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On October 20 2014 05:56 marvellosity wrote: Obviously not us :p Still don't know if Oats is mafia, still don't know how to read him, still don't know why i'd put him on a mission at this point. I'd rather put all my efforts into figuring out Palmar+BH+Slam. Null on oats. On October 21 2014 03:19 marvellosity wrote: which would normally make Oats town by default, but i'm not sure if mafia would confidently declare other spies as townies in this game. Null on oats On October 21 2014 03:27 marvellosity wrote: What I'm saying is that in a normal game of mafia, it's highly unusual for a mafia to confidently declare another mafia town. But this is different, so I'm not sure the same applies Null on Oats On October 21 2014 03:31 marvellosity wrote: Oats ate an apple once i saw a townie eat an apple therefore oats is a townie nice disputing a townread on oats due to "traps", but still not a scumread on oats. On October 21 2014 03:57 marvellosity wrote: If we really decide Oats is the towniest, we can yay him in a future mission on this same day. I do not understand this urgency to yolo yay vote the most unreadable player on TL Mafia. noncommital on oats. calls him unreadable. shooting down a reason for townreading oats, but again not scumreading him. On October 22 2014 01:24 marvellosity wrote: Pretty tempted just to roll with it as the choice seems to have narrowed down to Oats+Slam for me. On October 22 2014 20:54 marvellosity wrote: I think BH is playing a different game to the rest of us not really sure what you're saying here about oats, but it's not a case against him. On October 24 2014 21:36 marvellosity wrote: who's mafia then, oats? On October 24 2014 22:10 marvellosity wrote: You "don't expect to make a decision for a few days"? lol Oats. lol. Activity for lian discounts him but not me? (with double the page count) Biggest load of non-committal wishy washy nonsense I saw from you in a long time. Quite a feat. interrogating oats On October 24 2014 22:12 marvellosity wrote: Absolutely no curiosity on Oats' part, who if he's town would be thinking "wow, one of these 3 guys is a spy and didn't sabotage the mission first time round, who could it be and why?" No curiosity at all. On October 24 2014 22:27 marvellosity wrote: there are things that townies do, and things that mafia do. there are mistakes that townies make, and mistakes that mafia make. You did not do what a townie does, and you made a mistake that mafia makes. It's quite simple. On October 24 2014 23:24 marvellosity wrote: Doesn't work at all because you've just shown you're not reading the thread or paying attention. Keep 'em coming, babyboy. On October 24 2014 23:28 marvellosity wrote: It's not exaggerated at all, Oats. "You don't have a mafiaread" "er, yes I clearly do" "oh yea... I guess I do, which I'd know if I paid attention to the thread in any way" what is the exaggeration? On October 24 2014 23:29 marvellosity wrote: You literally accused me of something that was blatantly false. On October 24 2014 23:37 marvellosity wrote: Right. So your only justification for saying it was "super exaggerated" was my phrase in "any way". What I said, however, is totally correct. You accused me of something that was blatantly false and verifiably false, and can be seen to be false by a basic read of the thread. here we see a buildup to direct attack on oats as marv and oats call each other scum. On October 24 2014 23:44 marvellosity wrote: marvellosity lian batsnacks Alakaslam Damdred Palmar BH Oats Final answer and here we see Marv has listed Oats has his top scumread. Most of the rest of the time after this that marv talks about oats, he just points out taht he has proven that oats is scum without describing why: On October 28 2014 19:29 marvellosity wrote: Literally explained in great detail to the thread why Oats is mafia and I have idiots like liancourt running around ignoring it. There is literally no way for town to win, don't know why you're all going through the motions. so if I had to point at what marv considers his case against Oats, it would have to be the exchange beginning here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469022-the-resistance-avalon?page=34#671 Palmar points out that the simple explanation is that Oats is scum, and the tinfoil hat explanation is that marv is scum. Marv responds to the tinfoil hat one, and oats to the simple one, saying "the game isn't that easy". Oats asks Marv about keeping cards close to the chest, then Marv asks Oats about Oats' reads. Oats says he's