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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 23:43 GMT
#5689
OK, we can discuss night actions around ritoky now. Thanks for your cooperation guys.

I say we orb him
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 23:43 GMT
#5693
On March 24 2015 08:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
With the speed he claimed that it might actually be true, though he probably already looked it up at the time he claimed vt.

He had time to look it up, the fact that he stalled and called it a "random" green name makes me think he did.

Orb him
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 23:45 GMT
#5697
On March 24 2015 08:43 ritoky wrote:
so artanis from that list it looks like exo and toad are confirmed town pretty much? the rest seem like reinforced reads.

Hella interesting that you picked out one vig but not the other. Elaborate
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 00:09 GMT
#5719
On March 24 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 08:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 24 2015 08:43 ritoky wrote:
so artanis from that list it looks like exo and toad are confirmed town pretty much? the rest seem like reinforced reads.

There's no one that's "confirmed" as in greenchecked or anything like that. Here's where I'm at.
100% Confirmed Town
Me.
99.99% Confirmed Town
Vivax
Toadesstern
Trfel
Eden1892
Rsoultin
99% Confirmed Town
Exo
Damdred
95% Confirmed Town
FecalFeast


could you please separate this a bit for me? could you tell me which ones are from claims/checks and which ones are from vote logic/reads. cuz i think you're town as of now, but i don't really know shit about this game yet or give credence to your reads

This is what you need to know bro.

No one is actually confirmed town. But:

- Trfel claimed with the orb d2, after having used it to track LightningStrike to Holyflare's body. No one cc'd orb, Holyflare was indeed killed n1, LS flipped goon when he was lynched d2. Trfel is almost certainly town in any conceivable universe.
- I am The Rock this game. You can trust The Rock.
- rsoultin is town because (a) I said so and I'm never wrong on her, (b) she claimed jailer and (c) ExO_ scanned her town.
- ExO_ is town because he claimed cop in a way that basically has to make him town. He thought he was a role cop and outed with a "role" scan on rsoultin of "Nova Corps," when in fact he got an alignment scan on rsoultin of "Nova Corps." He outed because he believed rsoultin was lying about her claim and put forth the theory that she was the godfather. He was under no real pressure in the thread to claim. So he's probably town.
- Vivax and Toadesstern both claimed vig. Vivax was the original claimant and has been very townie, with something close to 30 pg filter after 2 days, most of it full of game-solving. Toadesstern cc'd Vivax when he didn't have to, tried hard (but unsuccessfully) to get Vivax lynched, and has also been trying to solve things when he's been around (albeit he's been a little underwhelming in this respect compared to his partner). Both of them are very likely town.
- Damdred has been working hard and making big, good analysis posts so he's town.
- Fecalfeast's only really large effort this game was busing the hell out of LS if FF is mafia, so FF is likely town.
- Artanis is just pretty townie man I'm tired at the end of this list and not feeling like explaining more lol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 00:11 GMT
#5721
INB4 Onegu and ray/ritoky are masons.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 00:11 GMT
#5722
sicklucker do you agree with my and artanis's mondo townreads list
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 00:13 GMT
#5727
On March 24 2015 09:12 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:
On March 24 2015 08:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 24 2015 08:43 ritoky wrote:
so artanis from that list it looks like exo and toad are confirmed town pretty much? the rest seem like reinforced reads.

There's no one that's "confirmed" as in greenchecked or anything like that. Here's where I'm at.
100% Confirmed Town
Me.
99.99% Confirmed Town
Vivax
Toadesstern
Trfel
Eden1892
Rsoultin
99% Confirmed Town
Exo
Damdred
95% Confirmed Town
FecalFeast


could you please separate this a bit for me? could you tell me which ones are from claims/checks and which ones are from vote logic/reads. cuz i think you're town as of now, but i don't really know shit about this game yet or give credence to your reads


Most are just there reads tbh. Its kind of absurd to say tref/toad/vivax/dandred/exo/eden area all confirmed with sketchy claims or no claims at all. I would bet my left nut 1 or 2 of them are acualy mafia

you have to be a mason with onegu and can't actually believe this
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 00:15 GMT
#5730
everyone including the mafia should probably just ignore sicklucker trying to wifom the nightkills by pretending to doubt the claims until he realizes that he's not actually making pro plays
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 00:16 GMT
#5735
[QUOTE]On March 24 2015 09:16 rsoultin wrote:
but i want sicklucker's nut?

i have a display case somewhere...that or i can just have it stuffed and give it to the cat to play with ^^

