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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
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Sepulchre
United States141 Posts
On April 02 2015 06:11 Koshi wrote: Some mafia get stronger by killing town counterparts. Hm. Could somebody tell me if this is known and confirmed and all those good things? Because I don't know how you would, seeing as none flipped yet (most likely) | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Little Birds: Every night you may send your little birds to target a player and recieve damning information. Target player will be hit with 0.5 KP for each investigative check he receives or is a part of. You will be informed how much KP this ability deals each night. Extensive Disguise: Every day phase, you may PM the host with a rolename and alignment. You will appear as that rolename and alignment for the remainder of the cycle. A New King on the Throne: Once per game during the night phase, you may target a player. That player's vote the following day is worth X where X equals 1/2 rounded down the number of players. If this causes multiple people to reach a majority or greater, then multiple people will be lynched. I was thinking about these powers that xfire made up. Don't they seem a bit too.... Tmi ish? Given we have a million cop roles now + the majority vote thing? Looks... Weird? Like who says majority before the lynch is majority unless you KNOW it's getting made into a majority lynch??? | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
On April 02 2015 06:31 Sepulchre wrote: Hm. Could somebody tell me if this is known and confirmed and all those good things? Because I don't know how you would, seeing as none flipped yet (most likely) Yeah how would Koshi know this? Seems like a pretty big assumption | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On April 02 2015 06:31 Holyflare wrote: I was thinking about these powers that xfire made up. Don't they seem a bit too.... Tmi ish? Given we have a million cop roles now + the majority vote thing? Looks... Weird? Like who says majority before the lynch is majority unless you KNOW it's getting made into a majority lynch??? Sickest read. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
i think that's a stretch HF ^^; | ||
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justanothertownie
16322 Posts
On April 02 2015 06:31 Holyflare wrote: I was thinking about these powers that xfire made up. Don't they seem a bit too.... Tmi ish? Given we have a million cop roles now + the majority vote thing? Looks... Weird? Like who says majority before the lynch is majority unless you KNOW it's getting made into a majority lynch??? Because the lynches in this game are always majority lynches? | ||
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Sepulchre
United States141 Posts
On April 02 2015 06:31 Holyflare wrote: I was thinking about these powers that xfire made up. Don't they seem a bit too.... Tmi ish? Given we have a million cop roles now + the majority vote thing? Looks... Weird? Like who says majority before the lynch is majority unless you KNOW it's getting made into a majority lynch??? Would mafia know about the majority lynch? I would think that information is either public, or fully secret. Everything else would just be biased. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Carry on | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
as for the majority lynch thing it's obviously a stretch cool almost catch holyflare? lol | ||
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geript
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On April 02 2015 06:35 Sepulchre wrote: Would mafia know about the majority lynch? I would think that information is either public, or fully secret. Everything else would just be biased. You haven't said anything in the thread in like almost 48 hours. Where's your head at? | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
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Sepulchre
United States141 Posts
On April 02 2015 06:44 Keirathi wrote: You haven't said anything in the thread in like almost 48 hours. Where's your head at? Mostly confused. If Alakaslam isn't removed in an hour we'll probably have to lynch him tomorrow to avoid further bad surprises. If Trfel doesn't use his stuff to help out we'll probably have to lynch him the day after so he can't buttsex us either. Throw Damdred onto that pile too. Gotta hope for some town KP I suppose or the mafia just kill us while we're dealing with third parties. Annoying is an understatement. My strongest scumread is currently batsnacks, and I don't even know when we could ever get around to that one. I suppose I'll find out soon enough. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
i am indeed town. if mafia is smart they won't kill me because the moment they do kitaman will look worse thank you damdred for that lol >< kita and va are almost definitely mafia...so that's a start...kita was one of the players questioning the va lynch the strongest and didn't want to shoot him lightningstrike, koshi, onegu, ExO_, Crossfire, and blazinghand are all almost definitely town or town-aligned snarfs, jat, HF and damdred comprise the second tier sepu i am also very suspicious of. he was unwilling to engage via pm, simply saying i was town and therefore not of interest to him...the rest of his posting has been lackluster. also it's amusing how he's trying to throw the conversation from kita off onto our 3p claims (slam, trfel and damdred) good show, sepu, good show hts is too non-committal for me. most of her reads mimic others' reads, she's been soft-defending sepu, va, and kita all game if you look through her filter (yes i realize this is a pre-flip association, but as it came to mind and i'm not 100% i'll be around later, might as well put it out there) she apparently found me "scummy" but instead of approaching me and trying to learn my alignment, as others did (notably damdred) she went whispering her suspicions to others slam is slam rest of the players are hovering around null for various reasons, including trfel and WoS, so there is probably mafia somewhere in there | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
