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On March 03 2015 09:21 Damdred wrote:
How was it making RS look bad? I'm not exactly following what you mean?
I find it odd, if not scummy how Slam gets from "I don't care if you shoot Onegu" to "not being concerned who I shoot" as if he's making her look worse than what she's trying to convey. I could understand for example if he disagrees with an Onegu scumread but that's not how it read.
It's one post, and generally Slam posts don't jump out at me like that.
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EBWOP - It's not a strong read, but something that I noticed that seemed off.
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On March 03 2015 09:30 rsoultin wrote:
Basically a town slam helps town and a scum slam does not. Plus town slams are way more interesting and fun to play with than scum slams.
Yes I am tone/meta-reading him lol so take it as it is.
I'll be completely honest, I can't meta-read him for crap so I've just been taking him at face value which is why I scum-read him when something seemed off.
Last post was quite helpful though, so I'm not inclined to shoot him.
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Tube, how are you tracking people who are keeping open the option of shooting multiple people? Geript wanted to shoot me but pretty sure he was also looking at Onegu and Rayn to an extent.
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On March 03 2015 09:35 sicklucker wrote:
FF town. He literally rolls vt everygame and he furious
Thank goodness I was not the only one feeling this way. I made the same read earlier and quite a few people want to shoot me for it.
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Which means SL is probably town as well.
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On March 03 2015 09:43 Toadesstern wrote:##Shoot: Half the Sky agreed with (I think rayns?) idea that her early post was odd. She continues to make a lot of really, really crappy posts like: Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 09:36 Half the Sky wrote:
Which means SL is probably town as well. All in all, nothing like the shining beacon of towniness she was in last game. Leaning pretty heavy mafia right now, not only on lack of towniness but on actually being scummy the way she posts. ' ...
Might want to consider that was a conclusion from the previous post I was making.
On March 03 2015 09:36 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 09:35 sicklucker wrote:
FF town. He literally rolls vt everygame and he furious Thank goodness I was not the only one feeling this way. I made the same read earlier and quite a few people want to shoot me for it.
On March 03 2015 09:36 Half the Sky wrote:
Which means SL is probably town as well.
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On March 03 2015 09:43 Breshke wrote:
I also think tube is town not just for being the first to suggest the vote system but for actually compiling the votes and promising to do so again in the future. Feels like too much work for mafia.
I was actually going to disagree with this read Breshke because earlier he commented that he didn't have any reads in the first 20-odd minutes and now we're almost 2h into the game. He's doing something like that, you'd think maybe he'd have at least one read somewhere in there or some sort of observation on someone in the game.
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On March 03 2015 09:47 sicklucker wrote:
Hts whats it like to get tunnel everygame day1. Only I can feel your pain
Well here's the thing, I'm trying to sort out who's doing it for BS reasons, versus who would appear to be misguided. This isn't the first time I'm getting scumread by a load of people in the game when I'm town. The truth of the matter is, not everyone here knows how to read me, and I don't play entirely the same way each time I'm town, especially in a large game.
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Rasputin, I'd say if Koshi's play is similar to how he played D1 in Horn, he'd be a good candidate for a shot. From what I understand (and recall his play in Void) his town and scum metas are fairly distinct.
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And speaking of which, Tube, do you have any reads at this point in time?
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On March 03 2015 09:53 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 09:49 Half the Sky wrote:On March 03 2015 09:47 sicklucker wrote:
Hts whats it like to get tunnel everygame day1. Only I can feel your pain Well here's the thing, I'm trying to sort out who's doing it for BS reasons, versus who would appear to be misguided. This isn't the first time I'm getting scumread by a load of people in the game when I'm town. The truth of the matter is, not everyone here knows how to read me, and I don't play entirely the same way each time I'm town, especially in a large game. And how is that going for you?
