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liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 07:20 GMT
#3232
vote HF end the day have night come
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 07:36 GMT
#3241
we're in a world where GB accuses you of scum, but doesn't want vig to shoot you...GB so scummy yes and oh look he's accusing you of being scum again

Rito claiming to have a shot and then claiming to have been Rbed...how convenient, and oh look he doesnt say who he shot surprise surprise

HF votes were so close and if any mafia were on the kel wagon they could have just jumped wagon and voted you to get a mislynch...bu tthey didn't, does that mean the kel wagon was full of pure town??? or does it mean you were also mafia and have a slighlty better role than kel like scum RB???

Oh and rito claims to have been RBed then what happened to obi's vig shot? Did that get RBed too??? LOL

Is a world possible where all 3 are scum...maybe. Who knows?

Someone explain to me an ideal world because i cannot think straight because HF hasn't flipped and it's giving me paranoia seriously.

liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 07:50 GMT
#3248
On December 15 2014 16:41 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not horrible I'm good at this game and don't want to die to rng.

Lian, mafia could have been in people defending me and so switching to me would look extremely terrible. They could also already be on my wagon or they could just be an afker like oats.


This is endless WIFOM and you know it HF

i didn't want this kind of WIFOM discussion today so I wanted you to flip during the night.

liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 07:53 GMT
#3250
There is absolutely no progression in discussion with you being alive.

I'm sorry but you really need to die and flip.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 17:11 GMT
#3312
On December 15 2014 22:18 GlowingBear wrote:
If you're not mafia, I've never seen your town play lacking this consistency, HF.

I remember pretty well you going against Rayn and other players when you thought they are mafia, and you're not doing it this game. Instead, you were picking on ritoky just the way you were picking on obi on hearthstone mafia. You're pushing people because they are "lying", the same excuse you used with obi in that game.

Now, really, you say 3 people are terrible for wasting their votes, does not go against them, scumreads me and ritoky, drops your vote on FF, who was soft confirmed town by Santa.

A scum who was dying wasted his vote instead of trying to survive and kill you.

You don't think all the facts are against you?


Yes exactly this is why hf needs to flip

why didnt kel vote hf

really why????????
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 20:26 GMT
#3346
we kill HF today

what is so hard about this
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 21:26 GMT
#3358
if rit is scum then why did he vote kel?

u know what this means...hf is also scum
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 22:17 GMT
#3382
lynch hf first

rito d4
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 22:20 GMT
#3385
rit why didnt u claim who u were going to shoot at night
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 22:42 GMT
#3395
what confuses me is what mafia motivation would there be for scum rito to claim to have a shot and then claim being blocked then claim to have attempted to shoot rasputin.

Adversely, what town motivation is there for rito to this? I mean if i had that shot i would have kept my mouth shut until night deadline and claim just before night was over.

What really boggles me is that there is absolutely no motivation town nor scum for the way rito is acting

Can we postpone rito's lynch until day 4 and lynch HF today, we need to analyze those day 2 votes!

I really want to discuss other scum, but so long as HF is alive I'm afraid I'll just have this tunnel vision on him. Let me analyze those votes, why isn't anyone else interested in this? Obi was interested in analyzing the votes and looked really town by doing so, he even said it was his specialty in analyzing night actions and votes and he died at night. Scum don't want town to analyze those votes. Come on kill HF first.

vote HF kill rito tomorrow
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 22:47 GMT
#3399
On December 16 2014 07:33 marvellosity wrote:
Roleblocks are not notified


now i'm really torn as to who to kill first.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 22:56 GMT
#3407
On December 16 2014 07:53 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 07:50 Holyflare wrote:
On December 10 2014 17:45 Palmar wrote:
Clarification:

Roleblocks, Saves and anything like that are never announced to the player. You will not know if you're roleblocked (although if you have a role you might be able to deduce it) and you will not know if you saved someone or got saved from a KP.


Anyone saying to kill me before this must be mafia. Absolutely ridiculous that me and ritoky would be mafia together.


No it's not ridiculous. There are now 2 scum that didn't vote to save KSC.


why didnt rit vote HF to save kel????

