourneq wrote:
Hello am I alone in this dark world?
Scott since you unvoted TBD do you mind sharing who you would wrather vote as of now? Probably from a pool of -
BM, Cakepie, PlotspotOn April 20 2015 22:54 Bill Murray wrote:You know, this setup seems absurdly scum favored upon looking at it. We REALLY Don't need a mislynch on me. IF anyone would come around right now, I would greatly enjoy some discussion. As it is, though, I am doing some filter diving. Speaking of scumteams I thought 1) we had 9 players and there were 2 scum 2) it was Cop/Doc/Goon/Goon 3) I am actually relatively confirmed village idiot at this point But you all can go ahead and lynch me I'm not even going to doublevote on someone to get the vote off of me On April 20 2015 01:03 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Hey veterans here.
What is your experience about inactive players that come to thread with post stating their reason for inactivity and haven't posted at all.
How many times they have been scums? I mean just inactivity on day1 gives them like "free" day. Less posts, less scumhunting on them.
I don't see this guy as being scum. The last part of his post is more of a "theory posed as a question" There is a guy on this website named Foolishness, who, in the prime of his mafia playing, wasn't the best mafia player. He was great as town, but as mafia, he would emulate his blue play, possibly subconsciously, and coast through D1 to D2 before he would start posting. As VT however the guy would be posting this huge ass posts detailing the possibility of entire scumteams On April 20 2015 07:14 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On April 20 2015 06:48 Trfel wrote:For anyone who doesn't know Bill Murray, he's quite famous. This is a must read. Wow, I have been banned several times on this website but damn, now there is name that I should look forward to when playing mafia. Such a legend. + Show Spoiler +/jk
Do I need to even need to stay this? I still don't think this guy should be lynched, even when he's making fun of me. I feel like he is just a bored VT. ##vote: Scott31337IIoA, AtA, AtS, voting obvious bored townie Scott has been giving any bit of off topic information, or even on topic information, without actually doing analysis. I will highlight this now: On April 19 2015 13:00 scott31337 wrote:On April 19 2015 11:18 Trfel wrote:
There is a typo in the link to scott31337's filter in the OP. There is an extra "3" in the link. Thanks - now I'm Scott31333337. *facepalm* Trfel's post looks like something he wrote up the day before and is not alignment indicative. On April 19 2015 11:49 Trfel wrote:Hm, this game feels slow already. I thought my post would get things started, but I guess that wasn't good enough. I find Bourneq to be the most suspicious so far. On April 19 2015 11:00 Bourneq wrote:
Anybody wants to request a tone read from me? Ill give a more educated response than last game.
Actually I am going to sleep, its 4 am. Bourneq asks if anyone wants to ask him for a tone read, because this is something that people asked him to do last game. And he knows that it's a townie thing to do. However, the interesting thing is that he asks if people want him to tone read someone or something. He doesn't seem inclined to do it himself. This suggests that he is more interested in appeasing others and not getting lynched than actually finding scum. Furthermore, he says that he will sleep instead of scumhunting. But why would he leave the first sentence in if he is going to sleep after all? He left it in to gain town credit for being open to doing something towny (making a read). On April 19 2015 11:21 Bourneq wrote:
Well im not tonereading that one. TL;DR Then, someone in his previous game made a post. And Bourneq acknowledges it and says that he wasn't going to read it. Why does Bourneq feel a need to acknowledge my post? He already said that he's tired and he will be going to bed. His post doesn't help town in any way, but it makes him seem more involved in the game (which is false, since he didn't bother to toneread anyone at all). I'll be heading out again for a while. Any thoughts? When I first read this, I thought Bourneq was asking for tone reads on himself, which I did not understand since he only had one post. Reading your point of view, I do not know what tone reads he would give off - and then added the TLDR post - meh. What do you think of the LS/Damdred exchange? I know LS can be intimidated - and avoiding questions intentionally is viewed as scummy. Even in his most scumhunting sounding post, he chooses to word it as "is viewed as scummy" as opposed to "is scummy". His previous scumhunting analysis is a whopping "meh"... literally. He literally says that. What can we get out of someone saying "meh" ? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Yes, I have a meh read - not enough to go one way or the other, espically on Day 1 - is that possible? YES!On April 19 2015 14:27 scott31337 wrote:
I really don't have much at the moment - Damdred slight town - you as well -
I believe Shining is still upset about the case I made about him four months ago in LX.
