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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
November 01 2014 23:47 GMT
#1021
So, now that I'm fully caught up, here's my cliffnotes scumreads:

GB for his awfulness and for the glory of RNG
OWS for his doubt and lack of a townie mindset

If someone has something else to bring to my attention, please let me know. I'd rather lynch GB than OWS; I think the case against GB as an actve-style scum is stronger (for you people) and he definitely got RNGed (my real reason). Nonetheless, I understand the importance of a avoiding no-lynch today and will consolidate onto OWS even though he's not my toip choice.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 01 2014 23:53 GMT
#1022
On November 02 2014 02:30 Holyflare wrote:
if anyone thinks i missed someone feel free to tell me so i can tell you why you're wrong


u missed misder
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
November 01 2014 23:58 GMT
#1023
On November 02 2014 08:31 Blazinghand wrote:

Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 07:18 jrkirby wrote:
On November 02 2014 07:13 ritoky wrote:
On November 02 2014 07:06 jrkirby wrote:
On November 02 2014 06:56 ritoky wrote:
On November 02 2014 06:49 jrkirby wrote:
Where the hell are BH and Misder? The longer they are gone, the scummier I feel they are.

To me, damdred reads like bad town, cracking under pressure. You shouldn't care that he claims blue though, because it looks like all the reds are going to have random powers too. But overall, it doesn't read like scum, more like clueless town to me.

On November 02 2014 07:18 jrkirby wrote:
Show nested quote +


I no longer have scum reads on slam or LT. I think HF is town, not sure about circumstance tbh. I don't think I ever said GB was scum. It's been closer to null all game for him. Could go either way with how he's playing.

If BH, misder or risk get lynched I wouldn't mind. BH's back in the thread so he might change my mind.

Anyone else - I need some serious convincing, but I much rather have somebody lynched than nobody lynched.


what makes it a null game for GB? he's been making a lot of posts and that's convinced many people... but not you? you unvoted him earlier. can you explain why, or who your head honcho for lynching is? it seems like you're lost, and you don't know who to lynch. seems like you need something to guide you. something untouchable. something pure. something perfect. something policy.

something like RNG
+ Show Spoiler [Crazy Theory, not important] +

Although I did for a second entertain a crazy theory - GlowingBear and Damdred are scumbuddies. GB pushes the Damd lynch day one, if it flips mafia he gets an easy rest of game. He's been on Damd's case since the beginning of the game literally.


why is risk.nuke not in that list anymore? has your scum read on him evaporated? if so, why?


No, I just forgot to mention him. I'd jump on risk in a second if I thought we could get majority. He's done almost absolutely nothing for town.


i just glanced through your filter. it seems you have or had scum reads on: LT, slam, GB, BH, misder and risk....that's 6 mafia reads....a couple i don't really feel are explained.

as for your town reads...you have 1 on circumstance for being "level-headed" early on and no real mention of anything since...

so my question here is, do you care who gets lynched or do you just care about lynching someone and being in the majority like you just stated?


I no longer have scum reads on slam or LT. I think HF is town, not sure about circumstance tbh. I don't think I ever said GB was scum. It's been closer to null all game for him. Could go either way with how he's playing.

If BH, misder or risk get lynched I wouldn't mind. BH's back in the thread so he might change my mind.

Anyone else - I need some serious convincing, but I much rather have somebody lynched than nobody lynched.


what makes it a null game for GB? he's been making a lot of posts and that's convinced many people... but not you? you unvoted him earlier. can you explain why, or who your head honcho for lynching is? it seems like you're lost, and you don't know who to lynch. seems like you need something to guide you. something untouchable. something pure. something perfect. something policy.

something like RNG


So as I explained earlier, I only voted GB because I'd been convinced RNG was good. When I changed my mind on RNG, I changed my vote. GB is trying his hardest to get somebody lynched. Someone who he thinks is scummy. This is kinda townie. I just don't quite agree with all his reasonings.

If you want me to go back to a GB vote, you'll have to convince me that GB is actually scummy. I'm just not seeing it right now.

Right now, I think misder is the best lynch target. He was blue fishing, hasn't posted scumreads, and has been pretty AFK for the last day or so. If he wants to get ignored (a scummy thing), he's doing pretty well. Why wouldn't you lynch misder?
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
November 01 2014 23:59 GMT
#1024
On November 02 2014 08:58 jrkirby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 08:31 Blazinghand wrote:

On November 02 2014 07:18 jrkirby wrote:
On November 02 2014 07:13 ritoky wrote:
On November 02 2014 07:06 jrkirby wrote:
On November 02 2014 06:56 ritoky wrote:
On November 02 2014 06:49 jrkirby wrote:
Where the hell are BH and Misder? The longer they are gone, the scummier I feel they are.

