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in one case i literally have no reason to townread or scumread him (tbd)
and in the other i have equal reasons for both alignments (bourneq)
at this point lynching either would be poe/policy for me?
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On April 14 2015 09:39 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 09:38 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 09:36 prplhz wrote:On April 14 2015 09:35 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 09:29 prplhz wrote:On April 14 2015 09:24 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 09:19 prplhz wrote:
i was taking great offense but i'll pause for a moment to answer your question.
it's not about giving him tons of slack, it's about him doing weird shit for no reason. seriously no player in their first game as scum thinks it's a super good idea to say stuff like "i'm mysterious" and "stop digging into that" three times. he's just screaming for attention like that. look at bourneq who is wholly unforgettable and barely doing anything. that's super scummy but people are still like "lets lynch newbies who act weird" even after the plot lynch. the dwarf lynch is as bad as the plot lynch was. the tons of slack comment was about me xP i am giving him tons of slack and trying to pull things from him lol i don't disagree with you? it's the main thing that's been keeping me from voting him up to this point, just because...such a god-awful obviously bad way to play scum >< like i'd feel like the biggest imbecile on the planet if at end of game he ends up being scum just cause he's like the poster child for scummy play this game lol i'm just confused how you have a townread on him because of the things i just said? i'm not going to say "too scummy to be scum" because that's dumb. when a guy say "i'm mysterious" in his first game then he's probably town. there. i don't think we'll get much more out of him this game and i'm not going to lynch him for that unless i end up in a situation with a bunch of people looking more townie than him and we're far from there. rso say something about bourneq there's not much to say about him? the longer he's out of the thread the more he falls -shrugs- everything else has already been said, between what hts pointed out (which you already noticed) about the ace/tbd reads lol >< i dunnae something just seemed genuine to me about his issue with emoticons/people joking i'm not adverse to lynching him, i just don't have much of an opinion on him one way or another? i could make one up for you xP if that's what you really want yea please make something up that's obviously what i really want why do you think dwarf is more likely scum than bourneq? i don't lol where do you get that from? i don't know maybe i'm wrong i just think you've been talking more about dwarf than bourneq
you may be right? tbd is more recent in my mind cause lol >< i've spoken to him more recently
we can talk about bourneq. am i missing something on him?
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On April 14 2015 09:44 Half the Sky wrote:
Lynching Dwarf would be policy for me at the moment.
Rasputin - what are your arguments in favour of Bourneq being town? Or if you said it before, can you quote it please?
huh...i don't know why i thought i said more on him...it was kinda late when i was going through all the filters again lol but he was fairly active in the thread especially compared to our other newbies and the fluff issue he had with peoples' posts seemed like a genuinely townie thing to focus on...
let me find the post in particular that read townie to me real quick
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the analysis on plotspot was actually pretty good (if wrong), and this isn't the first time he mentions "bunnying" up posts lol
On April 11 2015 02:25 Bourneq wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2015 01:40 Tubesock wrote:On April 11 2015 01:11 Bourneq wrote:
here comes my reads
Stutters is extremely suspicious too me seeing he has next to no activity in the game what so ever.
I am getting generaly good vibes from Breshke, he has been actively driving the conversation in reasonable directions judging by his filter. I dont like him calling dwarf lynchbait and still sticking with his vote however.
Onegus attitude puzzles me. Saying he is not going to tryhard and just going to try to troll and have fun makes me think; mafia wanting to look town but his other posts have not given me mafia vibes so I am unsure here.
rsoultin is annoying me with his emoticons lol. And calling people retarded is just retarded. Either tryhard mafia or not trying very hard town.
Hts looks really town too me but I thinks he is one of the veterans so she could be playing a really good mafia. I would put my money on town for now.
prpl is looking more and more scum to me. It was resonable to jump on me after my first few comments since they were weak but I have given my reasons and continuing with this crusade makes me belive he is scheming. I am certinatly the easiest target to harras given my inexperiance and poor response at the beginning of day 1.
Plotspot is screaming scum to me but I am looking forward to what he has to say when he gets back from work or whatever his excuse was.
jarjar could be mafia throwing reads about early to get in the good book but at the same time I have not seen enough from him to make any quick judgements so I would not place him in either alignment.
Ace is extremely quiet and this makes me think mafia. If not mafia then a town not contributing. Either way he is high up on lynch list for me untill he makes his voice heard.
