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On February 22 2015 03:38 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2015 03:32 Koshi wrote:On February 22 2015 03:30 geript wrote:On February 22 2015 03:26 Koshi wrote:On February 22 2015 03:24 geript wrote:On February 20 2015 07:48 Kurumi wrote:We're going 88 miles per hour I know, this is quite unexpected. Arkham Asylum was a great game. It really was dark and gritty, full of great plays, awesome with Palmar's Joker comics by the end of the game. Our game-wide IRC convos. Two threads at once both being very important to be a part of. There was a guy called notasmurf. Notasmurf has devised a great plan. Plan I have reused. Plan I believe has worked once again. Say hello to Operation Honeypot. I have set up five quicktopics before the game started. I would've used them differently as scum but it wasn't as sharp as the town version. Only one of them had four people including me, rest was three including me. Two quicktopics have been compromised. Those two are: VisceraEyes, LightiningStrike and geript, Oatsmaster. In both of them there is one person that should not get an access to the QT. Snickers never accessed his to my knowledge. Showtime boys. Why were you sharing QTs with anyone? I don't care that there are three of you and I have only one too much. Maybe your partner is Onegu, who has not accessed my qt either. This post from Kurumi. Doesn't it look bad? No it doesn't al all. He could have believed it as town, got smashed back to reality and left the thread in disappointment. Or he could've been mafia and got disappointed because I dreamcrushed his push. Like 1 good or even ok post doesn't make someone town. Especially not a vet. What push? You said he didn't push anything at all after that post and you found that scummy? The push that operation fail pot served any purpose. And no, he specifically pushes me after that post despite me being the only person of the 4 to emphatically prove he's an idiot or scum. Like I don't get why you guys even found that push to be towny at all. Like it's clearly something planned prior to the game and can be used by any side.
How many times do I have to tell you that I don't think Kurumi is town.
Like...
How many fucking times?
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geript. Can you look into the thread and townread 1 out of snickers/lian/sl ? They made posts.
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I agree that Snickers is town.
You don't think it is useful the thread knows why? Everybody wants to lynch Snickers. And you keep it for yourself?
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I agree. Liancourt needs to step it up D2.
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Snickers, who are your top 3 scumreads? Only the names are fine.
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Scumreads:
geript:
This guy needs to die tomorrow. For following reasons:
1) geript said he talked with Eden for 2 hours. I don't believe this, and I think it is a lie that geript invented to protect Eden. I believe this because of 3 reasons. The first is that Eden said he had about Kurumi as town in his last readpost, this is odd when he talked 2 hours with geript about this. The second reason is that geript said that he townread Eden because both he and Eden had similar reads after the 2 hour talk, which is again not true because Eden said Kurumi was town. The third reason is that when I asked geript about what they talked about during this 2 hour period geript couldn't remember anything, he had to waffle around for 5 minutes because rayn and me kept asking what they talked about and geript couldn't remember.
This was a big lie to protect a buddy. I cannot believe that they really talked for 2 hours. I just can't.
2) geript scumslipped on TS. geript always had Eden as 100% town. He kept repeating Eden was 100% town on TS. It was a "mystical read". But I was convinced Eden was scum and talked about it with rayn and ignored geript. When rayn was convinced that Eden was scum and it was looking that Eden was going to get lynched geript said this: "You guys are going to lynch me when Eden flips scum aren't you". This is a very strange line of thought because geript was 100% town on Eden.
3) geript wants to lynch Kurumi based on what? Pure meta. I believe Kurumi is town. First of all, because Kurumi made a good post about Eden early on. It is a bit lost between the stuff on LS but it is a good post. That entire post is good. Secondly, I do not believe scum!Kurumi would kept going on about the QTs. Because scum!Kurumi would know that what he is typing is bullshit. It looked way more like town!Kurumi desperately keeping his big idea alive. And a third point is that Kurumi isn't really playing for a team, if I look at his posts it looks like he plays solo, and the guy got a history for ragequiting when the game is not fun for him. That might be the case here after the fiasco with the QTs.
