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In general I would have expected you to be against people claiming | ||
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I'm left wondering why he didn't just say it was a joke instead of getting super defensive. | ||
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On October 06 2014 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote: Batsnacks test is bound to bring up false positives cause scum aint gonna claim first or second or third or fourth. So if scum arnt talking, his test is useless and a waste of time. if scum actually aren't going to claim first/second/third/fourth this strategy would be amazing for town hunting. | ||
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On October 06 2014 23:20 Oatsmaster wrote: So you arent town then? As scum, if someone suggests a fakeclaim, do you go anywhere near it until most of the thread agrees its a good idea? lol actually no. I would probably wait to see if something like this ends up happening. I'm just saying because you're so insistent that what Batsnacks did was shit for finding mafia and then you argued that the first people to join the claim would be town. Which should actually make Batsnack's plan helpful as now you're town reading people for claiming. | ||
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BH wants to follow RNG but he will do what he can to convince other people to vote for OO. He doesn't care if people lynch OO for other reasons aside from RNG as long as it's OO that is lynched. BH you said you don't have an opinion on Oats post's. Do you have an opinion on HF's posts attacking Oat's posts? | ||
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On October 07 2014 04:52 liancourt wrote: Would there be any difference if I were a smurf or not? I think I told the mod what I am. Not particularly but I like trying to guess smurfs Your first post is a post I don't see a new player making. | ||
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On October 07 2014 04:59 liancourt wrote: I am from somewhere else. So in a way I am new but not new. Take what you will. So guess the smurf game is over. How should a new player post? Hi i am new here lets be friends? No they would put a lot of thought into whether they should claim. | ||
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On October 07 2014 06:57 Alakaslam wrote: Mistake, mistake and mistake- upon our way to victory!!! that's how you win the Chupazi way | ||
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On October 07 2014 08:06 Grackaroni wrote: So when can we question you? The game where you roll scum and you say "go ahead and question me I'm scum so I'll be here until end game." This game was the heavyweight championship game btw. tsk tsk 3-4 is the reasonable assumption for mafia with 14 people so the 22% isn't very strange to me. | ||
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What I see is BH working off the assumption that random lynch provides at least 22% chance of hitting mafia compared to day 1 analysis which varies (and BH thinks is worse for catching mafia) | ||
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Both of those statements I would agree with right now thus I am voting OO | ||
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On October 07 2014 12:43 Damdred wrote: Well it is mostly my opinion that an rng lynch won't hold up today. It could be very well that BH gets it done if that's what he pushes. Tomorrow is going to be a very interesting day. I could honestly still envision almost anyone getting lynched. | ||
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On October 07 2014 13:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote: So asking people about why their reasoning is bad and seeing how far they're willing to push it is nothingness? Focusing on people who state that other players are "interesting" without bothering to follow it up is scummy? Yeah, okay. You're being ridiculous. What kind of follow up did you expect? There's literally nothing that Damdred could have said to follow up on OO not defending himself. I think it's absolutely absurd that you think that Damdred's statement about OO is the most worthwhile thing to pursue in the thread. Your posts about BH are really just back seat coaching, which scum do a lot. they reveals nothing about your thoughts on the people reading BH based on his RNG push and nothing on your own thoughts about BH. | ||
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I like Obiwan for a vote. ##Unvote: OO ##Vote: Obiwan | ||
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On October 07 2014 04:41 Blazinghand wrote: I do. I think HF's reasoning based on the VT claim shenannies are consistent with HF's reasoning as town. This reasoning is solid enough. The follow-up about "why are you in caps lock" isn't meaningful, but I think HF believes himself to be correct. Normally I'd find his attachment to that piece scummy but I really like the follow-up he posts right here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?page=14#268 The attempt to leverage the current situation on OO by asking OO about Oats is a solid way to develop a read on both of them. This "continuance" piece is harder for scum to think of but fits well with a tunneled HF on Oats. Due to these reasons, I do not believe HF is a good lynch today. This post in particular. BH could easily avoid answering the question in a BH-y way. Even though he is doing his standard random lynch he's actually providing some nice insight. | ||