HF mafia

please I want HF to flip so I can analyze the shizwihiznit of the day 2 votes

vote HF kill rito tomorrow
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 23:04 GMT
#3413
On December 16 2014 07:58 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 07:56 liancourt wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:53 batsnacks wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:50 Holyflare wrote:
On December 10 2014 17:45 Palmar wrote:
Clarification:

Roleblocks, Saves and anything like that are never announced to the player. You will not know if you're roleblocked (although if you have a role you might be able to deduce it) and you will not know if you saved someone or got saved from a KP.


Anyone saying to kill me before this must be mafia. Absolutely ridiculous that me and ritoky would be mafia together.


No it's not ridiculous. There are now 2 scum that didn't vote to save KSC.


why didnt rit vote HF to save kel????

HF mafia

please I want HF to flip so I can analyze the shizwihiznit of the day 2 votes

vote HF kill rito tomorrow


Why the fuck do you want to lynch the town guy 24/7 over the confirmed mafia ritoky.




i want you to flip first it will tell me a lot more information

rit flipping now will tell me nothing


liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 23:21 GMT
#3423
On December 16 2014 08:03 Holyflare wrote:
How obvious would it be if he went against everything he had just said earlier and lynched me over mafia??


then how do u explain what truffles did

he went against everything he said, he even made a case on mafia and yet voted you in the end but was actually the seer

some people just dont act rationally

you need to die today and flip so i can anlayze day 2 votes.

I'm thinking a world where mafia thought they had it good with majority votes on tube and was pretty lenient with how they played and was raped in the ass when votes moved off of tube. The train going on ff failed and went back to kel and mafia had to decide on which mafia to bus. They picked kel because HF prolly has a better role than him. In this instance rit and xat look scummy as hell. But to confirm my suspicions HF needs to flip.

Vote HF kill rito tomorrow.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 23:29 GMT
#3432
On December 16 2014 08:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 08:04 liancourt wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:58 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:56 liancourt wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:53 batsnacks wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:50 Holyflare wrote:
On December 10 2014 17:45 Palmar wrote:
Clarification:

Roleblocks, Saves and anything like that are never announced to the player. You will not know if you're roleblocked (although if you have a role you might be able to deduce it) and you will not know if you saved someone or got saved from a KP.


Anyone saying to kill me before this must be mafia. Absolutely ridiculous that me and ritoky would be mafia together.


No it's not ridiculous. There are now 2 scum that didn't vote to save KSC.


why didnt rit vote HF to save kel????

HF mafia

please I want HF to flip so I can analyze the shizwihiznit of the day 2 votes

vote HF kill rito tomorrow


Why the fuck do you want to lynch the town guy 24/7 over the confirmed mafia ritoky.




i want you to flip first it will tell me a lot more information

rit flipping now will tell me nothing




Just play the game and lynch obvious mafia??? It's not difficult to split your reasoning into if i flip town and if i flip mafia is it? Me dying changes absolutely nothing but 1 mislynch closer to losing because you don't want to lynch confirmed mafia first.

Stop spamming the same useless nonsense please i know you're better than that


i'm trying to think of all possiblities

a world where town rit is playing so bad that he shot into a vet or protectee
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 23:34 GMT
#3437
On December 16 2014 08:22 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 08:12 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2014 08:06 batsnacks wrote:
On December 16 2014 08:01 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:58 batsnacks wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:55 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:53 batsnacks wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:50 Holyflare wrote:
On December 10 2014 17:45 Palmar wrote:
Clarification:

Roleblocks, Saves and anything like that are never announced to the player. You will not know if you're roleblocked (although if you have a role you might be able to deduce it) and you will not know if you saved someone or got saved from a KP.


Anyone saying to kill me before this must be mafia. Absolutely ridiculous that me and ritoky would be mafia together.


No it's not ridiculous. There are now 2 scum that didn't vote to save KSC.



Yes bussing is cool when a guy is super afk after saying he liked the case on his partner but not the case on me and the people on me.


If you want to make me understand that isn't the sentence that's going to do it.


