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Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:07 GMT
#461
On April 10 2015 09:55 Bourneq wrote:
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On April 10 2015 09:48 Half the Sky wrote:
On April 10 2015 09:40 Bourneq wrote:
Whats with the scumread on me? And prplhz is trying to lynch me so why do you think we are both scum?


Before I AFKed, I didn't like your paralysis. I know you are extremely new to mafia (and I took this into account) so I tried to work with you on why you didn't think prp's comment drew no emotion. The "forum context" response I could not tell whether it was sarcasm or intentional evasion so I further questioned you and I get this:

On April 10 2015 06:33 Bourneq wrote:
It did not make me think anything. Now that you ask it seems he is at least trying to start a discussion.


The problem I have with this is you are telling me what he is doing and not so much how it makes you feel as far his alignment is concerned. I realise maybe I'm hard to understand at times - not a native speaker here either - so I'm trying to spell things out as much as I can.

Bussing has been a thing in D1 amongst scumteams lately. It's possible you both are scum.

Well to explain the "paralysis" like I said I was in the middle of a movie at the time and just posted to say hi. I was going to wait to delve deeper into the game for an hour to finnish the movie. I geniunly did not understand what you meant by "tone" but I realise now it was obviously not the tone of his voice. That did make me look pretty stupid I agree but I dont understand why that makes me mafia. The tone of "I could be mafia and I could not be, any thoughts?" too me is: Hello im mafia wanting to blend in. But since I am so new at this I am scared to draw conclusions and I udnerstand why that could look suspicious.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh so now you start to talk about the tone. Why did it take two thousand posts before you spoke up?

Too scared to draw conclusions? Only mafias have to be scared and/or careful with what they post in the game.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:09 GMT
#462
On April 10 2015 10:07 Onegu wrote:
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On April 10 2015 09:31 prplhz wrote:
On April 10 2015 09:28 Half the Sky wrote:
On April 10 2015 08:12 Onegu wrote:
My point was he made the post to clairfy before you made that post. He votes talks about something then clairifies why he voted ace. Then you asked him the question.


I like this observation from Onegu, and his filter in general so far. His claiming VT is something he routinely does as town. Townlean (and partially based on meta).

1 the observation was incorrect
2 he just claimed town in mini mafia xxx and he was scum



I claimed VT there and here only claimed town as far as you know, big difference until I do it as mafia also...


Regardless, claiming town offers nothing at all.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:10 GMT
#463
On April 10 2015 10:11 Breshke wrote:
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On April 10 2015 10:10 Onegu wrote:
And I stopped claiming VT now I'm just claiming town. Completely different people comeon


How do we know you don't always claim town as mafia if this is a new thing

I like the act of pushing. But this actual push is bad.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:13 GMT
#464
On April 10 2015 10:18 Onegu wrote:
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On April 10 2015 10:13 rsoultin wrote:
On April 10 2015 10:10 Onegu wrote:
And I stopped claiming VT now I'm just claiming town. Completely different people comeon


xP

my point is more interesting than this

y so serious, onegu?



Ok from now on I'm going to put + Show Spoiler +
sarcasm
when it sarcasm...

What the fuck.

So you're saying that your post was sarcasm?

What the bloody fuck
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:18 GMT
#465
On April 10 2015 12:59 Tubesock wrote:
Anyone still around?

Breshke and Soren are my town reads so far.

BloodyDwarf still scummy till he produces. He is boarderline too scummy to be scum but most his posts make me itch. And not in the good way.

##Vote:TheBloodyDwarf

Plotspot I'm trying to read but I just don't understand a couple of his posts. Like several other people I'm wondering how he towned Prplhz so fast. I could be twitchy too since it seems in many games the mafia like to insult to convey passion or whatever (Plot calling Onegu a fucktard).