Soren333 is looking very town too me. I like his resoning.
I like the few posts from Tubesock but would like to hear more.
I really like TBD's explenation of his behaviour but not reading the OP is really reckless and I would like fellow towns to know the rules and the pace of the game. But tbd seems as new as me at this so I will tread carefully here.
Boy that took a long time to write up. As for myself I have been playing poorly even if I was scum or town. I have already posted my excuse but at least it has given me some insight into who draws what conclusion from what I have said. Some conclusions are way more reasonable than others. I agree Breshke is town. I'm missing something with the scum for waffling bit. I am towning him for that specifically, so I'd like feedback on why that could be wrong. I'm not sure about Onegu either. But I think he's worth keeping around for a couple days as he will likely do something that will town/mafia him. Rsoultin was caught as scum a few games ago because her emoticon to words ratio was too low, so this cracks me up. Now you're scumming her for too high of a ratio. Ignoring emoticons and her use of the word "retarded" don't you think she's being more productive than most in the game? She's town. Agree on HTS. She has a few town posts, but again, I'm afraid of her. Prplhz. I'm nully town. You actually brought up some good points but it is pretty tainted with OMGUS. I do think it's weird he's so tunnelled on you. Haven't decided if that's mafia motivated or not. But my next point: Why is Plotspot SCREAMING scum to you? But you're not articulating it? Stuff like that makes Prplhz think you are scum. I liked Jarjar's posts too. I've been meaning to ask him if he's still using his algorithm (something I misslynched him for in my only game with him). Ace needs to step up. His giant posts basically said nothing but "don't kill me". He's my Dwarf alternate. He has a day to bleed town. So far I'm picking from these two. I've already spoken about the rest. "I agree Breshke is town. I'm missing something with the scum for waffling bit. I am towning him for that specifically, so I'd like feedback on why that could be wrong. " I geniunly dont know what waffling is so I would love to know that before I answer. regarding Rsoultin I have no clue about what people have done in past games, I have not taken part in any of them. Any emoticons are too me trying to "fluff and bunny up" your post so thats why I said that. I would not read into it too much I am not that naive. I am also afraid of hts. "Prplhz. I'm nully town. You actually brought up some good points but it is pretty tainted with OMGUS" Im reading OMGUS as me being defensive. It would problably have been more productive to just ignore it in hindsight but I felt it was so unjustified that I got suprised. I understand it looked weird me being a bit cagey at the start how ever but I did state before I even got into the game that I was in the middle of a movie and on my phone. Thats why I did not want to start a big ordeal and came off as just dodging attention or whatever. From reading plotspots filter a few things stand out to me.
"Since the rules states I have to vote, and I can't decide, I vote alphabetically."
"ROFL. You might as well be mafia seeing an opportunity to jump on him. haha" - trying to ridicule somebody to discredit them.
"He's playing like a fucktard."
I count 3 "^^" - bunnying his sentances
But his last post - "Guys I'm at work, tonight when I have time I will try to detail out whats needed. Still concerning Onegu, before it crosses to real life, I said he was PLAYING LIKE a fucktard (for the couple of first posts that I saw at that moment), not that he is one. And he knows it. Judging by his tone he isn't offended." Calmed me down a bit and I am really interested in what he will bring to the table.
I would of chosen another word than screaming scum but I have only liked one of his posts so far so I was at least feeling him as mafia.
i actually 100% agree with this post? xP like, i read it as prp trying to get discussion going, but prp your attempt was so blatant i don't see how you expected anyone to get a read on you from it? unless you expected a townread or something lol and saying something "to generate discussion" when it's that obvious i not alignment indicative for me (just ask trfel) so i see no problem with others feeling the same way, obviously
On April 10 2015 08:32 Bourneq wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 06:25 prplhz wrote:
because of his non committal stance on me The fact that you wrote a fairly pointless sentance stating nothing and then following it up with a question what we think about you not stating anything makes me belive you are either a maffia trying to blend in by drawing attention to yourself so we would think you are not maffia since that would be stupid if you did that as maffia. OR you're a town trying to get a discussion going to give us more information. But voting for me to be lynched out of me not making any quick judgements on you seems harsh and a stupid thing to do as town.
