Newbie Student Mafia VII - Page 37

On April 11 2015 18:57 Breshke wrote:
Also tube you have to think that if he actually is godfather then your stuff about claiming vet isnt the smartest play really because the real doc/vet would absolutly CC and then who gives a fuck if he has been green checked because he still gets lynched eventually and idk how good a 1 for 1 trade is for mafia in this setup.

On April 11 2015 18:59 Breshke wrote:


same even if he has a redcheack and there is more than one misslynch left imo

On April 11 2015 19:04 Tubesock wrote:


I guess that's why I think he's only softing. He's not really claiming, but he's flirting around about it. The way it is now the real doc/vet could out themselves (don't for the love of god) and he would just fall back on the fact he never did.

I really think he's trying to fish for that cop check. I also kind of wonder that if he did hardclaim, he gets CC'd and everyone argues enough that he tries to get checked first? Mafia would have both blues for his death. that's a pretty good trade.

I've never rolled blue. I haven't spent much time thinking about it. It's why I'm asking for feedback now. I just can't see any other explanation for his play.

On April 11 2015 19:01 prplhz wrote:
because most of what i've seen from sc2 arcade mafia players hasn't been very advanced and i consider acting scummy enough to get checked but not scummy enough to get lynched but then the day after be scummy enough to almost get lynched but still townie enough that cop would out himself to be very advanced. it seems a lot simpler for godfather to just try to be townie. in any case godfather in one of the cop setups seems to draw his worth from invalidating green checks and not from being green checked himself.

On April 11 2015 19:09 Breshke wrote:


Idk like obviously this is all possible but it just feels very very unlikely. I feel like if he was advanced enough to do this he would be advanced enough to also give reads and such and i know you said you think he is faking right? but i just feel it is really really out there.

Can you tell me what you think of plot and anyone else that has jumped out at you

On April 11 2015 19:16 prplhz wrote:
i'm not sure right now, the plotspot lynch is growing on me.

On April 10 2015 07:53 plotspot wrote:
Really now, you must be psychic to infer some sort of alignment from such a post. ROFL. You might as well be mafia seeing an opportunity to jump on him. haha

On April 10 2015 08:12 plotspot wrote:
I'm considering changing my vote to Onegu. He's playing like a fucktard. But of course I'm still not sure whether it's his strategy or him inadvertently not "getting" some of the things.

On April 11 2015 09:10 plotspot wrote:


I think the word "acceptable" is the bad boy here right? I should have written "acceptable for them, in their kind of logic, to which I can agree to a certain degree, but not nailingly sure for me". I think Dwarf is a victim because, he has to justify himself and looks helpless, but that's also because he hasn't post alot right?

On April 11 2015 07:43 plotspot wrote:


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I only said I considered switching my vote, because he made 2 strange mistakes, like wanting a voting thread or saying I didn't explain myself to prplhz when easy checking could have confirmed I did. It was very early in the game, but why am I explaining things, isn't the uncertainty what he is obvious in the quote?

On April 11 2015 19:19 prplhz wrote:
like his 100% read on me

and then





looks like feelers so he can change his vote from the alphabetical thing. why isn't he just changing his vote away from the alphabetical vote? it doesn't mean shit so if he thinks someone is mafia then why not vote him instead of prodding the thread like this?

On April 11 2015 17:46 Tubesock wrote:
So, I have this fascination with trying to read difficult/cryptic players. Players like Alakaslam, Sicklucker, Chezinu, and LightningStrike. It's dumb, but I absolutely love playing with those guys. I fall into big traps though, like finding deep meaning into statements and their word useage and once I think they are scummy I really get into confirmation bias.

I'm really confused on TheBloodyDwarf. He hasn't done a single towny thing yet. He's blatantly ignoring requests for any type of read and isn't helping town at all. I mean it's so anti-town that mafia would at least try to fake something. He's not even doing that. He like doesn't care at all, he's trying to act as scummy as possible it seems.

He made some posts which made me unvote him. At that time I was thinking he was basically softclaiming Vet. I didn't want to pursue anything and I think others were thinking the same thing. It would obviously defeat the purpose of him being vet. While at work i was thinking about him a lot. It just bugged me. A vet would play towny right? The entire point is to make MAFIA shoot you. But then you also have to avoid being lynched. And he's obviously not doing that.

Then my tinfoil hat deflected an alien interrogation beam. TheBloodyDwarf is Godfather. BloodyDwarf comes from SC2 mafia arcade. So it's safe to say he plays SC2. He presumeably found TL mafia from the SC2 forums. He's not dumb, he's probably the more hardcore gamer type. TL Mafia does seem like the harder core version of many versions of mafia I think. So, he's fucking smart. He's not playing poorly at all.

If he is Godfather, he KNOWS the setup. He knows if there is a cop/doc/vigi/vet. The OP says mafia knows. Reread his filter, doesn't it look like he's trying to make people think he's vet? "Don't shoot me" "I hope cop/vigi are guud". Yeah, he wants to make it look like he doesn't really know the setup but is telling the cop to check him so he returns town. He then knows who the cop is and mafia get to kill him. And he is basically confirmed town who gets to live at least another day.

He softs vet knowing people probably won't push him since an outed vet is sooo bad for town. He then doesn't have to act towny. But in order to get cop checked he has to act really scummy so that the cop will check him over other question marks.

Holy shit this is an amazing play. My tinfoils may sound crazy and stupid but holy shit in the 3 games I've finished I nailed at least 2 scum each time. Both were the strong mafia guys (Holyflare and Geript from Carol and Joat).

What other scenario explains how TheBloodyDwarf is playing? The more I think about this the more I believe. Where are the holes in my thinking?