EPTXXX Mini Mafia: A Night of Debauchery (18+) - Page 292
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On March 10 2015 08:28 marvellosity wrote: I have a total of one light townread. But I'm not telling. This here. You've actually done this quite a bit as mafia, those teasing little "I'm withholding info teehee". I suppose you've done them as town too, but it's much less pronounced. | ||
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Then I guess I do the same as mafia because I do it as town. | ||
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On January 25 2015 06:18 marvellosity wrote: not telling mine, though it does partially conflict with someone else's if someone wanted to research my past pyp games it shouldn't be too hard to track down though Imperial: On January 02 2015 04:28 marvellosity wrote: I take this back. Not explaining why for now. Metal: On December 17 2014 06:56 marvellosity wrote: somewhat highish, but not for the boring reasons you think | ||
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marvellosity
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Clear interest in lynches (whether I am sure or completely unsure). Parts of the game where I try to engage the thread to help solve the game with me, while obviously doing research (2nd half day 2) Properly losing my temper. I try to be dickish as mafia to represent, but I just can't. I can call people a moron or bad or an idiot but I can't genuinely rage. I just can't do it properly. Anything else you might find is me being bad, or incorrect, or you not agreeing, or whatever. But none of it matters at all. | ||
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Palmar
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And yes, throughout the entire game I've been waffling on you because you've been somewhat different in your interactions with me. I mean it's easy to accept all those things now that you have a green check on you, but it's just one weird thing after another that I really, really didn't fit. Like I've at various times gone "fuck it marv is town" and right back to scumreading you, bouncing around all day. And I genuinely believe that it is very dangerous for me to give you a townread which is why I don't do it unless I'm reasonably sure. Like I don't allow myself to think you're town because I know no one else is going to call you mafia. But this may be skewed. Still, imperial hurt. | ||
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marvellosity
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The "weird things that really, really didn't fit". None of them matter. They get obliterated by the broadbrush strokes I outlined above. Imperial - I had a massive filter, which won me the day, because I'd never got close to achieving that again. But my interest in lynches was demonstrably low. I never tried to involve the thread in actively solving and researching the game with me. I never got properly mad. (I don't always as town, but it usually happens when people call me mafia which did happen in imperial, so i had reason to) I scored 1/4. | ||
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But I feel like, even if to date you haven't done it, all of the things you list are quite easily replicated. Or well, not easily, but at least potentially within some super tryhard marv mafia range. And you did stonewall me a bit there, which you did this game too (in hindsight probably differently and for different reasons, but still...) I am fine with not having a perfect read on you. It's been years since I gave up the jig "I have to be the best mafia player possible". Because that is very time-consuming and in the end just not very fun for me. I do always try to be productive for my team though, at least to some extent, while still allowing myself to entertain the other fun aspects of mafia, social interaction and theatrics etc. I had a run where I lynched or tried to lynch mafia on day 1 like 7? 8? games in a row. That's where the whole "Palmar's best at day is day 1" thing comes from. It was sort of fun, but the games have gotten progressively longer and the time invested has become more and more. I am okay with being just a random middle of the pack player. So yeah, I was wrong on you. Big deal, I'm going to be again at some point in the future. | ||
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marvellosity
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I mention them because they're not easily replicable at all - basically I have tried and failed. You give my (potential) scumgame too much credit. All my scum strengths are strategic (which is where I think I beat Holyflare or jat, even though I think they are markedly superior in the way they post to me as scum) | ||
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Palmar
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The grandest of all grand cases. The case for Palmar being Town Written by: Pálmar Presented by Pálmar Chapter 1: The early game hero The absolutely first thing I noticed in the game was Ls's reaction to my scumclaim. I immediately loved it. When rayn suggested that everyone who had posted I was very much on board with the idea so I wrote this post here: On March 10 2015 07:13 Palmar wrote: pretty much yeah. There's an outside chance JAT is mafia, but I'm willing to clear him for the day. I later explained this entire passage here: On March 14 2015 00:14 Palmar wrote: So, two things I've repeatedly referenced but not explained: rayn's betrayal This is rayn in the early game. I looked at this post, double checked the first few posts and thought to myself "hey I actually kinda sorta like that observation". So I responded with this. Obviously these are super weak clears, but I really liked the starting point rayn was going to work from. But then he responded with this: And I just got mad. I've wanted to kill rayn ever since. Because he threw out what I thought was a fairly decent