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Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
February 25 2015 03:29 GMT
#1426
So to prove you wrong I knew that ff was the medic last night. i woulda killed him and then just act like someone was trying to frame me. I am prty sure i never even asked koshi unless it involved a grand plan but then koshi just told me.

Its all wifom. start making an actual case or you are losing ve. Yea make your first case day four into the thread smooth.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
February 25 2015 03:45 GMT
#1427
So to further prove i am town and to get rid of more doubt. I just told ls that if we go through lynching LC we need to check me not oats.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
February 25 2015 03:53 GMT
#1429
Thats if we are following plan koshi which I think we are.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
February 25 2015 03:54 GMT
#1430
No ve you dont understand the plan. In the plan I am 100% town.

Second thing is geript was even talking about how the green check is useless. More bad play from you plz continue.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
February 25 2015 03:56 GMT
#1431
On February 25 2015 12:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2015 12:45 Snickers wrote:
So to further prove i am town and to get rid of more doubt. I just told ls that if we go through lynching LC we need to check me not oats.

THAT DOESN'T PROVE ANYTHING AS LONG AS THE GODFATHER IS STILL ALIVE

-.-

You probably are town and just really wrong about me. I just hope we lynch the GF so you'll get off my dick. Like you keep on pushing and pushing and pushing on me like you KNOW I'm scum, but there's a fucking green check on me. A FUCKING GREEN CHECK! The very thing you're trying to prove your towniness through right here in this post HAS ALREADY HAPPENED TO ME AND YOU'RE STILL ON MY FUCKING NUTS!

SHUT UP Snickers. You're being impulsive and ridiculous if you're town - your confirmation bias is making you say really wrong things and you really just need to think about something else.


This is just 100% wrong in plan koshi. Do it out on paper. Assume me town FF and LS.

Its not the same.

I am not bragging i will be the green check. I am saying I found out how to make plan koshi more fool proof and koshi would 100% agree with me.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
February 25 2015 03:58 GMT
#1433
So what have we found it. Koshi would agree with and koshi would most likely not agree with you. Wow look what happens when you put effort into this game. If you are town start putting effort into it.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
February 25 2015 03:59 GMT
#1435
Yea it does prove I am town further. I just pointed out how to make plan koshi percentage wise more effective. I cant be roleblocker now I just screwed myself. I could be the gf tho.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
February 25 2015 04:00 GMT
#1436
So its two fold. One I just improved the plan. Which its been public knowledge for 5 hours and no one else has figured this out.

Two. I can only be the gf now not a rb. That cuts its in half lol.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
February 25 2015 04:05 GMT
#1437
And plus koshi did not want to go by statistics only for a lot of the plan but if we did, I am prty sure lynching you ve would lead to a statistically better plan.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
February 25 2015 04:09 GMT
#1438
Yea it would. We could lynch into you or sl and it would be statistically better. It would leads to a 50% better chance of auto win.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
February 25 2015 04:14 GMT
#1439
But why do did not mention that to koshi? A. He died and it was too complicated then.

B. its kind of a bad play.

C. I would have if I was scum cause it makes me better off but i didnt lol. so what does that make me? town
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
February 25 2015 04:25 GMT
#1441
If mafia thought it was me why didnt I die? Koshi > Medic ??? the cops checks are stilll useful in this game and matter more now that he is guranteed for another day. Thats just an objectively bad play by them.

And I am 99.99% sure ls knew it was ff.

I dont even know who he saved I am assuming ls.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
February 25 2015 04:33 GMT
#1445
if we are following plan koshi and lc is town. We lynch oats cause he is 100% mafia. Then its between you and ve.

And lets assume we dont go through with plan koshi.

If we are lynching lc and he becomes gf its autowin so we dont even need more checks just no get modkilled.

if we lynch lc and he is rb , checks don t matter.

