Imperial Mafia - Page 9

On January 03 2015 13:52 Damdred wrote:


I've had a town read on jat for awhile

Eden is town I think, the vote analysis posts and the prodding posts make me feel good about Eden.

I've made it clear I'm suspicious on Dr h especially leaving one of his top two scum alive

Sl I think is super suspect with how he's been acting and jumping back and forth.

robik idk he could be scum but more bullish for now.

who am I missing

On January 03 2015 13:55 Eden1892 wrote:
OK, verdict is in.

I think sicklucker is town. I don't want to kill him today, maybe ever.

Yes it's derpy as hell that he says he changed his vote off geript to batsnacks because he "wasn't confident" in the read on geript, even though he has multiple posts that basically say geript is definitely mafia. But:

(1) His story on his four town reads is completely consistent and held up despite direct questioning. He had explicitly townread three of them and implicitly townread a fourth well before he justified his vote switch by sheeping his townreads.
(2) Sheeping one's townreads off of a vote you like to another wagon late is definitely something a townie would do, and seems like something a townie is more likely to do than a mafia, because a mafia would be worried about how bad "sheep townreads onto a town flip" would look afterwards.
(3) The stars had to have aligned colossally for sicklucker to be mafia and be able to make any kind of strategic switch to kill batsnacks with the rationale that he sheeped his four most consistent town reads. You can't make this up.

Other EoN stuff:

Until I get an explanation from geript regarding why his excuse for his late vote was an outright fabrication and I hear something convincing for the switch, he's likely my kill for tomorrow. I can't see any reason why this guy should be allowed to make it to day 3.

I still have not read Vivax but promise to do so next day. His questioning me was weird and didn't seem to go anywhere so I can kinda see where people are coming from on him, but I'd like to have something more definitive.

Maybe more vote count crunching too.

Chyz, Doc, sicklucker, Koshi are my townreads so far. I should probably have more by now but I haven't paid enough attention to most people to have an honest read. Luckily I expect all of my reads to be alive tomorrow so kills should help thin that out.

That's all I think. I highly doubt I die n1 but just in case~

On January 03 2015 13:21 KelsierSC wrote:
This seems important

On January 03 2015 14:37 IAmRobik wrote:
If we don't lynch vivax today, I'm going to kill some babies

On January 03 2015 14:40 Damdred wrote:
Did you know kel that I've played 10-15 games with bats probably since I've been here?

Every time we caught him almost was for the reasons that I posted. I think that the reasons at that point of the day were good and he was an ok lynch. I think you put to much into a point where I said I can remember to when bat faded where I forgot he was in the game both situations can exist ya know.

I think it's pretty shit conclusion tbh for bad reasoning

On January 03 2015 14:46 IAmRobik wrote:

no point now. we're lynching vivax. As much as I'd like to try today, there's literally no point

On January 03 2015 14:47 Damdred wrote:
How the hell did I know hr was town he wasn't playing to his town fame that's for sure.

I'm not even sure how this is productive just feels like you are trying to role me up to make myself look bad instead of interaction

On January 03 2015 14:56 sicklucker wrote:
Well kelsier how do you feel about me now after edens post that might have got him killed

On January 03 2015 22:27 marvellosity wrote:

it doesn't? (koshi being town)

what the poop is the point of wifoming about night kills? koshi isn't a surprising kill regardless of who he was pushing at the time, and mafia tend far more to kill people who are a danger to them then otherwise. tldr it's all wifom so what's the point in even speculating about it?

did you not read Vivax pushing jat? Where jat pointed out that literally the next quote in his filter was a correction/disproved what Vivax was saying? the reasons are just so ungenuine. Vivax is a relatively solid townplayer and that push was... not

On January 03 2015 22:30 Vivax wrote:
For me, it's still suspicious how he went from saying "bats has no scumreads" to then talking about how he doesn't interact with them. HE exaggerated willingly.

On January 03 2015 22:34 Vivax wrote:


What am I doing wrong? Like, if you know better don't just stand around and tell me I'm bullshitting show me what I misunderstood and lead me to a better track instead of standing on the sidelines and just throwing around snarky comments.
Show me why I'm wrong on JAT, or tell me where my argument is wrong, or tell me who a better lynch is who isn't me.

On January 03 2015 22:37 Vivax wrote:


I think it's still pretty clear that at the time I wasn't convinced by the arguments presented by Artanis and DrH about geript but I felt that DrH's case was appealing and I also said what I didn't like about TheChyz, plus concerns about Lazermonkey for his weird post where he talks so much about some guy cause he's indecisive on him but only spends a fraction of that post talking about his scumread.

On December 11 2014 02:00 Vivax wrote:
I found your followup fairly weak cause after scumreading fecal and people giving your argument low weight you preferred to focus on other stuff rather than on trying to start a wagon on him. It's like you were content with just having a read out for some reason rather than actually getting people to follow it. Scum doesn't care if their read has weight in the town as long as people buy their explanations even when they don't agree with it and it looks like they're scumhunting.

When I think someone is scum I'll look in their filter for as long as it takes to find the things proving that they are and to convince other people, and when people still don't listen I'll usually get very wordy, or contest the leading lynch. That's how I play town, and how you don't, so I think you're scummy and hence that answers:

On January 03 2015 22:37 marvellosity wrote:

people aren't voting Vivax because Koshi died, silly.

On January 03 2015 22:44 Lazermonkey wrote:
@Kel

I'm interested in killing Dam. Just sayin'.

On January 03 2015 22:47 Vivax wrote:


Yes and here I saw the discrepancy. JAT basically tried to find reasons for geript being town prior to voting for him, the reasons for him being scum are in the ancient era of his filter and he never kept harping on them. They only showed up after multiple people posted their suspicion on geript. Then he votes geript after finding reasons for actually not scumreading him.

And when the geript wagon is rolling he even goes as far as exaggerating to get to another lynch. He claims it's cause he was that confident about bats but then I don't understand why he joined the geript wagon first and then started pushing bats. And also, what happened to his other two reads when he joined the geript wagon? He points out he's suspicious of LM and ritoky at some point but the followup is still that pointless conversational style that makes him look active but also makes him zero productive.