Now why does geript want to kill Kurumi?
Because Kurumi caught geript! Do not forget that Kurumi was on geript his ass. Not only for the QT thing, but also because of geript his posting. Remember that! Mafia likes to push the townies that want to kill them, because by pushing them nothing changes, they just keep voting mafia. It is less ideal for mafia to push townies that don't think they are scum.
4) geript isn't doing anything really. Like come on... What did he already do? But geript has put multiple hours into this game already. It isn't the same if somebody like liancourt got nothing to show for or somebody like geript has nothing to show for. geript has been around for hours and hours. Yet we do not see his lynchpool getting smaller.
I asked him who he wanted to lynch and he said "the same people like 20 hours ago"... But when I pressed him further he could suddenly see that sicklucker and Snickers were town... geript is not ACTIVELY solving this game.
sicklucker:
Listen to rayn, he is still mafia for all the reasons of D1.
Do not think because Eden his vote was on sl that sl is town. MAFIA DID THIS TO LOOK GOOD. THEY BUSSED EACH OTHER D1.
FUCK I HAVE NO TIME. But remember that if sl and eden were town. The third mafia might have tried to set up a town lynch. DESPERATELY. As in. Lie about 2 hours conversations and shit.
I have no time left. Fuck me. But believe me.
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Snickers is likely town: Here is a shitton of extra information for you people. He is trying to solve the game. He is paranoid. He is town.
Here is stuff on sl:
+ Show Spoiler +Original Message From Snickers: Doesnt that lead to a post by Geript? And here are my notes on ls from most of day one. 1. "Shitty reader or shitty precedent". I think it I was refering to his first post here but I did not see how a townie misreading stuff so easily/much. Or was he trying to sway town. 2.Oh shit. I almost forgot. I cant find the post but there was a post i thought could be a scum slip. Someone wrote " we he " doesnt look like a typo but the person left a thought in by mistake. I think it might be Sl or eden since I wrote in my notes. Ls:"scum slip with Eden" 3. "His list post had a lot of bs in it " I think somebody already pointed this out. It was really wishy washy. Oh yea i remember now I put Ls as town cause i thought eden was town. The scum slip made no sense if eden was town. 1. 2. and 3. all come from page before page 8 in the thread. Heres the rest from the thread and still chronologically in order by reflection on posts. "ls reads wrong and is defensive" "pm with koshi shows he thinks no one is mafia kinda" Thats all. Show nested quote +Original Message From Koshi: that is a post from you? Original Message From Snickers: I have been very busy and he wasnt my top concern. I have no clue if this is the right read but I felt like he has prty much been like LC not doing much. Also would it be ok to refer to edens post like this? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478192-office-mini-mafia?page=4#68Original Message From Koshi: Why is ls not mafia? Original Message From Snickers: Yea idk when day is coming but I am assuming six. So before then. Also I dont want to put my reads in the thread. My top 3 scum in order are. 1.Lc I just decided this from my recent case/post about him 2. Geript 3. So i was thinking Onegu was here but since that wouldnt really matter I am saying its a tie between Ve and kurumi. My reads seem to kind of be fucked. Like if kurumi is scum geript would maybe not be and vice versa. But there is only two mafia left. Original Message From Koshi: I don't think you should. Hmm. There is nothing in it that I didn't tell others. But I don't know. If they ever want to lynch you I think you should trow out everything you have. You were going to give me some information on geript btw. Can you do that now? Original Message From Snickers: So koshi if you die. Is there a straight yes or no answer of if I should ever post are pms or tell anyone about them? Original Message From Koshi: Ok. I think rayn or I will die most likely but geript actually thinks you are the doc. So who knows? But they can't kill you I think. Unless mafia is really hiding still. Because you are lynchbait to a lot of townies. Original Message From Snickers: Ok well I dont want to send out my thoughts on geript until day 2. Just in case I am the planned night kill. Would it be ok If I pmed you some simple things that I think geript did that are scummy. That way If i die you could just post the pm. and yea getting back to what you put in thread now. Original Message From Koshi:
Please play a good game bro.
