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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 18 2014 16:17 GMT
#4061
On December 19 2014 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 23:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:43 Holyflare wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Holyflare's case on Templar is good, by the way
It's a shame I have such strong scumread on you


Yes well you're as awful as ever or are mafia and I'm leaning the latter, quite heavily. If you aren't mafia then you'll be getting lynched next cycle after I flip and would have singlehandedly lost the entire game because you're too stubborn to realise you are wrong.


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"Ok"

Hijole GB how often u understand the español with your Portuguese?

Hiiiiiijole

Mi Español esta feo


I can understand almost everything with it
I can even try to speak a hybrid (Portuñol ) but I'll have some mistakes like the "contundent" I had before in English.
I'm adorable.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22391 Posts
December 18 2014 16:17 GMT
#4062
On December 19 2014 01:08 Holyflare wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uabxs5rkt237b5q/vivaxhfcontract.docx?dl=0

Vivax, I have formed the required document and I request that you sign it and provide 2 witnesses to also sign said document in your presence.


I won't fall for the indemnification part, you vote em or I lynch you
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 18 2014 16:18 GMT
#4063
What is this about vote consolidation over 24 hrs before eod? What is this about criticizing someone for sticking with a read that they feel more sure of? Is everyone in this thread high? If xata sticks with one scumread over another at eod , in a race against someone he is not reading as scum, then you have a case. you guys make no sense to me. i think that lurking players could be scum too.

Yay lynch the lurkers. yet ill still try to lynch someone im more certain of first. how is that scummy so long as end game im willing to adjust to try to lynch the most likely scum who has a possibility of being lynched? Why dont you guys try to lynch me for the same thing youre badgering xata about?

And everyone is conveniently ignoring xatas point that vivax first argues scum acting like obvious scum then flips and says they never would. i dont even -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 18 2014 16:24 GMT
#4064
Saves "Hijo le" y significado diferenté? Jajaja

Si muchos hombres usar en mi trabajando

"Hiiiijole CHINGA le SEMANA!"

Estas enojados
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 16:25 GMT
#4065
On December 19 2014 01:18 rsoultin wrote:
What is this about vote consolidation over 24 hrs before eod? What is this about criticizing someone for sticking with a read that they feel more sure of? Is everyone in this thread high? If xata sticks with one scumread over another at eod , in a race against someone he is not reading as scum, then you have a case. you guys make no sense to me. i think that lurking players could be scum too.

Yay lynch the lurkers. yet ill still try to lynch someone im more certain of first. how is that scummy so long as end game im willing to adjust to try to lynch the most likely scum who has a possibility of being lynched? Why dont you guys try to lynch me for the same thing youre badgering xata about?

And everyone is conveniently ignoring xatas point that vivax first argues scum acting like obvious scum then flips and says they never would. i dont even -_-


I do not want another lynch like the one that happened the other day where I almost died. I want a nice consolidated thread where I know where everyone lies and for what reasons so that I can judge them on what they are posting. There's nothing wrong with consolidating at 24 hours, 12 hours, 1 hour if you have cases on 2 people.

That read on gb has been out there for ages and my templar one has only just come up. Literally all of my templar case is damning but he says it's more of an overall case rather than someone doing scummy things outright but doesn't really explain how it's like that at all when it's not. There should be no difference between the 2 cases if they both look like mafia because 1 has done stupid retarded shit all game and the other has done scummy tootling along in the thread things, both are scummy but he tries to assign different levels of scummyness to people that are just scummy. What's the point other than trying to over explain why you are on someone rather than the other?

There isn't really at all.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 18 2014 16:26 GMT
#4066
On December 19 2014 01:18 rsoultin wrote:
What is this about vote consolidation over 24 hrs before eod? What is this about criticizing someone for sticking with a read that they feel more sure of? Is everyone in this thread high? If xata sticks with one scumread over another at eod , in a race against someone he is not reading as scum, then you have a case. you guys make no sense to me. i think that lurking players could be scum too.

Yay lynch the lurkers. yet ill still try to lynch someone im more certain of first. how is that scummy so long as end game im willing to adjust to try to lynch the most likely scum who has a possibility of being lynched? Why dont you guys try to lynch me for the same thing youre badgering xata about?

