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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 18:34 GMT
#3675
On March 22 2015 03:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Damdred I was townreading Artanis so when he voted Vivax and the counterclaim by Toad I really thought Vivax was Mafia and I wasn't around at EoD because I was picking up my Dad from the Airport and having Dinner with him but if I was there I still wouldn't move my vote to BM because I was townreading BM if you had checked my filter -_- Also I should of told you guys this but I just been really demotivated because my Grandpa who I only met when I was a toddler is dieing and he might die within a few days and was stressed out about him dieing and not knowing him real well but since I signed up I feel like I still have to play it out even if I don't want to. I will try to be better but can't guaranteed anything on that. I going to get my haircut now and go to a BBQ with my parents and wont be back till after EoN so if I'm alive I will check everything and see what I can come up with myself!



I know how that goes. Don't worry overmuch about this game, family first. Message me if you need any help amigo.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 18:36 GMT
#3676
On March 22 2015 03:34 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 03:31 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 03:27 ExO_ wrote:
Damdred:

When I first began pressuring Eden I wasn't 100% sure on it. But his reaction to me seemed very panicky, and thus made me think he was scum. I'm not sure what part you didn't think I followed up on, but from what I remember he never brought up any counter points or things for me to answer when I was questioning him. He just got raged a bit.

After he "reset" he seemed a bit better to me so I've backed off. I'm still not sure about him.

But I think after the results of day 1 there are significantly better people to be looking at, which I've mentioned. You're damn right I was angry after day 1, because I highly highly disagree with what happened. A bunch of people jumped on a borderline mod-kill lynch instead of resolving 2 people CC. I heavily do not believe both are vigs. I just don't think its possible. Therefore it would've been better to figure out who's lying in my mind. An opinion I stand by.

And don't say I'm incapable of scum hunting before day 2 even starts. I already know exactly where I should focus. But it would be better for me to see the results of the night. After all what if both Vivax and Toad die? Or if one dies and pops vig (though I suspect this will only happen to Toad, as I do believe Vivax is scum).

And on a side note. I know everyone here has played a lot and agrees long filter = town. But is that always true? Is it really that hard for a mafia to post a lot, especially like in Vivax's case for instance when he was on the chopping block?

But then if you aren't sure of me why do you still have yet to followup on any of the subjects you were pressing me about in the first place???


You're like 6th down the line for me. I'm more interested in Palmar, rsoultin, HolyFlare, Vivax, and rayn. I think they are all more likely scum than you are. You haven't seemed nearly as bad since you're little tantrum, then reset as well.

well since i'm town you're not wrong

but let's start with some of these others cuz I don't agree. except not with rsoultin, you don't need to worry about her yet - if you decide i'm town you can 100% sheep me on her being town.

why HF as mafia?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 18:47 GMT
#3682
On March 22 2015 03:44 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 03:36 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 03:34 ExO_ wrote:
On March 22 2015 03:31 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 03:27 ExO_ wrote:
Damdred:

When I first began pressuring Eden I wasn't 100% sure on it. But his reaction to me seemed very panicky, and thus made me think he was scum. I'm not sure what part you didn't think I followed up on, but from what I remember he never brought up any counter points or things for me to answer when I was questioning him. He just got raged a bit.

After he "reset" he seemed a bit better to me so I've backed off. I'm still not sure about him.

But I think after the results of day 1 there are significantly better people to be looking at, which I've mentioned. You're damn right I was angry after day 1, because I highly highly disagree with what happened. A bunch of people jumped on a borderline mod-kill lynch instead of resolving 2 people CC. I heavily do not believe both are vigs. I just don't think its possible. Therefore it would've been better to figure out who's lying in my mind. An opinion I stand by.

And don't say I'm incapable of scum hunting before day 2 even starts. I already know exactly where I should focus. But it would be better for me to see the results of the night. After all what if both Vivax and Toad die? Or if one dies and pops vig (though I suspect this will only happen to Toad, as I do believe Vivax is scum).

And on a side note. I know everyone here has played a lot and agrees long filter = town. But is that always true? Is it really that hard for a mafia to post a lot, especially like in Vivax's case for instance when he was on the chopping block?

But then if you aren't sure of me why do you still have yet to followup on any of the subjects you were pressing me about in the first place???


You're like 6th down the line for me. I'm more interested in Palmar, rsoultin, HolyFlare, Vivax, and rayn. I think they are all more likely scum than you are. You haven't seemed nearly as bad since you're little tantrum, then reset as well.

well since i'm town you're not wrong

but let's start with some of these others cuz I don't agree. except not with rsoultin, you don't need to worry about her yet - if you decide i'm town you can 100% sheep me on her being town.

why HF as mafia?


