On February 06 2015 11:19 Breshke wrote: so do you think koshi is town?
Idk this game is hard for me to figure out after those mod kills :| I should prod him when he's around.
So if you arnt sure about koshi what didnt you like about onegus case
Seems like OMGUS type of play from him because people were proding him for the last 24 hours for his case on Koshi being scum and honestly the case itself is meh like his thing about not remembering all the games and his sheeping the popular read which I just done myself tbh with you since I didn't case for his case and the fact he decided to just RNG his sheep is meh because the fact that if he wanted to sheep someone he should of picked someone else other than himself not RNG it.
How was it OMGUS when Onegu had been on Koshi for days? And what's actually wrong with his case? Don't just call it meh, quote it and dissect the parts you find unconvincing.
On February 06 2015 12:16 rsoultin wrote: Okay, budget and resume done. I'm in the thread if anyone wants to discuss anything, at least for the next hour or so.
Bresh, are you doing vote analysis?
I'm debating whether or not to wait for the weekend to reread and just look at the votes for tonight.
@Eden...USAF Staff Sergeant, so E-5. You're not that far off. It'll be 6 years in April.
oh, you are older than me. Lol
Obviously my recommendation is to catch up now instead of later. You have about a 0.001% chance of getting nightkilled, but you get an extra phase to interact with whomever else will be nk'd, and you never know, maybe the mafia will just mindgame us and shoot you. Get involved while you can.
Also I desperately need someone who doesn't go by rsoultin to smack me upside the head and call me a fucking idiot for scumreading her based on emoticon usage. I feel like this is utterly retarded and it's really troubling that no one has told me that to my face yet besides her. Obviously she's going to do that regardless so I really need someone to show they have a pulse and tell me that was fucking stupid and that I should never do it again.
Yeah I'm just gonna start by assuming Koshi is mafia and working out the rest of the game from there. I am sure there are plenty of worlds where he is town and does what he does, but the one world I feel like I'm actually in is one of the ones in which he's mafia. I felt pretty sure he was mafia through the end of the day and let myself be talked into lynching Onegu instead because I'm a donkasaurus rex
I'm not accusing him of having done it yet, but the comment that tipped me over toward Onegu was marv's comment that it was a "weird lynch" or "shocking lynch" or something. I'll find where he said it and read around that area because I'm sure I didn't just jump because of the opinion of someone who I knew wasn't going to vote for either wagon anyway and who was very loudly shouting down all of my correct reads at EOD.
Oh wait lol, it wasn't marv. He did say that one thing, but it was actually Holyflare that was loudly wanting me and others to kill Onegu and also not really commenting on Koshi from what I remember.
Dammit Holyflare why you gotta do this. Now I only got 2 townreads in this whole place and one of them is me!
Off the top of my head: - I don't think there's anything malicious to batsnacks's late switch. rsoultin makes a good observation that batsnacks's vote came a little too late to make it count, but given how chaotic the day was at the end (with multiple people not even knowing who had been lynched), it's entirely understandable that batsnacks might be mistaken in thinking that his vote would impact the lynch. - I'm struggling to see the mafia incentive for forming a wagon on Damdred at the last minute. marvellosity even started it as a claimed miller. Granted, claimed miller really doesn't mean anything... it's probably worthwhile to see why people got on this wagon, though. It came somewhat out of the blue. - Running with my thought from before that Koshi might be mafia, I actually feel like rsoultin could be mafia with him, because even though she declared intention to sheep me well in advance of EOD and even though I was very clear about wanting to vote between Onegu and Koshi, she didn't actually follow me until I moved off of Koshi and onto Onegu and even confirmed that I wasn't going back to Koshi. Associative reads and all, but this seems pretty damning since to my knowledge she didn't have much of a read on Koshi to that point (and thus no impetus to hesitate).
I also think LightningStrike might be town because he moved around near EOD. I know mafia were definitely in the thread since, to my knowledge, literally everyone was in the thread at EOD, and I know experienced mafia players know to be willing to move around at EOD as mafia to avoid getting caught for being too stiff and immobile there, but I'm not sure whether LightningStrike would have thought to make a move as mafia. It's not like anyone was gonna get on his case about being on sicklucker to end the day. And since we know he moved from a townie to a townie, there's not even any discernible impetus for the move from a mafia POV.
On February 06 2015 13:36 Holyflare wrote: LOOK AT THIS:
The clangers, what are they? THEY ARE FUCKING MOON BEINGS THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE, AWESOME AWESOME MOON BEINGS. RIGHT SO WHO WAS IT MADE BY? OLIVER
MOTHER FUCKING
POSTGATE
WHAT ELSE DID THIS SUAVE SON OF A BITCH MAKE?
ONLY IVOR THE FUCKING LEGENDARY ENGINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT DOESN'T STOP THERE THOUGH, DOES IT?????? HELL NO, HOLYFLARE, IT DOES NOT!!!!!!!!!!!