And everyone is conveniently ignoring xatas point that vivax first argues scum acting like obvious scum then flips and says they never would. i dont even -_-

But hallucinogenic drugs led to more awareness for the need to grow organic produce

It is literally in the USDA approved organic conference papers
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22391 Posts
December 18 2014 16:26 GMT
#4067
On December 19 2014 01:18 rsoultin wrote:
What is this about vote consolidation over 24 hrs before eod? What is this about criticizing someone for sticking with a read that they feel more sure of? Is everyone in this thread high? If xata sticks with one scumread over another at eod , in a race against someone he is not reading as scum, then you have a case. you guys make no sense to me. i think that lurking players could be scum too.

Yay lynch the lurkers. yet ill still try to lynch someone im more certain of first. how is that scummy so long as end game im willing to adjust to try to lynch the most likely scum who has a possibility of being lynched? Why dont you guys try to lynch me for the same thing youre badgering xata about?

And everyone is conveniently ignoring xatas point that vivax first argues scum acting like obvious scum then flips and says they never would. i dont even -_-


Well for him they should equally be scum but he finds a reason to lynch one scum first. It's not that he thinks Templar has some townie points to him, it's that he says he isn't pushing mafia agenda openly and doesn't have to be lynched so quickly. I have no idea how that doesn't sound like a cheap excuse to you. For me, mafia is mafia. Whether you vote Oats, Templar or Xata (HF I'm least sure on tbh, biggest argument for me is still ritoky voting Kelsier and bats dying from pressing that point) doesn't matter to me.

Like, the only reason for me to prefer a scum over the other is when I'm more confident about one guy over the other, and not the way they play in the thread, yet that is Xata's argument. He goes like "Oh well Templar is scum too, but cause he plays more passively I wouldn't lynch him first".
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 18 2014 16:33 GMT
#4068
SL - read your post top of page 200.
- Your third quote from GB - he's using setup here. Anything setup related is entirely speculative. Vivax (I believe it was him) provided an alternative setup to that, so I'm not sure how setup implicates anyone or provides alignment indicative information. I don't think your post is a very strong one when you try and use that.

Holyflare, regarding your case page 201.
- Generally speaking I didn't like how Templar wasn't participatory and had a weaker scumread on him as of last cycle
- The case you have on Templar is very solid altogether, especially using the meta to back it up.

Both appear to have different styles of playing scum in the cases illustrated, and I would think not all scum are going play the same way on a single scum team. I made that point in Student Mafia IV that it was more unlikely that all scummers would play the same way, with two of them out of the way in this game, it is a reasonable assumption here assuming 3 remain.

I could vote for either GB or Templar based on what has been presented.

(Sidenotes:
HF - 10/10 on the contract lol
Vivax - did you really have to post that visual on page 203? ugh)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 18 2014 16:35 GMT
#4069
On December 19 2014 01:24 Alakaslam wrote:
Saves "Hijo le" y significado diferenté? Jajaja

Si muchos hombres usar en mi trabajando

"Hiiiijole CHINGA le SEMANA!"

Estas enojados


I'm not mad. Hijole isn't a word in Portuguese and there is no similar... I think it could be something like "WOW" or "GODDAMNIT!"

Chinga le semana HAHAHAHAHA
PORRA DE SEMANA!!!
I'm adorable.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 16:38 GMT
#4070
On December 19 2014 01:17 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 01:08 Holyflare wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uabxs5rkt237b5q/vivaxhfcontract.docx?dl=0

Vivax, I have formed the required document and I request that you sign it and provide 2 witnesses to also sign said document in your presence.


I won't fall for the indemnification part, you vote em or I lynch you


you bad at law bro, the indemnification part is so you can't do anything to me after the contract has ended or claim for things that arose out of the contract
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 18 2014 16:41 GMT
#4071
On December 19 2014 01:38 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 01:17 Vivax wrote:
On December 19 2014 01:08 Holyflare wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uabxs5rkt237b5q/vivaxhfcontract.docx?dl=0

Vivax, I have formed the required document and I request that you sign it and provide 2 witnesses to also sign said document in your presence.


