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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 28 2015 02:03 GMT
#371
On skimming the thread, the argument against prplhz seems primarily based on semantics.

I did not see anything that just hit me in the face scummy from him...and there were a few such points early game when we were scum together in Titanic. I don't think he's scum this game.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 28 2015 02:07 GMT
#375
On February 28 2015 11:04 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 11:03 rsoultin wrote:
On skimming the thread, the argument against prplhz seems primarily based on semantics.

I did not see anything that just hit me in the face scummy from him...and there were a few such points early game when we were scum together in Titanic. I don't think he's scum this game.

And don't you think it's weird that KelsierSC doesn't get this?


I'm not sure on KSC yet. I've liked some of his posts, and found others to be highly nitpicky on weak reasons...but I can see a town mindset in turning over every stone in an attempt to find scum. I wouldn't vote him today based on his play so far.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 28 2015 02:16 GMT
#380
On February 27 2015 14:26 rsoultin wrote:
Truffle's post: + Show Spoiler +
On February 27 2015 14:05 Trfel wrote:
Hi.

I'm going to head to sleep now, but I figured I would share some thoughts first.

First, this is obviously a post restricted game, and I intend to do my best to use my posts effectively. At times, this can mean communicating my thoughts through the voting thread (see my vote and later unvote on rsoultin). I feel that my reasons for both of these actions were obvious, though I do intend to explain.

My real question is, where does the nonsense end and the game start? I feel like there has been a lot more opening nonsense this game than in most, and this game is the one with post restrictions.

Here's the reasons for my suspicions of rsoultin.

I can understand wasting posts at the start of the game, but the post wasting continued for quite some time. Rsoultin's posts felt like they came later, more of as an afterthought, while it was after the point that nonsense posts had any value in at least starting the conversation. By the time rsoultin first posted, we had Robik wasting five posts, VayneAuthority voting for Oatsmaster, two vanilla town claims, and a cop claim. Plenty of random things to start the game, no more is needed. And then comes this wonderful post.
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken

like buildings


and people


a likely story

-rolls around the thread-

ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy?
Rsoultin isn't saying anything at all here, and she isn't making a joke or an interesting comment. "Rolling around the thread" and discussing happiness feels a bit out of place, though I'm bad at tone reads. My point is that I expect rsoultin to be sensible enough to conserve posts to some degree, and I don't see that here. Thus, my vote communicated the simple message of "step it up and play the game". Rsoultin shared a small number of game-related thoughts, and I removed my vote for now.

I know that many people have made useless posts, I just think rsoultin looks more suspicious for it because she is sensible enough not to and she started doing so well after everyone else did. I am very interested to see where rsoultin goes from here.

Thoughts?


First: lamesauce. There was perhaps one post since I entered the thread that didn't have a particular purpose, and newsflash: the one you quoted wasn't it. I'm not going to translate myself for y'all, but you're free to ask me what I'm on about if you like. That's the more townie way of going about things Translation for the dull: Weak-ass argument, Trfel.

Second: Out of all the things going on in the thread, this is what you choose to talk about? Translation for the dull: Why was my posting the only thing he found significant in the thread?

Third: 60 posts a day phase. 60. You can't take two for votes and unvotes? You have to wait for Oats and I to vote you first before you can be bothered to explain yourself, instead thinking we'll read your mind? lol that's rich Translation for the dull: Trfel's excuse for not posting is complete BS.

Fourth: Don't think I'm not aware that you're scared of me catching you when you roll scum. My Trfel BS-dar is particularly good So you going out of your way not to say a word is very suspicious Truffle-wuffle. Translation for the ignorant: I caught him instantly in his one scum game on the site.

Fifth: If you don't like the direction of the thread, shouldn't you be in here guiding it rather than lurking and casting votes without explanations? You know, that other townie thing players do as town? Translation for the dull: Trfel complained about something without attempting to fix it, which suggests that it didn't bother him enough to do anything about. Or post at all, apparently.

Conclusion: I like my vote where it stands right now ^^ Translation for the dull: I think Trfel is scum.

[...]



