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On February 19 2015 14:10 IAmRobik wrote:
Hey SK, you HAVE to shoot mafia tonight or you can't win so you better Fucking reread the thread and get some good fucking scumreads
So we MLed tonight....
9 v 4/1 - we MLed
8 v 4/1 - if SK shoots town
6 v 4/1 - D3
9 v 4/1 - we MLed
8 v 4/1 - if SK shoots scum
7 v 3/1 - D3
Neither situation is great, if SK shoots the scum, we have to still lynch correctly unless I'm missing something.
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On February 19 2015 14:10 LightningStrike wrote:
What the hell Rayn was playing much worse than his normal town game fuck. Back to square 1 for me.
Yep, all my posts on him, and multiple people were scumreading him.
I don't know how a scum Palmar plays.
I suspected Breshke but I admitted before that was my weakest read, maybe Damdred's slot....man I don't know.
My tinfoil hat....well let's not go tinfoil hat in this situation...just fucking gah.
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On February 19 2015 14:12 Blazinghand wrote:
so this jsut increases my convication that we should have been lynching VA this whole time
BH, I don't want to be rude, but just stop. We're in a shite situation especially if SK shoots town again.
You absolutely need to start reading others. If VA actually IS scum, he's not the only one on the bloody scumteam. Please tell me you've at least tried to read others in this game independent of RNG.
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Tinfoil hat in me wants to say BH and Rasputin actually. Fuck, there I said it.
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On February 19 2015 14:22 IAmRobik wrote:
Why is rso tin foil?
Rayn was VT, he was scumreading her, also she was not as robust with the questioning like she normally is as town, although her scum game WAS much weaker than this. Thing is towards the end of her scum game she had quite a few people fooled.
I honestly need to filter dive her. It's a hunch, but again, tinfoil hat. I'm just a bit paranoid right now after this ML.
In general I just need to take a step back and re-evaluate.
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I'm going to hit the gym and then head to work....but like LS, step back and re-evaluate things. This just threw everyone off.
Inconceivable.
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Yeh, those night mechanics need to be rethought again. Superbia did scumread Rayn too.
I have no idea how he plays.
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Alright, well lemme think this over. Those of you in the States, good night. <3
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"Rayn is obviously not the cop" I want to say TMI, but then again Rayn had fakeclaimed and his redcheck is "maybe" mafia...
I've been very suspicious of Ritoky from the off.
Prplhz, I know Kelsier and I were onto him earlier and when I asked him why it appeared the way he was throwing his votes like he wanted to see what sticked...I don't recall a very good answer.
BH, without that claim, he'd be very close to the top of my scumlist. In a chat I had with him before this game, I remember asking him about his skill level, and he admitted he wasn't the best, etc, but he could hold his own, and I feel he's more capable a player than the way he's playing right now.
I just don't have the balance exp atm, and glancing through some setups in the database, there has been weird shit setups before but this is also my first Sentinel game, so I don't think it's productive for me to start boarding the host WIFOM train atm.
This is off the cuff - I am getting wrecked at work atm, on my phone. I'll be glancing at this thread and throwing thoughts as I remember them.
The other thing I want to explore is what was the vote count when Robik had his "Raynvalation". I'm not in a position atm to page through all of D2 picking the votes, but that needs to be looked at. He could have been trying to build cred when earlier he was trying to hammer Rayn for not solving the game when Palmar, Damdred and myself were on him.
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Superbia, I think I might know who the SK is. But we need that SK for the anti-swing and unless I failed in my alignment tally early this morning I don't want to risk him getting shot.
Or if he gets shot, does that KP resolve simultaneously?
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I read the OP, I cannot tell if KP resolves simultaneously.
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Yeh the whole mod thing threw me off. I don't know what to make of that, everyone was on the same assumption.
Blazinghand has been very anti-town, if he's town, I don't understand even with a mod interaction why he's not having the incentive to act town. He doesn't play these games very often, but I also don't know him as a player well. You'd think he'd be somewhat motivated, no?
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Does PoE here make sense? The five most anti-town players could be scum if everyone else is bleeding town? Are there more than 5 anti-town players? I'm not sure I'd put slam in that category.
Palmar, what is jumping out at you re: VA despite the meta read?
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But Rayn was acting so badly someone had to have been taking advantage of it, there had to have been an active scum somewhere in this mix.
Offhand, driving Rayn's lynch was Palmar, Damdred, Robik, myself at various points but I need to make sure I didn't miss anyone.
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Palmar, if you disregard mechanics, claims, etc, etc. to be fair BOTH BH and VA have been anti-town. Here are two questions.
1 What makes VA more anti-town/scum than BH on behaviour alone?
2 What are the chances of VA and BH double bussing each other and the rest of us assuming it's just town on town squabbles?
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I realise double bussing in general is not a good scum strategy, and it should be quite rare especially D1, but I think it's a justified question given that we're in mylo and both have been quite anti-town outside the whole mechanics thing.
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On February 19 2015 23:55 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2015 23:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Palmar, if you disregard mechanics, claims, etc, etc. to be fair BOTH BH and VA have been anti-town. Here are two questions.
1 What makes VA more anti-town/scum than BH on behaviour alone?
2 What are the chances of VA and BH double bussing each other and the rest of us assuming it's just town on town squabbles? BH has the modconfirm VA doesn't Also bh has like 12 pages of filter or something. VA has what... 3?
I know you said you don't read filters (or didn't read robik's or whatever)
Scum can adjust to spam the shit out of filter. There is disparity in quantity, but quality of both filters is shit tier.
I have asked BH countless times to provide reads/insights on other people. I have since read his PBPA, the stuff he throws out IS random, so I can understand why VA would be scummy.
I just cannot understand the lack of incentive from BH though if he is town and we're effectively in mylo.
So the modconfirm is the only thing that makes you think BH is town. Alright. I'm going to come back to this but need to explore others first.
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You're suggesting Palmar is scum, VA?
I'm not played with a scum Palmar before, ever.
He would fall under the tinfoil hat category for me atm, but could have been in theory an active scum helping drive the Rayn lynch.
What is jumping out at you?
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Diving back into work, but questions let me know.
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On February 20 2015 00:32 LightningStrike wrote:
Rsoultin: I know her pretty well and the last time she was Mafia she was reading very weird that entire game but this game she just been calling town and been standing her ground like she normally does <3
This scum read makes zero sense for a PoE even. Are you saying she's scum because she only has town reads? Because she's called scum at various points of the game.
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