Ritoky said he flat out agreed on the case on kelsier when the votes were piling up on him. He went onto gb's case and said he didn't really agree with a lot of the points, I'm more of a ? Than kelsier and that the people on my wagon are suspicious.

He literally couldn't do anything else BUT bus kelsier at this point and it wasn't a point at which the votes were 8-7 and switching could save kelsier. It was much before.


Yeah he did describe trfel's kelsier case as a "slam dunk" which if he's mafia is a very strange decision considering your and his interaction at the start of the day. He had every reason to vote you... but didn't.

Which... I think that actually makes you look way worse. Like I said before given the choice between afk/hospital KSC and not afk/hospital HF, the choice is obvious.


I would bus kelsier 10/10 times if that case was made and he was afk. I imagine most people would too. It doesn't matter if i look worse or not. It doesn't change my alignment. Judge me on what I do and not what yoi think mafia ritoky would be thinking at that random point in time.

If you think I'm mafia because I'm playing badly and whatever then fine, you're wrong but i won't hate you for it, I'm playing pretty damn suboptimally but the fact of the matter is i called out this fucker yesterday, pushed him non-stop got berated by ALL OF YOU saying it doesn't make ritoky mafia and that we should let him live with a fucking present or whatever when actually I was right and it was by far the right play to just shoot him when i asked obi to n1.


You were afk at the end of d2, when the case was made, so there wasn't an opportunity for you to bus him based on that case.

And I'm not judging you based on what mafia ritoky would be thinking, I am judging you based on what mafia KSC and what mafia ritoky actually did.

I don't think you're playing badly not sure why you'd even say that. I don't think anyone this game, aside from SL, has said you were playing badly and who cares if he thinks that anyway?

and you pushing one of your scum buddies is not hard to believe, especially if you thought they were playing suboptimally, which, I think ritoky was playing sub-optimally with all his "presents" stuff as it got him killed.


omg bats is so town to me

yes rit and hf have been playing so so suboptimally. They aren't finding scum and it isn't odd for HF to bus his scum buddies.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 23:39 GMT
#3439
On December 16 2014 08:31 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 08:29 liancourt wrote:
On December 16 2014 08:07 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2014 08:04 liancourt wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:58 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:56 liancourt wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:53 batsnacks wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:50 Holyflare wrote:
On December 10 2014 17:45 Palmar wrote:
Clarification:

Roleblocks, Saves and anything like that are never announced to the player. You will not know if you're roleblocked (although if you have a role you might be able to deduce it) and you will not know if you saved someone or got saved from a KP.


Anyone saying to kill me before this must be mafia. Absolutely ridiculous that me and ritoky would be mafia together.


No it's not ridiculous. There are now 2 scum that didn't vote to save KSC.


why didnt rit vote HF to save kel????

HF mafia

please I want HF to flip so I can analyze the shizwihiznit of the day 2 votes

vote HF kill rito tomorrow


Why the fuck do you want to lynch the town guy 24/7 over the confirmed mafia ritoky.




i want you to flip first it will tell me a lot more information

rit flipping now will tell me nothing




Just play the game and lynch obvious mafia??? It's not difficult to split your reasoning into if i flip town and if i flip mafia is it? Me dying changes absolutely nothing but 1 mislynch closer to losing because you don't want to lynch confirmed mafia first.

Stop spamming the same useless nonsense please i know you're better than that


i'm trying to think of all possiblities

a world where town rit is playing so bad that he shot into a vet or protectee


He's already claimed being rb'd and that he received a notification. How many lies are you going to accept before you realise he's mafia??


did he really claim being rbed??? or did he say he was notified of his kill failing???

are you misrepresenting things again like scum HF?
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 23:41 GMT
#3442
On December 16 2014 08:33 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 08:28 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2014 08:22 batsnacks wrote:
On December 16 2014 08:12 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2014 08:06 batsnacks wrote:
On December 16 2014 08:01 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:58 batsnacks wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:55 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:53 batsnacks wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:50 Holyflare wrote:
[quote]

Anyone saying to kill me before this must be mafia. Absolutely ridiculous that me and ritoky would be mafia together.