Because he started the BM train. We were going to resolve the 2 vigi nonsense day 1, and then he came in and derailed it onto BM. rsoultin I feel like should've known better than to switch, so I find it odd that she did. I don't agree with the reasoning she gave me for switching. Palmar for that last second "yolo" vote. like wtf. And rayn is on the train too, but I was highly suspicious of that tracker claim he threw out there.

Of all these people HF is probably the weakest scum read the more I think about it. But he did start the useless ass train onto BM. So I have to at consider him.

so you make nothing out of him claiming masons with Onegu and Onegu confirming it then...?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 18:47 GMT
#3683
On March 22 2015 03:47 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 03:44 ExO_ wrote:
On March 22 2015 03:36 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 03:34 ExO_ wrote:
On March 22 2015 03:31 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 03:27 ExO_ wrote:
Damdred:

When I first began pressuring Eden I wasn't 100% sure on it. But his reaction to me seemed very panicky, and thus made me think he was scum. I'm not sure what part you didn't think I followed up on, but from what I remember he never brought up any counter points or things for me to answer when I was questioning him. He just got raged a bit.

After he "reset" he seemed a bit better to me so I've backed off. I'm still not sure about him.

But I think after the results of day 1 there are significantly better people to be looking at, which I've mentioned. You're damn right I was angry after day 1, because I highly highly disagree with what happened. A bunch of people jumped on a borderline mod-kill lynch instead of resolving 2 people CC. I heavily do not believe both are vigs. I just don't think its possible. Therefore it would've been better to figure out who's lying in my mind. An opinion I stand by.

And don't say I'm incapable of scum hunting before day 2 even starts. I already know exactly where I should focus. But it would be better for me to see the results of the night. After all what if both Vivax and Toad die? Or if one dies and pops vig (though I suspect this will only happen to Toad, as I do believe Vivax is scum).

And on a side note. I know everyone here has played a lot and agrees long filter = town. But is that always true? Is it really that hard for a mafia to post a lot, especially like in Vivax's case for instance when he was on the chopping block?

But then if you aren't sure of me why do you still have yet to followup on any of the subjects you were pressing me about in the first place???


You're like 6th down the line for me. I'm more interested in Palmar, rsoultin, HolyFlare, Vivax, and rayn. I think they are all more likely scum than you are. You haven't seemed nearly as bad since you're little tantrum, then reset as well.

well since i'm town you're not wrong

but let's start with some of these others cuz I don't agree. except not with rsoultin, you don't need to worry about her yet - if you decide i'm town you can 100% sheep me on her being town.

why HF as mafia?


Because he started the BM train. We were going to resolve the 2 vigi nonsense day 1, and then he came in and derailed it onto BM. rsoultin I feel like should've known better than to switch, so I find it odd that she did. I don't agree with the reasoning she gave me for switching. Palmar for that last second "yolo" vote. like wtf. And rayn is on the train too, but I was highly suspicious of that tracker claim he threw out there.

Of all these people HF is probably the weakest scum read the more I think about it. But he did start the useless ass train onto BM. So I have to at consider him.



Then why aren't you putting me in your scum list?

m y n i n j a
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 19:08 GMT
#3718
ExO_ I know you're replying to a lot of things at once rn but why are you ignoring/not acknowledging the fact that HF and Onegu are claiming masons...?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 19:28 GMT
#3736
On March 22 2015 04:16 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 04:08 Eden1892 wrote:
ExO_ I know you're replying to a lot of things at once rn but why are you ignoring/not acknowledging the fact that HF and Onegu are claiming masons...?


Because I'm not sure if I want to accept it or not. But I have seen it and do think its possible, even likely.

I don't like this answer. You seem to phrase it as though you were indeed aware of their claims - "I'm not sure if I want to accept it" meaning that you were considering it but haven't decided on an opinion.

But then why does the claim not seem to inform your reads at all? You make no mention of it in reading Holyflare and you make no mention of Onegu at all when they literally have to be the same alignment.

Can you please explain this discrepancy for me?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 19:29 GMT
#3740
On March 22 2015 04:25 Holyflare wrote:
do you not think that it's weird that the play that we're inevitably stuck with is that we control the vigi shots and the only people we need in the thread are the vigi's and one of them is here while the other afk's doing nothing?