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On October 07 2014 11:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: This is going to be a really small postcount game. Nobody else seems interested in moving the thread forward which really bothers me. Bleed towniness. Yeah this is a really strange post. How can you really say this sincerely from the perspective of somebody who hasn't even read through the thread. For all you knew somebody could have been spewing towniness and you just never read it. | ||
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On October 07 2014 12:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't feel particularly confident reading either of those players right now. I'm looking, and they look kind of town I guess...Maybe. I have no solid wisdom to impart here, lool. On October 07 2014 14:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote: You might. I don't. And I didn't even read your filter. I don't know what you're trying to do here. uhhhh I went back to the Hopeless interaction you keep mentioning and its raising further questions. | ||
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Obi never answered my question and nobody has commented on this at all. On October 07 2014 15:03 Grackaroni wrote: uhhhh I went back to the Hopeless interaction you keep mentioning and its raising further questions. I think this is easily the scummiest thing in the thread. | ||
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On October 08 2014 07:41 batsnacks wrote: If no one here knew each other I think a few more people would have scum read BH for his RNG thing. I also think if no one here knew each other more than a few people would be scum reading palmar. BH and palmar play a lot though, so just about everyone but Liam is used to seeing this from both of them. And I think it's positive that he learned, accepted, and worked with that in regards to BH. This is absolutely true. I understand where his reads are coming from his perspective and if I came here from another forum I would be suspicious of people like BH or myself at the start of the game trying to push the lynch off to RNG and avoid analysis. We all know BH is going to do his thing and I'm actually still going to attempt to solve the game despite the fact that I like RNG. | ||
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On October 08 2014 07:43 Damdred wrote: Grack if I said there is a decent chance bats could be scum would you think I'm crazy I'm not scumreading bats but I would love to hear your reasoning | ||
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On October 08 2014 07:42 StorrZerg wrote: Why the priority on "logic" when i feel the majority of people that are reading him scum has to do with how he scum reads people, and that he is very wishy washy with reads, and is only really scum reading inactives. new to the forum. 5 page filter already. Low content game. Enough said really. You don't like that he's pushing people for supporting RNG but I think theres genuine reason for why he's suspicious of people pushing RNG. | ||
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On October 08 2014 07:42 Holyflare wrote: he did answer you by talking to me instead and brushed it off like you were voting him for no reason Yeah but he essentially just ignored the question. | ||
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On October 08 2014 07:53 Blazinghand wrote: I gotta say, I don't view the lack of pushback on the OO lynch as a serious problem. If he's playing like this as scum, why would his scumteam do anything to save him? They'd obviously bus him. I disagree. It's one thing to be open to lynching him and its another thing to just completely ignore the obi suspicion when HF/I were pushing hard on obi. I feel pretty strongly that if OO is scum and Obi is town then there would be some people agreeing with Obi being scum so they have another option to switch to if OO ends up not being the lynch. | ||
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On October 08 2014 08:07 Blazinghand wrote: OK, let's say I grant you that scum would consider other lynches if OO was scum. Let's say that's true, for the sake of this argument. Consider the alternative situation. Let's say OO is town, right? You're scum and you see this apathetic, useless townie going up for the lynch. Do you just hop on the wagon mindlessly (remember, this is a somewhat contested wagon, people are saying things like "people are voting this wagon so they don't have to discuss") or do you try to bring up an alternative lynch candidate? As scum, you want to appear to be that paranoid townie who didn't trust the D1 wagon, if OO was town. It would be like "OO the townie has been lynched!" and then the scum player would be like "ugh, come on guys, look at this long post I wrote (on another townie), that despite my pushing was ignored! Come on, guys! get with the program!" and he'd collect town cred. So, I think we can agree scum would consider other lynches if OO was town, too, right? In fact, I think no matter what OO's alignment is, it makes sense for scum to push other lynches because his lynch, though contested, is inevitable and there's little to be gained by pushing it. Now, does it make sense to raise a huge rabble and draw a ton of attention to yourself as scum in this situation? I think regardless of OO's alignment, the answer is "no". Whatever OO will flip, you want to do a decent effort on pushing another wagon (or at least one person on the team should), but in a quiet D1 like this rocking the boat will only draw attention. In any case, I guess the point I'm getting at here is it's reasonable to say that scum will push OR not push another wagon, either way, at some moderate amount, regardless of OO's alignment. Your statement, which is that scum would push another wagon if OO was scum, is also true for if OO is town, and so isn't useful in determining OO's alignment. God, I hate associative tells between unflipped people I agree scum would want to have other suspicions if OO is town and some people did consider Liancourt scum when Storr wrote some things about Liancourt. I just didn't see anyone consider obi scum when HF/I really put a lot of effort into trying to make people consider obi scum so that makes me believe obi is mafia regardless of OO. But yeah scum would be even more incentivized to suspect Obi if the wagon is already falling on mafia. This really isn't helpful for other people because it could just be no mafia is joining because HF/I are mafia and we were trying to find a mislynch but I just like to look at games in this way. | ||
