EPTjjb missed this too i don't really know why it's so missable
he's seriously saying "i want to lynch ace but he may very well have a valid excuse for everything that bothers me about him. tbd is my biggest scum read though."
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
jjb missed this too i don't really know why it's so missable he's seriously saying "i want to lynch ace but he may very well have a valid excuse for everything that bothers me about him. tbd is my biggest scum read though." | ||
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
TheBloodyDwarf (2): Soren333, Breshke (1): Onegu The Shining (1): plotspot Bourneq (0): plotspot (3): prplhz (0): Not voting (7): jarjarbinks, TheBloodyDwarf, Tubesock, The Shining, Bourneq, Stutters695, Half the Sky Currently, plotspot is set to be lynched. Deadline is Saturday, Apr 11 8:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). Voting is mandatory! If there are errors, please let us know. + Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] + VOTE: prplhz voted Bourneq (post) VOTE: plotspot voted Ace1312 (The Shining) (post) VOTE: TheBloodyDwarf voted prplhz (post) VOTE: Onegu voted Plotspot (plotspot) (post) VOTE: Onegu unvoted plotspot (post) VOTE: Soren333 voted TheBloodyDwarf (post) VOTE: Breshke voted TheBloodyDwarf (post) VOTE: Tubesock voted TheBloodyDwarf (post) VOTE: Ace1312 voted TheBloodyDwarf (post) VOTE: TheBloodyDwarf unvoted prplhz (post) ERROR: Soren333 tried to change vote without unvote (post) ERROR: Soren333 tried to change vote without unvote (post) VOTE: Onegu voted Breshke (post) VOTE: Tubesock unvoted TheBloodyDwarf (post) ERROR: prplhz tried to change vote without unvote (post) VOTE: Breshke unvoted TheBloodyDwarf (post) VOTE: Breshke voted plotspot (post) VOTE: rsoultin voted plotspot (post) VOTE: prplhz unvoted Bourneq (post) VOTE: prplhz voted plotspot (post) | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On April 11 2015 16:31 prplhz wrote: jjb missed this too i don't really know why it's so missable he's seriously saying "i want to lynch ace but he may very well have a valid excuse for everything that bothers me about him. tbd is my biggest scum read though." youre right :/ not sure why i thought that was in response to stutters that makes no sense nh lol im tired >< ill figure out what i got mixed up in the morning hate phone posting ciao! | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
I'm really confused on TheBloodyDwarf. He hasn't done a single towny thing yet. He's blatantly ignoring requests for any type of read and isn't helping town at all. I mean it's so anti-town that mafia would at least try to fake something. He's not even doing that. He like doesn't care at all, he's trying to act as scummy as possible it seems. He made some posts which made me unvote him. At that time I was thinking he was basically softclaiming Vet. I didn't want to pursue anything and I think others were thinking the same thing. It would obviously defeat the purpose of him being vet. While at work i was thinking about him a lot. It just bugged me. A vet would play towny right? The entire point is to make MAFIA shoot you. But then you also have to avoid being lynched. And he's obviously not doing that. Then my tinfoil hat deflected an alien interrogation beam. TheBloodyDwarf is Godfather. BloodyDwarf comes from SC2 mafia arcade. So it's safe to say he plays SC2. He presumeably found TL mafia from the SC2 forums. He's not dumb, he's probably the more hardcore gamer type. TL Mafia does seem like the harder core version of many versions of mafia I think. So, he's fucking smart. He's not playing poorly at all. If he is Godfather, he KNOWS the setup. He knows if there is a cop/doc/vigi/vet. The OP says mafia knows. Reread his filter, doesn't it look like he's trying to make people think he's vet? "Don't shoot me" "I hope cop/vigi are guud". Yeah, he wants to make it look like he doesn't really know the setup but is telling the cop to check him so he returns town. He then knows who the cop is and mafia get to kill him. And he is basically confirmed town who gets to live at least another day. He softs vet knowing people probably won't push him since an outed vet is sooo bad for town. He then doesn't have to act towny. But in order to get cop checked he has to act really scummy so that the cop will check him over other question marks. Holy shit this is an amazing play. My tinfoils may sound crazy and stupid but holy shit in the 3 games I've finished I nailed at least 2 scum each time. Both were the strong mafia guys (Holyflare and Geript from Carol and Joat). What other scenario explains how TheBloodyDwarf is playing? The more I think about this the more I believe. Where are the holes in my thinking? | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
It fucking worked. People are talking about other stuff and there is ZERO direction. Exactly what mafia wants. For sweet justice ##Vote: TheBloodyDwarf | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
other than that i think tbd is looking townie enough. his weird d1 and low content posting is very easily explained by that's how much people from sc2 arcade mafia plays, d1 is about saying "hi" and analysis isn't really a thing. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