Everyone else null ATM his one town post, the above, even feels forced. he throws out a couple leans as bones to the town, and then goes on to finish it with the almighty "Everyone is null" Yeah it's early in the game but this is different. This is him trying to coast through while having activity for the sake of activity without committing to any analysis whatsoever. Everyone else was null - Damdred and OWS were stirring the thread in the right direction, and I did not have an opionion on anybody else yet. If I added to that now, I'd give a slight town to Trfel - him and Damdred going at it looks innocent, and you look a little scummy. Fair? On April 19 2015 14:37 scott31337 wrote:On April 19 2015 14:35 LeiNadk wrote:
Could someone explain to me precisely what a tone read is? From context, I'm assuming, it's something Bourne was asked to do last game and got mislynched for.
Sorry about all the questions. Should I direct these questions to coaches rather post them in the game? I'll let one of the others answer the "tone read" question better then I can - but from the rules/first post, Do not talk about coaching in the game. just FYI More IIoA. Bringing up a topic and not even answering it. He defers. This is my second game - I wanted someone else to explain a "tone read" better then me looking up mafiawiki or urban dictionary - nobody ever did though. On April 19 2015 14:44 scott31337 wrote:On April 19 2015 14:38 LeiNadk wrote:On April 19 2015 14:27 scott31337 wrote:
I really don't have much at the moment - Damdred slight town - you as well -
I believe Shining is still upset about the case I made about him four months ago in LX.
Everyone else null ATM Could you elaborate on Damdred and Obi? Why town? Obi and Damdred have been asking questions and offering their ideas and they feel honest to me so far. From your message I assumed you have played IRL mafia before, correct? There is the TL Mafia Database that has information on others mafia games played on this site - if you want to look into peoples previous games. When directly questioned comes up with a bullshit excuse based upon "he feels obi and damdred are town" He then goes onto the worst of his IIoA and becomes a human library trying to throw a link out to get suspicion off himself. He is feigning helpfulness as scum and this post also highlights my next talking point, his AtA. AtA = appealing to authority. He is sucking up to what he views as the better players haha he is also trying to butt in anytime the moderator is brought up So helping newbies out is scummy? I'll have to remember that in the future.On April 20 2015 08:47 scott31337 wrote:On April 20 2015 08:43 cakepie wrote:
Fashionably late, checking in after late a night out and sleeping in half the day -- wasn’t expecting the game to kick off in mere hours! Catching up. Feel free to address questions to me and I’ll get to them when I’m done reading up to speed. What do you think of LightningStrike? And a reads list would be nice as well. in his most recent post with a forced question about someone he has had no discussion about or analysis of (asked towards cakepie about LightningStrike) this is there because CakePie has actually been shrugging off his scum aura and shining forth in the spotlight more. He has actually become a very helpful member of town. The reason Scott is doing this is scum motivated. He wants a list of reads from Cakepie to see whether or not he should be killing him tonight. If Scott himself is lower on that list, bam, the cake is a lie. There are other explanations here including his not understanding the meta of the thread, coaching, actual analysis etc but I feel like, given his earlier posting, he is using this as AtA and judging where cake stands on the issue for negative reasons. On April 20 2015 07:29 scott31337 wrote:What a night! Let me catch up in the thread - TBD picked it up a little bit, but he's still on a tight leash for now. ## UnvoteOn April 20 2015 01:30 Bill Murray wrote:
PS I'm Vanilla Townie and we need a massclaim in all likelihood. If scum don't CC power roles we will likely have around a 60% chance to win What the hell is this BM? This is a terrible idea and you know it. BM roles scum like 80% of the time anyway, RNG gods love him. On April 20 2015 06:48 Trfel wrote:For anyone who doesn't know Bill Murray, he's quite famous. This is a must read. That's an excellent read - although I have before - the whole banlist is worth a read too. On April 20 2015 06:50 Damdred wrote:
Yeah this isn't going to be a fun game at all for me. Anyway my answers already there Are you feeling okay - or? Sorry to hear that. Looks like others went over BM's terrible idea already... And here he appeals to statistics. He has the worst reaction of anyone to my trying to get some plan rolling. Town can't afford to have this sort of plan but people who are town are going to largely mull it over. Upon reading this I'm sure you all are thinking to yourself "well he's right" but in mafia it doesnt matter whether or not you are right it matters what you can get your friendly town to do with you. When someone is saying "BM rolls scum 80%" of the time to subconsciously fuck with you guys and get me lynched that's utter bullshit. Someone thats AtS along with AtA and IIoA needs to go No, I do not think it is a terrible plan, because I think you are scum. I am going to OMGUS you and your terrible case.Lastly he was voting for TheBloodyDwarf who I completely disagree with him on. In fact I feel like he was trying to go for one of the most obvious vanilla town that is a village idiot and possibly a good mislynch From what I read on TBD's last game, he was actualy very similar before I voted for him. He started posting afterwards, and has faded - but I don't think he'll be the lynch today - tomorrow we can re-evaluate.For all of those reasons I'm voting the 3rd filter I looked at, Scott. ##vote scott331331313 ##Vote: Bill Murray The Scott case isn't amazing but this here is like the worst reaction ever. And I'm fine dropping my vote on him for it. ##Vote Scott
You did read the bold points I added in the quote to answer his case, correct?
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Effective immediately, plotspot has been replaced by HolyFlare
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in no world did anyone realize you put bold points in there scott
i thought you had a 1 word reply
furthermore how do you ever vote someone because they have a case on you? my vote stands
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Vote Count
cakepie (2): ObiWanShinobi, Damdred
scott31337 (2): Bill Murray, Onegu
Bill Murray (1): Scott31337
Bourneq (1): Trfel
HolyFlare (1): cakepie
Not voting (6): TheBloodyDwarf, LightningStrike, LeiNadk, The Shining, Bourneq, HolyFlare
Currently, cakepie is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 01:00 GMT (+00:00).
Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
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On April 21 2015 02:50 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 02:17 Onegu wrote:On April 21 2015 01:31 scott31337 wrote:On April 20 2015 21:35 Bourneq wrote:
Hello am I alone in this dark world?
Scott since you unvoted TBD do you mind sharing who you would wrather vote as of now? Probably from a pool of -
BM, Cakepie, PlotspotOn April 20 2015 22:54 Bill Murray wrote:You know, this setup seems absurdly scum favored upon looking at it. We REALLY Don't need a mislynch on me. IF anyone would come around right now, I would greatly enjoy some discussion. As it is, though, I am doing some filter diving. Speaking of scumteams I thought 1) we had 9 players and there were 2 scum 2) it was Cop/Doc/Goon/Goon 3) I am actually relatively confirmed village idiot at this point But you all can go ahead and lynch me I'm not even going to doublevote on someone to get the vote off of me On April 20 2015 01:03 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Hey veterans here.
What is your experience about inactive players that come to thread with post stating their reason for inactivity and haven't posted at all.
How many times they have been scums? I mean just inactivity on day1 gives them like "free" day. Less posts, less scumhunting on them.