What's the town read on bresh?
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 10 2015 11:18 GMT
#466
yes it was just a joke

hts reads him town based on some complete nonsense and then he makes a joke about how she should not have read him town based on that nonsense but based on some other complete nonsense "don't read me town because i claim VT, read me town because i claim town"
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 10 2015 11:24 GMT
#467
soren333 what do you think about jarjarbinks defense of bloodydwarf? i think it was pretty good.

On April 10 2015 15:24 jarjarbinks wrote:
[...]1. He kept getting more and more defensive and not looking logical
2. He didn't early vote someone (right?) thinking that it isn't a big deal.
3. He didn't read the rules or something, which makes me think he is liable to focus on people scumming him because he doesn't really grasp what he is supposed to be doing.
4. Look how much attention dwarf got.
[...]


especially 1
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:25 GMT
#468
On April 10 2015 14:49 jarjarbinks wrote:
Initial reads based on first readthrough.

My limited gameplay tells me to make sure we don't forget about Ace. There always seems to be a lurker on the mafia team. That being given you could throw me in that category too. He provided enough information to provide information, but did he say that much intuitive?

My sister's good at this game so don't town her too fast. Limited prodding at first. Could be because she wasn't around to prod early game though lol

Sorren's prodded the most and gotten the most cred for it so it seems.

HTS has been in here off an on and seems like she's pretty active and making reads. Her reads kind of align with vet skill at the time though, at least her town reads.

Dwarf was hilarious. He probably should go like read the rules or something lolz Defense against sorren to me looked like he was butthurt, but not alignment indicative imo. He needs to defend himself though.

More in depth analysis tomorrow after work. Should give you guys plenty of time to see if any of your reads match up with what I come up with tomorrow.

Quick go over of plot (bothered me the most but was confusing). Post thoughts in a sec.


Your sister?
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 10 2015 11:27 GMT
#469
rso is jarjar's sister
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 10 2015 11:28 GMT
#470
i don't know how you missed that because rso has pointed it out a couple times already
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:38 GMT
#471
On April 10 2015 16:15 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Looks like I have to bit explain myself. After reading this I think my posts make more sense.


This is not sc2 arcade mafia.

I thought day 1 is just day for chat. Nothing happens before somebody brings evidency to table. Also I didnt know its insta lynch who gets most votes. So pretty much my day1 posts mean nothing. I felt like everybody is chatting (felt for me) and then suddenly Soren333 starts replying to those chatty posts. I thought it looked really funny and he even asked questions that I answered later but before he asked again.

Also I didnt know that scum means mafia. I realized scum means mafia way way later. "Everybody has little scum inside them" Isn't that just like some IRC chat? like talking to friends? Nobody trying to be serious kind of answer.

Why I voted somebody? Looks like you have to vote everyday or you get kicked out of the game. (again this is not sc2 mafia..). I just voted fearing maybe I forget or don't have time to vote and admins kick me out.

Why fear of death some ask? Well, I want to play this game and not to die? "I hope our cop or vigi is good". Again, I was expecting cop to give some "evidence" to table and then people discuss is that person trustful and can his claims even be possible.

But that's all wrong. Looks like you make your presumption based on chat. With feels quite weird to me now but I am noob playing this mafia for the first time and some here are experts. So I have to see how this works out.

So I think I have time to rethink who to vote so,
##UNVOTE


Acceptable. So my entire read on you is null now. Great.

You still had poor reactions, I'll remember that.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:43 GMT
#472
On April 10 2015 20:24 prplhz wrote:
soren333 what do you think about jarjarbinks defense of bloodydwarf? i think it was pretty good.

Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 15:24 jarjarbinks wrote:
[...]1. He kept getting more and more defensive and not looking logical
2. He didn't early vote someone (right?) thinking that it isn't a big deal.
3. He didn't read the rules or something, which makes me think he is liable to focus on people scumming him because he doesn't really grasp what he is supposed to be doing.
4. Look how much attention dwarf got.
[...]


especially 1

1. Saying that someone loses a logical standpoint more and more seems to come from scum than townie because scum obviously clammed up and lost his shit. However, considering that dwarf came into the game without reading the op and was under the influence of sc2 arcade mafia, this is understandable.