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On October 08 2014 08:37 StorrZerg wrote: the point is he isn't actually calling anyone scum........................... He's trying to solve the game though. He goes through the thread and picks out the things that he finds alignment indicative and has come up with a bunch of town reads. He suspects the people who haven't been posting because he hasn't found reasons for them to be town. You may not like the way he's playing the game but it doesn't make him scum. | ||
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On October 08 2014 10:33 Holyflare wrote: doesn't mention anything about palmar, doesn't say anything about the people voting him even though he thinks they were mafia before, wants to lynch palmar wut Now thats just not true HF he called me shit! | ||
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On October 08 2014 12:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote: The bottom line is that OO is a policy lynch, plain and simple. Me not contributing towards a policy lynch doesn't make me mafia. Literally the dumbest. that's fair. But you still haven't answered my question of how you were able to look into me and make a read on me without reading my filter or the thread | ||
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On October 09 2014 01:40 batsnacks wrote: I really want him to be mafia so it would be great if he could help me scum read him. Rofl I love these bat traps. Oats tell me your scummiest post. AHA! Oats is scum, see the post that oats just quoted. Bat trapped | ||
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On October 09 2014 02:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I can't find anything that makes them anything. I promise you I'm something | ||
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On October 09 2014 02:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Alternatively alternatively, BH's analysis was actually really bad and he's mostly just rehashing stuff other people have said. Why do people have him as town? Because it's Blazinghand | ||
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On October 09 2014 02:49 Damdred wrote: BH seems interested, and is actually doing things and pushing his lynch today. Normally when hes scum in almost every scum game i've seen or read, he makes excuses complains and only posts during the time hes not "busy". here he is the opposite he has been in the thread, has argued not complained and not made excuses for his absence plus he did lynch scum oo day one and put rng on him even before he made his entrance into the thread. You know BH doesn't choose who gets RNGed. That's kind of the whole point of RNG. | ||
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On October 09 2014 03:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Grack posted bad analysis and I changed my read. He went from "approaching a situation with reasonable doubt" to "this guy is scum because he didn't read my filter" which is bad analysis. There's no "non-reason" that I can see, so if you could elaborate on that point, that would be cool because I'm apparently not in the know. The rest of my lynch targets I have either talked over with Kelsier as of the past hour or so, or I've outright told you. My reason wasn't actually that you didn't read the thread but that you were complaining about nobody posting trying to progress the thread while not having read the thread - which I found fake and scummy Palmar didn't read the thread but I didn't care because he wasn't complaining about low content in the game. | ||
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On October 09 2014 03:15 Grackaroni wrote: My reason wasn't actually that you didn't read the thread but that you were complaining about nobody posting trying to progress the thread while not having read the thread - which I found fake and scummy Palmar didn't read the thread but I didn't care because he wasn't complaining about low content in the game. *Kind of like how mafia might show up after a lynch and complain that it was a bad lynch while having done nothing to try to change the lynch earlier, | ||
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On October 09 2014 03:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:  id nothing to get the lynch off of what you perceive to be his partner.Yes. Very scum. 10/10 Wat | ||
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On October 09 2014 03:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote: You're accusing me of complaining about the lynch while doing nothing to change it. I did nothing to divert the lynch off of scum. Thus I am scum. Qed. No I was making an analogy for my earlier statement | ||
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On October 09 2014 04:20 Blazinghand wrote: This would be in violation of TL Forum rules, but yes, if you're willing to go that far, it could be done. hmmm I think I've already learned that there are no limits to the lengths BH will go to win at mafia. | ||
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On October 09 2014 10:46 Holyflare wrote: going to bed, i shot obi, gg lol | ||