I don't see this guy as being scum. The last part of his post is more of a "theory posed as a question" There is a guy on this website named Foolishness, who, in the prime of his mafia playing, wasn't the best mafia player. He was great as town, but as mafia, he would emulate his blue play, possibly subconsciously, and coast through D1 to D2 before he would start posting. As VT however the guy would be posting this huge ass posts detailing the possibility of entire scumteams On April 20 2015 07:14 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On April 20 2015 06:48 Trfel wrote:For anyone who doesn't know Bill Murray, he's quite famous. This is a must read. Wow, I have been banned several times on this website but damn, now there is name that I should look forward to when playing mafia. Such a legend. + Show Spoiler +/jk
Do I need to even need to stay this? I still don't think this guy should be lynched, even when he's making fun of me. I feel like he is just a bored VT. ##vote: Scott31337IIoA, AtA, AtS, voting obvious bored townie Scott has been giving any bit of off topic information, or even on topic information, without actually doing analysis. I will highlight this now: On April 19 2015 13:00 scott31337 wrote:On April 19 2015 11:18 Trfel wrote:
There is a typo in the link to scott31337's filter in the OP. There is an extra "3" in the link. Thanks - now I'm Scott31333337. *facepalm* Trfel's post looks like something he wrote up the day before and is not alignment indicative. On April 19 2015 11:49 Trfel wrote:Hm, this game feels slow already. I thought my post would get things started, but I guess that wasn't good enough. I find Bourneq to be the most suspicious so far. On April 19 2015 11:00 Bourneq wrote:
Anybody wants to request a tone read from me? Ill give a more educated response than last game.
Actually I am going to sleep, its 4 am. Bourneq asks if anyone wants to ask him for a tone read, because this is something that people asked him to do last game. And he knows that it's a townie thing to do. However, the interesting thing is that he asks if people want him to tone read someone or something. He doesn't seem inclined to do it himself. This suggests that he is more interested in appeasing others and not getting lynched than actually finding scum. Furthermore, he says that he will sleep instead of scumhunting. But why would he leave the first sentence in if he is going to sleep after all? He left it in to gain town credit for being open to doing something towny (making a read). On April 19 2015 11:21 Bourneq wrote:
Well im not tonereading that one. TL;DR Then, someone in his previous game made a post. And Bourneq acknowledges it and says that he wasn't going to read it. Why does Bourneq feel a need to acknowledge my post? He already said that he's tired and he will be going to bed. His post doesn't help town in any way, but it makes him seem more involved in the game (which is false, since he didn't bother to toneread anyone at all). I'll be heading out again for a while. Any thoughts? When I first read this, I thought Bourneq was asking for tone reads on himself, which I did not understand since he only had one post. Reading your point of view, I do not know what tone reads he would give off - and then added the TLDR post - meh. What do you think of the LS/Damdred exchange? I know LS can be intimidated - and avoiding questions intentionally is viewed as scummy. Even in his most scumhunting sounding post, he chooses to word it as "is viewed as scummy" as opposed to "is scummy". His previous scumhunting analysis is a whopping "meh"... literally. He literally says that. What can we get out of someone saying "meh" ? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Yes, I have a meh read - not enough to go one way or the other, espically on Day 1 - is that possible? YES!On April 19 2015 14:27 scott31337 wrote:
I really don't have much at the moment - Damdred slight town - you as well -
I believe Shining is still upset about the case I made about him four months ago in LX.
Everyone else null ATM his one town post, the above, even feels forced. he throws out a couple leans as bones to the town, and then goes on to finish it with the almighty "Everyone is null" Yeah it's early in the game but this is different. This is him trying to coast through while having activity for the sake of activity without committing to any analysis whatsoever. Everyone else was null - Damdred and OWS were stirring the thread in the right direction, and I did not have an opionion on anybody else yet. If I added to that now, I'd give a slight town to Trfel - him and Damdred going at it looks innocent, and you look a little scummy. Fair? On April 19 2015 14:37 scott31337 wrote:On April 19 2015 14:35 LeiNadk wrote:
Could someone explain to me precisely what a tone read is? From context, I'm assuming, it's something Bourne was asked to do last game and got mislynched for.
