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Ok So here is the case on LM as promised, sorry it took me a while
On January 01 2015 03:34 KelsierSC wrote:So I honestly think the case against Chyz is kind of shit tier and that is what makes me interested in the people who jumped on it. Namely Artanis and Lazor. So I asked the two of them some questions and I quite like the read that Artanis gave on DrH that felt towny to me. But when I asked Lazer questions he basically didn't have any reads on eden, DrH or rit. This is apparently a scummy thing because he reads the chyz as scum for not immediately having strong reads at that stage of the game. We need to move on from chyz at the moment because this reason for pushing him is poor. He stopped rit and DrH having their dick measuring, that felt fine. Then when he got forced to give reads (by DrH) he gave some but he wasn't like "this guy is scum, lynch" and then DrH feels like he was being hypocritical...I don't see how, nowhere did chyz give the impression he was giving a strong read. When Lazer entered the thread he gave these reads Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 00:30 Lazermonkey wrote:Hi everyone Because of NYE, I will only be able to be active for a few hours today. Tomorrow I'll have more time though. Chyz looks scummy. Though I do think people are attacking him for the wrong reasons. The discussion between DH and rikoty WAS stupid. But if you look at Chyz opening post, he doesn't give any actual opinion about the players involved other than that rikoty should move on. Nowhere does he speak about their alignment. On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote:
Hello all.
Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda.
@ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything. Chyz doesn't follow up with anything at all untill he is called out. Why is it that he the first thing that he felt he had to post was that people was on the wrong track, instead of actually trying give some of his own opinion? This is scum mentality. ##Vote: TheChyz which is just a copy of the thread mentality and what people had said, again I think the case is bad so supporting it is bad to me. Then he gives a read on Robik, which is like the most pointless read at this stage of the game "hey robik said hi then left, he is a bit scummy" ... yeh but what is the point of that read. Then he gave his 3 reads eventually on eden etc. I didn't think much of the reads at all, they seem very contrived. So in conclusion, jumps into thread and sheeps the thread opinion, ( a bad case on chezy ) , has no good reads at all. I think one of artanis/lazer is scummy and I think it is Lazer
On January 08 2015 10:08 KelsierSC wrote:
I think rit and lazer are aligned by rit liking the pressure that lm puts on dam and gives him a soft town read for it.
That was the stuff before the most recent day
If we look at how LM plays around the palmar lynch.
On January 12 2015 04:50 Lazermonkey wrote:
Too many things about GB are pointing towards GB being scum atm I feel. There is no "SUPER SCUM MOVE" he has done but the at this point of the game I would expect scum to:
- not pushing superbia hard D1 and D2 (GB did that)
- defend superbia (GB did that)
- vote ritoky over superbia (GB did that)
- Not having alot of strong town reads right now (GB doesn't have that)
This coupled with the fact that there aren't even that many people that could potentially be scum at this point (PoE basically) makes it very very likely that GB is scum.
so GB is clear scum to him. he also admits to defending super d2
On January 12 2015 20:16 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2015 07:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 04 2015 06:16 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 04 2015 06:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 04 2015 06:00 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis/Superbia/Robik/anyone else that is here: comments on Damdred? I still need to read his filter since your case is pretty much "he hasn't been doing this, check his filter". Will you vote Superbia with me? Superbia4lynch '15. I'd rather not. Oh hello. Damdred did join me on voting Superbia. Vivax was around but didn't comment on him. I believe everyone else has died or was afk at the time. Fair enough! I'm not denying that I was defending superbia pretty hard D2 : D.
