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On November 02 2014 11:02 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Reread your question:
I do think Damdred is townish, One: because while yes, it's now a majority lynch, town should be perfectly able to consolidate with another 24 hours, and quite frankly, the extra 24 hours are much more important for town.
In any event, what point would mafia Damdred have to gain by breadcrumbing and revealing himself? It just puts him under scrutiny here.
My read of his filter is unremarkable, outside his strong townread on jay. Which I find lulzy. I don't think you get what I am saying. I am saying prior to Damdred claiming, OWS was defending him as town; which I cannot personally see a reason for. The questions of him and the pressure was from a legitimate angle. You then say this: Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut.
His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post.
Which means that you find it reasonable that he was defending damdred and calling him town before he claimed; implying you agreed with his assessment. I want to know why? Cuz it sure as shit makes no sense to me.
Hold up.
Why is it that my defense of Damdred is bad? The whole issue with Damdred was that a bunch of people went out and proved that he was being scumread for bad reasons, but you think the reasoning was good? Why is it that my defense is bad but you don't mention anything about LT's defense?
Instead, you went and scumread him for giving a generic opinion on something else. Idgi?
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No damdy. This is Avogadro all over again.
I will sleep now and step up tomorrow if I find the energy to do so.
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i'm reading slam on pg 47 and he's on fking fire what has he been smoking lately??? He's not trolling and putting some deep insightful shit. Holy moly this is the reason why I read him town every game. He trolls 90% but then bam! You get knocked off ur knockers because of that post you never think of but makes sense when you read it.
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I'm actually not sure if I misread ritoky's post. I think I might be going insane.
I will be back in some time to see if I've completely lost my mind or not.
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On November 02 2014 11:23 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 09:53 Lord Tolkien wrote:On November 02 2014 05:42 jaybrundage wrote:On November 02 2014 05:23 Lord Tolkien wrote:
and pls, I'm not actually a lynch. No one ever lynches me D1, I'm just a placeholder. First time for everything. As Aunt May once said "You're not Superman, you know" Just so you know, in the contest of this quote you're Uncle Ben Aha, but you forget. + Show Spoiler +I find this tunneling on me cute jay. What I don't find cute is this whole GB train going. Ugh, I'm still reading GB as town despite being horrendous this game. No, you aren't being passive this game but good god, really? Nein, neeeeein. Yeah, I'm being horrendous. I should be shifting the thread with catch up reads like BH. Or spamming jokes. Or hiding lists. Or simply lurking. Yeah. Worst town player. RNG is god. Actually, we should RNG every single day. We could make programs that can play by themselves by just RNGing. Totes fun.
Nonono you only RNG d1
Then you start
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On November 02 2014 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 11:02 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Reread your question:
I do think Damdred is townish, One: because while yes, it's now a majority lynch, town should be perfectly able to consolidate with another 24 hours, and quite frankly, the extra 24 hours are much more important for town.
In any event, what point would mafia Damdred have to gain by breadcrumbing and revealing himself? It just puts him under scrutiny here.
My read of his filter is unremarkable, outside his strong townread on jay. Which I find lulzy. I don't think you get what I am saying. I am saying prior to Damdred claiming, OWS was defending him as town; which I cannot personally see a reason for. The questions of him and the pressure was from a legitimate angle. You then say this: On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut.
His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post.
Which means that you find it reasonable that he was defending damdred and calling him town before he claimed; implying you agreed with his assessment. I want to know why? Cuz it sure as shit makes no sense to me. Hold up. Why is it that my defense of Damdred is bad? The whole issue with Damdred was that a bunch of people went out and proved that he was being scumread for bad reasons, but you think the reasoning was good? Why is it that my defense is bad but you don't mention anything about LT's defense? Instead, you went and scumread him for giving a generic opinion on something else. Idgi?
Damdred clearly stated: I have notes, but fuck town I am not giving them out. That was not townie at all, and he was rightly pressured for it. You called him townie despite that, which is BAD. I think your reasoning was bad, and LT saying your filter was reasonable means he agrees that damdred deserved a town read PRIOR to claiming or using his power. Which is something I both cannot understand and cannot get behind. Especially when LT's reason is a "gut read" after 50 pages of content. That's a load of crap.
As for why your defense is bad, HF already did that well enough.
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On November 02 2014 11:48 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 11:02 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Reread your question:
I do think Damdred is townish, One: because while yes, it's now a majority lynch, town should be perfectly able to consolidate with another 24 hours, and quite frankly, the extra 24 hours are much more important for town.
In any event, what point would mafia Damdred have to gain by breadcrumbing and revealing himself? It just puts him under scrutiny here.