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Not sure what happened to the scum shot it probably hit HF | ||
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His reaction at the start of the game was really weird though and he kept pushing newer players so I thought it was his scum play | ||
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On October 10 2014 06:59 Palmar wrote: I don't care if you shoot me, I just want to make sure rest of town understands that you need to be lynched if you do because it's objectively the wrong play to shoot me. I always defend myself when I'm under threat of a lynch as town which is a good use of time. You didn't take any time to even consider whether I could be town and shooting you. I honestly know that you actually AREN'T egotistical enough to think that anyone considering shooting you is scum when you're doing absolutely nothing. All you're trying to do right now is make me afraid to shoot you. | ||
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On October 10 2014 08:07 Damdred wrote: If i was so into tunneling i would be going for bats right now honesty has the one who voted me free all. However i think you re decently scullery now you are soft pushing hoping for support. I've pressured people asked questions nd did a case. So not as unless slyly make out. Why he you singing? And in not ignoring you blazing up respond in depth when i hit a comp or better signl hahaha the auto correct is so bad it looks like a slam post | ||
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I basically just let you yell about OWS backpedaling because I thought OWS was scummy for other reasons and didn't care if you wanted to vote him for backpedaling | ||
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I don't like that Damdred never made an effort to try to get Lian lynched today. When I write out a case on somebody I'm doing it because I want to try to convince people to lynch him today rather than just to show that I am suspicious of somebody. It's not like HF wrote out an amazing case and the lynch was decided for the day. I could see Damdred as scum choose to not push Lian today because he doesn't want to get on HF's bad side. The points I dislike: The bussing posts. It's mostly just speculation. I could reasonably see a townie being suspicious of somebody for voting themselves after being RNGed and for his reaction. (I wasn't suspicious of OO for those posts but I could see someone else suspecting him) the post where he tries to get OO to contribute doesn't have to be made in thread; He could just tell him to do something in the scum QT if he is mafia. There's no real reason why Damdred's vote on OO is him bussing OO compared to anyone else's vote on OO. In fact your vote is the one i think is most likely to be a bus vote because you actually liked OO's tone at the start of the game and you were fighting policy lynches earlier in the day. The BH points are quite bad in my opinion. it's pretty clear Damdred wasn't trying to make a suspicion of BH in that post and I don't mind the insufferable post either. Overall I'm not convinced that Damdred is a better lynch than you. I think a better case could be made for you being scum. | ||
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On October 11 2014 05:58 Hopeless1der wrote: Where did I actually try to STOP OO's lynch? I busted HF's balls a bit because he explicitly said not to let him pursue policy lynches. And I did like OO's tone at the start...then he did nothing at all. you didn't try to stop the lynch. You were bitching for a bit that we were just doing a policy lynch and then you jumped on the wagon later in the day. | ||
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-Likes OO's tone -Dislikes that we're policy lynching a lurker . . . Votes OO because he's lurking | ||
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I think there's actually a point in your favor that you aren't scum reading Obi seeing as he looks like the only person being truly considered as a counter wagon at the moment. | ||
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On October 11 2014 05:33 Holyflare wrote: Theres so much more than this too. If you said my reasons are good then by extension obi's are too. I don't thiiink I'd even written anything about hopeless at that point either. You're scum reading obi further for not explaining his town read on me when he did and it actually makes sense (town reading him when he was under pressure etc) instead of jumping further on me whereas when hopeless exhibits all of these traits with far scummier motives you ignore him because of obi who IS actually explaining I don't think these are very good reasons for scum reading Hopeless. These posts are a much more apt description of Palmar's play really. | ||
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Perhaps he may be trying to tell us something... | ||
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On October 11 2014 06:33 Holyflare wrote: This isn't the reasons I'm giving for hopeless this is that obi did give reasons but kelsier is saying he isn't. Yeah I know. You said Obi gave good reasons. KSC said Obi didn't give good reasons. I'll have to side with KSC on this one. | ||