I won't fall for the indemnification part, you vote em or I lynch you


you bad at law bro, the indemnification part is so you can't do anything to me after the contract has ended or claim for things that arose out of the contract


I thought it was for breach of contract...?
I'm adorable.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 16:47 GMT
#4072
On December 19 2014 01:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 01:38 Holyflare wrote:
On December 19 2014 01:17 Vivax wrote:
On December 19 2014 01:08 Holyflare wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uabxs5rkt237b5q/vivaxhfcontract.docx?dl=0

Vivax, I have formed the required document and I request that you sign it and provide 2 witnesses to also sign said document in your presence.


I won't fall for the indemnification part, you vote em or I lynch you


you bad at law bro, the indemnification part is so you can't do anything to me after the contract has ended or claim for things that arose out of the contract


I thought it was for breach of contract...?


well it's specifically worded for after the contract seeing as there are other clauses for late payment and failure to provide the service
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 16:49 GMT
#4073
On December 18 2014 22:41 marvellosity wrote:
Counting a week to Christmas

GlowingBear (3): LightningStrike, rsoultin, Alakaslam, LightningStrike, Half the Sky
Holyflare (6): sicklucker, LightningStrike, liancourt, Vivax, Alakaslam, The_Templar, GlowingBear
The_Templar (1): Holyflare

Currently Holyflare is set to be lynched. Ages until deadline.




this is a poor show btw
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 18 2014 16:50 GMT
#4074
On December 19 2014 01:47 Holyflare wrote:
well it's specifically worded for after the contract seeing as there are other clauses for late payment and failure to provide the service


I'll admit I had quite a laugh, HF

13. Payment Penalties

13. In the event that the Customer does not comply with the rates, amounts, or payment dates provided in this Agreement, a late payment penalty will be charged as follows:

o 10 spanks on the bottom will be charged in the event of a late payment.

14. Performance Penalties

14. If the Service Provider does not perform the Services within the time frame provided
by this Agreement, a performance penalty will be charged as follows:

o Holyflare will be lynched in the event of non-performance.

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 18 2014 16:54 GMT
#4075
On December 19 2014 00:58 Vivax wrote:
Xatalos is clearly squirming after saying that the only reason he prefers GB is that he's pushing scum agenda "more openly", cause it's very important to put an end to his poisonous thread influence while templar doesn't do anything of the sort and only scums in silence, so he deserves to live a bit longer (lol).

Xata if you were town it would be in your best interest to vote Templar cause he's likely to gain more traction than GB which would also prevent your townread HF from being lynched, and yet now you put it like you have reasons to believe one is more likely scum than the other??? What's giving you the feel that Templar could be town?

Nothing, but ... (insert your excuse here)


Ugh.... It feels like you make less and less sense each day. It's not like I have a huge preference between them. Let me ask you a question: there are players A and B, both of whom look like scum. You think A has done more scummy things and should have slight preference. However, you're willing to lynch both of them. Now why would you put down your vote on B first? You can just consolidate on B later if needed.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 18 2014 16:55 GMT
#4076
While we're at it, Vivax, why is YOUR vote on your "weakest scumread"?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 16:56 GMT
#4077
On December 19 2014 01:54 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 00:58 Vivax wrote:
Xatalos is clearly squirming after saying that the only reason he prefers GB is that he's pushing scum agenda "more openly", cause it's very important to put an end to his poisonous thread influence while templar doesn't do anything of the sort and only scums in silence, so he deserves to live a bit longer (lol).

Xata if you were town it would be in your best interest to vote Templar cause he's likely to gain more traction than GB which would also prevent your townread HF from being lynched, and yet now you put it like you have reasons to believe one is more likely scum than the other??? What's giving you the feel that Templar could be town?

Nothing, but ... (insert your excuse here)


Ugh.... It feels like you make less and less sense each day. It's not like I have a huge preference between them. Let me ask you a question: there are players A and B, both of whom look like scum. You think A has done more scummy things and should have slight preference. However, you're willing to lynch both of them. Now why would you put down your vote on B first? You can just consolidate on B later if needed.


