On December 09 2014 22:45 liancourt wrote:+ Show Spoiler +i thought this was going to be a light game with post restrictions.
The amount of people sadly counterbalances this. ;;
setup talk/fluffOn December 09 2014 22:54 LoneMeow wrote:
Honestly if I see one more post from LightningStrike with the word "meta" in it my brain is going to explode.
I fear the same will happen to me.
useless commentOn December 09 2014 22:58 Koshi wrote:
Everybody is allowed and even adviced to completely ignore Kush. There is no use talking to him. We will have to deal with him D2 or D3.
This is a dangerous thing to assume. If he actually is scrooge then he probably dies night one.
I'm actually really annoyed. As I said earlier, I believe that Scrooge is vital to this game, as he is the primary target of four different roles. He is almost certainly in this game, even if it's not kush. Unfortunately, if Marley is in this game we are probably sunk if Kush is, in fact, Scrooge.
At the same time, if Scrooge dies, we have three useless town roles that could claim.
Everyone understands this, setup talkOn December 09 2014 23:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Koshi, why Templar "paying attention" is something so relevant to you?
Why is this so important to you?
reply to a post directed at someone elseOn December 10 2014 00:10 Tubesock wrote:Holy Moses.
I didn't think I was such a slow reader but it's been hours and I feel I will never catch up to the thread while taking notes also. I'm trying to get reads, but they are conflicting with people who I feel are pretty freaking smart sounding. Namely, Koshi and Xata.
Koshi, since you are here can you tell me more about your HTS read? I feel I'm fairly null/town on her. Namely, I believe that Froggy's plynch statement isn't meaningful. Bunny latches and basically posts it's probably bad but she thinks it's ok. Then scum lists Froggy. Then several people jump on her and later Dam asks HTS about the Froggy/plynch read. HTS replies that it's null on his part but Bunnies scum listing is scummy. HTS doesn't seem to scumlist Froggy. Then a bunch more people argue (kelsierSC, Bats, Viv others). I'd like to know why I should elevate the signifigance of HTS's reads and downplay Bunny's?
Also I think people should read this more closely from the OP:
Show nested quote +On December 04 2014 19:32 Palmar wrote:Setup Information
All the roles below can be present in the game, and
no role has any sort of a guarantee that it exists in the game. There may for example be three Ghosts of Christmas Yet To Come, no other Ghosts and no Scrooge, yet Marley might be present. In the same sense, there may be Disgruntled Christmas Workers without any Santas or Branch Managers.
There may also be multiple instances of the same role.
It appears that given bad enough RNG we could have 6 Marlows, or 6 Mass Murderers, or 0.
Which makes me wonder why we had a Scrooge claim?? It makes me wonder if any claims will matter as we can have multiples...so why not counterclaim?
There will almost certainly not be 6 mass murderers. MM is a mafia role, and there can only be as many MMs as mafia. Plus, the game is presumably balanced, so if there are 6 MMs, there is enough town power to compensate.
There was a scrooge claim because
someone said there should be a scrooge claim.
setup talkOn December 10 2014 00:21 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, I had a present and I sent it to a player around 12 hours ago, I believe. Please don't reveal yourself but know that you've received it by a townie who isn't named VT.
Bye.
So, you're claiming a role. Great. Why?
He's claiming 'not named VT' which to most people means 'not joyful child' which was relevant at the time since there was speculation as to who started with presents*yawn, yawn, skip through a bunch of useless posts around page 43*
What has the use of the other posts you commented on been?On December 10 2014 02:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'm laughing so hard right now. Like so hard.
I love the votes on me, I really do. Im doing a bit of rereading, but I won't br able to make a huge post until after my final today.
That being said, I noticed some things after I left for my date (which went amazing btw. I got serenaded. So fucking hot)
So people were curious as to why I put 2/3 town who were jumping on the froggy scum thing. That's because I was reading then town for posts they said that werent in regards to froggy at all. The reason I put froggy as iffy was because, 1. I said his post wasnt alignment indicative, but that doesnt mean I have a read on him. He hadnt said anything else up to the point I posted my reads, so I put him as iffy for not having a read.
Im only up to page 21, so I have a long way to go, but Ill try and read through quick and posts thoughts along the way. If you have questions for me Ill be more than happy to answer.
Keep in mind you are lynching a town here. Im hoping to be able to redeem myself.
To victory boys and girls!
looks like a mafia post, although this may be my intentionally-not-christmas-color tinted glasses. I don't think so. It has the same tone as the post you made before there were 9 votes on you.
"This is a mafia post because your tone is similar to before you were voted" zzzOn December 10 2014 02:20 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 02:10 Tubesock wrote:On December 10 2014 02:04 Vivax wrote:
Why do you scumlist froggy, tube?