So checks only matter if lc is vt. Maybe that is why they killed koshi instead of medic. Like this is actually plausible because lc was prty much getting lynched today.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
February 25 2015 04:34 GMT
#1446
No its wifom. That not my reasons lol.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
February 25 2015 04:35 GMT
#1447
If i seriously need to give the town reasons to follow plan koshi that is sad. Dont make me sad.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
February 25 2015 04:46 GMT
#1449
idc about my image. But i am probably going to afk till LC gets lynched.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
February 25 2015 05:24 GMT
#1450
sure.

http://webchat.freenode.net/

Channel is
Koshi



Original Message From Snickers:
can we get into a quick topic tho?

Hide nested quote -
Original Message From Koshi:
We will indeed see what happens tomorrow. We still have a misslynch left. What do you think of checking either Oats, VE or FF and then lynch liancourt tomorrow?

Or should we check liancourt and if he turns green lynch into FF, VE or Oats?


One out of FF, VE or Oats is the doc btw So that makes it even better. I am not going to tell you yet, but after the night I will. I do not think you are scum but you might be fooling me. If you are scum you got me pocjeted though .

But I also don't think VE or Oats is scum. FF might be.

I really think it is liancourt and sicklucker. But I also really thought it was geript lol.........



I think this game is not as bad as it seems on first sight. It is a bit less active but a lot of people have been talking a lot in PMs. The cop and doc are just hiding a bit. LS is not really a game solving pushy player but if you PM him he will talk with you.



Original Message From Snickers:
okay koshi sorry but this post is super confusing. koshi i just saw you are here start a quick topic wiht me

ok koshi this game is going no where without me and you. If we both die what is going to be the saving grace the cop checks? me you ls and who ever is the medic need to talk this out tomorrow in a quick topic. That will leave four people who can be mafia. We need to all be 100% truthful and no funny shit cause town loses this game in any scenario if we dont 100% trust each other. If we are all town and lying we are not going to solve this game at this rate. If one of us is scum or if two of us is scum who cares. We were dealt people who dont feel like putting effort into this game and that is what lead us to this shitty situation. excluding ls cause he is the cop. What the hell has Ve, oats, Lc or sicklucker done in this game. I dont see it. Maybe they are in pm land doing a ton of shit and are just paranoid but they arnt pushing the thread forward. I seriously have read all of their filters multiple times and i dont see shit. Oats hasnt pushed anyone. He has just askes simple question over simple question again and again. Lc has literally done one thing of value in his whole 100+ hours in this game? and how the hell is not lynched. I accept losing this game if some magical way you are scum and some way the medic and cop is lying or one of us is. We dont have options. Like seriously how the hell was lc not lynched yesterday am i completly out of the loop on something. Ve has just shitted up the thread constantly and made shitty comments. Sicklucker has been so passive. He is taking a joyride in the thread.

I am probably getting killed at night like I dont see why mafia would not kill me. They know who the cop is. If I dont get killed that would be the 10th WTF moment in this thread so far.

* I was typing this. I am leaving this in here cause some is good but i will do the exmaple below
Me you, ls and someone really need to start talking about the outcomes of the second night kill. If i get shot, that means as long as the medic stays on the cop, we got lylo with 5 people left starting day four. Worst case scenarios, you and the cop or the medic and the cop will be left. ( assuming we got through with the 100% trusting each other plan) . We will have three checks. I am praying to god that the n1 check is on someone still alive. that means we can get two more checks. If one red shows up then bam we got a mafia. If they are all green this is where we are at. Assuming that onegu is the medic even thogh im 99% he is not. We got to get four people. we eliminate two threw lynch. We can control the lynch. We can tell the other two town to trust us. So we get rid of Ve and oats.(easier said than done) That leave us with lc and sl you/onegu (only one), the cop and

*

example. I get lynched.

we start day three with 7 people left. 3 will be confirmed town.

