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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 13 2014 08:20 GMT
#15
/in
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-13 19:46:45
October 13 2014 19:40 GMT
#22
Palmar's back is hugue

here's how it works

1. person suggests team
2. we vote on whether we like team or not
3a. if team is approved, players on team pm host saying whether or not they sabotage
3b. if the team isn't approved, go back to step 1 with the next person on the list getting a turn to suggest
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 13 2014 21:18 GMT
#28
On October 14 2014 06:11 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 04:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Palmar's back is hugue

here's how it works

1. person suggests team
2. we vote on whether we like team or not
3a. if team is approved, players on team pm host saying whether or not they sabotage
3b. if the team isn't approved, go back to step 1 with the next person on the list getting a turn to suggest


Thanks I think I can do this


what often happens is the first suggester or two teams get rejected (and this gives people an idea of who votes what) before a team is accepted. In some versions, there's a limit on how many teams can be proposed in a round to prevent things from running too long
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 14 2014 00:56 GMT
#35
Well, I'm excited! Resistance is nice because nobody dies.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 14 2014 05:23 GMT
#43
Leaders generally always include themselves.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 14 2014 06:54 GMT
#46
We're not gonna "let" palmar do anything, he makes a decision and we vote. Without giving away too much, I'm gonna say this so that there's no confusion.

1. Never talk about scum strategy at all. Scum have no QT. They can't talk with each other. Anyone who tries to discuss what scum should do is helping scum enormously, because one of the few advantages we have over scum is they can't coordinate. Because discussing scum strategy helps scum a ton, I will automatically assume anyone who does it is scum.

2. Generally, vote "no" more than "yes", especially to teams you're not on. This will let us see more teams and see people's votes on more teams. If you are neutral, by default you should vote "no" on any given team.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 14 2014 07:32 GMT
#48
On October 14 2014 16:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 15:54 Blazinghand wrote:
We're not gonna "let" palmar do anything, he makes a decision and we vote. Without giving away too much, I'm gonna say this so that there's no confusion.

1. Never talk about scum strategy at all. Scum have no QT. They can't talk with each other. Anyone who tries to discuss what scum should do is helping scum enormously, because one of the few advantages we have over scum is they can't coordinate. Because discussing scum strategy helps scum a ton, I will automatically assume anyone who does it is scum.

2. Generally, vote "no" more than "yes", especially to teams you're not on. This will let us see more teams and see people's votes on more teams. If you are neutral, by default you should vote "no" on any given team.

So you dont care what decision he makes and therefore what decision any future leader makes.
By dont care I mean you will react to the result of his decision but you wont censure the leader beforehand.
Im sure that will work out for us....


Just read resistance guides. There are so many out there.


...yes? I'll react to what happens. Given Palmar's zero posts so far in the thread, I can definitely say I have no read on him. Did you expect something else?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 14 2014 07:49 GMT
#50
On October 14 2014 16:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont expect anything.

Your plan is we let the leader do whatever he wants the vote. Correct?
Or is it just for day 1.


"let the leader do whatever he wants the vote"...? maybe i'm having an off day here but I really don't understand what you're saying. at all. The leader does not control my vote. I control my vote.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 14 2014 18:11 GMT
#117
I do think the default should be "no". Look, I'm not saying you shouldn't vote yes, or shouldn't allow yourself to be convinced. In fact, if everyone only voted "no" then there would be no point to voting no, because it wouldn't gain any info, right? I think that unless you have a reason to believe it's 3 townies in a team, if you're like "eugggg not sure", then you vote "no". I'm also not saying that we can't hold people accountable for "no" votes. But there will be more information if we vote no more than we vote yes. In the situation Palmer is talking about, people had legit reasons to think Dirk and Navi were town (less on Navi, but still). The fact that it's possible for a yes-vote-default system to work, doesn't mean that it's the best system. It's worth noting that Tunnel Rats eventually _did_ become a "no by default" system and we had issues where no team was passing, so I wouldn't even hold it up as an exmaple of "yes by default is good" since it wasn't yes by default. As scum I had to explicitly step in to avoid an inevitable "loss for both sides because nobody votes in a team" due to the way the rules were structures.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 14 2014 21:09 GMT
#128
works for me
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 14 2014 21:17 GMT
#130
>sees BH vote
>asks someone who isn't BH why he's voting
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 14 2014 21:18 GMT
#131
what is it, batsnacks, you afraid to state your opinion before hearing other people talk?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 14 2014 21:23 GMT
#134
On October 15 2014 06:21 batsnacks wrote:
I was thinking about this specifically:

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 21:40 Palmar wrote:
On October 14 2014 21:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Although we can see if there's a weird yay vote that shouldn't be there.
Men, voting patterns work both ways.