No it's not ridiculous. There are now 2 scum that didn't vote to save KSC.



Yes bussing is cool when a guy is super afk after saying he liked the case on his partner but not the case on me and the people on me.


If you want to make me understand that isn't the sentence that's going to do it.


Ritoky said he flat out agreed on the case on kelsier when the votes were piling up on him. He went onto gb's case and said he didn't really agree with a lot of the points, I'm more of a ? Than kelsier and that the people on my wagon are suspicious.

He literally couldn't do anything else BUT bus kelsier at this point and it wasn't a point at which the votes were 8-7 and switching could save kelsier. It was much before.


Yeah he did describe trfel's kelsier case as a "slam dunk" which if he's mafia is a very strange decision considering your and his interaction at the start of the day. He had every reason to vote you... but didn't.

Which... I think that actually makes you look way worse. Like I said before given the choice between afk/hospital KSC and not afk/hospital HF, the choice is obvious.


I would bus kelsier 10/10 times if that case was made and he was afk. I imagine most people would too. It doesn't matter if i look worse or not. It doesn't change my alignment. Judge me on what I do and not what yoi think mafia ritoky would be thinking at that random point in time.

If you think I'm mafia because I'm playing badly and whatever then fine, you're wrong but i won't hate you for it, I'm playing pretty damn suboptimally but the fact of the matter is i called out this fucker yesterday, pushed him non-stop got berated by ALL OF YOU saying it doesn't make ritoky mafia and that we should let him live with a fucking present or whatever when actually I was right and it was by far the right play to just shoot him when i asked obi to n1.


You were afk at the end of d2, when the case was made, so there wasn't an opportunity for you to bus him based on that case.

And I'm not judging you based on what mafia ritoky would be thinking, I am judging you based on what mafia KSC and what mafia ritoky actually did.

I don't think you're playing badly not sure why you'd even say that. I don't think anyone this game, aside from SL, has said you were playing badly and who cares if he thinks that anyway?

and you pushing one of your scum buddies is not hard to believe, especially if you thought they were playing suboptimally, which, I think ritoky was playing sub-optimally with all his "presents" stuff as it got him killed.


I'm not talking about what i would do. I implied that if i was mafia and saw that case then i would think my team mate would die 100% of the time, especially as loads of people switched at the time and then just bus him.

Gb comes along and says rah rah my case is awesome but at that point people had already pointed out the multiple holes in his case and ritoky was one of them and couldn't join the anti mafia train.

I am playing badly if I'm even up for consideration of being lynched.


Let's just ignore everything but two facts for the purposes of this post:

KSC, who was confirmed mafia, did not switch his vote to you despite being in the thread and posting at eod d2.

ritoky, who I think is pretty obviously mafia, also did not switch his vote to you despite scum reading you for half the day.

None of that has anything to do with how well you played. Both of those things make you scummy.

So no, I don't think you're playing badly if you're a probable lynch target. I definitely never said you were playing badly. I never meant to imply it. It's not part of my message.


omg i love this guy he's thinking the exact same thing as me.

so friggin town
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 23:48 GMT
#3450
On December 16 2014 08:41 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 08:34 liancourt wrote:
On December 16 2014 08:22 batsnacks wrote:
On December 16 2014 08:12 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2014 08:06 batsnacks wrote:
On December 16 2014 08:01 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:58 batsnacks wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:55 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:53 batsnacks wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:50 Holyflare wrote:
[quote]

Anyone saying to kill me before this must be mafia. Absolutely ridiculous that me and ritoky would be mafia together.


No it's not ridiculous. There are now 2 scum that didn't vote to save KSC.



Yes bussing is cool when a guy is super afk after saying he liked the case on his partner but not the case on me and the people on me.


If you want to make me understand that isn't the sentence that's going to do it.


Ritoky said he flat out agreed on the case on kelsier when the votes were piling up on him. He went onto gb's case and said he didn't really agree with a lot of the points, I'm more of a ? Than kelsier and that the people on my wagon are suspicious.

He literally couldn't do anything else BUT bus kelsier at this point and it wasn't a point at which the votes were 8-7 and switching could save kelsier. It was much before.


