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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
December 18 2014 14:47 GMT
#4041
"Hey bro I think you're scum but I'm not gonna lynch you cause at least you don't do the things evil scum does"

BAAAAAAD
LIIEEEEE
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 18 2014 14:51 GMT
#4042
WTF are you saying now Vivax. I really don't get you. First you're saying that scum would almost always simply NK the players who are threatening them and then you say that they'd never do stuff with direct scum motivations in the thread? The logic doesn't check here. If you believe that scum would be always willing to incriminate themselves by focusing on killing the players that are after them, then it should obviously follow that it's not too weird to directly do stuff favorable for scum.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 18 2014 14:53 GMT
#4043
In the end, that's all WIFOM. If people do really scummy stuff, they're probably scum. It's as simple as that.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
December 18 2014 15:01 GMT
#4044
I don't want to question the validity of that.
What I'm questioning is that in the post you just wrote, that particular part looks like

[image loading]

And when I saw it,
my incorporated lie detector immediately tingled.

It's nothing a townie writes, cause townies won't find such a justification to put one lynch ahead of the other.

They won't find such an excuse for their own scumread, like, if you think GB is scum and is pushing mafia agenda, WHO CARES.

Nobody is following through with what he suggests, you have no motivation to defend Templar by saying he's not pushing mafia agenda, except when you're scum intent on delaying his lynch, or justifying why you prefer GB over him.

It's a steaming poopy lie, like the bunnies stuff you wrote D1 when you first defended and then voted her.

@ HF

Here's a contract if you don't want me to lynch you.

I hereby solemnly declare that

[ ] My lynch for today will be Templar and only Templar, I will adhere to the case I wrote and not try to squirm out of that lynch.
[ ] My lynch for tomorrow will be Xatalos, for he is obvious lying scum.
[ ] This is totally not a blackmail.

If you don't agree to this contract I will see myself forced to vote for you cause you always disagreed with me on Xatalos and I will be forced to assume that you're protecting him on purpose.

Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 18 2014 15:09 GMT
#4045
When have I defended Templar? He's a perfectly valid lynch. He just hasn't done things that couldn't be potentially explained by some sort of town motivation (or lack of scum motivation)... Unlike GB. So it's the safer bet right now.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
December 18 2014 15:16 GMT
#4046
Well if he's a perfectly valid lynch then I want you to vote for him now cause according to what you say now there's not much difference between him and GB if they're both scum, right?

I'll be voting Templar before GB any day, so either you go for a compromise or you keep your vote on GB leading to less consolidated wagons, proving to have a scummy bias and a particular desire to favour GB over Templar cause Templar is sneakier and GB does the "obvious scummy stuff".

Show me how perfectly valid of a lynch he is. Can you change your vote and keep it there without squirming?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 15:23 GMT
#4047
On December 19 2014 00:16 Vivax wrote:
Well if he's a perfectly valid lynch then I want you to vote for him now cause according to what you say now there's not much difference between him and GB if they're both scum, right?

I'll be voting Templar before GB any day, so either you go for a compromise or you keep your vote on GB leading to less consolidated wagons, proving to have a scummy bias and a particular desire to favour GB over Templar cause Templar is sneakier and GB does the "obvious scummy stuff".

Show me how perfectly valid of a lynch he is. Can you change your vote and keep it there without squirming?



^ quite the truth here


also I refuse to sign your contract until I have drafted a full legally binding one which I request your signature upon
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 18 2014 15:25 GMT
#4048
I can change it if necessary to lynch Templar. Dunno why I should change it right now when it's GB vs HF though. Besides, I still think GB looks a bit worse than Templar.

Do you have some reason to believe Templar is more likely scum than GB?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
December 18 2014 15:26 GMT
#4049
Hey xatalos, can you please stop repeating the same two things over and over without actual reasons? thanks
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 15:26 GMT
#4050
literally everything in my case makes him mafia unless you can prove that there is towny motivation behind it so to have a difference in care of who to vote is, like vivax said, fucking weird
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 15:30 GMT
#4051
rsoul's case on gb has been posted for like a cycle and a half already so all he did was repost what he's already said and it somehow suddenly convinced you from voting templar to voting gb
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 18 2014 15:37 GMT
#4052
On December 19 2014 00:30 Holyflare wrote:
rsoul's case on gb has been posted for like a cycle and a half already so all he did was repost what he's already said and it somehow suddenly convinced you from voting templar to voting gb


I voted GB yesterday though, not Templar. Until ritoky slipped. When did I go from Templar to GB?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 18 2014 15:38 GMT
#4053
On December 19 2014 00:26 Holyflare wrote:
literally everything in my case makes him mafia unless you can prove that there is towny motivation behind it so to have a difference in care of who to vote is, like vivax said, fucking weird


The question is which is the best lynch, not if Templar is a *good* lynch or not. Like I said, I think your case is decent.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 15:42 GMT
#4054
I was under the assumption you'd instantly vote for templar after agreeing with the case. It's what I expect everyone to do, yet I don't really see anyone doing it. Strange (not really because he's mafia).

It's no question on who to vote for you because you just shouldn't give a shit if the cases are that good it's just lynching between 2 mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22383 Posts
December 18 2014 15:58 GMT
#4055
Xatalos is clearly squirming after saying that the only reason he prefers GB is that he's pushing scum agenda "more openly", cause it's very important to put an end to his poisonous thread influence while templar doesn't do anything of the sort and only scums in silence, so he deserves to live a bit longer (lol).

Xata if you were town it would be in your best interest to vote Templar cause he's likely to gain more traction than GB which would also prevent your townread HF from being lynched, and yet now you put it like you have reasons to believe one is more likely scum than the other??? What's giving you the feel that Templar could be town?

Nothing, but ... (insert your excuse here)
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 18 2014 15:58 GMT
#4056
On December 18 2014 23:32 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 22:43 Holyflare wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Holyflare's case on Templar is good, by the way
It's a shame I have such strong scumread on you


Yes well you're as awful as ever or are mafia and I'm leaning the latter, quite heavily. If you aren't mafia then you'll be getting lynched next cycle after I flip and would have singlehandedly lost the entire game because you're too stubborn to realise you are wrong.


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"Ok"

Hijole GB how often u understand the español with your Portuguese?

Hiiiiiijole

Mi Español esta feo
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 18 2014 16:00 GMT
#4057
Basaaaaaaddd liiiieeee, says Pete

"You're not even going the right way... Hello? Hello?"
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 16:08 GMT
#4058
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uabxs5rkt237b5q/vivaxhfcontract.docx?dl=0

Vivax, I have formed the required document and I request that you sign it and provide 2 witnesses to also sign said document in your presence.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 18 2014 16:08 GMT
#4059
Look at this, I am a joyful child making wisecracks about & with the creepy ghost in Christmas carol

Did I not say I am calvin?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 18 2014 16:10 GMT
#4060
On December 19 2014 01:08 Holyflare wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uabxs5rkt237b5q/vivaxhfcontract.docx?dl=0

Vivax, I have formed the required document and I request that you sign it and provide 2 witnesses to also sign said document in your presence.

Also, what kind of CHUPAZI is this?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
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