Crap, I didn't. I think he's null. Shit, I totally meant I scum 27NB for her posts that were wishy washy on Froggy but later scum lists him and continues talking about her boobs being too big for bras. I should have put quotations. Sorry, It's 3 am here and I'm fading. But can't sleep cause this stupid game is consuming me.
On December 10 2014 02:03 Damdred wrote:
Well tube do you believe template role claim?
No, I am discarding his Santa "claim" and I think I saw another but I didn't give it any credence. I need to go back and reread that.
I don't think he ever made a Santa claim at all... He did make a joy claim though
I put myself into the role of Santa before realizing that I was probably claiming for doing so. I may or may not be Santa.
fluff, nobody would claim santa before getting a checkOn December 10 2014 02:26 Damdred wrote:
Meh we asked template for a story he delivered I wouldn't lynch a claimed named vt today I believe.
kush did this stunt in the anime mafia game as town as well....so there's that
Joyful child isn't a named VT as far as we know. Elf could just as easily be the named VT.
setup talkOn December 10 2014 03:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
300posts to read after sleeping. Can someone give me the death present please?
Give it to me pls ;;
useful post to comment onOn December 10 2014 05:16 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 04:39 froggynoddy wrote:
Why do you keep saying this is doublespeak? This is not double speak fella. I think you should explain why you seem to think so as I don't think I can explain myself any better than I already have.
On another note I don't like lists (apart from Santa's of course). Way too easy to appear town without actually doing anything to benefit town.
FOS:
Ninja (i.e. defends me without really defending - adds a list - no other content or justification)
and possibly Templar (list, does no justify reads, everything posted so far is just description of other people's reads - fluff - or overreaction)
Still reading...
.....Becasue it is double speak. Don't policy lynch, lynching lurkers is a form of policy lynching, in a big game a good scum strategy is to lurk and they are a ok lynch?
Reading up on the Froggy posts.
why is this quote here?On December 10 2014 04:10 froggynoddy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 09 2014 08:25 Damdred wrote:
Ritoky, HF, Templar are in my town pile. Slam is tentatively town
Froggynoddy is in scum pile
Bats I thought you weren't goin to make the opening salvo?
On December 09 2014 08:23 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 08:20 froggynoddy wrote:
Gogogo.
RNG sounds pretty silly. Though at least it would create some content and stop people from lurking.
On the subject of lurking. having not played in a while... when I did play, town usually spent Day 1 arguing on whether to lynch lurkers, I assume this is still the case. I have to go to bed now (work in the morning) but pre-empting this topic lets just cut to the chase and all agree nicely that policy lynching is stupid, however in the absence of a decent slip to go on, lurkers are the best of bad lynch options.
So what you're saying is policy lynches are terrible but if it all goes sour you want to policy lynch??
On December 09 2014 08:22 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 08:20 froggynoddy wrote:
Gogogo.
RNG sounds pretty silly. Though at least it would create some content and stop people from lurking.
On the subject of lurking. having not played in a while... when I did play, town usually spent Day 1 arguing on whether to lynch lurkers, I assume this is still the case. I have to go to bed now (work in the morning) but pre-empting this topic lets just cut to the chase and all agree nicely that policy lynching is stupid, however in the absence of a decent slip to go on, lurkers are the best of bad lynch options.
-5 town points for this post, going into the bad boy category tonight
##Unvote TemplarStory shows awesomeness
On December 09 2014 08:30 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 08:27 KelsierSC wrote:On December 09 2014 08:25 Damdred wrote:
Ritoky, HF, Templar are in my town pile. Slam is tentatively town
Froggynoddy is in scum pile
Bats I thought you weren't goin to make the opening salvo?
i like how you can already split your town and tentative town
Cause i'm comfortable puttinng hf rit and templar into a pile, slam is slam so i'm not comfortable putting him with my other new town toys yet.
Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 08:27 27ninjabunnies wrote:On December 09 2014 08:25 Damdred wrote:
Ritoky, HF, Templar are in my town pile. Slam is tentatively town
Froggynoddy is in scum pile
Bats I thought you weren't goin to make the opening salvo?
Curious on your thought process here hun.
What did Froggy do, or not do, to be put into your scum pile?
Cause he made a pretty bad post that boiled down to, lets agree lynching lurkers is a bad thing but i'd be ok with lynching lurkers.
Ok, perhaps I should explain things a little more simply. My statement can be broken down as follows
1.
ANY policy
(including lurker lynching) is bad because it stops people from scumhunting;2. Lurking is still a valid criteria to lynch on, however it is just one of many criteria and should be given its appropriate weight;
3. It's DAY1, therefore we are not going to have much evidence/criteria to go on.
Furthermore, this is a relatively large game. As such
its an easy scum tactic to lurk whilst town lynches someone who is involved in the thread on very poor evidence (again because this is the nature of day 1 lynches), therefore lurking is a decent criteria to justify a lynch at this stage, just not one that warrants a policy.