some of these points were clearly his misreading, for instance the omgus one, but lol i get where he's coming from on the dropped reads and you being so insistent on your bloody dwarf read xP i don't think these were bad points and i can see newbie town making them and coming to that conclusion
On April 11 2015 22:30 Bourneq wrote:On to my prplhz read. At the start he was questioning tbd a little, he even asked for tbd's reads but did not get any. Then magicaly he goes for his defence with this Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 09:09 prplhz wrote:
bloodydwarf comes in here and says some weird shit about cops saving him. that seems very poorly thought out and like it's just something his fingers wrote and then he pressed enter. doesn't seem like something scum would just say. considering that scum know the setup i imagine they'd actually be inclined not to talk about it if they can avoid it. This also bugs me Show nested quote +On April 11 2015 03:01 prplhz wrote:
dunno if you're my top townies right now but you seem alright and if you agree that's probably a good sign
maybe bloodydwarf is my top town read but i'm not sheeping him How can TBD be anybodys top town read? This just seemed really unmotivated. Changing his vote too look more in tune with the town. I dont recall seeing prpl changing his tune on hts so why this sudden change of heart? Show nested quote +On April 11 2015 02:31 prplhz wrote:
welll i'm just going to drop bourneq for now he's beginning to put in some effort so maybe he's town who knows. anyway, i'm not getting anywhere with it so i'm just going to drop it.
He then drops his crusade against me when seeing a lack of support. It looks to me like he is afraid of looking scum. Show nested quote +On April 11 2015 02:28 prplhz wrote:
OMGUS means he thinks you're calling me scum because i'm calling you scum
he's saying you have decent arguments but unfortunately he has a hard time believing them because he thinks maybe you're just calling me scum because i'm calling you scum I never called him scum before that post. So why is he fabricating a OMGUS response from me?
i guess what it comes down to for me is on the spectrum of newbies bourne was more actively in the thread and analyzing than the others? lol i'll admit i wasn't really placing my expectations that high for some of the newer players, but i didn't see how he was worse than plotspot or...yes...dwarf xP who still has practically no reads -_-
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now the biggest thing against bourne apart from the tbd/plotspot thing which i find confusing more than anything is how long he's been afk, imo
so again, if i'm missing something, will someone please enlighten me?
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On April 14 2015 10:14 prplhz wrote:
sure, same thing.
like posting "Shit." after the lynch is like "okay he cares about this, he cares that this was a mislynch" but then he didn't even show up to do anything today. seems like he posted it, not because he actually thought that this was a shitty situation town needs to get out of but because he just wanted to post some reaction. and of mislynch reactions this is a very boring one.
true? like i'm not disputing that o.0 he very clearly hasn't posted anything since EoD, which is why i'm fine with lynching him and the points weigh out even
they didn't day 1
lol am i not making sense? ><
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On April 14 2015 10:26 prplhz wrote:
saying that my third post didn't succeed in getting discussion going is silly as it's been discussed a lot this game
i fail to see how this post is relevant xP
the question was intention, not end result -flicks-
trfel made a post as scum that "got discussion going" but that didn't make him town lol ><
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we are just entirely off-topic now >< the point was those were the posts that made me lean town on bourne
unless y'all think they make him scum, i'm not sure why we're even discussing this?
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truffle i am going to skin you for making semantics arguments that serve no purpose ^^ don't you have a thread to be reading?
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lol um
i'm not sure how you arrive at the conclusion that there's no medic, bresh, unless you're saying the medic would definitely protect hf?
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On April 14 2015 11:37 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 11:27 Stutters695 wrote:On April 14 2015 11:03 Breshke wrote:On April 14 2015 10:51 Half the Sky wrote:Breshke, what are your thoughts on Stutters's latest comments? I honestly was going to case him based on his voting plotspot, and then realising he was in the thread, decided it'd be more efficient directly asking him xD On April 14 2015 10:26 Stutters695 wrote:On April 14 2015 09:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Stutters, you still in thread? I wanted to ask you two key questions regarding your actions D1.
D1, you expressed that Breshke was mafia. You considered prplhz and plotspot for lynch. You pushed Breshke in two posts, and I know you were AFK a bit from the thread D1, but ultimately voted plotspot after a load of people had done so.
I have two questions for you.
1 As a veteran, why were you so sure that plotspot was scumclaiming and not martyring? I understand some vets are familiar with martyring happening and prp has brought it up himself.