To me, damdred reads like bad town, cracking under pressure. You shouldn't care that he claims blue though, because it looks like all the reds are going to have random powers too. But overall, it doesn't read like scum, more like clueless town to me.

On November 02 2014 07:18 jrkirby wrote:
Show nested quote +


I no longer have scum reads on slam or LT. I think HF is town, not sure about circumstance tbh. I don't think I ever said GB was scum. It's been closer to null all game for him. Could go either way with how he's playing.

If BH, misder or risk get lynched I wouldn't mind. BH's back in the thread so he might change my mind.

Anyone else - I need some serious convincing, but I much rather have somebody lynched than nobody lynched.


what makes it a null game for GB? he's been making a lot of posts and that's convinced many people... but not you? you unvoted him earlier. can you explain why, or who your head honcho for lynching is? it seems like you're lost, and you don't know who to lynch. seems like you need something to guide you. something untouchable. something pure. something perfect. something policy.

something like RNG
+ Show Spoiler [Crazy Theory, not important] +

Although I did for a second entertain a crazy theory - GlowingBear and Damdred are scumbuddies. GB pushes the Damd lynch day one, if it flips mafia he gets an easy rest of game. He's been on Damd's case since the beginning of the game literally.


why is risk.nuke not in that list anymore? has your scum read on him evaporated? if so, why?


No, I just forgot to mention him. I'd jump on risk in a second if I thought we could get majority. He's done almost absolutely nothing for town.


i just glanced through your filter. it seems you have or had scum reads on: LT, slam, GB, BH, misder and risk....that's 6 mafia reads....a couple i don't really feel are explained.

as for your town reads...you have 1 on circumstance for being "level-headed" early on and no real mention of anything since...

so my question here is, do you care who gets lynched or do you just care about lynching someone and being in the majority like you just stated?


I no longer have scum reads on slam or LT. I think HF is town, not sure about circumstance tbh. I don't think I ever said GB was scum. It's been closer to null all game for him. Could go either way with how he's playing.

If BH, misder or risk get lynched I wouldn't mind. BH's back in the thread so he might change my mind.

Anyone else - I need some serious convincing, but I much rather have somebody lynched than nobody lynched.


what makes it a null game for GB? he's been making a lot of posts and that's convinced many people... but not you? you unvoted him earlier. can you explain why, or who your head honcho for lynching is? it seems like you're lost, and you don't know who to lynch. seems like you need something to guide you. something untouchable. something pure. something perfect. something policy.

something like RNG


So as I explained earlier, I only voted GB because I'd been convinced RNG was good. When I changed my mind on RNG, I changed my vote. GB is trying his hardest to get somebody lynched. Someone who he thinks is scummy. This is kinda townie. I just don't quite agree with all his reasonings.

If you want me to go back to a GB vote, you'll have to convince me that GB is actually scummy. I'm just not seeing it right now.

Right now, I think misder is the best lynch target. He was blue fishing, hasn't posted scumreads, and has been pretty AFK for the last day or so. If he wants to get ignored (a scummy thing), he's doing pretty well. Why wouldn't you lynch misder?


just lurking and blue fishing doesn't do it for me. blue fishing is bad but i don't see scum doing it often enough to think it's a scum thing. you've haven't told me about his mindset, just that he hasn't posted much. if you want to convince me that a policy lurker lynch is better than RNG lycnh, which has worked 50% of the time I've actually gotten people to vote the guy, you'ave got another thing coming
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
November 02 2014 00:00 GMT
#1025
On November 02 2014 08:59 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 08:58 jrkirby wrote:
On November 02 2014 08:31 Blazinghand wrote:

On November 02 2014 07:18 jrkirby wrote:
On November 02 2014 07:13 ritoky wrote:
On November 02 2014 07:06 jrkirby wrote:
On November 02 2014 06:56 ritoky wrote:
On November 02 2014 06:49 jrkirby wrote:
Where the hell are BH and Misder? The longer they are gone, the scummier I feel they are.

To me, damdred reads like bad town, cracking under pressure. You shouldn't care that he claims blue though, because it looks like all the reds are going to have random powers too. But overall, it doesn't read like scum, more like clueless town to me.