Some people I'm able to read/conclude easier than others. Geript, I'm leaning town on, because he used a scum game where he coached me to interpret my opening, where I countered I had a similar approach in another more recent town game. I'm not sure atm if he's looking at my post-Void games, but he's using some reasonable logic, as our last game together was Void. Toad is also going to misread me largely because the game we were playing was IML and only 9 players, so I was more inclined to spam, easier to read, here I'm taking more time to read through everyone who's been posting. This is a similar play to what I did in Carol, another large game, where I took more time to process things.
Damdred on the other hand, his explanation is a little more muddled and his explanation, whilst it could have been townie, is LESS likely to have come from town.
Is it going well? Obviously tough when everyone's scumreading me, but I can get some decent idea of where people are coming from so I can offer some information. I had this same problem in Titanic in my last game, so I'm not sweating. I've been there.
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I'd have to agree with Toad as well.
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On March 03 2015 10:10 rsoultin wrote:
those shuriken are 1-shot?
if they're 1-shot then nah I don't really care about ninja
Unless I'm misreading the OP, I think they are 2-shot.
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I'm back, and catching up.
Re-reading the thread, I'm taking note of the people who normally are known to be spammers.
Robik hasn't posted much of anything of substance for instance. I don't understand his motivations for wanting to hang back when the type of conversation happening is more conducive to his relatively conversational game. I think it was geript himself who actually said a scumtell of his was him not posting so much, so Robik will go in the scum pile for me as well.
I too, would have also expected Kitaman to make some sort of observation popping in.
LS is likely town, from what I'm gathering from his few posts.
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Toad is reminding me much on the way he played in Hammertime. He's most likely town, as he's starting off relatively carefree (looking at his first 4-5 posts) and the question to Tubesock is coming off natural considering he doesn't know him (whereas I've played with both separately and I'd expect Tube to be making those elementary questions). The scumread on me is also following logically, since he has his expectation on how I should be playing, though I feel I've answered his concern there. Also his logic in arguing against the 3p campaign is pretty sound, and we're coming to the same conclusion on Kita as well.
To me disagreement on the Sandroba read doesn't jump out to me as alignment indicative since it's very possible you two could have very different interpretations of his play as town.
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I looked through YM's filter, being a smurf, obviously I cannot tell if the guy should be familiar with your play.
After playing with you in Titanic, if i recall right though, I don't like his interpretation of you keeping your reads open. It could be townie but inaccurate if this were a newer player but I'm highly doubting it. From what I recall your town game in Titanic, you did hand out a number of different reads based on your observations so I definitely don't think "you're keeping your options open" as scum. From what I recall of you, you aren't the big casemaker type when you give your reads, you only gave one in Titanic when you were effectively forced to.
Also the funny thing with YM is with his read on me is that he's clinging onto that opening without really paying attention to the rest of my content like others have. People asked me to give a read since I just spoke what was on my mind and this isnt' the first time that I'll say something and not necessarily post a conclusion in the same post as town. So where he's getting fabricated also looks like a stretch on his end.
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On March 04 2015 00:30 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm actually trying to be less townish this time around as that didn't seem to work out in Hammertime when I was confirmed town alongside you 24 hours in and got lynched for "I thought he'd do more" + "there was something else but I forgot"
Better not get lynched for being too townish and not living up to it this time around
Palmar scumread you for your scumhunting methods, IIRC, the fact that you were trying to PoE and as a result weren't coming up with any scumreads early enough. He was town and tunnelled on you, and we bowed to his pressure D2, which we shouldn't have. I didn't know your play any better otherwise I wouldn't have hammered you that game. Although considering most people here are scumread for not having scumreads, if that's the method you have normally used to find scum (PoE) I can completely understand why you've changed it since.
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EBWOP - For Toad, also the other reason you were hammered was because we did not have the votes for the other scumreads that some of us had about 40 mins from EoD.
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Rayn, I'd agree as well on YM.
What are your thoughts on Robik based on what he has posted so far? (anyone else can input as well)
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