Yeah, that looks so defensive lol >< Your reads are much different than mine this game, Super. Some reason you're defending Trfel on an inexplicable meta-read that doesn't line up with mine...when mine has proven to be pretty damn good multiple times?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 28 2015 02:21 GMT
#381
On an unrelated note, can someone explain to me why the mod's response to Robik's post makes Robik town? I'm lost on that one.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 28 2015 02:29 GMT
#385
Yeah, I find the reasoning weak? I thought maybe there was more to it, lol. Maybe enough to keep him from being lynched today (Trfel should be the lynch, regardless, unless he suddenly starts bleeding town) but I'd hardly call that confirmed :/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 28 2015 02:37 GMT
#390
Lol, if Robik can't convince us he's town without mod intervention, then he's sucking serious ass this game.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 28 2015 02:45 GMT
#393
Mostly just impressions.

I like Rayn this game; his reads are lining up with mine on the whole.
Like prplhz cause this doesn't seem like his scum game (in my limited experience, but whatevs)
Like Slam, but I need to see more gooberliness to put him as firm town.

Robik I was scumreading earlier. I'm not really convinced by this "mod confirm", but I don't mind giving him the benefit of the doubt for a bit to see what happens.

Super may be scum. Rayn reads Trfel's scum game and thinks scum. I know Trfel well and think scum. Super says he has a god-tier meta-read and thinks town? Something does not compute.

Others ranking in at null or slight leans.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 28 2015 02:54 GMT
#396


Siggy of doom! Be thou smited! lol

They dubbed me Rasputin in my first game here ^^ and FF found this for me. I just find it amusing that it ends with being shot
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 28 2015 06:08 GMT
#399
I'm almost inclined to agree with you, Oats. Almost. Yet I've seen how Trfel reacts to a mislynch, and this is certainly not it. Perhaps he is inactive for other reasons? If so, that's unfortunate, because I know he's fully capable of looking extremely town as town if he just posts and does his thing.

That and there has been enough push-back lol in its little nooks and crannies here and there.

Super
Onegu
You
KSC wanting to focus on prplhz for so long
robik
even ritoky, to some extent

I wouldn't call 5 votes a landslide, by any means. I think that's enough to say the lynch isn't too easy. Do you have a better lynch to suggest?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 28 2015 07:00 GMT
#406
On February 28 2015 15:55 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 15:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Read on KSC.

Whatever.

The point is, the read is a meta read in which you put 0 fucking effort into explaining but just dump the filters in the thread and expect us to somehow come to the same conclusion as you.


so your primary lynch read you can't even be bothered to have the proper info in your read about?

how very town of you. /sarcasm


I generally don't lynch purely on meta (especially meta I'm unfamiliar with) cause lol...silly much?

You did explain it a little later as an overarching thing, scope of reads, etc. Is there anything particular in this game apart from the meta read that makes you think KSC is scum, ritoky?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 28 2015 07:20 GMT
#408
On February 28 2015 16:13 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 16:00 rsoultin wrote:
On February 28 2015 15:55 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 15:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Read on KSC.

Whatever.

The point is, the read is a meta read in which you put 0 fucking effort into explaining but just dump the filters in the thread and expect us to somehow come to the same conclusion as you.


so your primary lynch read you can't even be bothered to have the proper info in your read about?

how very town of you. /sarcasm


I generally don't lynch purely on meta (especially meta I'm unfamiliar with) cause lol...silly much?

You did explain it a little later as an overarching thing, scope of reads, etc. Is there anything particular in this game apart from the meta read that makes you think KSC is scum, ritoky?


what do you think of oats trying to push a lynch on me without even having the right info?

I will respond to the ksc stuff in like 10 mins when I am on a real comp


mmmm I saw his point more when I thought he was actually talking about rayn lol ^^ that whole argument was kinda pointless and pissing contest-y (totally a new word yup yup)

you weren't as specific as I'd like you to be and it took a few prods to get it fully explained, but you did explain it. I don't think it matters much that his info was wrong unless when corrected he still clings to it stubbornly. being wrong isn't alignment-indicative
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 28 2015 07:37 GMT
#410
On February 28 2015 16:27 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 16:00 rsoultin wrote:
On February 28 2015 15:55 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 15:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Read on KSC.

Whatever.

The point is, the read is a meta read in which you put 0 fucking effort into explaining but just dump the filters in the thread and expect us to somehow come to the same conclusion as you.


so your primary lynch read you can't even be bothered to have the proper info in your read about?

how very town of you. /sarcasm


I generally don't lynch purely on meta (especially meta I'm unfamiliar with) cause lol...silly much?