Original Message From Koshi:
It's ok tell it to the thread

Original Message From Snickers:
so i am trying not to avoid voting cause i think that would make me look like i cared about this game. But people need to consolidate. Last night sl told me he was going to stop talking to me and go read filters. If he doesnt mention something specific about filters i would be worried. He may have said something about in the thread, idk just something to look out for. He hasnt rly said he is confused so idk he should be pushing someone or pointing out something.

Original Message From Koshi:
It's fine.

do you think geript is mafia?

I think I am convinced by him being a giant dick.

Original Message From Snickers:
I tried to make it believable but did not want to piss kurumi off do he stopped playing. And I think it matches up with my prior shit. I didn't say a save kinda forgot but idk if it would help. Think it woulda been worse

Original Message From Koshi:
He is fine with it. You can claim medic. He wont cc.

Original Message From Snickers:
I think it would be a really good play for me to claim medic. Can you run this by the actual medic so when I claim he doesn't cc in the thread?

Original Message From Koshi:
True. But we can use another channel next time.









I was the one who said that sl told us on TS that he wanted to be checked and I believe sl to be the godfather. VE thinks that as well.


I send the PM to LIGHTENINGSTRIKE not to ls. Never make the mistake sending the wrong messages btw




Original Message From Snickers:
ok koshi sorry for being annoying. I am prob not putting anything else into the thread until the day post. We will see who gets killed or what. I remember somebody said that they thought x was the godfather because he said the "godfather" said to check him and he will show up town.( in a skype call or something) I think the person who said that might of flipped town. If that person was town we lynch into the "godfather" (if x is infact ve or oats) and then check the other? I will try to find this too. I need some confirmation that you actually sent sl that post. I need sl to post it back to me before the night ends. Also if you want me to believe you about ff shouldnt he send it to me too and you send it to him?

Other than that maybe useful god father slip, I trust the plan.
Hide nested quote -
Original Message From Koshi:
Damned I got a d/c from IRC. I can't get back on. Strange.

Original Message From Snickers:
can we get into a quick topic tho?

Original Message From Koshi:
We will indeed see what happens tomorrow. We still have a misslynch left. What do you think of checking either Oats, VE or FF and then lynch liancourt tomorrow?

Or should we check liancourt and if he turns green lynch into FF, VE or Oats?


One out of FF, VE or Oats is the doc btw So that makes it even better. I am not going to tell you yet, but after the night I will. I do not think you are scum but you might be fooling me. If you are scum you got me pocjeted though .

But I also don't think VE or Oats is scum. FF might be.

I really think it is liancourt and sicklucker. But I also really thought it was geript lol.........



I think this game is not as bad as it seems on first sight. It is a bit less active but a lot of people have been talking a lot in PMs. The cop and doc are just hiding a bit. LS is not really a game solving pushy player but if you PM him he will talk with you.



Original Message From Snickers:
okay koshi sorry but this post is super confusing. koshi i just saw you are here start a quick topic wiht me

ok koshi this game is going no where without me and you. If we both die what is going to be the saving grace the cop checks? me you ls and who ever is the medic need to talk this out tomorrow in a quick topic. That will leave four people who can be mafia. We need to all be 100% truthful and no funny shit cause town loses this game in any scenario if we dont 100% trust each other. If we are all town and lying we are not going to solve this game at this rate. If one of us is scum or if two of us is scum who cares. We were dealt people who dont feel like putting effort into this game and that is what lead us to this shitty situation. excluding ls cause he is the cop. What the hell has Ve, oats, Lc or sicklucker done in this game. I dont see it. Maybe they are in pm land doing a ton of shit and are just paranoid but they arnt pushing the thread forward. I seriously have read all of their filters multiple times and i dont see shit. Oats hasnt pushed anyone. He has just askes simple question over simple question again and again. Lc has literally done one thing of value in his whole 100+ hours in this game? and how the hell is not lynched. I accept losing this game if some magical way you are scum and some way the medic and cop is lying or one of us is. We dont have options. Like seriously how the hell was lc not lynched yesterday am i completly out of the loop on something. Ve has just shitted up the thread constantly and made shitty comments. Sicklucker has been so passive. He is taking a joyride in the thread.

