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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 11 2015 19:51 GMT
#7213
EBWOP: GB DIDN'T push superbia hard D1 and D2 : P
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 11 2015 19:53 GMT
#7215
Nope. Read my filter (like this and last page probably) for more details :D
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 11 2015 19:57 GMT
#7216
On January 10 2015 10:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 10:06 Damdred wrote:
A few questions GB

Who are the other mafia on superbia besides lazer?

Also the theory rests on that rit is the framer. What if he's not what does that change?


It makes lazermonkey town.

Ritoky must be lynched today anyway, there is no motive for Superbia to waste his vote if ritoky was town.

GB, what do you think about this now that ritoky did not flip framer?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 11 2015 20:27 GMT
#7232
On January 12 2015 05:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On January 12 2015 04:53 Lazermonkey wrote:
Nope. Read my filter (like this and last page probably) for more details :D

Found it, looks fine.

I'm curious what makes you scumread Kelsier. He was the first name you mentioned with "scum is somewhere in here" yet you haven't really mentioned him since.

Yhea, I skimmed through his filter yesterday actually. I was kinda lazy though so I didn't post anything about it.

So Kelsier was actually one of first guys to list superbia as possible scum. This is obviously nice from a town PoV. But he didn't really push him at all untill D3.

He does barely mention ritoky untill D3 also.

This does make him look quite suspicious I'd say. But I feel that I really need to read him more carefully to be able to make a full judgement. He was also the first person to vote superbia. Lynching him now is probably not optimal but if nothing changes we definately need to consider lynching him.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 11 2015 20:34 GMT
#7235
On January 12 2015 05:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 04:57 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 10 2015 10:08 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 10 2015 10:06 Damdred wrote:
A few questions GB

Who are the other mafia on superbia besides lazer?

Also the theory rests on that rit is the framer. What if he's not what does that change?


It makes lazermonkey town.

Ritoky must be lynched today anyway, there is no motive for Superbia to waste his vote if ritoky was town.

GB, what do you think about this now that ritoky did not flip framer?


This was before I thought about the scenario where mafia didn't really believed Robik was cop and was trying to guarantee ritoky's claim on the next day.

So, you're still scum to my eyes.

waitwat? Do you REALLY believe this? I mean, alot of people was unsure about who was cop between Robik and ritoky but scum knew that ritoky was scum, so they shouldn't have been unsure at all.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 11 2015 20:36 GMT
#7236
I'll be gone pretty soon, if anyone got anyone got any quick questions to me, go ahead!
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 11 2015 20:44 GMT
#7239
Need to look into Artanis tomorrow I think. He pushed superbia hard D2 which is nice but he ended up on geript. Had voted superbia instead we would've killed superbia D2 and saved geript.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 11 2015 20:49 GMT
#7241
On January 12 2015 05:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 05:34 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 12 2015 05:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 12 2015 04:57 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 10 2015 10:08 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 10 2015 10:06 Damdred wrote:
A few questions GB

Who are the other mafia on superbia besides lazer?

Also the theory rests on that rit is the framer. What if he's not what does that change?


It makes lazermonkey town.

Ritoky must be lynched today anyway, there is no motive for Superbia to waste his vote if ritoky was town.

GB, what do you think about this now that ritoky did not flip framer?


This was before I thought about the scenario where mafia didn't really believed Robik was cop and was trying to guarantee ritoky's claim on the next day.

So, you're still scum to my eyes.

waitwat? Do you REALLY believe this? I mean, alot of people was unsure about who was cop between Robik and ritoky but scum knew that ritoky was scum, so they shouldn't have been unsure at all.


Kelsier was hinting he was the cop, so was SL.
The fact that SL didn't die night2, btw, is odd

Lol, yhea but we are talking about D3 now. Kel didn't claim cop. Robik did. Do you really think that scum thought that anyone but Robik was cop? I mean, he obviously wasn't modconfirmed but he was really fucking likely to be cop at that point.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 11 2015 20:49 GMT
#7242
Need to go now...

See you tomorrow!
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 11:16 GMT
#7282
On January 12 2015 07:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 06:16 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 04 2015 06:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 04 2015 06:00 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis/Superbia/Robik/anyone else that is here: comments on Damdred?

I still need to read his filter since your case is pretty much "he hasn't been doing this, check his filter".
Will you vote Superbia with me?
Superbia4lynch '15.

I'd rather not.

Oh hello.

Damdred did join me on voting Superbia. Vivax was around but didn't comment on him. I believe everyone else has died or was afk at the time.

Fair enough!

I'm not denying that I was defending superbia pretty hard D2 : D.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 17:13 GMT
#7404
On January 13 2015 02:06 sicklucker wrote:
I think a more damning thing on lm is that when I green checked him mafia thought it was a good idea to attack an un cced cop. Like they look really bad If im the real cop. I think they knew I was fake because I green checked their partner (LM).

A huge reason they died is because all they did day2-3 was try to put scum on me. Bad strategy but that was their strategy I think they assumed because I faked cop people would want to lynch me and they would look town for being the first people to lynch me.

If that makes any sense

Hi.

This is a terrible argument.

