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Blazinghand
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On October 25 2014 08:05 liancourt wrote:but of of course you suggested it. and um lets not announce how we're voting. Spies get too much info through it
fine, i'm not gonna announce how i'm voting, except to say that everyone should, like me, nayvote this team
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Blazinghand
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On October 25 2014 08:07 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2014 07:55 Blazinghand wrote: OK, I'm voting no to any team that includes batsnacks from now on since he tried to communicate a scum strat. seems clear enough to me. Also, his team includes marv, who is scum. Lots of reasons! i think hf posted that before the game even began but through that logic marv must be town
why
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Blazinghand
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On October 25 2014 08:25 liancourt wrote: marv's team succeeded and he was first...no wait that doesn't make sense. If marv and bats were spy marv was first so he'd sabo. But since it was only bats spy he prolly thought not to sabo on the first mission to get himself a town read. If there's 2 spies on the same team they have to think whether or not to sabo or not taking into consideration of the other spy in the team. If it's a rule of thumb that when there's 2 spy on the same team that the first person sabos then marv should have sabo'd but he didn't so makes him town in my eyes.
I may be misunderstanding you here, so tell me if this is correct. You're saying:
If Marv and Bats were both spies, Marv would sabo and Bats wouldn't. You think Bats was the only spy, and he played the long game and held back. If there were two spies, they might run into coordination problems with saboing or not. If there are 2 spies, usually the first person sabos (as Bats said), so if they were both spies, marv would have saboed.
I don't think you're wrong that in a marv + bats spy situation, bats always passes the mission. Since marv suggested the mission, he's in charge of saboing or not saboing. Where I think you're wrong is where you assume that marv always sabos when he brings along a scum bats. Admittedly, it's more likely that marv is scum and brought two townies with him (bats and oats are great choices since they're both super bad at defending), and played the long game. I think that's good evidence for marv being scum over marv + bats. But I dont' get how you come to the "therefore, bats is scum and marv isn't". Like, sure, it's kinda a risky move to bring bats with you on the first mission if you're a scum marv and bats is scum. But why does this mean that Bats is scum and not Marv?
Since Marv is significantly smarter and a better player than bats, a high level strat like holding your fire on the first mission to gain towncred is something that he's more likely to do than bats. If we go with the "there's one scum" theory, which is a reasonable theory, that theory points to the expert scum-player Marv choosing two weak townies to go with him and blending in for one mission.
regardless, we gotta nayvote this mission as it has both Marv and Bats
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Blazinghand
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dw marv just claiming scum
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Blazinghand
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Oh oops got confused. Put me down as a nay
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Blazinghand
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what is it with people and including marv?
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Blazinghand
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yeah i'm nay voting this one
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Blazinghand
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I'm just gonna nayvote you regardless unless you present a truly awesome team, because if you get nayvoted then *I* get to suggest a team.
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Blazinghand
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I'm pretty ok with Liam and Palm. interesting though Damdred that you don't try to get yourself on the team???
IMO Alakaslam you should bring me along. I've done a good job of pushing the conversation forward and trying to discern people's alignments in a public way. Although I haven't been perfect, and I've said things that people think are scummy, I haven't been afraid to say those things. I am not some cringing manservant of the "nay-triarchy" who will dumb down his ideas because the naytriachy says they're not allowed. If I have a reason for someone being scum, even if people think it's dumb, I'll share it.
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Blazinghand
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On October 28 2014 08:34 Damdred wrote: Up to this point I really haven't tried to put myself out their to much so why should I be on a team? I want to win this game even though people have given up its still winnable and the best thing to do is to start getting thoughts out there maybe this isn't the team i should be on but its better to get thoughts out then not
yeah ok but look at it this way. if you want to get a team without yourself on it, you have to correctly identify the alignments of every other player in the game (4 town, 3 scum). However, if you include yourself on a team, you only have to identify 3 townies, not 4. So if you see 4 players who are sorta-scummy and you're not sure which one of them is the 4th townie, you can just grab the other team and have a team of 4. Or just in general, it's much lower-risk. I don't see why you wouldn't want yourself on a team
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Blazinghand
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eh, fair enough. still probably(?) not bringin you on my team when it's my turn. we'll see.
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Blazinghand
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On October 28 2014 08:57 liancourt wrote: I m going give out my analysis once we go through a cycle and we go full circle back to palmars team. At the moment giving that analysis seems risky.
yeah unless you are like a hundo percent sure palmar is town, you shoud just post now rather than later. Palmar is captain #5 so his team gets automatically accepted if it goes to him.
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Blazinghand
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Blazinghand
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On October 28 2014 09:03 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2014 08:58 Blazinghand wrote:On October 28 2014 08:57 liancourt wrote: I m going give out my analysis once we go through a cycle and we go full circle back to palmars team. At the moment giving that analysis seems risky. yeah unless you are like a hundo percent sure palmar is town, you shoud just post now rather than later. Palmar is captain #5 so his team gets automatically accepted if it goes to him. Aw fux but i need to see all 8 teams this aint good....
just post your ideas dude i'm not gonna bite your head off literally
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Blazinghand
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or I could be town and marv is actually scum
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Blazinghand
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plausible, I admit.
I'd like to note that the observation "people don't bring bh on teams" does not equate to "bh is scum". Rather, it equates to "people think bh is scum" which is of course not the same thing at all
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Blazinghand
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On October 29 2014 03:40 batsnacks wrote: I do think you're mafia though
Fair enough. I'm sure you've already explained yourself, but I'm here via phone and can't filter dive easily. Can you link me to your reasoning why I'm mafia?
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Blazinghand
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I'm still pretty sure marv is scum, and was the guy who sabotaged, so I'm nayvoting this team. I'll suggest a better team.
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