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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2014 05:46 GMT
#1101
Yet you said it's bad and you still have absolutely no reason to say that
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 05:47 GMT
#1102
I don't feel like that's the only explanation. I'm telling you that what you're focusing on is unimportant.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2014 05:48 GMT
#1103
You're literally saying jack shit when that was perfect to focus on. How is it NOT important in the slightest?????????.?

Like wtf are you smoking
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 05:49 GMT
#1104
It's not important because I don't think that mafia motivation is the only reason for him not to post his notes.

I just don't feel like his notes are relevant and I feel like you're making a mountain out of a molehill.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2014 05:50 GMT
#1105
Player A lies
Player B says lie is scummy
You say lie doesn't matter
Player A makes it no longer a lie
You give no reasons why it doesn't matter when it was only scim motivated.
I call you out
You waffle on about a cop with a red check in another game and how the lie doesn't matter when it does and did

Wut
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2014 05:51 GMT
#1106
On November 02 2014 14:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
It's not important because I don't think that mafia motivation is the only reason for him not to post his notes.

I just don't feel like his notes are relevant and I feel like you're making a mountain out of a molehill.


You can't come up with any reason whatsoever why it's town motivated. At all. There's no reason to call it bad unless you have a distinct reason why he witheld his notes was towny. You don't. You're scum.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 05:52 GMT
#1107
On November 02 2014 14:31 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 14:17 liancourt wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:57 Holyflare wrote:
Why would you lynch him if you like his case on kirby?? Theres like 24 hours still to reach a consensus which will easily happen in that time


His scumminess overshadows his townliness. What do you think about kirby?


I don't really think he's scummy at all


What are you trying to say? He's just playing the really bad town card?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2014 05:53 GMT
#1108
On November 02 2014 14:52 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 14:31 Holyflare wrote:
On November 02 2014 14:17 liancourt wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:57 Holyflare wrote:
Why would you lynch him if you like his case on kirby?? Theres like 24 hours still to reach a consensus which will easily happen in that time


His scumminess overshadows his townliness. What do you think about kirby?


I don't really think he's scummy at all


What are you trying to say? He's just playing the really bad town card?


That he's not scummy at all and isn't playing the really bad town card...? I already wrote why i didn't agree with damds case before
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 05:55 GMT
#1109
On November 02 2014 14:51 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 14:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
It's not important because I don't think that mafia motivation is the only reason for him not to post his notes.

I just don't feel like his notes are relevant and I feel like you're making a mountain out of a molehill.


You can't come up with any reason whatsoever why it's town motivated. At all. There's no reason to call it bad unless you have a distinct reason why he witheld his notes was towny. You don't. You're scum.


I'm not saying it's town motivated. I'm saying it's not relevant. I don't know how you can discern the motivation behind something that convoluted, and I feel like drawing any kind of conclusion from it is somewhat far fetched.

I don't see how batsnacks not posting his notes and being a cop with a red check is so different from this game, either.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 05:55 GMT
#1110
Christ I knew this game was going to be annoying. I'm already bored of this conversation.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2014 05:56 GMT
#1111
I have no words for you obi.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 05:59 GMT
#1112
On November 02 2014 14:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not being a prick. I don't find what you said about Damdred to be convincing at all and you're basing your scumread on me around the fact that I didn't agree with your ironclad case. He might have lied, or he might not have, but it's not important because these notes aren't going to be all that useful in the grand scheme of things, nor would not having these notes available to post for your convenience be indicative in any way.

The thing is that I've actually dealt with a similar situation before:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465384-mission-mini-mafia?page=72#1428

The guy who did the exact same thing Damdred did was actually a cop, but someone got so invested in the idea that he lied about having "notes" or what have you that he wound up getting lynched. I don't see what would have warranted Damdred being pressured or claiming because I didn't feel particularly strongly about the case then either.

I have no idea why you're so mad at me. =/


Do you think if we lynch someone besides damdred today town can talk about someone besides damdred tomorrow?

Who would you lynch today and talk about tomorrow?
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 06:01 GMT
#1113
On November 02 2014 14:59 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 14:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not being a prick. I don't find what you said about Damdred to be convincing at all and you're basing your scumread on me around the fact that I didn't agree with your ironclad case. He might have lied, or he might not have, but it's not important because these notes aren't going to be all that useful in the grand scheme of things, nor would not having these notes available to post for your convenience be indicative in any way.

The thing is that I've actually dealt with a similar situation before:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465384-mission-mini-mafia?page=72#1428

The guy who did the exact same thing Damdred did was actually a cop, but someone got so invested in the idea that he lied about having "notes" or what have you that he wound up getting lynched. I don't see what would have warranted Damdred being pressured or claiming because I didn't feel particularly strongly about the case then either.

I have no idea why you're so mad at me. =/


Do you think if we lynch someone besides damdred today town can talk about someone besides damdred tomorrow?

Who would you lynch today and talk about tomorrow?


I'm sorry.

What are you doing?
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2014 06:02 GMT
#1114
Like there's nothing convoluted about anything whatsoever.

