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On March 31 2015 05:31 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 04:48 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 31 2015 04:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
HtS SEEMS townie but I get a REAAALLY cautious feel in general from filter. Discuss. Language like "Shout if I'm wrong" and "I could be off" etc etc I like this.
Wave, I think you're scum.
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On March 31 2015 05:25 Half the Sky wrote:Alright Crossfire is scum. Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 06:05 Holyflare wrote:
i think we should default lynch sicklucker for having 3 page filter in a 101 page game when his mafia tell that he loves to talk about is having no filter
/discuss Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
i will lynch sicklucker for either being mafia or 3p with a good chance of being mafia for having 3 pages of filter because i'd feel like as 3p he's be just as productive as town
it also allows all these "coin flip" ppl to talk more Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 07:26 Holyflare wrote:
a lynch on sl is a lynch on guaranteed not town! Holyflare talks anti-sicklucker for at least 60-90m prior to Crossfire voting him. Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 07:39 Crossfire99 wrote:
I had to step away, but I'm back now. I see now BH is a target but slam doesn't want him lynched because he and the lyncher will die. Hmmmm. Kita's post on BH looks good and I have a town read on kita, so I'd want BH dead, but not if it kills the lyncher which will probably be rsoultin.
I'm thinking of voting for HF because he needs to be in the top 3 because he's town. Yeah, I'll vote for HF now.
##Vote: HolyFlare And no mention of sicklucker or Hapa in the post where he votes Holyflare. Even better he tries to use a filter length argument for defending sicklucker but if he believed HF was making the wrong choice, he should have at least pushed Hapa moreor moved his vote to someone that would have supported whom he felt was scum, just as he said from the off. I checked the vote thread. No such change. It was a soft push against. He's scum.
so to be clear, Crossfire votes to elect HF while HF is pushing SL, and crossfire has a townread on SL, so he wouldn't try to elect someone who had a scumread on his townread. is that what you're saying?
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On March 31 2015 05:28 justanothertownie wrote:
When did he do that?
JAT, this is the post I am referring to (attention to bold). According to the timestamps 5m before EoD.
On March 30 2015 07:54 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 07:47 Holyflare wrote:On March 30 2015 07:42 Holyflare wrote:
i am NOT voting bh, i am voting sicklucker for now until people tell me otherwise this guy has 3 pages of filter look at all the games he has played in how he references his scum meta: On January 31 2015 07:53 sicklucker wrote:On January 31 2015 07:31 Eden1892 wrote:On January 31 2015 07:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Game's been going for longer than 10 minutes and SL has less than 1 page of filter
##vote sicklucker A++ This is a absolutely terrible read. The only time ive rolled mafia mspaint. I froze up and had a 2-4 page filter day1. Dandred/chezina my mafia partners can verify this. I was super afraid to post early in that game. I want to scum read ff for it since he was in that game. But he just puts scum on me everygame and im always town. The one time I was mafia he actually laid off me. On March 19 2015 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2015 19:57 Holyflare wrote:On March 19 2015 19:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2015 19:55 Holyflare wrote:On March 19 2015 19:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Probably has to do something with the range when mafia is more likely to put their vote on a certain wagon.
Holyflare the Toad - Palmar fest. Does it mean anything? probably nothing at all, but it kind of reminds me of toad going ham on geript in that game i bussed everyone yeah me too.  but let's not talk about more of it yet. Talk to me about sicklucker. I don't understand why people are voting for him. well he lied/forgot about stuff which i guess isn't indicative but then he put in a spoiler that he should be confirmed by filter length when he used that argument in void or w/e it was and was mafia with a longer filter so i'm kinda just keeping it on him till he does something useful The logest games he has been alive in are: TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells Town Vanilla Survived Night 5 (28 pages of filter) Imperial Mafia Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 6 (19 pages)The Void Mafia Mafia Rolecop Survived Day 5 (52 pages) Campus Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 7 (35 pages) VI Titanic Mini Mafia: The Return of MSPaint Mafia Roleblocker Endgamed Day 5 (14 pages)I think by simple post/phase comparison he is not lying. Like i don't care what he said as scum in Void, but i don't think him saying that here makes him mafia. i agree he should start being useful. each time as mafia he has lower page counts I looked at his the filter lengths from other games and he's put up 8ish pages on day 1 in linux and 11 in slytherin by day 2. He was scum in both and was dead for the rest of those games. He had 8 and 10 in PYP protoss and horn as town for both dying in days 2 and 1 respectively. I'm not sure if we can make a determination just based off of day 1 here. I think it will take longer to figure out based on filter length.
It's not a "hard" defence, but he's trying to dissuade a sicklucker lynch. That's what I'm getting at.