2. I think he did vote.

3. Makes sense.

4. He got attention, but I don't see how this is a reason to town read him.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:44 GMT
#473
All in all, jarjarbrinks offered a refreshing outlook on the dwarf read.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:45 GMT
#474
On April 10 2015 08:49 Soren333 wrote:
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On April 10 2015 08:41 plotspot wrote:
prplhz is 100% town. I can smell it.^^

100% town?

The only way anyone right now that can be 100% certain that someone is town is if they are mafia.


Time to change my vote.

##Vote plotspot
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 10 2015 11:45 GMT
#475
i can support a plotspot lynch but i'd rather lynch bourneq
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:48 GMT
#476
On April 10 2015 20:45 prplhz wrote:
i can support a plotspot lynch but i'd rather lynch bourneq

What's your scum read on him?
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 10 2015 11:49 GMT
#477
On April 10 2015 20:07 Soren333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 09:55 Bourneq wrote:
On April 10 2015 09:48 Half the Sky wrote:
On April 10 2015 09:40 Bourneq wrote:
Whats with the scumread on me? And prplhz is trying to lynch me so why do you think we are both scum?


Before I AFKed, I didn't like your paralysis. I know you are extremely new to mafia (and I took this into account) so I tried to work with you on why you didn't think prp's comment drew no emotion. The "forum context" response I could not tell whether it was sarcasm or intentional evasion so I further questioned you and I get this:

On April 10 2015 06:33 Bourneq wrote:
It did not make me think anything. Now that you ask it seems he is at least trying to start a discussion.


The problem I have with this is you are telling me what he is doing and not so much how it makes you feel as far his alignment is concerned. I realise maybe I'm hard to understand at times - not a native speaker here either - so I'm trying to spell things out as much as I can.

Bussing has been a thing in D1 amongst scumteams lately. It's possible you both are scum.

Well to explain the "paralysis" like I said I was in the middle of a movie at the time and just posted to say hi. I was going to wait to delve deeper into the game for an hour to finnish the movie. I geniunly did not understand what you meant by "tone" but I realise now it was obviously not the tone of his voice. That did make me look pretty stupid I agree but I dont understand why that makes me mafia. The tone of "I could be mafia and I could not be, any thoughts?" too me is: Hello im mafia wanting to blend in. But since I am so new at this I am scared to draw conclusions and I udnerstand why that could look suspicious.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh so now you start to talk about the tone. Why did it take two thousand posts before you spoke up?

Too scared to draw conclusions? Only mafias have to be scared and/or careful with what they post in the game.

What are you talking about? I talked about it several times already. I would not draw a conclusion from that original comment if I was town nor mafia.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 10 2015 11:52 GMT
#478
On April 10 2015 20:48 Soren333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 20:45 prplhz wrote:
i can support a plotspot lynch but i'd rather lynch bourneq

What's your scum read on him?

read his filter and tell me one thing that makes him look either town or scum

instead he spends all the time making non-reads and only when prodded, not on his own.

scum don't want to contribute and that's exactly what he's doing, not contributing. say what you want about plotspot but there's more townie in his filter than in bourneq's filter. plotspot is at least trying. i agree that his 100% read is super weird but at least it's a read.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:53 GMT
#479
On April 10 2015 20:49 Bourneq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 20:07 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 09:55 Bourneq wrote:
On April 10 2015 09:48 Half the Sky wrote:
On April 10 2015 09:40 Bourneq wrote:
Whats with the scumread on me? And prplhz is trying to lynch me so why do you think we are both scum?


Before I AFKed, I didn't like your paralysis. I know you are extremely new to mafia (and I took this into account) so I tried to work with you on why you didn't think prp's comment drew no emotion. The "forum context" response I could not tell whether it was sarcasm or intentional evasion so I further questioned you and I get this:

On April 10 2015 06:33 Bourneq wrote:
It did not make me think anything. Now that you ask it seems he is at least trying to start a discussion.