I am probably getting killed at night like I dont see why mafia would not kill me. They know who the cop is. If I dont get killed that would be the 10th WTF moment in this thread so far.

* I was typing this. I am leaving this in here cause some is good but i will do the exmaple below
Me you, ls and someone really need to start talking about the outcomes of the second night kill. If i get shot, that means as long as the medic stays on the cop, we got lylo with 5 people left starting day four. Worst case scenarios, you and the cop or the medic and the cop will be left. ( assuming we got through with the 100% trusting each other plan) . We will have three checks. I am praying to god that the n1 check is on someone still alive. that means we can get two more checks. If one red shows up then bam we got a mafia. If they are all green this is where we are at. Assuming that onegu is the medic even thogh im 99% he is not. We got to get four people. we eliminate two threw lynch. We can control the lynch. We can tell the other two town to trust us. So we get rid of Ve and oats.(easier said than done) That leave us with lc and sl you/onegu (only one), the cop and

*

example. I get lynched.

we start day three with 7 people left. 3 will be confirmed town.

Original Message From Koshi:
It's ok tell it to the thread

Original Message From Snickers:
so i am trying not to avoid voting cause i think that would make me look like i cared about this game. But people need to consolidate. Last night sl told me he was going to stop talking to me and go read filters. If he doesnt mention something specific about filters i would be worried. He may have said something about in the thread, idk just something to look out for. He hasnt rly said he is confused so idk he should be pushing someone or pointing out something.

Original Message From Koshi:
It's fine.

do you think geript is mafia?

I think I am convinced by him being a giant dick.

Original Message From Snickers:
I tried to make it believable but did not want to piss kurumi off do he stopped playing. And I think it matches up with my prior shit. I didn't say a save kinda forgot but idk if it would help. Think it woulda been worse

Original Message From Koshi:
He is fine with it. You can claim medic. He wont cc.

[quote]

Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
February 25 2015 05:32 GMT
#1451
If I was mafia, killing rayn when he townread me and I knew who cop was and I knew doc was mia or on me, I would have never let the cop survive.

I can't get back on. I will try to find another chat client. I am at work and irc is blocked.

Original Message From Snickers:
lol koshi are you playing me... but seriously we have this game as long as no one else gets modkilled and the 1% chance of perfect shit lining up does not happen. Send me another if you can