You did explain it a little later as an overarching thing, scope of reads, etc. Is there anything particular in this game apart from the meta read that makes you think KSC is scum, ritoky?


Eh might be a bit longer than I thought to go grab examples. Basically I think his read on prp is a crappy version of the read I gave on LS last game where he referenced a conversation that never happened in the thread. Unfortunately in this case I find it to be a stretch compared to last time when it was very clear cut even though it just turned out to be LS making stuff up. His scope is also very narrow like it is during his scum games thus far. Dunno, am not impressed enough with him to move off of my meta read.


Okay. That's fair. Not based on meta, and entirely based on the fact that I truly believe Trfel is scum (not to mention that was the topic of the thread at the time) I found it strange that KSC chose to latch onto that particular detail regarding prp's post. I'm not prplhz...but a vote = scumread in most cases, or at least can be construed that way, so I didn't find what prplhz said all that strange.

That said, I don't know that it makes KSC scum. He could just genuinely see it as a contradiction, just like you still can't see that LS didn't actually make anything up last game lol >< I need to write an LS dictionary for y'all

KSC shitting up the thread over that, though, if Trfel flips scum would look decidedly more scummy.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 28 2015 15:09 GMT
#422
I still want a Trfel lynch, in all honesty, because my reads on him I'm more confident of, but you won't see me shedding any tears over a Superbia lynch; I suspect he's mafia as well.

Lol I know it looks like I just think people calling me mafia are mafia, but something about his interaction with me felt really off. Apart from the "meta" read on Trfel not making any sense, the tone I was getting off Superbia's posts was rather sulky. Like "well, well, well...okay so those are good points but you're still mafia!" complete with stomping off and slamming the door heh.

Don't ask how my brain works. Sometimes I don't get it either -_-

That he hasn't explained his meta read on Trfel at all or demonstrated in any way why what I'm doing can only come from scum...(one of us must be scum, it isn't Trfel, and so it must be me? that's a weak argument). What's more strange is if he's going to use meta on Trfel, why isn't he using meta on me? lol Granted, I doubt he'd get it right anyway if this is an example of Superbia's meta reads.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 28 2015 18:06 GMT
#431
Lol thank god for google translate...and that KSC can also use the google

That wasn't a bad point, Palmar. Why don't you take a closer look at Super, KSC, and get a read on him? I'm quite curious what you think. Cause right now if Truffle starts bleeding town before EoD I'd probably switch to Super. I can easily see his "rsoul vs trfel" staging as a way to push two mislynches if Trfel is town by some miracle.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 28 2015 18:31 GMT
#436
On March 01 2015 03:21 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 10:52 rsoultin wrote:
On February 28 2015 10:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 28 2015 10:43 rsoultin wrote:
Let's recap, shall we?

@1920... Trfel votes an Rsoul

My last post before this vote (1759):
On February 27 2015 08:59 rsoultin wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:45 IAmRobik wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken

like buildings


and people


a likely story

-rolls around the thread-

ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy?


Silverarte: Hey Rsoul, why did you make this post?
Rsoul: Oh, I don't know, because I like to post useless shit


Lol, hello pot. My name is kettle.

Oh wait, wait, there was a hidden message in your first five posts? -mindblown-



@2143... Trfel unvotes an Rsoul

My last post before this unvote (2133):
On February 27 2015 12:33 rsoultin wrote:
On February 27 2015 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
palmar is absolutely a fucking lier but hes not scum.


You got that from his two ever-so-enlightening posts?

-bows to the Palmar!whisperer-


Still no post from Trfel in the thread. A half hour passes, and I go huh. Let's try something.

@2222... Rsoul votes a Trfel

@2233... Oats votes a Trfel (I commented on this vote, prplhz, which is probably where you got your impression from)

Low and behold, a magically appearing Trfel posts @23:05
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 27 2015 14:05 Trfel wrote:
Hi.

I'm going to head to sleep now, but I figured I would share some thoughts first.

First, this is obviously a post restricted game, and I intend to do my best to use my posts effectively. At times, this can mean communicating my thoughts through the voting thread (see my vote and later unvote on rsoultin). I feel that my reasons for both of these actions were obvious, though I do intend to explain.

My real question is, where does the nonsense end and the game start? I feel like there has been a lot more opening nonsense this game than in most, and this game is the one with post restrictions.

