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On January 18 2015 05:08 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 05:03 sicklucker wrote:On January 18 2015 04:23 mderg wrote: Considering that nobody is really doing anything you can see that scum is fine with me getting lynched.
I still think that we should sleep today. There's a chance that we can get some new information after the night, it's unlikely but possible. It's not like we have really anything to lose. Thats not actually true because both your most likely partners are voting each other and taking the vote off you... But is anyone actually trying anything to save me? No.
not yet... And when they saw loli and bats vote you they probably gave up. But they would want to keep there options open to hammer a win today. And they do that by voting the other
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On January 18 2015 05:07 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 05:06 mderg wrote: A question for everyone: What exactly makes me scum? Because theres 3 likely mafia in this game. The other two eden/lian are trying to get votes off you.... This makes you very likely mafia. More likely with eden That's exactly the problem I have with this game right now. Nobody is actually thinking about my play and how that fits to either alignment. Everyone just has me as scum based on association or something. There's no case about my play, just people saying I would fit into this scumteam or that scumteam.
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Im starting too and the fact your most likely partners are voting to save you makes you not look good. Its hard to make a case on you as town because theres so little content. You giving up could just be a ploy and your clearly not giving up.
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On January 18 2015 05:14 sicklucker wrote: Im starting too and the fact your most likely partners are voting to save you makes you not look good. Its hard to make a case on you as town because theres so little content. You giving up could just be a ploy and your clearly not giving up. What do you mean with "there's so little content"? There's not less content from me than from pretty much everyone else. You are the only one in this game with a longer filter than me. Did I ever say that I'd give up? I don't think we can win this anymore but I don't want to see that happen without doing anything.
If you can make a case on me that focuses on MY play, I might not call you absolutely awful after the game.
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Let's take a look at lian: His scumreads D1 were LS, OWS and VA while he had a townread on batsnacks. Incidentally all his scumreads have flipped town and batsnacks is still a possible scum. He was also coming of as a dick and got some hostile atmosphere into the thread. I would call that day pretty anti town.
On D2 he made a listpost calling drp, lalalipop and Breshke scum, everybody else town. He then does pretty much nothing while complaining about the thread. He ends up voting drp for whatever reasons. The only positive thing I'm seeing so far is having Breshke as scum but he didn't push him at all and had no further interaction with him. So that doesn't strike me as townie at all.
After that he makes a case on lalalipop but drops it after some time. He moves on to me as his scumread without giving any reasons at all, omgus or sheeping sl? He later gives some reasons, mainly naming me scumreading 3(2) towns (seems to happen when only townies are lynched) and me sheeping Eden. I'm biased ofc but I don't think it's a strong case at all especially considering that he himself had quite some townies as scumreads and only jumps on me after sl started pushing me.
Then he also pressures Eden (I'm not entirely sure but I think this was also after sl called Eden scum). It feels like after sl was townread by everyone, he was pretty much always on the same boat as him. That I find very suspicious.
He was also trying hard to appear controversial and often trying to blame others for whatever went wrong. Overall that makes him my top scumread.
##Vote liancourt
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Also lalalipop: The only reason people think you're town is Breshke unvoting you. You have almost no content and would probably be the lynch today. It might just have been Breshke being bad, so I'm not completely convinced of you being town anymore. I would really appreciate, if you tried to solve the game.
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looks like everyone is fine with scum winning
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With lian and Eden voting each other it is 100% certain that scum is either controlling this lynch or not trying to do anything about it. So scum is fine with this lynch. That should ring some alarm bells.
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Just throwing out this theory: What if sucklucker is scum? What's the reason we all see him as town? It's mainly because of his claim(s).He also has a huge ass filter but whatever. His uncc'd tracker claim pretty much confirms him as town but there's way that scum would have no fear of being cc'd at all. If they don't have to chose who makes the kill at night, they can be 100% sure that there's neither tracker nor watcher in this game. Being basically confirmed town would then give him a free pass to push scum agenda without anyone doubting him at all.