Yeah, but a yes vote is a much less neutral affair. a yes vote from someone not on the mission is always going to be a big deal.

Doesn't matter, you'll see when we get to actually voting.


Why so confrontational BH?


What's your opinion? Still not seeing an opinion out of you
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 14 2014 21:31 GMT
#136
On October 15 2014 06:25 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 06:23 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:21 batsnacks wrote:
I was thinking about this specifically:

On October 14 2014 21:40 Palmar wrote:
On October 14 2014 21:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Although we can see if there's a weird yay vote that shouldn't be there.
Men, voting patterns work both ways.

Yeah, but a yes vote is a much less neutral affair. a yes vote from someone not on the mission is always going to be a big deal.

Doesn't matter, you'll see when we get to actually voting.


Why so confrontational BH?


What's your opinion? Still not seeing an opinion out of you


My opinion is that you're being unnecessarily confrontational.


what's your opinion on the team?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 14 2014 21:38 GMT
#138
On October 15 2014 06:34 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 06:31 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:25 batsnacks wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:23 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:21 batsnacks wrote:
I was thinking about this specifically:

On October 14 2014 21:40 Palmar wrote:
On October 14 2014 21:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Although we can see if there's a weird yay vote that shouldn't be there.
Men, voting patterns work both ways.

Yeah, but a yes vote is a much less neutral affair. a yes vote from someone not on the mission is always going to be a big deal.

Doesn't matter, you'll see when we get to actually voting.


Why so confrontational BH?


What's your opinion? Still not seeing an opinion out of you


My opinion is that you're being unnecessarily confrontational.


what's your opinion on the team?


Please and thank you, magic words, etc.

Spoon full of sugar, etc.

I don't have an opinion on the team. Marv said putting him on the team is a terrible idea and palmar did it anyway. Liam is pretty cool I like the cut of his jib. That's all I got. Why did you yay them?


what do you think of Palmar and Marv?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 14 2014 21:52 GMT
#140
On October 15 2014 06:46 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 06:38 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:34 batsnacks wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:31 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:25 batsnacks wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:23 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:21 batsnacks wrote:
I was thinking about this specifically:

On October 14 2014 21:40 Palmar wrote:
On October 14 2014 21:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Although we can see if there's a weird yay vote that shouldn't be there.
Men, voting patterns work both ways.

Yeah, but a yes vote is a much less neutral affair. a yes vote from someone not on the mission is always going to be a big deal.

Doesn't matter, you'll see when we get to actually voting.


Why so confrontational BH?


What's your opinion? Still not seeing an opinion out of you


My opinion is that you're being unnecessarily confrontational.


what's your opinion on the team?


Please and thank you, magic words, etc.

Spoon full of sugar, etc.

I don't have an opinion on the team. Marv said putting him on the team is a terrible idea and palmar did it anyway. Liam is pretty cool I like the cut of his jib. That's all I got. Why did you yay them?


what do you think of Palmar and Marv?


I think Palmar either town reads or is trying to town read marv. I think marv does not town read palmar.


I do not care what you think they think about each other, despite your repeated attempts to tell me what theyh think about each other. I care about what YOU think of them. Do you thinkt his is a good team? Come on, man.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 15 2014 09:34 GMT
#167
With 8 players the mission size is 3 4 4 5* 5 right

this means the Oats question can be averted fairly easily, getting the entire townteam right only matters for mission 5.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 15 2014 10:26 GMT
#173
I buy bats as town, he'd never be so obtuse as scum
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 15 2014 10:29 GMT
#175
On October 15 2014 19:27 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 19:26 Blazinghand wrote:
I buy bats as town, he'd never be so obtuse as scum

This is a good part of my read on him, yes

bats has his own special charm as town, which doesn't bother me at all but does others apparently (see: Cell)


oh, it bothers the heck out of me, he's an annoying dunderhead, but no way scum is such an annoying dunderhead
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 15 2014 10:29 GMT
#176
I feel like I am at my best as a mafia player when I'm calling people town by insulting them
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