If I was scum, what motive does scum have for casting doubt on you? I mean, they would know you were lying but they are obviously not going to go into the thread saying "hey, SL is lying about being cop because Lazer is scum with us".
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 17:19 GMT
#7409
On January 13 2015 02:16 Vivax wrote:
LM read my post and tell me if SL is scum

I think SL is playing scummy. And most definately bad.

But I'm still very reluctant to call him scum. Say what you want about filter length, but 34 pages IS alot. There isn't really much reason to post THAT much if you are scum. Have you checked some of his other games? Does he always post like this?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 17:22 GMT
#7411
On January 13 2015 02:18 sicklucker wrote:
Vivax I first green checked lm because I didnt think he was scum. That should be obvious why would I green check a mafia? When it became very clear to me that mafia knew I was fake (ritoky super) I quickly turned it into a "trap" and changed my check hoping to get nked.

Like, the problem with this reasoning is that you think that fakeclaiming cop was a good idea. It wasn't at all. Alot of players in the game were saying it was a stupid move. Thus attacking you for the claim isn't really alignment indicative at all.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 17:23 GMT
#7412
On January 13 2015 02:19 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 02:16 Vivax wrote:
LM read my post and tell me if SL is scum

I think SL is playing scummy. And most definately bad.

But I'm still very reluctant to call him scum. Say what you want about filter length, but 34 pages IS alot. There isn't really much reason to post THAT much if you are scum. Have you checked some of his other games? Does he always post like this?

EBWOP: 37 pages : D
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 17:24 GMT
#7414
On January 13 2015 02:20 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 02:13 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 13 2015 02:06 sicklucker wrote:
I think a more damning thing on lm is that when I green checked him mafia thought it was a good idea to attack an un cced cop. Like they look really bad If im the real cop. I think they knew I was fake because I green checked their partner (LM).

A huge reason they died is because all they did day2-3 was try to put scum on me. Bad strategy but that was their strategy I think they assumed because I faked cop people would want to lynch me and they would look town for being the first people to lynch me.

If that makes any sense

Hi.

This is a terrible argument.

If I was scum, what motive does scum have for casting doubt on you? I mean, they would know you were lying but they are obviously not going to go into the thread saying "hey, SL is lying about being cop because Lazer is scum with us".


If I was scum and I know someones fake my first instinct would be to go. Hey guys im really town I know this guys fake because im very observant and town! And when he is fake I hope to get lots of town points

How you would play as scum =/= how everyone else would play as scum though
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 17:28 GMT
#7416
On January 13 2015 02:24 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 02:22 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 13 2015 02:18 sicklucker wrote:
Vivax I first green checked lm because I didnt think he was scum. That should be obvious why would I green check a mafia? When it became very clear to me that mafia knew I was fake (ritoky super) I quickly turned it into a "trap" and changed my check hoping to get nked.

Like, the problem with this reasoning is that you think that fakeclaiming cop was a good idea. It wasn't at all. Alot of players in the game were saying it was a stupid move. Thus attacking you for the claim isn't really alignment indicative at all.


Why even bring this up. What does this have to do with anything? I can do incorrect plays and get information from it

???

You say you know scum was after you because only scum would doubt your claim. I say that this is incorrect reasoning. I find that highly relevant because it means you argument for why I am scum does not hold.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 17:30 GMT
#7418
I really think we should kill GB btw. Reposting this (EDITED the misstake in the post).

On January 12 2015 04:50 Lazermonkey wrote:
Too many things about GB are pointing towards GB being scum atm I feel. There is no "SUPER SCUM MOVE" he has done but the at this point of the game I would expect scum to:

- not pushing superbia hard D1 and D2 (GB didn't do that)

- defend superbia (GB did that)

- vote ritoky over superbia (GB did that)

- Not having alot of strong town reads right now (GB doesn't have that)

This coupled with the fact that there aren't even that many people that could potentially be scum at this point (PoE basically) makes it very very likely that GB is scum.


##Vote: GlowingBear
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 17:31 GMT
#7419
On January 13 2015 02:29 sicklucker wrote:
oh sorry I misread that. Well my 7 townreads all said fine your the cop untill someone cc's. But my two hard scumreads tunneled an un cced cop. Does that make sense to you?

Yes? The claim was really bad.

And don't act like it was ONLY superbia and ritoky who was suspicious about your claim, that simply wasn't true.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 17:39 GMT
#7422
On January 13 2015 02:34 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 02:31 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 13 2015 02:29 sicklucker wrote:
oh sorry I misread that. Well my 7 townreads all said fine your the cop untill someone cc's. But my two hard scumreads tunneled an un cced cop. Does that make sense to you?

Yes? The claim was really bad.

And don't act like it was ONLY superbia and ritoky who was suspicious about your claim, that simply wasn't true.


All the confirmed towns did the right thing and didnt bring it up. While 2/3 people who were actively against me being the cop are dead mafia. You see a pattern?

I really have to reread then, thats not really how I remember it happening.

I cannot do anything about what other players did. But I know I'm not scum.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 17:42 GMT
#7424
On January 13 2015 02:40 sicklucker wrote:
Well lm if your town make a good case on dandreds. People seem to have it drilled in there head one of you are mafia

Once agian this is really stupid.

I don't think damdred is scum. Why should I make I case on him? And I don't recall many people saying one of us HAS to be scum, but more that its unlikely both of us are scum.
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