It's actually very unlikely that this is the case. sicklucker is most likely town but I just wanted to throw this out here to sound smart, if this turns out to be true.
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This doesn't feel right.
sicklucker, you're sure you won't switch to liancourt? We're running low on time and he's the only guy I feel confident in. You asked for my case - again - and then afk'd without addressing it.
batsnacks? lalalipop? somebody? please help. I'm getting a terrible feeling it's not mderg, but I don't know who else it would be. I just feel sure it's liancourt so somebody move? please?
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On January 18 2015 06:36 mderg wrote: Just throwing out this theory: What if sucklucker is scum? What's the reason we all see him as town? It's mainly because of his claim(s).He also has a huge ass filter but whatever. His uncc'd tracker claim pretty much confirms him as town but there's way that scum would have no fear of being cc'd at all. If they don't have to chose who makes the kill at night, they can be 100% sure that there's neither tracker nor watcher in this game. Being basically confirmed town would then give him a free pass to push scum agenda without anyone doubting him at all.
It's actually very unlikely that this is the case. sicklucker is most likely town but I just wanted to throw this out here to sound smart, if this turns out to be true. You should all be able to see how desperate I am after reading this.
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On January 18 2015 05:59 Trfel wrote:Vote Count Day 4 mderg (3): sicklucker, Eden1892, batsnacks, lalipop Eden1892 (1): liancourt, liancourt (2): Eden1892, mderg Currently, mderg is set to be lynched with 3 votes.
until the deadline.
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On January 18 2015 06:36 mderg wrote: Just throwing out this theory: What if sucklucker is scum? What's the reason we all see him as town? It's mainly because of his claim(s).He also has a huge ass filter but whatever. His uncc'd tracker claim pretty much confirms him as town but there's way that scum would have no fear of being cc'd at all. If they don't have to chose who makes the kill at night, they can be 100% sure that there's neither tracker nor watcher in this game. Being basically confirmed town would then give him a free pass to push scum agenda without anyone doubting him at all.
It's actually very unlikely that this is the case. sicklucker is most likely town but I just wanted to throw this out here to sound smart, if this turns out to be true. There's two things that bother me about his play right now:
(1) He's just not even caring about liancourt. I can't remember how many times this thread he's acted like I haven't had a case on liancourt, or haven't posted it, or whatever, when I actually have and he's just ignored it. Just townreads him without explaining and moves on. (2) One of the main reasons I've been townreading him is that he's un-cc'd tracker and posting a lot, but the thing is that his power role claim can't actually be validated the more I think about it. His posting a lot, and with mostly the same tone as I remember from Imperial (where I townread him), gives me pause.
I don't think I could build a case on him as convincing as the one on liancourt though, so I'd rather liancourt today. I don't think what you're thinking is as crazy as you make it sound though. This game state is bizarre to me because you're on everyone's kill list but trying about as hard as I am right now to figure out what's going on. Like how is liancourt not getting destroyed right now for voting me and afk'ing? What the hell townie does that at MYLO?
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On January 18 2015 06:42 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 05:59 Trfel wrote:Vote Count Day 4 mderg (3): sicklucker, Eden1892, batsnacks, lalipop Eden1892 (1): liancourt, liancourt (2): Eden1892, mderg Currently, mderg is set to be lynched with 3 votes.
until the deadline. I'm saying it again: This lynch is either scum controlled or scum is completely fine with it.
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Ya i might kill lian vote him lets see how long
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well i ment to hammer lian yesterday. Lets kill him and blame doctor for not voting lian over himself
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This is two games inaow lian has done this to me im semi serious about spite voting him here
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he was mafia before, yeah? I literally see no reason for town to afk like he did
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Eden you cant say I dont care about lian because I tried to hammer him over doctor.. lol
Lian bats loli are you here? Im just going to eden/mderg side if your not because you dont deserve to win
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This is freakin stupid what about sleep? No ones freakin here at lylo deadline?
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