On November 02 2014 07:18 jrkirby wrote:
Show nested quote +


I no longer have scum reads on slam or LT. I think HF is town, not sure about circumstance tbh. I don't think I ever said GB was scum. It's been closer to null all game for him. Could go either way with how he's playing.

If BH, misder or risk get lynched I wouldn't mind. BH's back in the thread so he might change my mind.

Anyone else - I need some serious convincing, but I much rather have somebody lynched than nobody lynched.


what makes it a null game for GB? he's been making a lot of posts and that's convinced many people... but not you? you unvoted him earlier. can you explain why, or who your head honcho for lynching is? it seems like you're lost, and you don't know who to lynch. seems like you need something to guide you. something untouchable. something pure. something perfect. something policy.

something like RNG
+ Show Spoiler [Crazy Theory, not important] +

Although I did for a second entertain a crazy theory - GlowingBear and Damdred are scumbuddies. GB pushes the Damd lynch day one, if it flips mafia he gets an easy rest of game. He's been on Damd's case since the beginning of the game literally.


why is risk.nuke not in that list anymore? has your scum read on him evaporated? if so, why?


No, I just forgot to mention him. I'd jump on risk in a second if I thought we could get majority. He's done almost absolutely nothing for town.


i just glanced through your filter. it seems you have or had scum reads on: LT, slam, GB, BH, misder and risk....that's 6 mafia reads....a couple i don't really feel are explained.

as for your town reads...you have 1 on circumstance for being "level-headed" early on and no real mention of anything since...

so my question here is, do you care who gets lynched or do you just care about lynching someone and being in the majority like you just stated?


I no longer have scum reads on slam or LT. I think HF is town, not sure about circumstance tbh. I don't think I ever said GB was scum. It's been closer to null all game for him. Could go either way with how he's playing.

If BH, misder or risk get lynched I wouldn't mind. BH's back in the thread so he might change my mind.

Anyone else - I need some serious convincing, but I much rather have somebody lynched than nobody lynched.


what makes it a null game for GB? he's been making a lot of posts and that's convinced many people... but not you? you unvoted him earlier. can you explain why, or who your head honcho for lynching is? it seems like you're lost, and you don't know who to lynch. seems like you need something to guide you. something untouchable. something pure. something perfect. something policy.

something like RNG


So as I explained earlier, I only voted GB because I'd been convinced RNG was good. When I changed my mind on RNG, I changed my vote. GB is trying his hardest to get somebody lynched. Someone who he thinks is scummy. This is kinda townie. I just don't quite agree with all his reasonings.

If you want me to go back to a GB vote, you'll have to convince me that GB is actually scummy. I'm just not seeing it right now.

Right now, I think misder is the best lynch target. He was blue fishing, hasn't posted scumreads, and has been pretty AFK for the last day or so. If he wants to get ignored (a scummy thing), he's doing pretty well. Why wouldn't you lynch misder?


just lurking and blue fishing doesn't do it for me. blue fishing is bad but i don't see scum doing it often enough to think it's a scum thing. you've haven't told me about his mindset, just that he hasn't posted much. if you want to convince me that a policy lurker lynch is better than RNG lycnh, which has worked 50% of the time I've actually gotten people to vote the guy, you'ave got another thing coming


Sample size = 2?
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
November 02 2014 00:02 GMT
#1026
Also some serious correlation = causation fallacies
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
November 02 2014 00:04 GMT
#1027
dude whatever it doesn't matter, RNG IS KING. in 100% of games in the sample size of "the last game I played" it landed on scum, and he got lynched. so i don't see what your issue is. you want to policy a lurker, I want to policy rng which is a great strat
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
November 02 2014 00:12 GMT
#1028
Also misder's "lets consolidate out analyse votes" -> analyse cincumstance out of the blue is pretty weird too.

And BH needs to take a stats course.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
November 02 2014 00:14 GMT
#1029
And anyone who hasn't analysed should do it on jay, as he has the most votes, and I'm pretty sure the cat's just waiting for us to get a majority.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 00:15 GMT
#1030
On November 02 2014 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ehhhh....I think whoever is Aldor Peacekeeper is mafia. Making the lynch into a majority lynch speaks of someone trying to save whoever was up for lynch when it was plurality. :/

Anyone else getting that same vibe?


Is this another herathstone reference I'm not getting? Although I understand the latter part. And can you answer my question I asked you about misder in the earlier part of the thread.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
November 02 2014 00:18 GMT
#1031
On November 02 2014 09:15 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ehhhh....I think whoever is Aldor Peacekeeper is mafia. Making the lynch into a majority lynch speaks of someone trying to save whoever was up for lynch when it was plurality. :/

Anyone else getting that same vibe?