2 I know someone else queried you on it but I'm not seeing the response in your filter - had your thoughts on Breshke changed since D1? And if you were sure of Breshke, why didn't you push him further D1? 1. I wasn't. D1 is a bitch and I hate it. Once it was obvious Bresh/Prpl weren't options, I wanted to see one of the newbies hang because if one of them didn't, we'd be in the same predicament d2 and had basically wasted d1. I've played enough games where people martyr/give up as scum once caught early that I really don't know what to think anymore. 2. I've learned pushing lynches that won't happen just distracts town. Especially on d1 when we can afford a mislynch. I'd rather have a mislynch on someone I can't read, but I think is scum than someone I don't think is scum because I split a wagon, when d1 is a crapshoot anyway. They have changed due to his n1 posts, but I still want to see more out of him to decide. Considering you are the lead proponent of his lynch and (I could be wrong here?) you have yet to play with him, so... I was voting him because of some comment he made in which he basically softed power role. He seemed to ignore the question when he first came back yesterday so that made me even more intrigued but i like his recent answer and am willing to let it slide until next day phase. ##UnvoteI currently want to lynch bourne but i need to read what rso wrote about him again and also read your case on him. Also i think it is safe to infer we have a etup with a veteran and not a medic as noone has claimed roleblocked meaning scum most likely roleblocked HF which they would only do if they feared he was a vet. Or maybe a vigi but i find that less likely. Why? Who is going to prot the new guy? Roleblocks are notified. Noone has said they were roleblocked which you 100% do because theres no reason not to. This means that HF was roleblocked as he was killed. There is only a couple cases where this is useful. You must remember scum knows the setup If he is cop and gets medic saved he doesn't get a check (not likely if it is a cop medic setup scum would probs try spread out their kill and roleblock unless they were sure someone was a role. If he is vigi he dies and doesn't get his shot off. (This doesn't feel that important as even if the vigi shot htis town doesn't gain a miss lynch and there is a possibility of vigi hitting a town.) Finally if they know there is a vet they want to ensure that they dont have to put kp on him twice. While this doesn't gain town a miss lynch town gains a confirmed town for at least one phase.
ah, nvm, i am apparently having reading comprehension issues lol >< you're referring to the possible setups not containing both a doc and a vet okay ^^
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On April 14 2015 12:25 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 12:20 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 11:37 Breshke wrote:On April 14 2015 11:27 Stutters695 wrote:On April 14 2015 11:03 Breshke wrote:On April 14 2015 10:51 Half the Sky wrote:Breshke, what are your thoughts on Stutters's latest comments? I honestly was going to case him based on his voting plotspot, and then realising he was in the thread, decided it'd be more efficient directly asking him xD On April 14 2015 10:26 Stutters695 wrote:On April 14 2015 09:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Stutters, you still in thread? I wanted to ask you two key questions regarding your actions D1.
D1, you expressed that Breshke was mafia. You considered prplhz and plotspot for lynch. You pushed Breshke in two posts, and I know you were AFK a bit from the thread D1, but ultimately voted plotspot after a load of people had done so.
I have two questions for you.
1 As a veteran, why were you so sure that plotspot was scumclaiming and not martyring? I understand some vets are familiar with martyring happening and prp has brought it up himself.