Sorry about all the questions. Should I direct these questions to coaches rather post them in the game? I'll let one of the others answer the "tone read" question better then I can - but from the rules/first post, Do not talk about coaching in the game. just FYI More IIoA. Bringing up a topic and not even answering it. He defers. This is my second game - I wanted someone else to explain a "tone read" better then me looking up mafiawiki or urban dictionary - nobody ever did though. On April 19 2015 14:44 scott31337 wrote:On April 19 2015 14:38 LeiNadk wrote:On April 19 2015 14:27 scott31337 wrote:
I really don't have much at the moment - Damdred slight town - you as well -
I believe Shining is still upset about the case I made about him four months ago in LX.
Everyone else null ATM Could you elaborate on Damdred and Obi? Why town? Obi and Damdred have been asking questions and offering their ideas and they feel honest to me so far. From your message I assumed you have played IRL mafia before, correct? There is the TL Mafia Database that has information on others mafia games played on this site - if you want to look into peoples previous games. When directly questioned comes up with a bullshit excuse based upon "he feels obi and damdred are town" He then goes onto the worst of his IIoA and becomes a human library trying to throw a link out to get suspicion off himself. He is feigning helpfulness as scum and this post also highlights my next talking point, his AtA. AtA = appealing to authority. He is sucking up to what he views as the better players haha he is also trying to butt in anytime the moderator is brought up So helping newbies out is scummy? I'll have to remember that in the future.On April 20 2015 08:47 scott31337 wrote:On April 20 2015 08:43 cakepie wrote:
Fashionably late, checking in after late a night out and sleeping in half the day -- wasn’t expecting the game to kick off in mere hours! Catching up. Feel free to address questions to me and I’ll get to them when I’m done reading up to speed. What do you think of LightningStrike? And a reads list would be nice as well. in his most recent post with a forced question about someone he has had no discussion about or analysis of (asked towards cakepie about LightningStrike) this is there because CakePie has actually been shrugging off his scum aura and shining forth in the spotlight more. He has actually become a very helpful member of town. The reason Scott is doing this is scum motivated. He wants a list of reads from Cakepie to see whether or not he should be killing him tonight. If Scott himself is lower on that list, bam, the cake is a lie. There are other explanations here including his not understanding the meta of the thread, coaching, actual analysis etc but I feel like, given his earlier posting, he is using this as AtA and judging where cake stands on the issue for negative reasons. On April 20 2015 07:29 scott31337 wrote:What a night! Let me catch up in the thread - TBD picked it up a little bit, but he's still on a tight leash for now. ## UnvoteOn April 20 2015 01:30 Bill Murray wrote:
PS I'm Vanilla Townie and we need a massclaim in all likelihood. If scum don't CC power roles we will likely have around a 60% chance to win What the hell is this BM? This is a terrible idea and you know it. BM roles scum like 80% of the time anyway, RNG gods love him. On April 20 2015 06:48 Trfel wrote:For anyone who doesn't know Bill Murray, he's quite famous. This is a must read. That's an excellent read - although I have before - the whole banlist is worth a read too. On April 20 2015 06:50 Damdred wrote:
Yeah this isn't going to be a fun game at all for me. Anyway my answers already there Are you feeling okay - or? Sorry to hear that. Looks like others went over BM's terrible idea already... And here he appeals to statistics. He has the worst reaction of anyone to my trying to get some plan rolling. Town can't afford to have this sort of plan but people who are town are going to largely mull it over. Upon reading this I'm sure you all are thinking to yourself "well he's right" but in mafia it doesnt matter whether or not you are right it matters what you can get your friendly town to do with you. When someone is saying "BM rolls scum 80%" of the time to subconsciously fuck with you guys and get me lynched that's utter bullshit. Someone thats AtS along with AtA and IIoA needs to go No, I do not think it is a terrible plan, because I think you are scum. I am going to OMGUS you and your terrible case.Lastly he was voting for TheBloodyDwarf who I completely disagree with him on. In fact I feel like he was trying to go for one of the most obvious vanilla town that is a village idiot and possibly a good mislynch From what I read on TBD's last game, he was actualy very similar before I voted for him. He started posting afterwards, and has faded - but I don't think he'll be the lynch today - tomorrow we can re-evaluate.For all of those reasons I'm voting the 3rd filter I looked at, Scott. ##vote scott331331313 ##Vote: Bill Murray The Scott case isn't amazing but this here is like the worst reaction ever. And I'm fine dropping my vote on him for it. ##Vote Scott You did read the bold points I added in the quote to answer his case, correct?