IOn January 13 2015 02:30 Lazermonkey wrote:I really think we should kill GB btw. Reposting this (EDITED the misstake in the post). Show nested quote +On January 12 2015 04:50 Lazermonkey wrote:
Too many things about GB are pointing towards GB being scum atm I feel. There is no "SUPER SCUM MOVE" he has done but the at this point of the game I would expect scum to:
- not pushing superbia hard D1 and D2 (GB didn't do that)
- defend superbia (GB did that)
- vote ritoky over superbia (GB did that)
- Not having alot of strong town reads right now (GB doesn't have that)
This coupled with the fact that there aren't even that many people that could potentially be scum at this point (PoE basically) makes it very very likely that GB is scum. ##Vote: GlowingBear
We also see LM throwing more scum on GB again and then voting on him...
Then...
On January 14 2015 07:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
Meh, I still think that GB is a better lynch than marv. But it doesn't seem there is any way that we will be able to kill GB today. I'll be on for like 30 minutes more. If you want to lynch GB, I'm all for it. If not, I'll vote marv.
So his main scum read is on GB, GB has also voted on palmar who was town. Yet now LM is willing to vote Marv along with his biggest scum read and he then posts this.
On January 16 2015 22:20 Lazermonkey wrote:
Okay, GB is looking far better now I think. He was very posty and put up two pretty comprehensive meta reads, which I don't really expect scum to do. But this puzzles me, because it means someone I had previously as town is scum. If I had to guess it would be SL, but I really need reread alot before I can draw any clear conclusions.
I really think Kel is scum now also.
If you think his meta post on me is comprehensive you have to be a lunatic. So GB is now "towny" because he voted on a town and then made an awful meta post. No I don't buy this. LM is trying to find an excuse to lynch marv and vote with his strongest "scum read" because he is mafia going for the win.
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On January 06 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:
yeh LM is my top scum read right now
I would also lynch Super and Rit
As for Viv, well his D2 play and the strange start to the day really threw me. I think with geript flipping town though he has to be up for major consideration.
a lot of what I read depends on SL, I think he is scum though. I don't know what the fuck his cop bullshit is but he has dodged my questions on it , it is full of inconsistencies. His play overall has been an attempt to clear himself as often as possible, along with other players, by applying bad logic and WIFOM. He has constantly acted like he has played well and led town or been massively influential, this overstating is really tiring and I don't think he believes it.. I don't believe the claim at all.
but in the world where he is an awful cop I can see a scum team of where they have just sort of coasted by and let town go round in circles.
Marv
Palmar
LM
Super
...+ viv or rit maybe, unsure of this.
my town would be
Robik, JAT, artanis, DrH
I like VE aswell but I just don't have the data on him and it is really a "tone" read more than anything.
GB has now got internet access again and I look forward to getting his perspective on the game for realz.
if you have been forgotten, please dont be rustled
A post from me on d3 I think where I bus Super and Rit ?
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GB for your "meta" read where you think it is my mafia meta to blue hunt.
On January 16 2015 12:06 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2015 12:03 sicklucker wrote:
Wtf I dont believe that at all. You were like on day 1 "marley should claim" Kush was an idiot and believed you. You were mafia that game... well that is what I did, if you want to be thorough you can go and check the mafia qt from that game because I mention it there aswell. read my case on viv?
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oh yeh btw you can see in the post against LM that I gave reasons for why I asked artanis that question. To get a read on him.
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On January 17 2015 03:09 KelsierSC wrote:Ok So here is the case on LM as promised, sorry it took me a while Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 03:34 KelsierSC wrote:
So I honestly think the case against Chyz is kind of shit tier and that is what makes me interested in the people who jumped on it. Namely Artanis and Lazor.
So I asked the two of them some questions and I quite like the read that Artanis gave on DrH that felt towny to me. But when I asked Lazer questions he
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You know hat and others made good points then geript claimed medic
That is why I switched
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All the stuff you have been bringing up is you desperately trying to find stuff in my filter to call me scum with. I have answered all of it and none of it holds water.
I have given my case on lm and on Viv I want more people to talk about that.
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Like one of your arguments is that d1 start of day I ask artanis a question.
That is completely ridiculous to call someone scum for.
I ask artanis to get a read on him. I even explain that on the same day. You have to do better
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The reason I didn't respond is because I was trying to vote on superbis on my phone before the deadline
The timestamp is literally 1 min before deadline.