Someone says they have notes
Someone asks to post notes
He doesn't post notes
People start to scum read him for no notes
He extends time because of pressure??
We make case saying this means he has no notes because he wouldn't be under pressure if he just copies the notes
You say that's bad
He posts notes after some time

Why on earth would he need to do that extension unless he was lying and buying time at that moment? There's literally nothing convoluted about this at all and many people agreed yet you somehow keep saying it means nothing whatsoever and that it's terribly far fetched and has no meaning. Like wtf.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2014 06:08 GMT
#1115
This won't stop until you actually explain stuff btw. You haven't elaborated on any of your points whatsoever.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 06:09 GMT
#1116
On November 02 2014 15:02 Holyflare wrote:
Like there's nothing convoluted about anything whatsoever.

Someone says they have notes
Someone asks to post notes
He doesn't post notes
People start to scum read him for no notes
He extends time because of pressure??
We make case saying this means he has no notes because he wouldn't be under pressure if he just copies the notes
You say that's bad
He posts notes after some time

Why on earth would he need to do that extension unless he was lying and buying time at that moment? There's literally nothing convoluted about this at all and many people agreed yet you somehow keep saying it means nothing whatsoever and that it's terribly far fetched and has no meaning. Like wtf.


Okay, let's try to look at this from another angle:

If he posted his notes within the allotted time he would've had without claiming/extending time, what made you think that he had to buy himself time and that he's scum because of it?

What you are saying is a convoluted way of trying to prove someone's alignment and I don't think it's a strong case. It's a straightforward series of events but it ultimately proves nothing.

Can we talk about something else now?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 06:11 GMT
#1117
On November 02 2014 15:08 Holyflare wrote:
This won't stop until you actually explain stuff btw. You haven't elaborated on any of your points whatsoever.


I don't see what I haven't elaborated on. I've stated that I find the fact you're pushing really useless and you keep pressuring me in order to make me think it's not useless.
Retired.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 06:20 GMT
#1118
On November 02 2014 15:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 14:59 liancourt wrote:
On November 02 2014 14:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not being a prick. I don't find what you said about Damdred to be convincing at all and you're basing your scumread on me around the fact that I didn't agree with your ironclad case. He might have lied, or he might not have, but it's not important because these notes aren't going to be all that useful in the grand scheme of things, nor would not having these notes available to post for your convenience be indicative in any way.

The thing is that I've actually dealt with a similar situation before:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465384-mission-mini-mafia?page=72#1428

The guy who did the exact same thing Damdred did was actually a cop, but someone got so invested in the idea that he lied about having "notes" or what have you that he wound up getting lynched. I don't see what would have warranted Damdred being pressured or claiming because I didn't feel particularly strongly about the case then either.

I have no idea why you're so mad at me. =/


Do you think if we lynch someone besides damdred today town can talk about someone besides damdred tomorrow?

Who would you lynch today and talk about tomorrow?


I'm sorry.

What are you doing?


talking to you
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2014 06:20 GMT
#1119
On November 02 2014 15:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 15:02 Holyflare wrote:
Like there's nothing convoluted about anything whatsoever.

Someone says they have notes
Someone asks to post notes
He doesn't post notes
People start to scum read him for no notes
He extends time because of pressure??
We make case saying this means he has no notes because he wouldn't be under pressure if he just copies the notes
You say that's bad
He posts notes after some time

Why on earth would he need to do that extension unless he was lying and buying time at that moment? There's literally nothing convoluted about this at all and many people agreed yet you somehow keep saying it means nothing whatsoever and that it's terribly far fetched and has no meaning. Like wtf.


Okay, let's try to look at this from another angle:

If he posted his notes within the allotted time he would've had without claiming/extending time, what made you think that he had to buy himself time and that he's scum because of it?

What you are saying is a convoluted way of trying to prove someone's alignment and I don't think it's a strong case. It's a straightforward series of events but it ultimately proves nothing.

Can we talk about something else now?



What are you even saying. He didn't post notes that he said he had and then increased time because he thought he would get lynched. If he posted them in the alotted time he would be towny looking and avoid any discussion. I'm pretty sure he made up about having notes and then posted them afterwards and is too scared to admit it but his notes weren't actually that bad so I'm not that wary of him (although still a reasonable amount of doubt).

The only motivation AT THAT TIME. Before he posted notes. Was scum motivation.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2014 06:25 GMT
#1120
On November 02 2014 15:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 15:08 Holyflare wrote:
This won't stop until you actually explain stuff btw. You haven't elaborated on any of your points whatsoever.


I don't see what I haven't elaborated on. I've stated that I find the fact you're pushing really useless and you keep pressuring me in order to make me think it's not useless.


No I'm pushing something multiple people agreed with and wondering why you were the only person to not agree with it and every response you leave just leaves more holes and question marks.

Like there's quite literally no reason to say damd is a bad lynch unless you have a reason to not lynch him and his posts were town motivated. As it stands you have given NO town motivation to lie about reads and there is only scum motivation so you calling it bad is totally unjustified, scummy because it looks like tmi and worse now that you have "explained".

We don't have to talk about it more because it's quite evident that you're mafia. Feel free to bring up a new useful subject to talk about though instead of complaining how boring this is and asking me to drop talking about it.
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