-poofing again bad rsoul-[/QUOTE[QUOTE]On March 24 2015 09:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 24 2015 09:12 sicklucker wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 24 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 24 2015 08:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 24 2015 08:43 ritoky wrote:
so artanis from that list it looks like exo and toad are confirmed town pretty much? the rest seem like reinforced reads.[/QUOTE]
There's no one that's "confirmed" as in greenchecked or anything like that. Here's where I'm at.
100% Confirmed Town
Me.
99.99% Confirmed Town
Vivax
Toadesstern
Trfel
Eden1892
Rsoultin
99% Confirmed Town
Exo
Damdred
95% Confirmed Town
FecalFeast[/QUOTE]

could you please separate this a bit for me? could you tell me which ones are from claims/checks and which ones are from vote logic/reads. cuz i think you're town as of now, but i don't really know shit about this game yet or give credence to your reads[/QUOTE]

Most are just there reads tbh. Its kind of absurd to say tref/toad/vivax/dandred/exo/eden area all confirmed with sketchy claims or no claims at all. I would bet my left nut 1 or 2 of them are acualy mafia[/QUOTE]
Call.[/QUOTE]
congrats to both of you for claiming dibs to a middle schooler's left nut
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 00:17 GMT
#5736
there's a fucked up quote tag in there somewhere but idgaf
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 00:17 GMT
#5737
changed my mind I found it and it's bothering me

On March 24 2015 09:16 rsoultin wrote:
but i want sicklucker's nut?

i have a display case somewhere...that or i can just have it stuffed and give it to the cat to play with ^^

-poofing again bad rsoul-
On March 24 2015 09:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 09:12 sicklucker wrote:
On March 24 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:
On March 24 2015 08:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 24 2015 08:43 ritoky wrote:
so artanis from that list it looks like exo and toad are confirmed town pretty much? the rest seem like reinforced reads.

There's no one that's "confirmed" as in greenchecked or anything like that. Here's where I'm at.
100% Confirmed Town
Me.
99.99% Confirmed Town
Vivax
Toadesstern
Trfel
Eden1892
Rsoultin
99% Confirmed Town
Exo
Damdred
95% Confirmed Town
FecalFeast


could you please separate this a bit for me? could you tell me which ones are from claims/checks and which ones are from vote logic/reads. cuz i think you're town as of now, but i don't really know shit about this game yet or give credence to your reads


Most are just there reads tbh. Its kind of absurd to say tref/toad/vivax/dandred/exo/eden area all confirmed with sketchy claims or no claims at all. I would bet my left nut 1 or 2 of them are acualy mafia

Call.

congrats to both of you for claiming dibs to a middle schooler's left nut
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 02:44 GMT
#5755
On March 24 2015 11:44 rsoultin wrote:
oh btw...the measure i was using to read rayn by in XXX when i caught him day 1

is the same one i was using here...

i just couldn't say that till the game was over lol ><

that or you know my read is wrong and he just happened to be scum that game...regardless...

-slips back into the fade-

well since it might have worked, elaborate for me. i didn't think ray was suspicious at all d1 like you or marv did so it might help here
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 03:25 GMT
#5759
On March 24 2015 12:12 Damdred wrote:
No clue onegu....

Anyway Eden, part of it was how BM rayn was when he was here compared to his most recent mafia showing. And his most recent town showing (mini mafia by fecal feast) he was much more balanced in that game than in XXX or in this game.

He also started fights for no reason with Palmar here and myself in XXX. And his read progression in this one and XXX was hard to follow at points as well.


I can see it

I also felt like ritoky's opening was really suspicious tbh. He's hella uptight this game. When he's town he's a total bro this game not so much thus far. And I really think the way he said "randomly named green role" betrays him not actually having the name of the VT role in his role PM. I dunno how convincingly I can argue this but it's just a weird way to say he's VT

On March 24 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
i already claimed?

it was colored green, i didn't get a list of actions or results, and no description. i am assuming that on those grounds it is VT, regardless of the random name it was given.


I can't 100% confirm this or anything obviously but this just screams "I'm fakeclaiming but I haven't read the OP yet so I don't know the name of the VT role." Like if you were actually a green role and people were telling you to claim and you didn't know whether it was VT or not, you'd just say the name and go from there. Yeah?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 04:08 GMT
#5762
Lynch list right now:

1a) ritoky
1b) Superbia
3a) Alakaslam
3b) Palmar
3c) Onegu

Depending on Onegu's mason claim and whatnot.

This feels too easy somehow though :/
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 04:13 GMT
#5763
I need a volunteer.

Here's LightningStrike's mondo reads list from d1. I've taken the liberty of including line breaks because seriously LS bro get your shit together

Also went ahead and colored in the flips. Feel free to color code your version as you wish.

Go through this with me and figure out some weird shit that points to mafia.
On March 19 2015 23:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 22:56 Damdred wrote:
Ls what are your current reads

Town:

Exo: He seemed to be his normal self some questions but I waiting for him to case someone at some point in the game after playing with him in Newbie LX.

rsoultin: She seems to happy to roll Mafia this game I would think she would be Mad at rolling Mafia again esp with me in the game but she seems to be having fun with her posts so far (She rolled Mafia in Horns of Africa and Titanic) Also she died way to early in JOAT because of mean HTS wanting to get rid of her so she wouldn't figure HTS out in JOAT She also my whisper so listen to her on me.

