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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 02 2014 04:32 GMT
#1081
What just happened.

BH vomiting words that are completely useless.
Damdred doing silly things.

Hey BH, what did you learn from quoting posts not in context and giving comments about them? For like half the fucking thread.
No gg, No skill.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2014 04:49 GMT
#1082
On November 02 2014 12:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hf said that his points on damdred being scum were infallible and I didn't agree with him based on nothing so I'm scum.

Which is wrong because the case on Damdred was provably bad, so it ends up boiling down to "Obi didn't agree with me so he's scum."

So thanks for not actually reading that post I guess.

On November 02 2014 12:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I hate it when people scumread others for poking holes in bad arguments. It's really stupid.


You have given absolutely no reason why they are bad in the slightest so don't act like you have
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2014 04:54 GMT
#1083
On November 02 2014 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Reread your question:

I do think Damdred is townish, One: because while yes, it's now a majority lynch, town should be perfectly able to consolidate with another 24 hours, and quite frankly, the extra 24 hours are much more important for town.

In any event, what point would mafia Damdred have to gain by breadcrumbing and revealing himself? It just puts him under scrutiny here.


My read of his filter is unremarkable, outside his strong townread on jay. Which I find lulzy
.


On November 02 2014 11:01 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 10:52 ritoky wrote:
On November 02 2014 10:49 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On November 02 2014 10:39 ritoky wrote:
On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On November 02 2014 09:54 Blazinghand wrote:
L, what you think of OWD

If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut.

His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post.

On November 01 2014 14:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
The dichotomy between lian/Circumstance is something I'm looking at. I really don't like how lian nitpicks at one of Circumstance's posts and then turns around and then says "hey, it reminds me of when I was new."

When you're new, you end up leaving a ton of holes in your game that people can pick at, which is what I've seen in Circumstance's play. (not having enough scumreads, putting quite a bit of emphasis on setup, etc)

You'd think that would mean you would put more effort into figuring that player out instead of just pushing a tiny thing like that, but I guess lian doesn't feel like doing that. I find it strange.

On November 01 2014 13:51 liancourt wrote:
misder is my top scum atm reasons are in my previous post

dont think he's posted anything since then.


Where do you stand on Circumstance?

Also, the analysis thing on Jay is a waste of time because he's town. I'm not going to elaborate on this because the cat is going to explain it for you. On the off chance that the cat is actually controlled by 3p or mafia, I can compare my read to whatever it gives us and see if it's actually a town entity or not by seeing if it agrees with me.

##Analyze: JB

I kind of realized that I contradicted myself in that paragraph, but w/e it's fine don't think about it.


so you don't think it was weird that he was defending damdred and calling him innocent before he even claimed? then why do you think damdred is town outside of his blue claim?

Part One: Somewhat, but town can be erratic perfectly well. Don't see any major issue with his defense of damdred.

Part Two: Yes. At the least, I'd rather lynch someone else today.

Since the day is now long enough for risk.nuke to post tomorrow, I want to read a good set of posts from him.


yeah except the part where you didn't answer WHY outside of his claim damdred is town.

Hard to describe. If you go through his filter, he clearly has a thought process, and is asking town-focused questions.

He's got appropriate skepticism.


These 2 reads do not go together AT ALL. The second quote shows you have a town read on him for unquantifiable reasons and are really vague but the first quote you say his play as been totally unremarkable which is scummy and that's all you say???

It's like you made up a reason and then actually read his filter then made up even more vague responses.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 04:55 GMT
#1084
Regarding damdred:

I think it was a bad move to use his role and make it a majority vote. As things stand now it doesn't look like we'll get a clear consensus on 1 person thus resulting in a no lynch which is bad for town.

The thing with his notes and delaying to show them was really suspicious. I don't see a reason why a town would deliberately delay revealing them.

I like his case on kirby, maybe it's because I have a prejudice as I'm reading him scummy in the first place.

Don't know why damdred would come out of his comfort playstyle of just asking questions on day 1.

I would vote damdred for lynch unless something better comes up.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2014 04:57 GMT
#1085
Why would you lynch him if you like his case on kirby?? Theres like 24 hours still to reach a consensus which will easily happen in that time
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 02 2014 05:02 GMT
#1086
I had to make cases because I said I would do things and I did them....its not how I generally do things but that's ok.

I'm not sure at all why loan, would be making that post. There's a few good lynched in the thread and he will have to explain why its me later.

We have 20ish hours to talk and decide so theirs plenty of time to get most of us on one target
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 05:02 GMT
#1087
On November 02 2014 13:49 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 12:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hf said that his points on damdred being scum were infallible and I didn't agree with him based on nothing so I'm scum.

Which is wrong because the case on Damdred was provably bad, so it ends up boiling down to "Obi didn't agree with me so he's scum."

So thanks for not actually reading that post I guess.

Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 12:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I hate it when people scumread others for poking holes in bad arguments. It's really stupid.


You have given absolutely no reason why they are bad in the slightest so don't act like you have


Yes I have. You even quoted them.

@JB: I'm not sure. Still BH probably, just for calling me mafia for generic stuff and not backing it up well enough I guess. I haven't really looked at his posts in depth yet, so I'll probably do that in the morning or something.
Retired.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 05:14 GMT
#1088
On November 02 2014 13:31 jaybrundage wrote:
Lol LT's reason for thinking someone is town is cringe inducing.

Oat's What do you think of BH after spewed posts all over the thread?

VE's disappearance is troubling he asked me for some my thoughts on Dramdred and then peaced out of the thread.