(no topic set)
[03:29] == Snickers_ [18653b1d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.101.59.29] has joined #Koshi
[03:29] <Snickers_> ok koshi how much time do you got about?
[03:30] <@Koshi> I just started working so I got 9 hours
[03:31] <Snickers_> okay just hear me out then
[03:31] <Snickers_> lets assume i get killed tonight
[03:32] <Snickers_> for example purposes i am calling ff the medic
[03:32] <Snickers_> oh yea can u be 100% serious with me who ls checked day one and what it came back as?
[03:33] <Snickers_> that leaves you ff and ls confirmed town. There is two mafia left between lc ve oats and sl
[03:34] <Snickers_> lets say we lynch oats and he comes up vt and in the night they kill you
[03:35] <Snickers_> that leaves us with ff and ls confirmed town. lc ve and sl have two mafia in them
[03:35] <Snickers_> if sl was really the green check
[03:36] <Snickers_> then the cop checks ve
[03:36] <Snickers_> so we have three confirmed towns there
[03:36] <Snickers_> if ve turns up green
[03:37] <Snickers_> I have this game solved
[03:37] <Snickers_> if me you ls and ff are confirmed town
[03:38] <Snickers_> ve or sl. One is town one is mafia
[03:38] <Snickers_> lc is def mafia then
[03:39] <Snickers_> now this is assuming sl or ve is godfather
[03:39] <Snickers_> fuck idk
[03:39] <Snickers_> maybe not
[03:41] <Snickers_> if we lynch lc
[03:42] <Snickers_> lets assume ve is the godfather
[03:44] <Snickers_> then ve is either killing ff , ls or sl
[03:44] <Snickers_> if he kills sl its auto win
[03:44] <Snickers_> so worst case scenario, we still got a 33% auto win
[03:44] <Snickers_> assuming me you ff and ls are the town circle
[03:45] <Snickers_> if ve kills ff
[03:46] <Snickers_> then its ls sl and ve left
[03:46] <Snickers_> ls is proven
[03:46] <Snickers_> so sl will vote for ve
[03:46] <Snickers_> if ve tries to kill ls
[03:46] <Snickers_> the medic protected
[03:46] <Snickers_> we go into the next day with ve
[03:48] <Snickers_> ve ff sl and ls are there
[03:48] <Snickers_> that could end in a lost
[03:48] <@Koshi> Hmm
[03:48] <Snickers_> so ff needs to purposely save scum
[03:48] <Snickers_> like koshi this plan
[03:49] <Snickers_> even in its worst case scenario
[03:49] <Snickers_> is still really fucking likely to win us this game
[03:49] <Snickers_> i will seriously write out all of the possibilites
[03:49] <Snickers_> and then we can from theere
[03:49] <@Koshi> I know. I did the same.
[03:50] <@Koshi> But it isn't a sure win yet
[03:50] <Snickers_> like think about it koshi
[03:50] <Snickers_> if you are town
[03:50] <@Koshi> They have a rolecop. So they might just know that you are not the doc
[03:50] <Snickers_> thats a good point
[03:50] <@Koshi> If they shoot FF today. (he is doc)
[03:51] <Snickers_> what does that mean?
[03:51] <@Koshi> Then we will still have Oats/sl/VE/liancourt as possible scum
[03:51] <@Koshi> And we can only lynch 1 time wrong
[03:51] <Snickers_> yea so only go out with this plan if i die
[03:51] <@Koshi> I really don't think Oats or VE are scum though and we just lynch lian and sl
[03:52] <@Koshi> But w.e
[03:52] <@Koshi> Let me PM what I want to do.
[03:52] <Snickers_> k
[03:53] <Snickers_> for what you sent me earlier i would check oats and lynch lc
[03:54] <Snickers_> so koshi as far as you know this is what is real. FF is the medic. Sl is the cop
[03:54] <Snickers_> ls is the cop
[03:54] <Snickers_> like if ff dies and he turns up not the medic i know it will be bad for me haha
[03:54] <@Koshi> yeah this pm is what I will send ls
[03:55] <@Koshi> hmm? ff is medic lol
[03:55] <Snickers_> ls or sl?
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
February 25 2015 05:55 GMT
#1461
Yea its plan Snickers when koshi sent it out to the 3 of us and he typed it. I just did a 100% objectively good revision to it if we do follow it that koshi missed. And SL try to read better you dont understand.

afk till lynch. I would afk till night kill but since people would prob be too lazy or too w/e to actually interpret it I have to come back sooner.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
February 25 2015 05:57 GMT
#1464
On February 25 2015 14:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2015 14:50 sicklucker wrote:
But ya I dont really feel like doing anything either untill lian dies or starts playing

What you have to take note of here is how hard Snickers wants everyone to get onboard with "plan koshi" which is in fact "plan snickers" and ends in lynch townVE. How Snickers tries to confirm himself as town with a greencheck while simultaneously pushing VE who has a greencheck on him. How Snickers tries and fails to prove that VE is mafia repeatedly, and has all game long.

That's what is important to remember about this point in time right now.



if this town can literally not see how Ve is lying here there is something wrong. I accept losing this game. That or really just doesnt understand me and he is too confident.
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