My read of his filter is unremarkable, outside his strong townread on jay. Which I find lulzy. I don't think you get what I am saying. I am saying prior to Damdred claiming, OWS was defending him as town; which I cannot personally see a reason for. The questions of him and the pressure was from a legitimate angle. You then say this: On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut.
His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post.
Which means that you find it reasonable that he was defending damdred and calling him town before he claimed; implying you agreed with his assessment. I want to know why? Cuz it sure as shit makes no sense to me. Hold up. Why is it that my defense of Damdred is bad? The whole issue with Damdred was that a bunch of people went out and proved that he was being scumread for bad reasons, but you think the reasoning was good? Why is it that my defense is bad but you don't mention anything about LT's defense? Instead, you went and scumread him for giving a generic opinion on something else. Idgi? Damdred clearly stated: I have notes, but fuck town I am not giving them out. That was not townie at all, and he was rightly pressured for it. You called him townie despite that, which is BAD. I think your reasoning was bad, and LT saying your filter was reasonable means he agrees that damdred deserved a town read PRIOR to claiming or using his power. Which is something I both cannot understand and cannot get behind. Especially when LT's reason is a "gut read" after 50 pages of content. That's a load of crap. As for why your defense is bad, HF already did that well enough.
I never called him town. I said the reasoning was bad.
And it was.
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On November 02 2014 11:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 11:48 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 11:02 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Reread your question:
I do think Damdred is townish, One: because while yes, it's now a majority lynch, town should be perfectly able to consolidate with another 24 hours, and quite frankly, the extra 24 hours are much more important for town.
In any event, what point would mafia Damdred have to gain by breadcrumbing and revealing himself? It just puts him under scrutiny here.
My read of his filter is unremarkable, outside his strong townread on jay. Which I find lulzy. I don't think you get what I am saying. I am saying prior to Damdred claiming, OWS was defending him as town; which I cannot personally see a reason for. The questions of him and the pressure was from a legitimate angle. You then say this: On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut.
His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post.
Which means that you find it reasonable that he was defending damdred and calling him town before he claimed; implying you agreed with his assessment. I want to know why? Cuz it sure as shit makes no sense to me. Hold up. Why is it that my defense of Damdred is bad? The whole issue with Damdred was that a bunch of people went out and proved that he was being scumread for bad reasons, but you think the reasoning was good? Why is it that my defense is bad but you don't mention anything about LT's defense? Instead, you went and scumread him for giving a generic opinion on something else. Idgi? Damdred clearly stated: I have notes, but fuck town I am not giving them out. That was not townie at all, and he was rightly pressured for it. You called him townie despite that, which is BAD. I think your reasoning was bad, and LT saying your filter was reasonable means he agrees that damdred deserved a town read PRIOR to claiming or using his power. Which is something I both cannot understand and cannot get behind. Especially when LT's reason is a "gut read" after 50 pages of content. That's a load of crap. As for why your defense is bad, HF already did that well enough. I never called him town. I said the reasoning was bad. And it was.
I interpret "I don't like a damdred lynch" as "hey this guy is at least leaning town for me".
And you think explicitly withholding information and reads is a good thing?
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On November 02 2014 11:53 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 11:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 11:48 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 11:02 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Reread your question:
I do think Damdred is townish, One: because while yes, it's now a majority lynch, town should be perfectly able to consolidate with another 24 hours, and quite frankly, the extra 24 hours are much more important for town.
In any event, what point would mafia Damdred have to gain by breadcrumbing and revealing himself? It just puts him under scrutiny here.
My read of his filter is unremarkable, outside his strong townread on jay. Which I find lulzy. I don't think you get what I am saying. I am saying prior to Damdred claiming, OWS was defending him as town; which I cannot personally see a reason for. The questions of him and the pressure was from a legitimate angle. You then say this: On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut.
His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post.
Which means that you find it reasonable that he was defending damdred and calling him town before he claimed; implying you agreed with his assessment. I want to know why? Cuz it sure as shit makes no sense to me. Hold up. Why is it that my defense of Damdred is bad? The whole issue with Damdred was that a bunch of people went out and proved that he was being scumread for bad reasons, but you think the reasoning was good? Why is it that my defense is bad but you don't mention anything about LT's defense? Instead, you went and scumread him for giving a generic opinion on something else. Idgi? Damdred clearly stated: I have notes, but fuck town I am not giving them out. That was not townie at all, and he was rightly pressured for it. You called him townie despite that, which is BAD. I think your reasoning was bad, and LT saying your filter was reasonable means he agrees that damdred deserved a town read PRIOR to claiming or using his power. Which is something I both cannot understand and cannot get behind. Especially when LT's reason is a "gut read" after 50 pages of content. That's a load of crap. As for why your defense is bad, HF already did that well enough. I never called him town. I said the reasoning was bad. And it was. I interpret "I don't like a damdred lynch" as "hey this guy is at least leaning town for me". And you think explicitly withholding information and reads is a good thing?