I shall read rest of the thread now...
So, I got from this that scum hunting is important, but that day 1 lynches are based on poor evidence and therefore shouldn't be done because scum will be lurking, HOWEVER lynching possible lurking scum completely prevents scum hunting. Wahaaaaaat?
misinterpreted post, lynching lurkers hinders scumhinting because you spend 0 time hunting when you lynch a lurker since the only reason is that they are lurkingHowever, I am OK with his read on me, despite it being one of the most negative ones in the thread. This is, of course, the only reasonable thing I have seen. It has, so far, taken him 6 hours to not come up with a read. He said he was reading through the thread and didn't really give any evidence of this.
Adding to naughty list for now.
The only read in the entire postOn December 10 2014 07:50 liancourt wrote:+ Show Spoiler +low content game they said
how wrong they were
3~4 filter max they said
already near 50 pages and its not even end of day 1
total ragnorak they said
do u want to build a snowman?
I'm disappointed by how much everyone is spamming too. It's like me on other areas of this site.
another comment on posting speedMy mother is leaning over my shoulder and asking why I'm spending so much time on one post. Speeding through thread...
On December 10 2014 09:34 KelsierSC wrote:
So i need to sleep and conserve posts.
I'm going to finish off my town circle tomorrow morning and then lynch into whoever is left.
I'm going to add templar to my town circle, initially he was nl for his story, but his posts did have reads and i really like his reentry post, i agree with all his reads, he doesn't like gb, doesn't like ls, on my phone can't remember 3rd read...maybe it was nb. Ah i knew i liked it though.
its interesting 2 people , one after the other, say my play is one liners or fluffy but ive actually made plays and given substantial reads rather than just spam inane bs in spoiler tags.
I must have missed it, who said your posts were fluffy? I think they are pretty short but on-topic. You really need to slow down your posting though, you're going to reach the limit soon.
And yes, a lot of your posts are one-liners. Some are two lines.
zzzzzzOn December 10 2014 09:37 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 04:39 froggynoddy wrote:
Why do you keep saying this is doublespeak? This is not double speak fella. I think you should explain why you seem to think so as I don't think I can explain myself any better than I already have.
On another note I don't like lists (apart from Santa's of course). Way too easy to appear town without actually doing anything to benefit town.
FOS:
Ninja (i.e. defends me without really defending - adds a list - no other content or justification)
and possibly Templar (list, does no justify reads, everything posted so far is just description of other people's reads - fluff - or overreaction)
Still reading...
Also, how jerky is this?
I defend his ass saying his post is not alignment indicative. Go through hell for it, and he fucking scum reads me.
What is this shit?
Also 4 posts? Never should have defended you.
? I do this too. Just because you say he's town doesn't mean he has to recuperate. Stop expecting gifts from people. More coal in your stocking.
reciprocate*On December 10 2014 10:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay Templar I forgot to answer your questions and I will answer now
Within those stories there were reads, also possible questions for other players. Also you had some good questions trying to lead a discussion in this game for a bit so that why I town read you.
Damdred is more of a meta reason why I think he is town because his posting is pretty similar how was in Student Mafia which I played with him. OWS again meta reasons that I think he town since his play seemed to mimic his town play on Russia Today game for his Day 1 stuff. I also changed my views on sicklucker after learning his shenanigans was the present claim I concluded that he is in fact his normal self for town which have mix of wacky shenanigans to force early town reads and some non sense it just how he is.
Your answer on why you considered my posts towny. Other people seem to think I was restating a lot in the thread and didn't have original content. What parts of my posts do you think were thought-provoking?
decent questionDamdred/OWS: I know you seem to like to compare people to how they were in a recent game you played, but I don't consider this sufficient evidence. One game, unless it is the entirety of one's play or it's very distinctive (see S1CKLuCk3R), could, from my experience, be outdated evidence or an outlier unless it is in line with other games.
'I dislike meta reads' some people think this wayOn December 10 2014 10:09 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 10:04 rsoultin wrote:
Yes, yes, see his post count. See how he plays. LS is clearly new too. @27NB
The sarcasm is real in this one
Lol, 2000 plus posts. Yeah not new.
Okay...
So yeah, kita... GG
Where is the relevance in the LS read ?
Or where you said that why isn't FF reading Tube and LS the same, when they aren't both new?
I have 34,000 posts. Would you like to guess how many games of mafia I've played on TL?
zzzzzzzzzOn December 10 2014 10:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Cool, townslam.
I think this game is going to be easy.
How has his play differed from when you read him scum?
another ok question
EPT
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