On March 22 2015 04:26 Toadesstern wrote:
Sorry guys had a shitty day, stuff happened, no time for TL. Were there suggestions on what to shoot? If not I'd like to suggest a Holyflare shot.

Trust me guys I know what I'm doing

chilling
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 19:29 GMT
#3743
On March 22 2015 04:29 Holyflare wrote:
I'm a big mafia threat.

for you
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 19:30 GMT
#3745
On March 22 2015 04:29 Toadesstern wrote:
I bring death to all the fakeclaimers

so shoot Onegu instead at the very least.

no offense Onegu you're the homie but if Toad is shooting a mason claim to confirm them HF is more valuable than you :o

but this is moot because you're not shooting them.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 19:34 GMT
#3757
well this whole scenario basically confirms HF and Onegu town even harder

let's look at this situation and assume HF is mafia
- Toad and Vivax both claim vig
- Either one is mafia or neither are
- If one is mafia then HF passed on the chance to lynch Toad to save his partner Vivax and instead lynched vt OR he passed on the chance to lynch Vivax to save his partner Toad and instead lynched vt and now his partner is threatening to shoot him
- If neither is mafia then HF passed on the chance to lynch a town vig to lynch vt

in no world does that make sense
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 19:35 GMT
#3762
toad isn't mafia though he's just toadstool-on-head retarded and drunk with hero play glory dreams rn
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 19:43 GMT
#3771
like i am dead serious vivax please do not shoot toad. i am pretty sure he is town despite this silliness
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 19:47 GMT
#3777
On March 22 2015 04:44 Toadesstern wrote:
not despite. Because

...huh, yeah, kinda
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 19:57 GMT
#3791
On March 22 2015 04:49 sicklucker wrote:
I know only one of you are really a mason because it would be really retarded if you both claimed for no reason. Be very careful with whoever the one who is faking being your partner.

.....................
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 20:27 GMT
#3844
On March 22 2015 05:05 Alakaslam wrote:
Vivax, shoot Rsoultin. If she is town we can deduce rayn may very well be scum

NO. FUCK THAT. DO NOT EVER EVER DO THIS.

I will policy lynch you d2 if this happens.

When the fuck are people going to start recognizing I have a literal 100% for sure accurate read on rsoultin
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 20:32 GMT
#3855
On March 22 2015 05:30 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 05:27 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 05:05 Alakaslam wrote:
Vivax, shoot Rsoultin. If she is town we can deduce rayn may very well be scum

NO. FUCK THAT. DO NOT EVER EVER DO THIS.

I will policy lynch you d2 if this happens.

When the fuck are people going to start recognizing I have a literal 100% for sure accurate read on rsoultin


100% accurate until you aren't

What makes you so sure she's town, anything not meta-based?

I whiffed once in the history of playing with rsoultin and that was when I was still developing / first figured out the read.

I am not wrong, this is not under discussion
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 20:33 GMT
#3860
I never ever ever make statements with that level of confidence about my capacity to meta read anybody else. I'm not just blowing smoke here.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 20:39 GMT
#3870
anyway back to this
On March 22 2015 04:37 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 04:28 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 22 2015 04:16 ExO_ wrote:
On March 22 2015 04:08 Eden1892 wrote:
ExO_ I know you're replying to a lot of things at once rn but why are you ignoring/not acknowledging the fact that HF and Onegu are claiming masons...?


Because I'm not sure if I want to accept it or not. But I have seen it and do think its possible, even likely.

I don't like this answer. You seem to phrase it as though you were indeed aware of their claims - "I'm not sure if I want to accept it" meaning that you were considering it but haven't decided on an opinion.

But then why does the claim not seem to inform your reads at all? You make no mention of it in reading Holyflare and you make no mention of Onegu at all when they literally have to be the same alignment.

Can you please explain this discrepancy for me?


I guess I haven't thought it through yet. Onegu has been very quiet and has hardly stuck out so I've not been playing with what he's said in mind.

But you're right they do have to be the same alignment. And I don't think I'd be comfortable calling both scum at this point. I was/am really pissed off at HF for starting that BM lynch train. And he thinks he's some huge threat to mafia, when I think what he did helps mafia more than it hurts. But begrudgingly I think he's more likely to be town

i'm still a bit unsettled with this, but i think it is objectively an acceptable answer. so i'll let that sit and continue onward

you named Palmar as another suspect. why?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 20:40 GMT
#3871
On March 22 2015 05:37 Holyflare wrote:
he could have just afk'd on toad and vivax would still die

there is 0 way we let him get away with that
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2015 20:50 GMT
#3892
tbh i think slam and ve should be the shots
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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