I got you as possible town but a lot of people want to lynch you.
sicklucker/VE/rayn/oats all want to lynch you and personally I think that geript/sicklucker is the scumteam.
So play very good and make sure that you help town win this game.
You are like 4th on my lynchlist. But I feel strong about the first 2.
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Here is a lot of stuff on geript. He quotes on a strange way but read it and it makes sense, ask him questions if needed:
+ Show Spoiler +[23:25] == Koshi_ [webchat@109.132.49.250] has joined #Snickers
[23:31] == Snickers [webchat@dynamic-acs-24-101-59-29.zoominternet.net] has joined #Snickers
[23:31] <Snickers> hey koshi
[23:31] <Snickers> I am going to start blabering about geript cause time is short. Palmar confirmed.
[23:32] <Snickers> Am i in the right spot?
[23:33] <Snickers> From geripts filter.
[23:33] <Snickers> 9. Why do you think that?
[23:34] <Snickers> here he puts up two question I think they are not connected by agenda or flow. I wonder if anyone else thinks they are off too.
[23:34] <Snickers> 12. If you dont think
[23:35] <Snickers> this post reminds geript my posting style, he likes to read very specifically
[23:35] <Snickers> this is important later on
[23:36] <Snickers> 13. At first I was prty town on snicks seemed weird as fuck based on tone
[23:37] <Snickers> seemed weird as fuck based on tone (Sorry haha) also he already is talking about lynching and he is completly misreading me? Or is he swaying town
[23:38] <Snickers> 17. I have read a number of people
[23:38] <Snickers> Here i wasnt asking about the significance of first post I was asking about tone reads
[23:39] <Snickers> He seems to be swaying and now assuming he is town, he 100% loses his close reading abilities. People have been saying town geript can put presssure on yada yada but why would he fail to read closely here
[23:40] <@Koshi_> hmm hard to follow if you use postnumbers like that
[23:40] <@Koshi_> but it is ok
[23:40] <@Koshi_> Keep going and I read it.
[23:40] <Snickers> And now im not referring to any particular post but if you look at edens posts, eden mutilple times is telling me to give pms a chance but eden himself keeps saying how he think he wont use them? like wtf I am dissapointed i missed this
[23:40] <@Koshi_> I am making a case on geript atm in the thread.
[23:40] <Snickers> Sorry koshi but if I die i just want someone to have this info to post
[23:41] <Snickers> I will make a proper case if I live
[23:41] <@Koshi_> Keep going and we copy this log into the thread before deadline
[23:41] <@Koshi_> It's good stuff
[23:41] <Snickers> noooo
[23:41] <Snickers> not before deadline im trying to bait kill from geript
[23:41] <@Koshi_> 1 second before bro
[23:41] <@Koshi_> When they can't change anymore
[23:41] <Snickers> thanks for reminding me. Note to all playerss: Geript posted multiple times trying to get my role and acting like I was a pr.
[23:41] <Snickers> Oh ok
[23:42] <Snickers> Note to all players: Also I have been sending geript pms to act like I have been medic the way I think a geript scum would see me ass medic
[23:42] <Snickers> ill just repost what I sent him here
[23:43] <Snickers> Original Message From Snickers: So lets say person a is 100% the cop. If two scum are left, Would person a admit to being the cop and give his red check out. Hide nested quote - Original Message From geript: I would save one of Me/Koshi/Rayn/VE. They're all town and they have to shoot one of us. Like you should talk to us way more if I'm right and you are the medic. That said, the rb being gone only means that there's 1 mafia
[23:43] <Snickers> Ok that didnt work
[23:43] <Snickers> Just trust me haha
[23:45] <Snickers> Page 2 of Geript filter post 6: @kurumi I actually dont believe....