2 I know someone else queried you on it but I'm not seeing the response in your filter - had your thoughts on Breshke changed since D1? And if you were sure of Breshke, why didn't you push him further D1? 1. I wasn't. D1 is a bitch and I hate it. Once it was obvious Bresh/Prpl weren't options, I wanted to see one of the newbies hang because if one of them didn't, we'd be in the same predicament d2 and had basically wasted d1. I've played enough games where people martyr/give up as scum once caught early that I really don't know what to think anymore. 2. I've learned pushing lynches that won't happen just distracts town. Especially on d1 when we can afford a mislynch. I'd rather have a mislynch on someone I can't read, but I think is scum than someone I don't think is scum because I split a wagon, when d1 is a crapshoot anyway. They have changed due to his n1 posts, but I still want to see more out of him to decide. Considering you are the lead proponent of his lynch and (I could be wrong here?) you have yet to play with him, so... I was voting him because of some comment he made in which he basically softed power role. He seemed to ignore the question when he first came back yesterday so that made me even more intrigued but i like his recent answer and am willing to let it slide until next day phase. ##UnvoteI currently want to lynch bourne but i need to read what rso wrote about him again and also read your case on him. Also i think it is safe to infer we have a etup with a veteran and not a medic as noone has claimed roleblocked meaning scum most likely roleblocked HF which they would only do if they feared he was a vet. Or maybe a vigi but i find that less likely. Why? Who is going to prot the new guy? Roleblocks are notified. Noone has said they were roleblocked which you 100% do because theres no reason not to. This means that HF was roleblocked as he was killed. There is only a couple cases where this is useful. You must remember scum knows the setup If he is cop and gets medic saved he doesn't get a check (not likely if it is a cop medic setup scum would probs try spread out their kill and roleblock unless they were sure someone was a role. If he is vigi he dies and doesn't get his shot off. (This doesn't feel that important as even if the vigi shot htis town doesn't gain a miss lynch and there is a possibility of vigi hitting a town.) Finally if they know there is a vet they want to ensure that they dont have to put kp on him twice. While this doesn't gain town a miss lynch town gains a confirmed town for at least one phase. ah, nvm, i am apparently having reading comprehension issues lol >< you're referring to the possible setups not containing both a doc and a vet okay ^^ There is no setup with both doc and vet? Idk if im misreading what you mean but there is 1 of vigi/cop and one of vet/medic Im saying because of mafias roleblock im like 85% sure we have a vet. I could go further and say there is probably a vigi aswell but that logic comes down to personal preference and how much they thought HF would be a threat.
ummm
yes that is exactly what i just said xP
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wait now i think i'm confused again -_-
you were trying to say that the lack of an rb claim is indicative of a vet and if there's a vet there isn't a vet/doc setup in the op, right?
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lol >< i've been waiting for bresh to post on bourne but eh
so i know i said earlier that shining seemed okay, but he's like...disappeared, too, but unlike bourneq no one seems to have mentioned it?
On April 13 2015 01:49 The Shining wrote:
RSo, my slot's vote was made by Ace, not myself. I even questioned my own wasted vote until I realized it wasn't me lmao.
Just woke up and found out I don't work today =D so I'll be in and out of here all day. I'll have comments on EoD soon.
not really sure what happened between these two posts, but this is all he's posted today lol ><
and obviously it was pretty worthless
On April 14 2015 01:28 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 01:14 Trfel wrote:
Onegu
Onegu's opening is just terrible. I'm pretty sure that he is scum here. Plotspot was obviously a new player trying to figure out how to play the game, if anything I would read plotspot's opening posts as slightly towny. And Onegu was so quick to jump on scumreading him.
I'd definitely prefer to lynch Onegu than this weird lynch on Half the Sky for just changing her vote.
One scum down, two to go. Ok I'm back in thread. Bro am I high or did you just claim scum?? Didn't you replace Onegu? O_O
it's a pretty far cry from how he eagerly approached the thread in the beginning, and i can't help but wonder if it's a coincidence that he fell off as soon as i gave him that initial townread lol ><
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On April 14 2015 13:10 Trfel wrote:
I agree that The Shining/Ace1312's slot doesn't look very good, but that's mostly for activity. I'm ignoring it for now.
At the same time, I almost wonder if he could have an easier time jumping into the thread if he is scum? Scum replacements don't really have to read the thread, they can sort of make stuff up and hope to get by. Especially in a newbie game. Obviously that isn't a very effective way to play, but many people claim to play scum without reading the thread.
lol >< true
i know i don't cause i'd get caught in a new york minute but lol he replaced in before EoD though so i mean, at some point that excuse stops being valid
i brought it up less because of the afk bit and more because while bourne is being discussed, shining isn't, which i find odd. plus lol you can't really argue that his post today was...i mean, what's even the point of posting?
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On April 14 2015 01:32 rsoultin wrote:
or the truth made to look like a joke o.0
-eyes truffle-
more seriously, y'all both owe me reads xP -cracks whip-
also it's not like people ignored him when he entered so i'm not sure why he just came in to post that and then disappeared again
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On April 14 2015 13:17 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 13:10 Trfel wrote:
I agree that The Shining/Ace1312's slot doesn't look very good, but that's mostly for activity. I'm ignoring it for now.