Sigh. No moment...
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Hello, Holyflare.
This game is extremely inactive. Town isn't managing to do much of anything.
There is some suspicion on Bill Murray for bluehunting.
Some people want to lynch cakepie for taking a very long time between starting to read the game and posting reads, as well as being non-committal.
I want to lynch Bourneq for a terrible read progression, but no one else agrees with me.
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There are SO MANY PEOPLE NOT VOTING.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO LYNCH ACTIVE PLAYERS.
REALLY, GUYS?
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I would say that this post is a good summary of the game, but I'm not sure that everyone would agree.
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Saying this is your second game isn't a defense for you Scott. You have obs like 50 or something...
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Yes, I have a meh read - not enough to go one way or the other, espically on Day 1 - is that possible? YES!Everyone else was null - Damdred and OWS were stirring the thread in the right direction, and I did not have an opionion on anybody else yet. If I added to that now, I'd give a slight town to Trfel - him and Damdred going at it looks innocent, and you look a little scummy. Fair? This is my second game - I wanted someone else to explain a "tone read" better then me looking up mafiawiki or urban dictionary - nobody ever did though. So helping newbies out is scummy? I'll have to remember that in the future. No, I do not think it is a terrible plan, because I think you are scum. I am going to OMGUS you and your terrible case.
From what I read on TBD's last game, he was actualy very similar before I voted for him. He started posting afterwards, and has faded - but I don't think he'll be the lynch today - tomorrow we can re-evaluate.
So you go in the same post saying "billmurray looks a little scummy" to "I think you are scum" Big jump there Scott.
You are still AtA even in your defense trying to suck up to what you view as the better players... I can tell you are new or else you wouldn't find them to be good players. Ah, it's your second game. That makes sense. also *than not then. It doesn't matter if you are wanting someone to explain it better than me. That was just the icing on the cake. You are consistently deferring to other people to make analysis for you because, it is my opinion, that you have an entire player list nailed down on who is town/mafia because of deductive reasoning. This comes across in the wording of your posts. You are trying very hard to say this person leans this way or that person leans that way when to me it feels forced and contrived.
I'm not coming off my vote. The fact you know and say you're OMGUSING me because "my case is bad" when you didn't even understand the major times you were giving information instead of analysis, appealing to authority, appealing to statistics, and pushing what you would view as an easy mislynch (which you are guilty of twice now considering your omgus and how often i am mislynched on d1 [so make that bloodydwarf and myself]) yeah i'll go ahead and paint you red.
All in all you are beginning to look like scum to me, especially given your reaction to my case, which I'll admit was somewhat reaching
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On April 21 2015 02:59 Trfel wrote:
Hello, Holyflare.
This game is extremely inactive. Town isn't managing to do much of anything.
There is some suspicion on Bill Murray for bluehunting.
Some people want to lynch cakepie for taking a very long time between starting to read the game and posting reads, as well as being non-committal.
I want to lynch Bourneq for a terrible read progression, but no one else agrees with me.
ME, BLUEHUNTING? ARE YOU DUMB? DAFT?
If I wanted to bluehunt I would just nightkill them
wow.
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How about you read the actual thread you posted about me Trfel? Remember when I was blue and I was calling for Mad Hatters to claim to me in PM? If I'm "blue hunting" IN THE THREAD I'm always town
You want me to defend myself buddy?
1) I have made 2 major posts which is way more effort than I put in as mafia
2) I have been analyzing the setup regarding when we will hit lylo/mylo given different circumstances
3) I accidentally didn't realize the setup in and of itself which is a mistake mafia would be unable to make
You can attack me for self meta because I realize self meta is the worst meta but any meta is better than no meta
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