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He didn't town read sl at all he said it isn't clear by filter length.
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On March 31 2015 05:35 Half the Sky wrote:JAT, this is the post I am referring to (attention to bold). According to the timestamps 5m before EoD. Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 07:54 Crossfire99 wrote:On March 30 2015 07:47 Holyflare wrote:On March 30 2015 07:42 Holyflare wrote:
i am NOT voting bh, i am voting sicklucker for now until people tell me otherwise this guy has 3 pages of filter look at all the games he has played in how he references his scum meta: On January 31 2015 07:53 sicklucker wrote:On January 31 2015 07:31 Eden1892 wrote:On January 31 2015 07:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Game's been going for longer than 10 minutes and SL has less than 1 page of filter
##vote sicklucker A++ This is a absolutely terrible read. The only time ive rolled mafia mspaint. I froze up and had a 2-4 page filter day1. Dandred/chezina my mafia partners can verify this. I was super afraid to post early in that game. I want to scum read ff for it since he was in that game. But he just puts scum on me everygame and im always town. The one time I was mafia he actually laid off me. On March 19 2015 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2015 19:57 Holyflare wrote:On March 19 2015 19:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2015 19:55 Holyflare wrote:On March 19 2015 19:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Probably has to do something with the range when mafia is more likely to put their vote on a certain wagon.
Holyflare the Toad - Palmar fest. Does it mean anything? probably nothing at all, but it kind of reminds me of toad going ham on geript in that game i bussed everyone yeah me too. but let's not talk about more of it yet. Talk to me about sicklucker. I don't understand why people are voting for him. well he lied/forgot about stuff which i guess isn't indicative but then he put in a spoiler that he should be confirmed by filter length when he used that argument in void or w/e it was and was mafia with a longer filter so i'm kinda just keeping it on him till he does something useful The logest games he has been alive in are: TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells Town Vanilla Survived Night 5 (28 pages of filter) Imperial Mafia Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 6 (19 pages)The Void Mafia Mafia Rolecop Survived Day 5 (52 pages) Campus Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 7 (35 pages) VI Titanic Mini Mafia: The Return of MSPaint Mafia Roleblocker Endgamed Day 5 (14 pages)I think by simple post/phase comparison he is not lying. Like i don't care what he said as scum in Void, but i don't think him saying that here makes him mafia. i agree he should start being useful. each time as mafia he has lower page counts I looked at his the filter lengths from other games and he's put up 8ish pages on day 1 in linux and 11 in slytherin by day 2. He was scum in both and was dead for the rest of those games. He had 8 and 10 in PYP protoss and horn as town for both dying in days 2 and 1 respectively. I'm not sure if we can make a determination just based off of day 1 here. I think it will take longer to figure out based on filter length. It's not a "hard" defence, but he's trying to dissuade a sicklucker lynch. That's what I'm getting at.
Ok, I guess. But I wouldn't call that a defense based on filter size. It is a defense against filter size arguments. You might be onto something though.
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On March 31 2015 05:32 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 05:31 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 31 2015 04:48 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 31 2015 04:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
HtS SEEMS townie but I get a REAAALLY cautious feel in general from filter. Discuss. Language like "Shout if I'm wrong" and "I could be off" etc etc I like this. Wave, I think you're scum.
Join the club.
What are you gonna do about it bru?
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On March 31 2015 05:33 Blazinghand wrote:
so to be clear, Crossfire votes to elect HF while HF is pushing SL, and crossfire has a townread on SL, so he wouldn't try to elect someone who had a scumread on his townread. is that what you're saying?
No he doesn't have a townread, but he's dissuading the lynch whereas he was pushing others (Hapa) more strongly. The expectation that he set for himself:
On March 28 2015 08:07 Crossfire99 wrote:
I'm probably just going to vote for the person who wants to lynch someone who I think is scum. I don't think we need to get any more complicated than that. Obviously, people will need to say who they want to lynch so we can do that. So we basically just play mafia.
In essence, it was incongruent with what he said at the beginning. I can understand if his read develops or changes on an individual person or something but this isn't the case.
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I mean, I posted a case on crossfire already and it's convincing enough.
You're welcome, game.
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On March 31 2015 05:37 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 05:32 yamato77 wrote:On March 31 2015 05:31 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 31 2015 04:48 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 31 2015 04:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
HtS SEEMS townie but I get a REAAALLY cautious feel in general from filter. Discuss. Language like "Shout if I'm wrong" and "I could be off" etc etc I like this. Wave, I think you're scum. Join the club. What are you gonna do about it bru?
Kill you?
What else would I do?
