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On March 30 2015 06:55 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 06:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 30 2015 06:36 Breshke wrote:
Art what do you think is the most likely scumteam imagining I have flipped town? Some team involving Onegu/Superbia/FF/Ritoky and maybe I need to add Damdred to the list too which would pain my heart. Some exceptions due to combos that don't make sense which I explained before. See I really don't think onegu is scum. I never really considered his play early but I find it so hard to see it coming from a mafia perspective. Especially with the HF kill N1. I am in a similar position with superbia because at least twice it feels like we have been pushing the same agenda. A lot of people find it scummy that he didn't push his own lynch over Hf's BM wagon but i can understand it because I was in the same position. Deadline is approaching and people are still trying to lynch the vigis and you think the plan where you don't lynch the vigis is the better one so you just get on the wagon of someone you are reading town who is pushing for the lynch of someone that you have no clue about. I felt superbia was in the same mindset i was.Ritoky and FF I can both see as mafia. FF has jsut been doing a bunch of one liners recently and if it isn't a one liner its a post that ends in no conclusion or with a IDK. With ritoky I don't like that he said my vote switches were scummy never mentioned it again even when i asked about it in more detail yet then brought it up again when you started talking about it. I can't explain this much more but it feels lie he is leaving his options open. Damdred being the last person in this scumteam is really hard for me to see. I get that he has dropped off today but his big analysis posts have been really good and show an obvious thoughtfulness about the game. The only thing that I think makes damdred look bad is the fact that ritoky seems to be wanting to lynch onegu to clear damdred even though damdred is apparently the one he has a really good read on and not onegu. So this is where I am at. I cant really pick a team of three at this point but I am probably more sure on FF than I am on ritoky so I think he should be the lynch for today.
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Im not posting that because i was right im posting that because
On March 30 2015 08:09 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 08:08 Breshke wrote:On March 30 2015 08:08 Vivax wrote:
Bresh pretty much with no opinion at all on super. are you serious Yea I am. Your last post on him starts with "he's scummy cause...xxx" and ends with "but he could be town getting the PoE" wrong.
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On March 30 2015 08:17 Vivax wrote:
It doesn't matter bresh. You only post when it's necessary in this game being the most low profile poster so far, except for maybe Onegu but Onegu has a good excuse with his fakeclaim which attracts a lot of attention to him, whereas you play the standard scum who only posts when he thinks it's necessary. You were in my blind spot most of the time and that's usually where I look for mafia at later stages.
It does mater because im showing you i did take a stance on super.
Yeah my posting has been shit but show me posts from FF bar D1 where it shows him trying to help the game move forward.
You are going back to sounding sure on me as scum again yet when people started switching to me you started to act all nervous. I have no idea wtf you are doing.
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On March 30 2015 08:24 Damdred wrote:
Breshke are you blue?
Damdred what is this question. If i was blue i would have probably claimed when i was getting switched onto.
So no
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On March 30 2015 08:34 Damdred wrote:
Every one has claimed a role or claimed vt. Besides me anyway
Are you trying to say you are a role?
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SL do you have any opinions on this game
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Damdred are you still around?
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Where are you at now? Is your team Me/FF/Ritoky
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On March 30 2015 11:24 Damdred wrote:
I'm not going to look for a pie team I think tommorow is mylo and going to treat everyone as a suspect at this point.
i dont think it is mylo.
6 - 3 after the nk
then 5 - 3 after ml
then 4 - 3 after second nk
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I dont see in anyway how onegu played that was antitown especially if he didnt realise the orb would dissapear.
If anything he made the only play that made sense last phase if he did indeed get the RB ability because outing with it would not have helped town at all.
Note that if onegu was scum he could have infact got the allighnment check ability but this is not something ritoky even considers he just accepts it as fact that onegu is telling the truth and did RB him. If ritoky was town i believe he would be more skeptical of his scumspect.
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Also damdred why do you want to now lynch ritoky wheb all yesterday you were gunning for me now vivax wants to lynch me and you dont even interact with him about it. Whats changed?
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If he had claimed it yesterday what woyld have town done.with that imformation.