Here's the reasons for my suspicions of rsoultin.

I can understand wasting posts at the start of the game, but the post wasting continued for quite some time. Rsoultin's posts felt like they came later, more of as an afterthought, while it was after the point that nonsense posts had any value in at least starting the conversation. By the time rsoultin first posted, we had Robik wasting five posts, VayneAuthority voting for Oatsmaster, two vanilla town claims, and a cop claim. Plenty of random things to start the game, no more is needed. And then comes this wonderful post.
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken

like buildings


and people


a likely story

-rolls around the thread-

ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy?
Rsoultin isn't saying anything at all here, and she isn't making a joke or an interesting comment. "Rolling around the thread" and discussing happiness feels a bit out of place, though I'm bad at tone reads. My point is that I expect rsoultin to be sensible enough to conserve posts to some degree, and I don't see that here. Thus, my vote communicated the simple message of "step it up and play the game". Rsoultin shared a small number of game-related thoughts, and I removed my vote for now.

I know that many people have made useless posts, I just think rsoultin looks more suspicious for it because she is sensible enough not to and she started doing so well after everyone else did. I am very interested to see where rsoultin goes from here.

Thoughts?


A riddle for you, KSC...now what could possibly be the scum motivation for that sequence? xP

@Superbia...why don't you read, lovely? "Overly defensive"? lol...I had five points, one of which was a half-defense/half-snark and the other four reasons that I thought the progression and Trfel's post were scummy.

Also, since this comes up every game...I work. I will be gone for big chunks of the day because of it. Deal with it.


What is the reason? I'm genuinely asking


You don't think it's at all strange that Trfel, who can be seen attempting to generate conversation and direct scumhunting in our newbie game together that just finished (all my games are in my profile for everyone's convenience), chose to vote and unvote in silence and only bothered to post or explain himself after two votes were on him?

His explanation for his behavior was weak, his follow-up post looked like cya to me, and now he's disappeared again...if any of you know Trfel or have played with him at all, tell me this looks like a town!Trfel to you with a straight face lol
You yourself stated in the obs chat that my leading town was outside of my normal play, don't make me dig up the quote. You know very well that I prefer to play a more backseat analyst role.

Maybe I vanished because real life came up? Maybe I went after you because I thought you were scum? Maybe I remember that in my game as mafia, you caught me on my second post for making a bad read? It would be the stupidest thing ever for me to make a "bad" read on you, since I figure you would probably notice?


What you demonstrated last game, Truffle-wuffle, was that when the thread wasn't going in the direction you thought that it should be, you stepped up and tried to guide it in the right direction. You complained about trolling and wasting posts in a post-restricted game, yet just silently voted a random person instead of trying to provide that direction.

I've never said it's impossible that you're town, and I've even mentioned that one of my reservations (albeit WIFOM) is that it seems dumb to target me and gain my attention after your first scum game...that said, your first post was a justification for the silent voting you were being voted for. At which point you had to take a stance on me and it definitely couldn't be "town". So -shrugs-

Prove you're town to me, Truffle.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 28 2015 18:54 GMT
#454
lololol

the irony in this game >< eh, personally I think a reroll is probably the most fair way to approach it now
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 28 2015 18:57 GMT
#456
On March 01 2015 03:51 KelsierSC wrote:
Does anyone have anything to say on my oats stuff?


It seemed solid to me when you presented it? I don't know that I'd vote him, though...I really just have a tough time reading him in general. He has a way of seeming quite logical to me in his explanations after the fact and I really do have a weakness for logical explanations lol ><

But yeah I totally did feel that the "this is too easy" post was unwarranted, and scumreading someone after saying their accusations were valid seems contradictory. You're right about that.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 28 2015 19:01 GMT
#459
On March 01 2015 03:58 KelsierSC wrote:
Trefl,oats ,superbia scumteam inb4 reroll.

Seriously start the game again


+1

At least Trfel and superbia...oats I'm not as sure on. The sad part is I had this before ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 28 2015 19:29 GMT
#478
asdgf

SEE TRFEL ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS PROVE YOU WERE TOWN TO ME lol ><

eeeehhhh I may not confirm...the jack of all trades game is starting soon lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 28 2015 19:40 GMT
#491
lol nah I won't ruin y'all's game just cause I suck at playing two at once

/confirm

but if I suck more than usual this game it's y'all's fault xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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