@Liancourt is jrkirby your main scum read or do you still wanna lynch Misder?

Speaking of Misder he's been afk for a while.

Obi wan Whats your top scum read. Before it was BH. What do you think of him after his posting?



those 2 are my scum reads and now damdred as well.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 05:17 GMT
#1089
On November 02 2014 13:57 Holyflare wrote:
Why would you lynch him if you like his case on kirby?? Theres like 24 hours still to reach a consensus which will easily happen in that time


His scumminess overshadows his townliness. What do you think about kirby?
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 05:24 GMT
#1090
On November 02 2014 14:02 Damdred wrote:
I had to make cases because I said I would do things and I did them....its not how I generally do things but that's ok.

I'm not sure at all why loan, would be making that post. There's a few good lynched in the thread and he will have to explain why its me later.

We have 20ish hours to talk and decide so theirs plenty of time to get most of us on one target


I hope you're right that we can get a consensus on 1 person, you did this man. Now fix it!

What do you think about misder?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2014 05:31 GMT
#1091
On November 02 2014 14:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 13:49 Holyflare wrote:
On November 02 2014 12:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hf said that his points on damdred being scum were infallible and I didn't agree with him based on nothing so I'm scum.

Which is wrong because the case on Damdred was provably bad, so it ends up boiling down to "Obi didn't agree with me so he's scum."

So thanks for not actually reading that post I guess.

On November 02 2014 12:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I hate it when people scumread others for poking holes in bad arguments. It's really stupid.


You have given absolutely no reason why they are bad in the slightest so don't act like you have


Yes I have. You even quoted them.

@JB: I'm not sure. Still BH probably, just for calling me mafia for generic stuff and not backing it up well enough I guess. I haven't really looked at his posts in depth yet, so I'll probably do that in the morning or something.


Stop being an absolute prick and explain because ritoky elaborated it pretty well.

Damdred makes a case on someone being town. Fine. That's a bit scummy and not really something town does when all he's asked is why is jay town but i can buy it as being null. Then he says it only took him 5 minutes because he just copied his notes. Fine, towny to have notes.

Then he gets called out on his notes and doesn't post them at all. So it is in fact a lie at this point. The only reason bear in mind that he WOULD get lynched is because he isn't posting these notes at all despite saying he has them. He reveals aldor time extension etc and you say there's no reason to lynch damd for...? (no reason), there's no scum motive to lie about reads (despite us categorically proving why what he did was very scum motivated) so what reason would there to lie about them as town (hint, none).

Doing the time extension when he did for the reason he did is bull shit if he didn't post notes and only scum motivated when coupled with the reason he gave and no notes. Yet you said otherwise before the notes even happened. Before any sense of him being town could be had. It doesn't make any sense unless you know his alignment and only mafoa know his alignment.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2014 05:31 GMT
#1092
On November 02 2014 14:17 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 13:57 Holyflare wrote:
Why would you lynch him if you like his case on kirby?? Theres like 24 hours still to reach a consensus which will easily happen in that time


His scumminess overshadows his townliness. What do you think about kirby?


I don't really think he's scummy at all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2014 05:36 GMT
#1093
It blows my mind that only I am on obi when he's so blatantly scummy.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2014 05:36 GMT
#1094
Especially gb ignoring him is very bad looking
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2014 05:39 GMT
#1095
On November 02 2014 14:17 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 13:57 Holyflare wrote:
Why would you lynch him if you like his case on kirby?? Theres like 24 hours still to reach a consensus which will easily happen in that time


His scumminess overshadows his townliness. What do you think about kirby?


So there's absolutely nobody else who has all negative points and you'd rather lynch the guy you agree in part with??
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 05:40 GMT
#1096
I'm not being a prick. I don't find what you said about Damdred to be convincing at all and you're basing your scumread on me around the fact that I didn't agree with your ironclad case. He might have lied, or he might not have, but it's not important because these notes aren't going to be all that useful in the grand scheme of things, nor would not having these notes available to post for your convenience be indicative in any way.

The thing is that I've actually dealt with a similar situation before:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465384-mission-mini-mafia?page=72#1428

The guy who did the exact same thing Damdred did was actually a cop, but someone got so invested in the idea that he lied about having "notes" or what have you that he wound up getting lynched. I don't see what would have warranted Damdred being pressured or claiming because I didn't feel particularly strongly about the case then either.

I have no idea why you're so mad at me. =/
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2014 05:43 GMT
#1097
You literally are giving 0 reasons why lying about notes is a towny thing and instead only giving an example that a cop did it one time when presumably he had a red check which is impossible here.

Nothing you said makes any sense on why you gave that read when a guy had lied at that present time and extended time to quantify his lie.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 05:44 GMT
#1098
(For what it's worth, he shouldn't have gotten lynched that game. Host mistakes and whatnot.)
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 05:45 GMT
#1099
On November 02 2014 14:43 Holyflare wrote:
You literally are giving 0 reasons why lying about notes is a towny thing and instead only giving an example that a cop did it one time when presumably he had a red check which is impossible here.

Nothing you said makes any sense on why you gave that read when a guy had lied at that present time and extended time to quantify his lie.


I never gave a read on him. I said the case was bad.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2014 05:46 GMT
#1100
It's not he might have lied or he might not. He said he had notes, he didn't post them, he extended time because he said he wouldn't be able to defend himself with 9 hours left when all we're scum reading him for is not posting his notes and then he posted them.

He lied at that point in time and the only explanation is mafia motives.
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