Yeah he did describe trfel's kelsier case as a "slam dunk" which if he's mafia is a very strange decision considering your and his interaction at the start of the day. He had every reason to vote you... but didn't.

Which... I think that actually makes you look way worse. Like I said before given the choice between afk/hospital KSC and not afk/hospital HF, the choice is obvious.


I would bus kelsier 10/10 times if that case was made and he was afk. I imagine most people would too. It doesn't matter if i look worse or not. It doesn't change my alignment. Judge me on what I do and not what yoi think mafia ritoky would be thinking at that random point in time.

If you think I'm mafia because I'm playing badly and whatever then fine, you're wrong but i won't hate you for it, I'm playing pretty damn suboptimally but the fact of the matter is i called out this fucker yesterday, pushed him non-stop got berated by ALL OF YOU saying it doesn't make ritoky mafia and that we should let him live with a fucking present or whatever when actually I was right and it was by far the right play to just shoot him when i asked obi to n1.


You were afk at the end of d2, when the case was made, so there wasn't an opportunity for you to bus him based on that case.

And I'm not judging you based on what mafia ritoky would be thinking, I am judging you based on what mafia KSC and what mafia ritoky actually did.

I don't think you're playing badly not sure why you'd even say that. I don't think anyone this game, aside from SL, has said you were playing badly and who cares if he thinks that anyway?

and you pushing one of your scum buddies is not hard to believe, especially if you thought they were playing suboptimally, which, I think ritoky was playing sub-optimally with all his "presents" stuff as it got him killed.


omg bats is so town to me

yes rit and hf have been playing so so suboptimally. They aren't finding scum and it isn't odd for HF to bus his scum buddies.


I am not playing suboptimally if i called out ritoky n1 at all. I've only had 1 lynch of mine pushed so no idea what you're saying at all. There's bussing and then there's literally begging a team mate to get shot for no reason n1 before all of this present bs that bats is saying i accounted for. No coincidence that i start playing worse the moment i go on holiday is it?


HF please don't make IRL excuses like scum. You know better than that. Town isn't going to give you a bye because you are on holiday. It is common knowledge how scum use IRL reasons to excuse their contrasting plays. Please just don't don't do it.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 23:52 GMT
#3454
On December 16 2014 08:46 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 08:22 batsnacks wrote:
suboptimally


Well no point in waiting until I am lynched or it is the end of the game to get flamed for playing like an idiot and probably single-handedly losing the game for town.

I straight up lied about being roleblocked, and I straight up lied about shooting last night. I didn't shoot anyone. I didn't read the rules clearly enough, and I attempted to hold my shot assuming that I would be roleblocked and not killed by mafia since I was a clear ML target. I was right on the grounds that I was not killed, not a clue if I was rb'd. I was wrong in that I didn't read clearly enough that I couldn't hold my shot. After the phase expired it was gone, and my posting in the thread has gone down because my anger has gone up. I said a bunch of random shit and lies to try and explain it away because I was already upset with myself and didn't really wanna be flamed for how piss poor I am playing. Here is me being a jackass and explaining the lesson I learned to someone in the thread:

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 12:58 ritoky wrote:
On December 15 2014 12:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Ritoky, did you waste your bullet?
If yes, who did you try to shoot?


I had to shoot, at least how I read the present info was that there was no holding it for another night allowed.

As for claiming who I tried to shoot, I am going to wait a little bit longer for that; interested in what a couple people have to say.


And there's me trying to figure out who the hell to claim a fake shot on cuz I have no fucking clue what to do at this point.

So yes, I played suboptimally, in fact probably abysmally. Sorry to those of you who are town, I have probably cost us the game, you can flame me now or after the game; I don't care, I deserve it. I understand that you all probably have to vote on me because I lied too much about stupid shit that I probably shouldn't have; but know you'll be lynching a town who hammered the mafia last phase. My bad.

For those of you who are going to say "LOL THIS GUY CAN'T BE THIS DUMB". Take pause for a moment before you finish that thought.


are you purposefully trying to get lynched before HF for some reason???

is HF mass murderer???
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