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If geript really was the medic why the fuck would I move my vote as mafia?
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It is fair to say I was ubeasy with the geript lynch eod2 that is why I was asking for the vote count. Hat made a good point aswell.
So when he claims medic I change because I could easily be wrong on him.
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On January 17 2015 04:46 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 04:45 KelsierSC wrote:
If geript really was the medic why the fuck would I move my vote as mafia? By posting a vote that wouldn't count and then rage at the hosts for not counting it.
Again a lie I didn't rage at hosts for not counting my voyr.
I raged because st eod I was trying to figure out the game and wanted mods to post the current vote count
I posted a series of good reasons why you and lm are scum. You sre trying to distract town from making an informed decision by posting everything from my filter and calling it mafia whilst ignoring my rebuttals to your tragic excuse for an argument
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I am not "done" dont be so obnoxious
Your case on me is incredibly thin.
I could comb your filter and take everything you do and twist it to make you scum. Buy I'm not because I have made a well constructed and objective post that says everything I need to.
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Ive made my points on Viv and lm.
The arguments against me are terrible vivax is going back to d1 and talking about irrelevant things to call me scum.
Gb has awful arguments
Artanis is convinced somehow I don't know what that means.
In town, mafia wins if you lynch me.
Apparently when there is a close vote between two people and the town
gets lynched under strange circumstances, people think the logical idea is that 2 mafia voted on someone else and everyone on the palmar wagon was town. If you think that is logical then you are some ki d of lobotomised troll.
Read my cases in Viv and lm they are actually good and aren't nitpocky bullshit from d1.
Remember if Viv is town robik,jat,geript and koshi are all wrong. And if I'm mafia jat and robik are wrong too.
Here is viv's pish record
Chyz geript,jat,robik,palmar.
Yeh what a great towbie definitely a good town leader
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Alright if you all think I'm scum and cant be bothered to read my cases or look at my responses then vote me today because I'm town , have played a town game.
And the scum narrative makes no fuckibg sense.
Why do I flip my read on sl if I'm scum? I explained my reads already
How is asking someone a question d1 scummy? Artanis on d1 I even explain why I ask you that question!
My reads since d3 have had rit and super as mafia along with Viv and lm.
Seriously last day. Vote I close between palmar and a scunnu lm. Palmar gets weirdly lynched and people think the mafia must have voted lm and that all towns voted palmar. That is so ass backwards.
Poe makes no sense at all, Viv ,lm and Gb makes total sense as a team.
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Thank god artanis you ended up in the right place
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gg scum played well
vivax and GB's reads were so bad that I couldn't see them not being mafia.
I should have been more freaked out that Artanis was agreeing with vivax because Artanis is an intelligent person.
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On January 18 2015 05:08 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 04:54 KelsierSC wrote:
gg scum played well
vivax and GB's reads were so bad that I couldn't see them not being mafia.
I should have been more freaked out that Artanis was agreeing with vivax because Artanis is an intelligent person. Said the guy townreading marv 
you tried to scum read me because I used my phone.
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On January 18 2015 05:17 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 04:54 KelsierSC wrote:
gg scum played well
vivax and GB's reads were so bad that I couldn't see them not being mafia.
I should have been more freaked out that Artanis was agreeing with vivax because Artanis is an intelligent person. Tbh in the later days it felt to me like you just didn't care much about solving the game any more and kept spouting to lynch me and LM without ever rereading something or reconsidering.
it's hard ,when someone is attacking you for every little thing ,to consider a world where that person is town.
Like I said the fact that artanis was agreeing with you should have made me consider Artanis a bit more because I know he has a brain.
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On January 18 2015 05:28 Vivax wrote:
You know someone has a brain when he suggests we should lynch a guy with 90 % scumwinrate who's still alive at D5
QED
you can see from my perspective why I can't possibly read you as town though.
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