The problem I have with this is you are telling me what he is doing and not so much how it makes you feel as far his alignment is concerned. I realise maybe I'm hard to understand at times - not a native speaker here either - so I'm trying to spell things out as much as I can.

Bussing has been a thing in D1 amongst scumteams lately. It's possible you both are scum.

Well to explain the "paralysis" like I said I was in the middle of a movie at the time and just posted to say hi. I was going to wait to delve deeper into the game for an hour to finnish the movie. I geniunly did not understand what you meant by "tone" but I realise now it was obviously not the tone of his voice. That did make me look pretty stupid I agree but I dont understand why that makes me mafia. The tone of "I could be mafia and I could not be, any thoughts?" too me is: Hello im mafia wanting to blend in. But since I am so new at this I am scared to draw conclusions and I udnerstand why that could look suspicious.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh so now you start to talk about the tone. Why did it take two thousand posts before you spoke up?

Too scared to draw conclusions? Only mafias have to be scared and/or careful with what they post in the game.

What are you talking about? I talked about it several times already. I would not draw a conclusion from that original comment if I was town nor mafia.


You could at least draw an opinion or assumption.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 10 2015 11:54 GMT
#480
On April 10 2015 20:49 Bourneq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 20:07 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 09:55 Bourneq wrote:
On April 10 2015 09:48 Half the Sky wrote:
On April 10 2015 09:40 Bourneq wrote:
Whats with the scumread on me? And prplhz is trying to lynch me so why do you think we are both scum?


Before I AFKed, I didn't like your paralysis. I know you are extremely new to mafia (and I took this into account) so I tried to work with you on why you didn't think prp's comment drew no emotion. The "forum context" response I could not tell whether it was sarcasm or intentional evasion so I further questioned you and I get this:

On April 10 2015 06:33 Bourneq wrote:
It did not make me think anything. Now that you ask it seems he is at least trying to start a discussion.


The problem I have with this is you are telling me what he is doing and not so much how it makes you feel as far his alignment is concerned. I realise maybe I'm hard to understand at times - not a native speaker here either - so I'm trying to spell things out as much as I can.

Bussing has been a thing in D1 amongst scumteams lately. It's possible you both are scum.

Well to explain the "paralysis" like I said I was in the middle of a movie at the time and just posted to say hi. I was going to wait to delve deeper into the game for an hour to finnish the movie. I geniunly did not understand what you meant by "tone" but I realise now it was obviously not the tone of his voice. That did make me look pretty stupid I agree but I dont understand why that makes me mafia. The tone of "I could be mafia and I could not be, any thoughts?" too me is: Hello im mafia wanting to blend in. But since I am so new at this I am scared to draw conclusions and I udnerstand why that could look suspicious.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh so now you start to talk about the tone. Why did it take two thousand posts before you spoke up?

Too scared to draw conclusions? Only mafias have to be scared and/or careful with what they post in the game.

What are you talking about? I talked about it several times already. I would not draw a conclusion from that original comment if I was town nor mafia.


Here more specifically and not two thousand posts later neither. You are making some really poor arguments here.

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2015 06:33 Bourneq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 06:25 Half the Sky wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:22 Bourneq wrote:
I could not hear his tone over the internet.


Okay, I think you could be taking me too literally. Let's try it this way.

When I mention "tone read" does the fact that he's asking us this question, what does it make you think of him? That's what I am trying to ask.

It did not make me think anything. Now that you ask it seems he is at least trying to start a discussion.


On April 10 2015 08:32 Bourneq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 06:24 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Bourneq

Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 06:25 prplhz wrote:
because of his non committal stance on me


The fact that you wrote a fairly pointless sentance stating nothing and then following it up with a question what we think about you not stating anything makes me belive you are either a maffia trying to blend in by drawing attention to yourself so we would think you are not maffia since that would be stupid if you did that as maffia. OR you're a town trying to get a discussion going to give us more information.
But voting for me to be lynched out of me not making any quick judgements on you seems harsh and a stupid thing to do as town.

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