^ when you look closely at this beast of an engine you can quite clearly see the letters
M&L - RTCL, now I know what you're thinking! You're thinking "what the fuck holyflare, M&L - RTCL clearly stands for the Merioneth and Llantisilly Rail Traction Company Limited!" Right?
WRONG WRONG WRONG
That's just what oliver postgate wanted you to think, bear in mind the creative genius of this specimen of human perfection who came up with not ONLY the CLANGERS but also gems like IVOR THE ENGINE and NOGGIN THE NOG!!!!
we
have
to
go
deeper
at first I tried every combination of names I could think of, his name/age/location/sex/family members/schooling/wives and gf's/pet names/kinks
but NO, of course he was too intelligent to leave a clue so obvious! I began to piece it all together, at first it was just a collection of letters, anagrams, just fucking useless letters! That was until I began to see the truth. To see what the late Oliver Postgate truly was........... a mafia psychic.
The M&L - RTCL was a code that could only broken by someone who had surpassed the level of ordinary mafia veteran, I had to meditate on it... ponder.....what could they mean?? Then it hit me... I transcended the barrier of the game of mafia and foresaw what was coming
the M&L - Mafia & Lynches, it was a fucking CHEAT SHEET.... now I wondered if it just applied to a game that he played in the past, oh NO NO NO, Oliver Postgate was a mafia PSYCHIC... it had to be a future game! I used my super special transcendent algorithm to find the real answer to who was mafia and what order of lynches we'd pursue!
The first - R - it was clearly quite obvious, rsoultin, no question about it
The second - T - there was no t in the game? it was a test! using my algorithm it became quite a simple matter of copy and pasting though, T is the first letter of tit - who has tits? women! it didn't quite fit, the algorithm broke at that moment, it had to test my true knowledge rather than cheating for the cheat sheet! T - 20th in the alphabet, no go, there wasn't 20 people in the game
OR WAS THERE
I wondered why the game was particularly difficult, perhaps we were getting played, perhaps mafia was just afk, yet here it was as plain as day, the people we were playing against WERE HIDDEN IN NUMBERS NOT ON THE OP....... so I did some digging! Of course, Oliver Postgate had pulled through once against - T = twenty, twenty also begins with T, who else on the forum begins with T?
My search led me to the database where I had discovered numerous t named players
The 20th name of the 20th letter of the alphabet had played in 2 games beginning with T. TheAwesomeAll.
TL Mafia XLIII Town Vanilla Survived TL Mafia XL Mafia Vanilla Modkilled Day 3
Of course, this was a mafia lynch list so I instinctively knew to check his mafia game TL Mafia XL. It's no coincidence that he's played 2 games of mafia beginning with T which when multiplied by the number associated with the letter leads to 2x20 which is what? 40!!!!!!!!! WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE GAME??????? TL MAFIA 40!!!!!!!!!!
What the fuck did I find in this game? This prophecy. It was a large game with a large amount of people. I perused the list of names.... my heart skipped a beat... I knew it all along. The 20th letter of the alphabet's 20th player was the 20th slot of the 2x20th game. TheAwesomeAll
The anagram of theawesome all? Wholesome meat. Who eats wholesome meat? Bats that are carnivorous eat wholesome meat as a snack! Who is that? BATSNACKS
So there we have it. Batsnacks, Rsoultin were the first 2. Easy enough, this was just childs play!
The third and fourth were obviously combined - CL - CL, commonly known as chlorine, used in swimming pools and cleaning products, who likes to go swimming?????? QUITE CLEARLY AQUATIC ANIMALS..... SO I WONDERED WHO WAS AN AQUATIC ANIMAL IN THIS GAME? ON FIRST GLANCE NOBODY BUT THEN IT HIT ME. Oliver Postgate would not leave me something so obvious. I had to go deeper. I googled absolutely everyones name, even my own! I could be mafia you know??? Thankfully it was not the case, I'm as town as this town gets. Yet, interestingly enough I hit the jackpot.
BRESHKE. Albanian for... wait for it. ONLY A MOTHER FLIPPIN TURTLE UP IN THIS MOTHER FLIPPIN HOUSE.
OLIVER POSTGATE SOLVED THIS GAME MANY MANY MANY YEARS AGO AND LEFT ME HIS CLUES IN HIS MAGICAL WELSH TRAIN IVOR.
G FUCKING G
Breshke, Rsoultin, Batsnacks.
I mean I lol'd a bit, 7/10 I guess.
But that really didn't do anything for me bud. Think you can post this in a QT and show us later?