[23:45] <Snickers> Ok so easy way to look townie as shit would be prove kurumi wrong and I am fine with that.
[23:45] <Snickers> But I feel like he is shitting up the thread with how much he argues with kurumi
[23:46] <Snickers> Also this is a weak point but to look townie I would have done something similar. As soon as I saw kurums post I was thinking damn if I was scum I would be disproving this shit and trying to push kurumi.
[23:46] <Snickers> I still have no clue what to think about kurumi
[23:47] <Snickers> Lol koshi if you were mafia you could totally fuck me by killing me and not posting this at deadline ahah
[23:48] <@Koshi_> You can also post it bro
[23:49] <@Koshi_> jsut do it on minute 59
[23:49] <Snickers> haha yea
[23:51] <Snickers> So yea time is running out If i do die I would try to find that scum slip if i where you. And yea geript missing that Eden fuckup at the start of the game is extra bad if he was still around doing close reading hard to prove that
[23:52] <Snickers> page 4 number 14
[23:52] <Snickers> Here is the list for d1 lynch candidates
[23:54] <Snickers> limiting shit down and he mentions Onegu is lynch bait? Well everyone said I was wrong for saying this so....... I am not on the list cause geript is reading me medic
[23:54] <Snickers> His next post kinda shows that in retrospect haha
[23:55] <Snickers> Also another note
[23:56] <Snickers> how the hell is a town geript reading me medic. Like he approached me first about being medic so then I started to act like I was but I dont see how a townie sees me as medic in this game
[23:58] <Snickers> Geript seems to have fallen off a lot like yea its a pm game but I just see close reading which went to trying to look townie/shitting up the thread
[23:58] <Snickers> and saying people they are wrong which is what I do
[23:58] <Snickers> gonna try to find scum slip about Eden and ls in on min
[23:58] <@Koshi_> Ok I am putting this all in spoilers
[23:58] <@Koshi_> This is the last thing.
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Solve this game. Make liancourt do things.
DON'T BE LAZY
DO NOT LYNCH ONEGU UNLESS YOU HAVE FULL ROLECLAIMS.
MATHS SAY THAT ONEGU IS LIKELY TOWN.
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##vote geript
rayn you are a sexy bastard.
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Ok. My vote stays on geript.
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I hope you aren't playing with me.
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VE it is your job to see if geript is town. And that there is merit in this kurumi thing. I can't do that.
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We got 3 people not playing the game and I am fine where I am.
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It is 6 am and I am really tired. Want to chat quickly or?
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I took VE his advice and reread the chatlog with rayn. And rayn said this:
[16:04] <raynpelikoneet> after me and ve voted eden, geript goes to sicklucker hard. when the next big switch to eden happens geript just gives up and votes for kurumi, not even pushing sicklucker any more
[16:05] <raynpelikoneet> yeah okay that makes sense
I have been trying to make geript say why sicklucker is mafia the entire night. (And I asked sicklucker a million times why geript is mafia.) But they never give me an answer. Or not a good answer. geript got sicklucker as town now.
But then I look at the voting thread and I see this:
On February 21 2015 04:47 geript wrote:
##unvote
##vote sicklucker
Why did this happen? Why did he vote sl?
And why can't geript give me 1 reason why sicklucker is mafia?
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On February 22 2015 14:22 LightningStrike wrote:
I was just asking because I was staying up for another game and thought we could chat.
nha I am off to bed. Try to have a chat with Liancourt. He needs to play.
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Original Message From sicklucker:
In most likely order
Snicker
kurimi
lian
geript
ve
oats
ls
something
like
that
Why are you suddenly so sure geript is town?
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What if I told you that Kurumi is greenchecked?
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This doesn't change your view on geript at all?
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This is how this game will go sicklucker.
+ Show Spoiler +We lynch geript.
We copcheck liancourt. If he is green↓
We lynch you.
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