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On March 31 2015 04:03 Blazinghand wrote:So what's this hapa case all about Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 03:49 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 31 2015 03:48 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 31 2015 03:28 Blazinghand wrote:On March 30 2015 23:45 Half the Sky wrote:On March 30 2015 23:32 justanothertownie wrote:
HTS are you seriously questioning why people didn't want to lynch BH eod? My mistake, I'd forgotten about the BH claim when I was going through the filter. HF's filter seemed jumpy just reading it though, even leaving BH out of the argument I was trying to connect his thought process from going from hapa to sl. I find this believable and probably evidence HtS is town. I'm gonna lay it out and say Scum is very unlikely to forget that I'm a cop Words cannot express the depth of my disbelief in your claim of being a cop. Like Lestrad didn't even do anything he was a bumbling idiot. >:{ that's not very nice! Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 03:51 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 31 2015 03:50 Blazinghand wrote:On March 31 2015 03:48 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 31 2015 03:28 Blazinghand wrote:On March 30 2015 23:45 Half the Sky wrote:On March 30 2015 23:32 justanothertownie wrote:
HTS are you seriously questioning why people didn't want to lynch BH eod? My mistake, I'd forgotten about the BH claim when I was going through the filter. HF's filter seemed jumpy just reading it though, even leaving BH out of the argument I was trying to connect his thought process from going from hapa to sl. I find this believable and probably evidence HtS is town. I'm gonna lay it out and say Scum is very unlikely to forget that I'm a cop Words cannot express the depth of my disbelief in your claim of being a cop. you really think I fakeclaimed a role with 2 counterparts? what kind of insane player would do that? ...hmm, actually that IS the kind of thing I'd do as scum. Then I'd laugh at all the newbs in post game for believing me. gah Nah I'm currently in the camp that you're telling the truth but that your role doesn't actually function as a cop - it's just convenient that your name says "Detective" at the beginning. ok but I'm literally a detective, 2 people will get my result, and I'll get their results and be able to post them at the start of D2 so I don't see the problem. not sure what parts of my role an RB would block, now that I tihnk about it. I definitely still will make an investigation I Think since I'm compulsive Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 03:57 Alakaslam wrote:
I was BH's defender
I now call for Vig on him. The destiny bond stuff is over, I have said this but ppl don't read.
It was one cycle oh come on let me get one check in!!! though i'd rather get shot than lynched for epeen reasons
Kira case 2good
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Anyways, moving on to BH's case.
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Blazinghand
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via PM, WoS promised me he'll read my case eventually, but he can't right now. if I die I still expect him to keep the promise
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On March 31 2015 05:37 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 05:33 Blazinghand wrote:
so to be clear, Crossfire votes to elect HF while HF is pushing SL, and crossfire has a townread on SL, so he wouldn't try to elect someone who had a scumread on his townread. is that what you're saying?
No he doesn't have a townread, but he's dissuading the lynch whereas he was pushing others (Hapa) more strongly. The expectation that he set for himself: Show nested quote +On March 28 2015 08:07 Crossfire99 wrote:
I'm probably just going to vote for the person who wants to lynch someone who I think is scum. I don't think we need to get any more complicated than that. Obviously, people will need to say who they want to lynch so we can do that. So we basically just play mafia. In essence, it was incongruent with what he said at the beginning. I can understand if his read develops or changes on an individual person or something but this isn't the case.
So if hapa flips mafia like people tend to assume he was pushing off of sl onto mafia. (regardless from town to town if hapa is town) so i don't think you should read into that.
He also said he'd vote for towniest person somewhere earlier so i don't see a problem.
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Oh nooooeeeessss
When I die, kill yamato mabes?
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On March 31 2015 05:41 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 05:37 Half the Sky wrote:On March 31 2015 05:33 Blazinghand wrote:
so to be clear, Crossfire votes to elect HF while HF is pushing SL, and crossfire has a townread on SL, so he wouldn't try to elect someone who had a scumread on his townread. is that what you're saying?
No he doesn't have a townread, but he's dissuading the lynch whereas he was pushing others (Hapa) more strongly. The expectation that he set for himself: On March 28 2015 08:07 Crossfire99 wrote:
I'm probably just going to vote for the person who wants to lynch someone who I think is scum. I don't think we need to get any more complicated than that. Obviously, people will need to say who they want to lynch so we can do that. So we basically just play mafia. In essence, it was incongruent with what he said at the beginning. I can understand if his read develops or changes on an individual person or something but this isn't the case. So if hapa flips mafia like people tend to assume he was pushing off of sl onto mafia. (regardless from town to town if hapa is town) so i don't think you should read into that. He also said he'd vote for towniest person somewhere earlier so i don't see a problem.
You don't see a problem because he voted for you.
Hapa is also probably not mafia.
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Fuck I don't even know
Wish I weren't on my phone.
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