observation and it ended up being a dumb shit trap play. Also, to expand even further on this one, here is WHY I thought he may have had the right idea. I liked Damdred's entrance. It wasn't forced, it was sorta jokey but not in the meek way Damdred enters the thread when he's mafia. It was just a casual joke that I had literally no problems with. I've already explained why I think LS is mafia because of this and I don't think I'll be wavering from that read any time soon. JAT is the one I didn't feel particularly good, hence why I mentioned there being a chance he was mafia. But I decided that maybe rayn had some sort of a read on him and I was okay with sheeping that for now. Which leads me to think rayn himself is town, because he made a very smart observation that I for the most part agreed with. You can imagine how annoyed I was when he turned around and did the trap thing. I can't remember what the other thing is now because this took long to write, but I'll remember soon. I had kinda decided to just sheep whatever wagons I found this game, so when Onegu went for Koshi I randomly chose to sheep it with no reasons: I want to stop here and point out that JAT spewed me town day 1: On March 10 2015 20:03 justanothertownie wrote: Eden because of his general attitude. Palmar because of this post: There is literally no way he is saying this about a scumbuddy. But let's gloss over that and keep going. I remember, reading my own filter, kinda doubting that Koshi was actually taking notes and being suspicious of him for a while. He came back with a post I claimed I could write in 5 minutes (turns out it took me 7) and that post became my first list read or state-of-the-game post. As I'm reading along I also remember being suspicous of him (Koshi) for changing his mind to please marv and I, but I kinda stopped chasing that idea and decided to just vote JAT. I can't even remember why I voted him. I think I called him town early for laughing at a joke or something and then I got mad when he questioned me reading him town for that. I also called him shit a bit, so that seems like a good reason to suspect him. prplhz questioned me and koshi going for JAT and he wrote a post that ticked me (I misunderstood him) see here: Which ended up in me wrinting this oft-quoted post. On March 10 2015 20:20 Palmar wrote: ok I'm done with today. option a) lynch prplhz option b) lynch JAT I don't particularly care which one. They can find out between themselves. This is around the time marv started suspecting rayn, so I made this incredibly best observation: On March 10 2015 22:06 Palmar wrote: sure. It's just that I'm not sure that mafia rayn would be attacking me on something so blatantly wrong. Which is totall just a joke if rayn is mafia. I did then come around to actually want to lynch rayn, mostly because of how he was interrogating LS. At the time I had already formed my very strong townread on Eden AND explained it: On March 10 2015 19:50 Palmar wrote: I'm actually going to elaborate on my LS read: This interaction happened within a minute. If LS is mafia he knows I'm not. If he knows I'm not mafia he doesn't do this very much LS thing where he looks like he genuinely believes I am actually mafia for a second and posts this impulsive post. Ergo, LS is town. QED. Which I think marv agreed with. I left the thread around this time as I usually do and when I came back in the evening I decided to troll a bit and started messing around with posts for no good reason. I did in the process make this tounge-in-cheek jab at JAT though: This is also around the time JAT again starts confirming me town by being annoyed with me basically not playing On March 11 2015 07:11 justanothertownie wrote: He is amusing. It would be more fun if he would actually play the game though. On March 11 2015 07:12 Palmar wrote: confirmed mad at my antics. JAT mafia. Then I went to sleep. When I woke up the morning after I decided it was time to do a sex analysis. Of course that seems like a fairly random move but hey. Oh, and prior to do ing that I voted JAT again because why not. I actually kinda sorta believed my sex analysis and called all the people who were dead serious mafia (rayn, prplhz, koshi, jat). Also apparently I got people's roles correct (Koshi and JAT  ) I can't remember why I called koshi cop though. Maybe because he was being all serious and anti-fun.For some reason people wanted to lynch eden day 1, I can't even rememeber why, but seeing as I was already throwing my vote around everywhere, I actually decided to just sheep it. followed by a troll vote on marv (this wasn't actually a vote to kill, I just wanted to see if anyone would believe me). I don't think I got much useful out of this stunt. On March 12 2015 04:15 Palmar wrote: ##unvote ##vote marv 100 % mafia. I'll explain when in front of a computer. When I came back people wanted to kill JAT. I can't remember exactly how the wagon was standing, but I had been calling him mafia and scumreading him all day so I was very much okay with this lynch. I voted him right away: On March 12 2015 06:47 Palmar wrote: ##unvote ##vote JAT I didn't read anything but the post at the top of the page said there's 95% chance we're lynching him so I'm assuming I'm sheeping people who actually care. Not to mention JAT confirmed me town for the third time that day: On March 12 2015 06:57 Palmar wrote: The real question is, why do you lack sex appeal? I then trolled JAT a bit by calling him worst mislynch (tbh I was also hedging my bets so I could say I was okay with mislynching him to ruin his stats). And I saw literally no downside in CC-ing rayn. I felt like I was easily in a strong enough position to withdraw without consequences and trolling rayn a bit in addition to maybe (although no one believed me...) helping him survive if he is actually medic. I think this concludes part 1. Stay tuned for part 2, descent into madness. | ||
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