LightningStrike - Has a towny sounding role claim. I'm still assuming he gets shot at some point so I haven't looked at him a ton. Onegu - Claimed role in thread and tries to work with cleric to produce gun on d1. Transparency typically a townie trait...though it would be nice to figure out why his role didn't work n1. justanothertownie - Active in PMs and trying to solve things. Would re-evaluate closer to to lylo, but seems town. rsoultin - Seems town. Would be another that I'd re-evaluate closer to lylo. Maybe damdred's item tells us something. Towny/Null WaveofShadow - Has a day vig shot and PMs others asking how it should be used. It's possible that he was looking for people to tell him to shoot hapa, but like I said earlier if I had his role I'd simply use it on whoever is the biggest threat to mafia, which wasn't an afk hapa. Koshi - Town based on activity and giving out reads and pushing them often. If there is a mafia playing the endgame role, then he likely is the one for paranoia reasons that I'm not going to entertain right now. Half the Sky - Provided a claim pretty easily. Mafia typically don't give out information they don't need to since it comes back to hurt them if they're caught lying. I haven't looked at her content wise in a long time. I probably should do my due diligence if I survive the night. Keirathi - According to JAT, he was pretty willing to cooperate in solving things via PM. Snarfs - Not going to deny its anything other than his willingness to claim his role early. Crossfire99 - As I said earlier, he bread crumbed strongbad so if Moriarty is mafia like we assume, that would mean mafia is checking a different mafia player who is actually strongbad, which makes both xfire and that other mafia player outed if any role cop reveals the true strongbad. His actual posts have little value and he hasn't done a ton to try to help town aside from the fake death and I was scummy null on him before the death, but I'd put others higher on the chopping board. Blazinghand - Well the whole Lestrade/Moriarty thing suggest town if Moriarty is mafia. Moriarty hasn't claimed so that seems to be the assumption to make for now. Thought he looked mafia on day one based on the quotes I posted. Null ObiWanShinobi - Claims a role that was mafia in a previous teamliquid game. Not sure how to interpret this. At one people he was asking several times if people were around to chat, which he also did in one of his mafia games. Really small sample size here though. When we did exchange PM's he asked me about my mason ability, which was about the least relevant thing in the game considering everyone was a d2 mason. He did give up the claim willingly, so there is that. Exo_ - Maybe townie null. Admits to own the day ending thing so thats a plus for him. Other Ran out of time on these two (I blame damdred). One or both may be mafia by process of elimination. yamato77 VisceraEyes Leaning Mafia batsnacks - I honestly can't remember a game where I've read him as town, but I still think he is mafia. Shows no willingness to cooperate in PM land. In the thread, he doesn't have any town tells. He is going after easy targets, that a lot of other people would consider 50/50 coinflip reasons. Seems like he is picking the side of the coin he wants to view things as. Sepulchre - He goes out of his way to tell me that he spent his entire day on xfire post flip analysis and how it is all wasted. Seems like it may be a situation where he is trying to push the idea that he couldn't possibly have known that xfire wasn't actually mafia (if xfire is indeed not actually mafia). VayneAuthority - Claims a plansewalker role similar to Hapa, but only reveals two roles. I questioned the claim because it didn't make sense, especially compared to Hapa's flip. He explains there was a third role, but it is a "passive that he doesn't know how it works so he can't share". That seems pretty sketchy especially because he was withholding that part upon first claiming. I didn't like how he posted how I was 100% town and "I thought kita had a brain but apparently he is brainwashed too" when I first suggested how he likely had more than two roles. He changed his tune when I provided evidence that he had more than two. A lot of this comes down to whether or not marv actually checked him. It's annoying that marv didn't take advantage of PMs to reveal his target to his number one town read. 3p/mafia: Alakaslam - Slam has played the blatant anti-town role before. Either way he totally wrecked day two so he most certainly needs to be held accountable. In PMs, he admitted to making up the stuff about BH being lynched killing off the mayor. Look closer at that if he flips red at any point. He also claims to need to kill JAT as part of his win condition, but that's probably another lie. Don't assume 3P because he is almost certainly anti-town based on his actions. Other 3p claims: Holyflare - There were others that I said I would re-evaluate closer to lylo, but he is someone worth re-evaluating much sooner than that, but probably not until the first couple mafia are flipped (hopefully that actually happens -_-) Damdred - It probably goes without saying that I don't trust him. He promised a gun on n1, but didn't deliver. As far as I know, that gun didn't end up anywhere unless mafia is holding on to it or he was lying. As I mentioned earlier though, it seems weird that a mafia damdred would claim to need to kill gordon and then need an excuse if gordon is still around. His excuse for using the item is suspect as I'm one of the two players he claims to have trusted enough to tell about the day vig, but then suddenly he doesn't trust me so he wants to check me with this item that may or may not exist. Trfel - Really should pressure him to dual on n3, since I wasn't able to get things going tonight. How come we can't get any pro-town 3p claims? -_- | ||
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justanothertownie
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
ATTENTION! ![[image loading]](http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/110/e/3/surrealism___aperture_science_by_corporalspycrab-d4wznjy.png) It is now the night action resolution period! No posting until the day post! | ||
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geript
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