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On March 31 2015 10:07 Trfel wrote:I just realized. Onegu's not saying anything about the orb is actually slightly towny. If scum gets the orb, they have two possibilities. - Say nothing
- Target a teammate (one who isn't carrying KP) and claim roleblock or rolecheck (obviously, claim a vanilla role check)
So, Onegu's play doesn't fit with either of those possibilities. Therefore, I conclude that it is a slightly towny thing to do.
Exactly and mafia still need two misslynches to win so ritoky is trying to throw shit on onegu to secure him as the second misslynch after me.
Instead of lynching me today i think we should do this.
We lynch FECALFEAST. . When he flips scum we then lynch RITOKY. If he flips When he flips scum we then probably lynch DAMDRED.
If ANY of these people flip town town may instantly lynch me and we will just lose the game.
This is where i am at now and i do not see this changing much. I am not as sure on damdred but i do not have room to second guess myself anymore because both vigis have backed up their claims with good town play. Trefel is lock clear, SL deserves the win if he risked shooting a partner, art has put far too much effort into keeping the thread alive and moving forward to be scum and onegu's play while different has seemed to only have town motivation behind it.
The only way thisplan is bad is if you think I am scum and FF is not scum with me as it would result in a 1 for 1 trade which would put us in mylo which is probably worth it for scum.
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On March 31 2015 11:35 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 10:30 Breshke wrote:On March 31 2015 10:07 Trfel wrote:I just realized. Onegu's not saying anything about the orb is actually slightly towny. If scum gets the orb, they have two possibilities. - Say nothing
- Target a teammate (one who isn't carrying KP) and claim roleblock or rolecheck (obviously, claim a vanilla role check)
So, Onegu's play doesn't fit with either of those possibilities. Therefore, I conclude that it is a slightly towny thing to do. Exactly and mafia still need two misslynches to win so ritoky is trying to throw shit on onegu to secure him as the second misslynch after me. Instead of lynching me today i think we should do this. We lynch FECALFEAST. . When he flips scum we then lynch RITOKY. If he flips When he flips scum we then probably lynch DAMDRED. If ANY of these people flip town town may instantly lynch me and we will just lose the game. This is where i am at now and i do not see this changing much. I am not as sure on damdred but i do not have room to second guess myself anymore because both vigis have backed up their claims with good town play. Trefel is lock clear, SL deserves the win if he risked shooting a partner, art has put far too much effort into keeping the thread alive and moving forward to be scum and onegu's play while different has seemed to only have town motivation behind it. The only way thisplan is bad is if you think I am scum and FF is not scum with me as it would result in a 1 for 1 trade which would put us in mylo which is probably worth it for scum. If you're town and anyone follows this plan, 2 townies get lynched. Good plan bro
Who is town out of me ritoky damdred and onegu
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So do you think there is mafia outside of (Me, you damdred, onegu, ritoky).
I'm not really understanding where you are at at all. It feels like you are keeping your options open.
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Like why were you okay with lynching me last phase if you thought i might be town?
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On March 31 2015 14:28 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 09:29 Breshke wrote:
I dont see in anyway how onegu played that was antitown especially if he didnt realise the orb would dissapear.
If anything he made the only play that made sense last phase if he did indeed get the RB ability because outing with it would not have helped town at all.
Note that if onegu was scum he could have infact got the allighnment check ability but this is not something ritoky even considers he just accepts it as fact that onegu is telling the truth and did RB him. If ritoky was town i believe he would be more skeptical of his scumspect.
Or if there mafia together. (which is probably the most likely thing considering poe) There just trying to confuse the hell out of us to "confirm" the other
I have considered this. I have considered onegus "Soulread" on rayn and how he has said he is never wrong but i haven't nor will i probably cheack this. I do not think onegu is mafia though. His dumbtell and the basis of his plays feel too townie.
Do you think I am scum SL? Also do you think FF is scum? What is your opinion on my lynch order/plan
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But why not just humour me and go with my plan where you only lose if onegu is scum with like 2 of the other three.
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Your clarity is going to be fucked when i flip town.
Someone explain to me why ritoky tries to bury onegu with that orb shit if they are mafis together. the way i see it damdred and onegu are the scum that will win in the final 4. Ritokys attempted bury doesnt even make sense. It wasnt an anti town play and he didnt even question that onegu actually RB him he just took it as fact. Something he would not do as town if he thought onegu was scum.
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