leaning between marv and bats based on activty and feels that discount lian. He isn't ready to make a decision yet for the next few days. Marv points out that he has double the page count of lian, and that based on activity he should be in the clear, not lian. Marv further points out that Oats isn't being curious. He's not pushing the issue, not trying to find out who's scum in the aftermath of this mission, despite the fact that, from the perspective of a town oats, one of the other 4 missioners to have non-saboed during the first mission. marv says a true town here would be inquisitive and curious, not laid-back. So oats must be scum. is this an accurate summary of that series of posts, Marv? is this why you think oats is scum? | ||
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team leader order determined: (link) palm, marv, lian, oats, bats, kels (now damd), slam, bh D1 Palm prop: Palm/marv/liancourt: (link) palm reject: (link) . yays: Palm, Slam, Lian. Nays: Bats Marv, Oats, BH Marv prop: lian/marv/batsnacks: (link) Marv pass: (link) yays: marv, bats, dam, palm, oats, slam, lian. nays: BH Mission 1: Success (link) D2 Liam prop Lian/marv/bats/oats (link) Lian reject. (link) Nays: Everyone but Lian. Yays: Lian Oats prop lian/marv/bats/oats. (link) Oats passes. (link) Yays: Marv, lian, oats, bats. Nays: Palm, BH, Slam. Mission 2: Failure with 1 Sabotage (link) D3 Batsnacks Proposes: Bat/Marv/Slam/Palm (link) Bat team rejected. Yays: Marv and Bats. Nays: Everyone Else Damdred Prop: Damdred Marv Lian Oats (link) Damdred's Reject. Yays: Marv. Nays: Everyone Else Slam Proposes: Marv/Palm/BH/Slam (link) Slam's team Rejected. Yays: Marv. Nays: Everyone Else BH Proposes: Bats/Palm/BH/Slam (link) BH passes. (link) Yays: BH, marv, slam, oats, damdred. Nays: Lian, Palmar, batsnacks Mission 3: Failure with 1 Sabotage (link) D4 Palmar Proposes: Palm/Lian/Bats/Marv/Slam (link) Palmar Rejected: (link) Yays: Slam, BH, Dam, Oats. Nays: Marv, Palmar, Lian. Bats abstains. Marv Proposes: Marv/Lian/Bats/Marv/Slam (link) | ||
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On November 06 2014 08:01 marvellosity wrote: the first mission passing was just confirmation of my read Ok. Well, Marv, I don't like how much you've told people to look things up in your filter combined with how spread out most cases are across multiple posts. I don't like the fact that you're not driving this town personally by pushing your ideas and agendas on others aggressively. And I especially don't like how you voted during D3. When I started this off, I was looking for reassons to townread you, but I don't, and I can't. You've definitely taken stances. You've definitely been in thet hread. With a bit of research, all of your ideas and reads are there, but they're not easy to find. I don't like how you've flagged this game. I wish I were stronger on this scumread-- that you were the kind of person who more likely flags as mafia, or can't hold it together for a long scumgame. But that's not the truth. I guess I'd have expected you to make it a bit easier for people to agree wtih you. You'd have done something on D3 other than literally yayvote every team and "give up" on the game. But then again, yayvoting every team because you've "given up" is pretty legit as scum. Suddenly, it's a lot easier to not get flak for yayvoting a team with scum on it, which, given that you yayvoted teams including like literally every player in the game, you almost certainly did. No, I don't trust you Marv. I can't read your emotions or your feelings about this game, or your motivation. You're foreign to me. but I can read how you've voted and how you've suggested teams, and I think you're scum who has voted in scumteams and done a really darned good job of dodging responsibility and seeming "angry" about people not reading your filter. The response to any information request becomes a refernece to you hideously long, unreadable filter. The response to any strategic voting request becomes an angry torrent of yayvotes onto literally everything. The perfect storm of "rage" to hide your intentions,t he perfect storm of incompetent voting to push your scumteams without getting any bad karma from it. Marv, you're scum. You may be the only person left playing this game with me seriously, but you're still scum and I will NEVER yayvote a team with you on it. anyone who's not marv who disagrees with me on this scumread, step forward now and let is debate and discuss. Let me open yoru eyes to the truth. Let us save this game. | ||
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