You are going to lose your mind when you play with someone who doesn't give reads on day 1.
I just looked over the HF case and that's bad too. Here's what it boils down to: "Obi doesn't agree with me so he's mafia."
It's funny, because I don't even think he's scummy for posting it. He tried to kill me in a different game because I didn't agree with him. It's really annoying to end up dealing with the exact same reasoning and expecting a different outcome.
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On November 02 2014 11:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 11:53 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 11:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 11:48 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 11:02 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Reread your question:
I do think Damdred is townish, One: because while yes, it's now a majority lynch, town should be perfectly able to consolidate with another 24 hours, and quite frankly, the extra 24 hours are much more important for town.
In any event, what point would mafia Damdred have to gain by breadcrumbing and revealing himself? It just puts him under scrutiny here.
My read of his filter is unremarkable, outside his strong townread on jay. Which I find lulzy. I don't think you get what I am saying. I am saying prior to Damdred claiming, OWS was defending him as town; which I cannot personally see a reason for. The questions of him and the pressure was from a legitimate angle. You then say this: On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut.
His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post.
Which means that you find it reasonable that he was defending damdred and calling him town before he claimed; implying you agreed with his assessment. I want to know why? Cuz it sure as shit makes no sense to me. Hold up. Why is it that my defense of Damdred is bad? The whole issue with Damdred was that a bunch of people went out and proved that he was being scumread for bad reasons, but you think the reasoning was good? Why is it that my defense is bad but you don't mention anything about LT's defense? Instead, you went and scumread him for giving a generic opinion on something else. Idgi? Damdred clearly stated: I have notes, but fuck town I am not giving them out. That was not townie at all, and he was rightly pressured for it. You called him townie despite that, which is BAD. I think your reasoning was bad, and LT saying your filter was reasonable means he agrees that damdred deserved a town read PRIOR to claiming or using his power. Which is something I both cannot understand and cannot get behind. Especially when LT's reason is a "gut read" after 50 pages of content. That's a load of crap. As for why your defense is bad, HF already did that well enough. I never called him town. I said the reasoning was bad. And it was. I interpret "I don't like a damdred lynch" as "hey this guy is at least leaning town for me". And you think explicitly withholding information and reads is a good thing? You are going to lose your mind when you play with someone who doesn't give reads on day 1. I just looked over the HF case and that's bad too. Here's what it boils down to: "Obi doesn't agree with me so he's mafia." It's funny, because I don't even think he's scummy for posting it. He tried to kill me in a different game because I didn't agree with him. It's really annoying to end up dealing with the exact same reasoning and expecting a different outcome.
I disagree. I think his case says the following:
1) damdred had done nothing to the point where he deserved anything more than a gut read leaning town.
2) damdred was doing things that were actively anti-town and deserved pressure.
3) OWS comes swooping in and starts calling damdred town before he has really done anything
4) THEN damdred claims and gives reads
so his issue is that it seems like you were ready to call him town pre-mature, before he had done anything to warrant it. maybe that's where you say the disagreement is; but frankly I am still waiting to see what he had done prior to claiming to deserve it. and not LT's weak BS.
overall i think LT is wayyyyy worse than you. your reasoning is bad reasoning but at least it's reasoning and you stick behind it. LT just grafted onto someone else's point, and when asked for a reason made up some of the weakest shit i have ever read. didn't even feel like he believed what he was typing. would lynch him right now.
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Hf said that his points on damdred being scum were infallible and I didn't agree with him based on nothing so I'm scum.
Which is wrong because the case on Damdred was provably bad, so it ends up boiling down to "Obi didn't agree with me so he's scum."
So thanks for not actually reading that post I guess.
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I hate it when people scumread others for poking holes in bad arguments. It's really stupid.
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On November 02 2014 07:51 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 07:44 Holyflare wrote:
like the only reason you pushed damdred is that he didn't have his notes and he's 100% scum for it (much like bh, ve etc etc) and now he has his notes and i'm "hard defending" someone you shouldn't even be scum reading anymore
like wtf? He had no scumreads. He put more effort to say why someone is town than to say why someone is mafia. When asked to make a list, he delays it for a lot of time, then comes back with notes with little content in them, drastically contrasting with his read on jay, which was much more in depth and which he says he just copy pasted. No post was quoted on his notes, just links. Why the jay read is so drastically different from every other? (Regarding writing style). He doesn't have a strong scumread HF, and you lynched bats for that. It makes me baffled that you didn't call damdred for that for so long. You have him time to write the list, HF. You know he could be writing them since I inquired damdred. Yet, when he had you his list; you were completely ok with that.