On December 19 2014 00:38 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 00:26 Holyflare wrote:
literally everything in my case makes him mafia unless you can prove that there is towny motivation behind it so to have a difference in care of who to vote is, like vivax said, fucking weird


The question is which is the best lynch, not if Templar is a *good* lynch or not. Like I said, I think your case is decent.


there is no best lynch if they are both mafia though because it's simply just lynching mafia =.=
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 18 2014 16:59 GMT
#4078
On December 19 2014 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 01:18 rsoultin wrote:
What is this about vote consolidation over 24 hrs before eod? What is this about criticizing someone for sticking with a read that they feel more sure of? Is everyone in this thread high? If xata sticks with one scumread over another at eod , in a race against someone he is not reading as scum, then you have a case. you guys make no sense to me. i think that lurking players could be scum too.

Yay lynch the lurkers. yet ill still try to lynch someone im more certain of first. how is that scummy so long as end game im willing to adjust to try to lynch the most likely scum who has a possibility of being lynched? Why dont you guys try to lynch me for the same thing youre badgering xata about?

And everyone is conveniently ignoring xatas point that vivax first argues scum acting like obvious scum then flips and says they never would. i dont even -_-


I do not want another lynch like the one that happened the other day where I almost died. I want a nice consolidated thread where I know where everyone lies and for what reasons so that I can judge them on what they are posting. There's nothing wrong with consolidating at 24 hours, 12 hours, 1 hour if you have cases on 2 people.

That read on gb has been out there for ages and my templar one has only just come up. Literally all of my templar case is damning but he says it's more of an overall case rather than someone doing scummy things outright but doesn't really explain how it's like that at all when it's not. There should be no difference between the 2 cases if they both look like mafia because 1 has done stupid retarded shit all game and the other has done scummy tootling along in the thread things, both are scummy but he tries to assign different levels of scummyness to people that are just scummy. What's the point other than trying to over explain why you are on someone rather than the other?

There isn't really at all.


If you have 3 people who look like scum and you get to decide the lynch, do you just randomize the lynch? I didn't think so.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 16:59 GMT
#4079
this game feels so fucking peaceful when it's full of actual content and reads btw so i might just afk when sicklucker/lian turn up with their usual shit
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 17:00 GMT
#4080
On December 19 2014 01:59 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
On December 19 2014 01:18 rsoultin wrote:
What is this about vote consolidation over 24 hrs before eod? What is this about criticizing someone for sticking with a read that they feel more sure of? Is everyone in this thread high? If xata sticks with one scumread over another at eod , in a race against someone he is not reading as scum, then you have a case. you guys make no sense to me. i think that lurking players could be scum too.

Yay lynch the lurkers. yet ill still try to lynch someone im more certain of first. how is that scummy so long as end game im willing to adjust to try to lynch the most likely scum who has a possibility of being lynched? Why dont you guys try to lynch me for the same thing youre badgering xata about?

And everyone is conveniently ignoring xatas point that vivax first argues scum acting like obvious scum then flips and says they never would. i dont even -_-


I do not want another lynch like the one that happened the other day where I almost died. I want a nice consolidated thread where I know where everyone lies and for what reasons so that I can judge them on what they are posting. There's nothing wrong with consolidating at 24 hours, 12 hours, 1 hour if you have cases on 2 people.

That read on gb has been out there for ages and my templar one has only just come up. Literally all of my templar case is damning but he says it's more of an overall case rather than someone doing scummy things outright but doesn't really explain how it's like that at all when it's not. There should be no difference between the 2 cases if they both look like mafia because 1 has done stupid retarded shit all game and the other has done scummy tootling along in the thread things, both are scummy but he tries to assign different levels of scummyness to people that are just scummy. What's the point other than trying to over explain why you are on someone rather than the other?

There isn't really at all.


If you have 3 people who look like scum and you get to decide the lynch, do you just randomize the lynch? I didn't think so.


I just wouldn't really care who gets lynched and for all I care flipping a coin on them would be the best way to choose.
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