Another possible softing to cop check: On April 10 2015 06:17 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Everybody has little scum inside them. And another: On April 10 2015 06:23 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I dont want to tell you my dirty secrets  This is more interesting. And really instigated my tinfoil. And what I REALLY need feedback on due to my overthinking at times. On April 10 2015 06:25 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I hope our cop or vigi is guud. I don't want to die :| He leaves out doc and vet. This seems to me to be the soft claim. It's retarded I know, but I think the spelling "guud" is absolutely intentional. And: Maybe overthinking, but damn..."mindgames", "guud". Like it's in the weird obvious but not obvious realm. I think he's mindfucking us. He's goddamn Godfather. On April 10 2015 16:15 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: + Show Spoiler + Looks like I have to bit explain myself. After reading this I think my posts make more sense. This is not sc2 arcade mafia. I thought day 1 is just day for chat. Nothing happens before somebody brings evidency to table. Also I didnt know its insta lynch who gets most votes. So pretty much my day1 posts mean nothing. I felt like everybody is chatting (felt for me) and then suddenly Soren333 starts replying to those chatty posts. I thought it looked really funny and he even asked questions that I answered later but before he asked again. Also I didnt know that scum means mafia. I realized scum means mafia way way later. "Everybody has little scum inside them" Isn't that just like some IRC chat? like talking to friends? Nobody trying to be serious kind of answer. Why I voted somebody? Looks like you have to vote everyday or you get kicked out of the game. (again this is not sc2 mafia..). I just voted fearing maybe I forget or don't have time to vote and admins kick me out. Why fear of death some ask? Well, I want to play this game and not to die? "I hope our cop or vigi is good". Again, I was expecting cop to give some "evidence" to table and then people discuss is that person trustful and can his claims even be possible. But that's all wrong. Looks like you make your presumption based on chat. With feels quite weird to me now but I am noob playing this mafia for the first time and some here are experts. So I have to see how this works out. So I think I have time to rethink who to vote so, ##UNVOTE Like he really really wants that cop check to bring his "evidence" to the table. Like holy shit. Plus, he has done absolutely ZERO scumhunting. He's overtly and covertly trying to get the cop check. That's his entire goal so far. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 11 2015 18:27 prplhz wrote: i really don't think mafia godfather would risk getting lynched. just having him alive means we can't trust green checks and that's not worth the risk giving up just so he can be in LYLO. other than that i think tbd is looking townie enough. his weird d1 and low content posting is very easily explained by that's how much people from sc2 arcade mafia plays, d1 is about saying "hi" and analysis isn't really a thing. I need this. Like it seems like such a baller play to me. It's risky as fuck right? But I can't seem to think it is actually that risky. The more I'm thinking about it, the more I'm convincing myself. Bad I know! Ugh. What's he doing that is townie? Or you saying he's just not scummy because he's playing like arcade? | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
what does he gain from getting checked? pretty much nothing. i agree he's done very little analysis but that's really the norm for sc2 arcade mafia players. they don't bust out mad analysis on d1 of their first game. so i'm reading him on other things such as how he defended himself. it was more of a "fuck off" than actually trying not to get lynched. i think his behavior today has been entirely consistent with what i'm expecting from sc2 arcade players. anyway, explain to me, what does he gain from getting checked? | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
In my first newbie game we had a mafia guy be so afraid of posting he had to get replaced. There are other people in many games that are either too afraid of posting, can't post or don't want to post that I think this is a viable alternative to trying to blend in and be town. pretend you're scared first time mafia. You ahve a choice. 1. Blend in, be town and post lots. 2. Overtly act scummy, so scummy that it's too scummy to be scummy and hopefully you get the cop check and become confirmed town. It requires work, but at least he would live a couple more days and can be useful if not for a little while. Longer than paralyzed in fear anyway. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 11 2015 18:45 prplhz wrote: okay, being weird and aloof gets you lynched. that's bad for mafia (to get lynched). what does he gain from getting checked? pretty much nothing. i agree he's done very little analysis but that's really the norm for sc2 arcade mafia players. they don't bust out mad analysis on d1 of their first game. so i'm reading him on other things such as how he defended himself. it was more of a "fuck off" than actually trying not to get lynched. i think his behavior today has been entirely consistent with what i'm expecting from sc2 arcade players. anyway, explain to me, what does he gain from getting checked? I think at the very least another day of life while town talks about it. He can get support from some of his mafiamates and survive longer. Once he is checked he at least outs the cop and mafia doesn't have to worry about the other 2 teammates being checked. His goal is to be first checked. Then hopefully if he's on the chopping block then the cop says "oh hey, I have a green check" on him and then we argue and argue. Even if we still lynch him disregarding the check, now mafia kills the cop and don't have to worry about getting red checked. That's hugely beneficial to them. Right? | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
anyway, COP SHOULDN'T OUT HIMSELF TO GIVE A GREEN CHECK. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 11 2015 18:53 prplhz wrote: this is super debatable but what isn't debatable is that sc2 arcade mafia players in a newbie game would never do this. anyway, COP SHOULDN'T OUT HIMSELF TO GIVE A GREEN CHECK. I've never played arcade mafia. Why wouldn't they ever do it? It would be pretty stupid to out himself to save a green check from lynch. Hmm. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On April 11 2015 18:53 prplhz wrote: this is super debatable but what isn't debatable is that sc2 arcade mafia players in a newbie game would never do this. anyway, COP SHOULDN'T OUT HIMSELF TO GIVE A GREEN CHECK. same even if he has a redcheack and there is more than one misslynch left imo | ||
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And its pretty much bad luck if you get killed. Doc can heal, Vet blocks, some roles cannot die during nights.