I remember this bats last game hard defended me when i was in a corner and it was the only thing he did and turned out to be scum.
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On November 02 2014 12:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hf said that his points on damdred being scum were infallible and I didn't agree with him based on nothing so I'm scum.
Which is wrong because the case on Damdred was provably bad, so it ends up boiling down to "Obi didn't agree with me so he's scum."
So thanks for not actually reading that post I guess.
HF wasn't even the one accusing Damdred for the majority of it. It was GB, who's not reading now?
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On November 02 2014 08:23 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 08:20 liancourt wrote:On November 02 2014 00:55 GlowingBear wrote:On November 02 2014 00:45 Damdred wrote:
because i hate lynching the biggest filter on d2 just like on d1 its just a bad idea generally.
GB we've been over your meta a lot, you are more standoffish as scum and you are fluff make promises that you don't keep and when you do its just bad. Right now you have 2/3 scum traits right now. So if i had a gun i might shoot you but i don't. I can be lazy as town and not deliver the case I promised at the right time. I've done this a lot. Like, lol. And you've only said 1 scum trait which is actually a null tell. You made a case on why you think someone is TOWN when he isn't really getting lynched. What the hell are you doing? I've actually never seen damd make a case on day 1 and on for someone who is town even. It's unlike him. He usually just throws out questions here and there... lian is the only person to point this out, its a nice pickup i hate d1 try not to make cases but i had to today and tired something different that didn't work at all
What do you mean by you had to make a case? Are you refering to the jay town defend case or the kirby scum case?
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Day One Vote Count
jaybrundage (0): Glowingbear
Holyflare (0): LordTolkien, Alakaslam
LordTolkien (2): Misder, jrkirby, Holyflare, jaybrundage, jrkirby
jrkirby (1): Glowingbear, Damdred
Glowingbear (2): Seuss, Blazinghand, jrkirby, Alakaslam
Misder (2): jrkirby
Alakaslam (0): Glowingbear, jrkirby
risk.nuke (0): VisceraEyes, Glowingbear
Damdred (3): Seuss, Glowingbear, VisceraEyes
Blazinghand (1): Oatsmaster, Glowingbear, Holyflare
ObiWanShinobi (1): Holyflare
Not Voting (6): ObiWanShinobi, LordTolkien, ritoky, risk.nuke, liancourt, Circumstance
Currently No One is set to be lynched. 9 votes are required for a majority lynch.
Day 1 ends at Monday, Nov 03 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (in )
Voting is mandatory
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On November 02 2014 09:18 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 09:15 liancourt wrote:On November 02 2014 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ehhhh....I think whoever is Aldor Peacekeeper is mafia. Making the lynch into a majority lynch speaks of someone trying to save whoever was up for lynch when it was plurality. :/
Anyone else getting that same vibe? Is this another herathstone reference I'm not getting? Although I understand the latter part. And can you answer my question I asked you about misder in the earlier part of the thread. The power changed the lynch from Plurality Lynch to Majority Lynch, in addition to extending the day. In Majority Lynch, it's much harder to get a lynch, potentially saving the lynch target. This is not a heartshtone reference
No, i meant the aldor peacekeeper thing.
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On November 02 2014 09:29 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 09:25 liancourt wrote:On November 02 2014 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like there's now a possiblity that we don't even GET a lynch. That move doesn't feel pro-town to me. so true getting a flip is important or else we'll be talking the same old crap tomorrow. So nothing we've talked about is relevant to you?
It's relevant, but talking about it again tomorrow isn't.
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On November 02 2014 10:46 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 10:43 liancourt wrote:On November 02 2014 04:10 Damdred wrote:On November 02 2014 04:09 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm not talking anymore. If you guys don't lynch damdred I won't play this game anymore, so you should lynch me.
Bye. what the literal fuck.... i'm claiming a blue power role and this is the response? I post my notes though ve mad about redacting and this is what you do. Good job gb is a good lynch then your role doesn't really indicate where it's good or bad really. What I do know is that you've made things harder for town to lynch anyone today because we need 9 votes on 1 person. I would really appreciate flips so we can move the discussion onto someone else tomorrow. What was your motive for making it a majority vote? are you reading the thread?
i was catching up with things from 6 hrs ago at that post
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Lol LT's reason for thinking someone is town is cringe inducing.
Oat's What do you think of BH after spewed posts all over the thread?
VE's disappearance is troubling he asked me for some my thoughts on Dramdred and then peaced out of the thread.
@Liancourt is jrkirby your main scum read or do you still wanna lynch Misder?
Speaking of Misder he's been afk for a while.
Obi wan Whats your top scum read. Before it was BH. What do you think of him after his posting?
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