At the same time, I almost wonder if he could have an easier time jumping into the thread if he is scum? Scum replacements don't really have to read the thread, they can sort of make stuff up and hope to get by. Especially in a newbie game. Obviously that isn't a very effective way to play, but many people claim to play scum without reading the thread. I don't think I agree with this at all. People are asking you stuff since you're here. If he showed up people will be asking him stuff too. In my 2nd game a newbie (I don't remember the name of it, but you were nightkilled N1 trfel in it) There was a replacement scum Scott1313371234123541235 for Gumdrops. Gum made 2 posts and was replaced. Scott's entrance was a thread sentiment list post with nice little links to the post for each player that expressed his read. He HAD to show us he read the thread and was eventually caught up. He would have died right then. Same with you, you HAVE to show you've read town or mafia. Like, you get leeway but not a pardon.
xP
that doesn't tell me what you think about shining
lol and whether you agree or not, some players don't read the thread as scum, or at least claim they don't. whether it's good play or not doesn't really matter? unless this argument has any bearing on shining's alignment i don't see why we're discussing it again -_-
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On April 14 2015 13:19 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 13:15 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 13:10 Trfel wrote:
I agree that The Shining/Ace1312's slot doesn't look very good, but that's mostly for activity. I'm ignoring it for now.
At the same time, I almost wonder if he could have an easier time jumping into the thread if he is scum? Scum replacements don't really have to read the thread, they can sort of make stuff up and hope to get by. Especially in a newbie game. Obviously that isn't a very effective way to play, but many people claim to play scum without reading the thread. lol >< true i know i don't cause i'd get caught in a new york minute but lol he replaced in before EoD though so i mean, at some point that excuse stops being valid i brought it up less because of the afk bit and more because while bourne is being discussed, shining isn't, which i find odd. plus lol you can't really argue that his post today was...i mean, what's even the point of posting? I'm queasy on Prplhz right now. Do you really think that he can't act like he is this game as scum?
lol tbh i've seen him play scum once, so if he was just exceptionally bad that game my opinion is completely skewed, however he looks townie separate of the meta, too. i've already mentioned how he took the lead on the thread, his questions were pointed, his reads have been fluid throughout the game...
like i see the arguments but i don't see why they make him scum? so he decided not to lynch plot for acting "weird" and he's always maintained that he doesn't want to lynch dwarf for acting weird...at least he's consistent?
what's making you queasy?
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On April 14 2015 13:23 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 13:17 Tubesock wrote:On April 14 2015 13:10 Trfel wrote:
I agree that The Shining/Ace1312's slot doesn't look very good, but that's mostly for activity. I'm ignoring it for now.
At the same time, I almost wonder if he could have an easier time jumping into the thread if he is scum? Scum replacements don't really have to read the thread, they can sort of make stuff up and hope to get by. Especially in a newbie game. Obviously that isn't a very effective way to play, but many people claim to play scum without reading the thread. I don't think I agree with this at all. People are asking you stuff since you're here. If he showed up people will be asking him stuff too. In my 2nd game a newbie (I don't remember the name of it, but you were nightkilled N1 trfel in it) There was a replacement scum Scott1313371234123541235 for Gumdrops. Gum made 2 posts and was replaced. Scott's entrance was a thread sentiment list post with nice little links to the post for each player that expressed his read. He HAD to show us he read the thread and was eventually caught up. He would have died right then. Same with you, you HAVE to show you've read town or mafia. Like, you get leeway but not a pardon. I mean, everyone makes errors. And no one can remember every detail, most players forget most of the details. My point is that, you know who scum is, and you have scum teammates in the scum QT who can help you. They can tell you the thread sentiment, who the main town players are, who they are currently pushing, etc. Like, I imagine that they could basically tell you where your reads should be at the start of the game with basic reasons for each one, and then that could be posted without having carefully read the thread at all. Clearly he can't admit to not have read the thread (or tried to) here, but I do think he could fake it (this doesn't work if someone analyzes him really well, but good analysis is hard to do). A town replacement is under pressure to produce content just as much as a scum replacement is. The Shining's inactivity is definitely scummy, but I would still expect the scum team to give him some kind of ground to stand on (unless they're giving him up for dead, or they aren't very competent, or my analysis of how scum teams should work is completely wrong).
considering he made some preliminary reads i think you're just not aware of the context at this point xP do i need to shoo you back to reading the thread again? (or asking your scum qt mates, as the case may be? lolol)
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5pm your time pretty sure jjb
question for when you get back:
why is hts so low given your assessment of her? lol
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