Is this another herathstone reference I'm not getting? Although I understand the latter part. And can you answer my question I asked you about misder in the earlier part of the thread.


The power changed the lynch from Plurality Lynch to Majority Lynch, in addition to extending the day. In Majority Lynch, it's much harder to get a lynch, potentially saving the lynch target. This is not a heartshtone reference
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 02 2014 00:25 GMT
#1032
On November 02 2014 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like there's now a possiblity that we don't even GET a lynch. That move doesn't feel pro-town to me.


so true getting a flip is important or else we'll be talking the same old crap tomorrow.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2014 00:29 GMT
#1033
On November 02 2014 09:25 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like there's now a possiblity that we don't even GET a lynch. That move doesn't feel pro-town to me.


so true getting a flip is important or else we'll be talking the same old crap tomorrow.


So nothing we've talked about is relevant to you?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 02 2014 00:39 GMT
#1034
On November 02 2014 09:12 jrkirby wrote:
Also misder's "lets consolidate out analyse votes" -> analyse cincumstance out of the blue is pretty weird too.

And BH needs to take a stats course.


like....what is your case on misder? i tried to look thru your filter and didn't find anything really organized. and this sentiment is literally a direct sheep of something i said earlier.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
November 02 2014 00:47 GMT
#1035
On November 02 2014 09:39 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 09:12 jrkirby wrote:
Also misder's "lets consolidate out analyse votes" -> analyse cincumstance out of the blue is pretty weird too.

And BH needs to take a stats course.


like....what is your case on misder? i tried to look thru your filter and didn't find anything really organized. and this sentiment is literally a direct sheep of something i said earlier.


Blue fishing + No scum hunting + Lurking + that = decent chance of scum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2014 00:48 GMT
#1036
On November 02 2014 09:47 jrkirby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 09:39 ritoky wrote:
On November 02 2014 09:12 jrkirby wrote:
Also misder's "lets consolidate out analyse votes" -> analyse cincumstance out of the blue is pretty weird too.

And BH needs to take a stats course.


like....what is your case on misder? i tried to look thru your filter and didn't find anything really organized. and this sentiment is literally a direct sheep of something i said earlier.


Blue fishing + No scum hunting + Lurking + that = decent chance of scum.


Were you not happy with his answers? I thought they were quite towny
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 00:52 GMT
#1037
Could you idiots stop telling people that I'm mafia?

I don't want to have to go on another posting spree that ends with me posting 22 pages of shit and getting pissed off at everyone.
Retired.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
November 02 2014 00:53 GMT
#1038
On November 02 2014 05:42 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:23 Lord Tolkien wrote:
and pls, I'm not actually a lynch. No one ever lynches me D1, I'm just a placeholder.

First time for everything. As Aunt May once said "You're not Superman, you know"

Just so you know, in the contest of this quote you're Uncle Ben

Aha, but you forget.

+ Show Spoiler +


I find this tunneling on me cute jay.


What I don't find cute is this whole GB train going. Ugh, I'm still reading GB as town despite being horrendous this game. No, you aren't being passive this game but good god, really? Nein, neeeeein.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
November 02 2014 00:54 GMT
#1039
L, what you think of OWD
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
November 02 2014 01:00 GMT
#1040
On November 02 2014 09:48 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 09:47 jrkirby wrote:
On November 02 2014 09:39 ritoky wrote:
On November 02 2014 09:12 jrkirby wrote:
Also misder's "lets consolidate out analyse votes" -> analyse cincumstance out of the blue is pretty weird too.

And BH needs to take a stats course.


like....what is your case on misder? i tried to look thru your filter and didn't find anything really organized. and this sentiment is literally a direct sheep of something i said earlier.


Blue fishing + No scum hunting + Lurking + that = decent chance of scum.


Were you not happy with his answers? I thought they were quite towny


On October 31 2014 14:38 Misder wrote:

For the "role-fishing" thing - don't know if what I said actually counts as role-fishing, but if we ever do find out his character, I'm inclined to believe that jkirby is not the opposite alignment of that character (subjective of course). I would have thought that either way, but I asked because I wanted to get the point across.


I read it as "Role fishing? I wasn't role-fishing, I was just kinda... asking him what his role was. Also, lets talk more about what his role might be."

Also, with his last post, he calls for a risk.nuke lynch, but doesn't even vote him.

Are you all going to let him sit back in the scum QT laughing at us?
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