I also felt like Palmar's reasons for voting Damdred and staying there were really poor quality. His case was built on the falsehood that Damdred was not trying to move/develop discussion (when he clearly had made several attempts to do it) and that Damdred had been an asshole at one point, when he had been under fire the whole game and understandably got pissed off. And let's not forget that Palmar was needlessly antagonizing Damdred at the time - it's pretty bullshit and awful suspicious to me that Palmar needles at Damdred until Damdred doesn't want to interact with him anymore and then turns around and scumreads Damdred for shutting down. It certainly isn't something I can understand a townie doing.
The whole thing just reeks, and he didn't really do much else yesterday either.
if the vig does not shoot, we have 2 partially town-directed kills (2 lynches) if the vig shoots once we have 1 partially town-directed kill (1 lynch) and 1 totally town-directed kill (1 shot) if the vig shoots twice we have 1 partial and 2 total
plus breshke shooting confirms himself town if he's kept alive
i know extra discussion could be nice and all but i actually think i would rather the vig shoot.
On February 06 2015 13:59 Breshke wrote: If i talk to you about this now and mafia has a RB im just going to get wifomed tomorrow. I will take what you have said into consideration though but id rather we don't talk about it
Good call, just wanted to float the idea that it might not be strictly optimal to hold your shot. Mull it over and take the call.
On February 06 2015 13:59 Holyflare wrote: 3 rsoultin 7 Palmar 8 marvellosity 11 Koshi 13 justanothertownie
This is my poe list ^, assuming that breshke is a town vig and not a mafia vig which is still a big leap for me to make so there's either 2 mafia in this list or all 3
Think I can take marv out because he counter claimed miller when he didn't need to and he's been posting all game so that leaves rsoul/palmar/koshi/jat, if breshke IS a town vigi shooting jat would be the super optimum play imo because it could get us back into this game, rsoul I thought was mafia all game but she seems to actually be around and posting when she doesn't need to be and nobody else is around.... bit annoyingly afk when it matters though
jat completely wasted his vote on sl instead of switching to onegu like I'm sure he would have done if he was town and I was yelling about lynching someone because he knows how great I am at this game but instead he just wanted sl instead and when he was catching up he said nothing useful and yelled at people voting him to get off instead of solving the game, also the eden case where it said jat made a list and didn'tfollow it up was pretty ok
palmar has done absolutely shit all apart from push town damdred and is pretty much a waste of space in this game and I wouldn't really care if we lost because we shot him
koshi voted for onegu and is against breshke shooting although I remember him somewhere and i'm pretty sure it was him saying vigis should always shoot and imo it's optimal at this point in time anyway, he doesn't have any drive and he isn't really doing anything, he looked kind of ok at the start but isn't really playing the game at all so a giant ? and he COULD be towny one out of the 4 if rsoul is actually mafia
Based God Holyflare
This is literally where I am at with these 5 players, with the addition that I think Breshke is absolutely town vig. His logic for coming out when he did was real solid even if I'm starting to think he should shoot, and besides, I think it would be pretty stupid for mafia to fakeclaim vig in that spot and take the risk of there being a real vig ready to shoot him on sight.
I also feel like rsoultin is probably town. I think I've decided I'm gonna trust my gut on this too, because that's been the right call on so much of this game thus far. My brain keeps coming up with shit like the emoticon usage and the improper-order reasoning back in the first 6-7 hrs of the game, but whenever she responds or tries to get involved, heart says town. It's like with SL and the others I've said this about before, I don't think I could decidedly prove rsoultin is town in a debate but I got that gutfeelz man.
I'm gonna roll with LightningStrike being town based on my previous argument too, just so I have a reason down firm for why I think he's town. I don't have the gutfeelz to follow on this one but I think my argument actually works.
batsnacks... meh. I'm just gonna sheep you and others on him being town based on meta. Someone should link me to his scum games so I can see for myself but this does sorta match up to my town priors on him. And he did try to push Breshke where he could, I think. I don't think he let himself get shouted down like mafia might in his spot.
I would kill Koshi, JAT, Palmar, marv in that order. I really feel like an offhand comment I made a while back reflects on the game state right now:
On February 06 2015 07:54 Palmar wrote: rofl this is great, we're all so fucking bad at mafia
Frankly this might be the worst d1 in terms of talent level : production I've ever seen in a mafia game
It's true. How does a town with Holyflare, Palmar, marvellosity, Koshi, justanothertownie and I have such a clusterfuck of a Day 1? (No disrespect to the other players but the 5 in front of me are pretty good at this game.)
Because at least one and probably 2+ of them aren't town. Ezpz. Look at all the wagons that got pushed, aside from Koshi it was lynchbait or bullshit. Either all of those guys all decided to shit the bed this game or some of them are mafia, end of story.
On February 06 2015 14:17 Breshke wrote: Im not even sure why koshi is on top.
The way i see the votes on onegu is that rsoul was sheeping eden. LS was probably sheeping rsoul and eden and eden idk what eden was doing but he is town
I can't really remember why koshi was voting onegu i need to look back at it
LightningStrike sheeped rsoultin sheeped me sorta-sheeped Holyflare
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