Holyflare: Some decent questions and plays similar to how he did in Horns when I played with him plus answering a meta point to me about Mafia!Rayn is more useless than Town!Rayn but idk what Rayn post would indicate that he's useless tbh :|

Vivax: Vivax is Vivax and that means he just crazy but I think he's trying hard this game and more likely Town than Mafia upon the fact he's trying so hard but he's crazy so meh.

Trfel: I finding his entrance odd but who the hell claims Mafia Day 1 except for Damdred in Imperial lol..... He got some decent questions and also can't wait for him to case someone even if he case the hosts (For those who didn't check Mini Mafia Down Under 2 he cased the host and it was funny as hell 10/10 would want him to case a host again).

Bill Murray: Asking some decent questions and my first time playing with him and seems to engage with his Mafiaread of Eden and noticing some stuff I don't think others did at the time.

Eden1892: Had some trolling stuff early on which I kinda expect from him as Town compared to Mafia with some decent questioning regarding me to rsoultin. Also his filter is much bigger than his filter as Mafia from experience playing with him.

Superbia: Much more serious already and already down to business which I think makes him more Town than Mafia knowing in Campus was kinda trolling in Day 1 and was useless in Imperial.

Breshke: Short filter but some of his questions ande thoughts to be something I would think he would do as Town more so than Mafia esp his little thing on sicklucker.

Null:

Damdred: Seems to be a his townie self but I remember he looked so townie yet he was Mafia in Titanic so I need another Day of him being alive to make a good read.

Artanis: As I said earlier he looked so Townie in Imperial yet he was Mafia but he also had a bad game as Mafia in Student VI so idk I need some more time to figure him out prob by Day 2 since I know he's a player by reputation being one of the best players in TL Mafia.

raynpelikoneet: Seems much angrier than normal idk if it's truely alignment indicative about him but HF says he's useless as Mafia compared to Town but his filter seems Palmar centric with some side tracks O_o

Palmar: Trolling a good amount I don't think it's alignment indicative for him since he loves to troll as both alignment from my experience with him cept for Metal Mini when he was super serious.

Alakaslam: Slam is Slam and I can't really read him and I know he's the true king of WIFOM as either alignemnt so meh.

Onegu: Very short filter and not really doing much but I remember him being kinda meh as town compared to Mafia but I need some more posts from him.

sicklucker: I can't read him anymore after Linux when he was Mafia and he always bounces off the walls as either alignment and did make some incorrect statements about self meta but he done that as either alignment. I think he becomes obvious Mafia at Day 2/3 area from my experience with him and seeing him playing as Mafia so I waiting for Day 2 to make my read on him.

Fecalfeast: He not raging about his role with time and idk if it's alignment indicative for him from my experience with him being town :|

Sorry for the long wait for my post I was updating it while checking the thread so I wouldn't be so lost and added in info while making the post!
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 04:21 GMT
#5764
The first thing I'm seeing is that I think LS tmi'd Breshke town. I looked at all 7 posts Breshke made and while it is my impression that they were more likely to be town!Breshke than mafia!Breshke, it's not outside of his mafia range to make a single decent read on Alakaslam/sicklucker and do nothing else. I think LS overestimated how townie Breshke's play looked at the time and decided to put him in the town pile a little prematurely.

Plus the fact that he had no scumreads probably means he wasn't feeling safe calling somebody mafia yet. That mindset would also seem to favor overestimating how townie townies look.

I'll be honest I'm really hoping Onegu and sicklucker are actually masons together. Pretty sure you can just lynch all of LS's nulls that haven't absolutely bled town all over the thread after we burn Superbia and call it a day.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 04:36 GMT
#5771
On March 24 2015 13:32 Toadesstern wrote:
sup I'm back o/

What did I miss except for obvious mafia flipping mafia?

Congrats on your sleep schedule

ray ragequit after dropping a tight game in XXX Mini (despite a brilliant performance, seriously), ritoky replaced in and is pretty much mafia IMO. Go read my stuff on ritoky and decide for yourself though, I'm at my best when people are showing me where I'm wrong.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 04:37 GMT
#5772
On March 24 2015 13:35 ritoky wrote:
is it weird that I don't like either damdred or eden as town and everyone is telling me they are confirmed?

your team is about 120 hours too late on the disruption strategy

a for effort tho
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 04:59 GMT
#5787
On March 24 2015 13:53 ritoky wrote:
more people should answer this

Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 09:34 ritoky wrote:
so i just read about this orb thing in the op. SL instantly claimed having the orb, what do people make of that? more likely town, more likely mafia, completely null? why?


why don't you share your findings with the class first
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 24 2015 05:08 GMT
#5789
why aren't you engaging breshke about this instead of trfel? breshke's the one who's actually a question mark relatively speaking
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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