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On October 11 2014 06:38 StorrZerg wrote: damd could be a better lynch. both my scum targets want him dead, if he flips town they both look worse. if he flips scum, then that means i probably am reading 2 townies wrong. regarding hopeless, case woot nice job. this makes me consider damd as a possibility. liam makes me not want to consider damd because his inability to make a case on damd. (his original insight struck a cord, and i wanted to know more, as well as see what he would do if he pressured damd more, instead i was meet with "why don't you make more reads storr" / "i can't read someone who is just scum reading me with no other reads" ) which also brings me to HF, and his badgering. i don't like the phrasing "perfect defense". / yet i can agree that damd did well on his defense. I still think the major point on obi back peddling and trying to force it off "oo" near the end isn't valid at all. That is surely at the point where "oo" is saying to his scum buddies sack me good long and hard. So i don't see it as a possibility for scum obi to make those remarks. So this still brings me back to liam who i have been "tunneling" for a while now, and pushing him. With plenty of people saying "yes he scummy" yet unwilling to push him more. and hopeless, who i think is scum regarding his interactions with the "oo" lynch. I find his timing, far more indicative of scum behavior before "oo" has told his team he doesn't care and is giving up. It's mostly just BH saying this and we're never going to convince him that backtrack wasn't scummy and he's town so there's not much that can be done about that. | ||
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On October 11 2014 06:48 Blazinghand wrote: what if I discover he's an amazing lynch? then I'd have to unvote OWS. We can't be having that I promise there's some good stuff to read in there! There was an RNG and it hit OWS! You don't have to read it if you don't want to but I'd like your opinion because I'm flip flopping. | ||
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On October 11 2014 06:53 Hopeless1der wrote: He knows about the RNG, he even verified I did it correctly. lol i saw. From now on I am checking BH's post history before his RNGs... | ||
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On October 11 2014 06:51 Alakaslam wrote: Yes!! Grack does it again My motivations are my own; why would I go, as mafia, and basically take a dung on my own perfect SVENGALI if you all feel I am town? Nay far more likely that though I was pleased with being essentially "confirmed", I grew bored; since I know I am horrible at scum hunting, I tried to get in on some actuon regarding me. Then stuff went down and though I was ignored, I was content to toss out my 2¢ on all te shut storms Well I have attaxxed you slam for skummi. Your reasons may be chupazi hijole! nah I bet they be bamcis | ||
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On October 11 2014 13:06 batsnacks wrote: You could have lynched him I was very serious about it. Yeah but then HF said I would have to shoot into Hopeless or Obi if we lynched someone else so I figured it'd be much easier to give HF his lynch and then shoot whoever I felt like shooting | ||
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On October 08 2014 06:36 KelsierSC wrote: Alright I have work early tomorrow so going to give my reads in brief form as they stand and post my vote. Town Grak - happy entry to the thread, gave insightful comments on BH, was paying close attention to obi enough to catch him in a "slip" Storr - Seemed town early with his lian pressure, seems very focused on him, excellent post damning lian which I pretty much 100% agreed with. Ala - I like how he pointed out how HF just stepped in and started flinging at oats, had a null on obi at a time when that was correct . Early town read but that is how my D1 works. Dam - Seems to be like his D1 last game when he was town, could be more active though BH - RNG was dumb but it worked out and mentioning how OO responded to it felt towny, Grak thinks he is town. BS - Liked the early Bats trap Oats - seemed genuinely frustrated with bats in a town way Obi - good entry and asked good questions to formulate reads, seemed genuinely pissed off with HF attacking him. Not happy with his reads of grak, HF and hope but I think he is just pissed off with grak and HF so OMGUS Null Hope - Didn't like his early play but seemed to have a good early read of lian. HF - Think some of my town called him town, don't like that he has pushed on people I called town. Could be eager beaver, misguided town. Could be scum Scum OO - got caught with the RNG, awkward posted and fucked off Lian - everyone is null, wanted to lynch dama/storr over OO. Palmar - inactive, lazy, think his reads are false. Day1 you seemed to feel Hopeless was pretty scummy and you gave a town read to obi because he questioned dam/lian On October 08 2014 16:56 KelsierSC wrote: Alright caught up with the thread, I thought OO would have put up more of a vote than that. First thing I am changing Palmar to town for now. To me everyone who voted on obi is town, I don't think mafia had any chance of getting a counter wagon started so it made more sense to just stick on OO and try and gain credibility. I thought Obi was scummy around the voting stage, he left his weird vote on HF, yeh we get it you are annoyed with him but like that amount of omgus is just bad for town. He then tried to get something going on palmar but was then instantly like "oh only joking, lol lol" Also seemed depressed after we lynched mafia but that may have been because it turns out HF is vig. I know where I want to focus tomorrow but I think I will leave that till the day phase begins. Your reasoning here doesn't make much sense to me and doesn't really seem good enough to warrant a full flip-flop on your reads. You argue mafia didn't have much of a chance to start a counter wagon so they would probably vote Obi for towncred, thus you town read me/Palmar/Batsnacks for being on a counter wagon. However, in your mind Obi also tried to start a counter wagon on Palmar rather than just sit back and say nothing but that makes him scummy? Leaving a vote on HF was understandable in your earlier read of Obi because he was annoyed at HF but now you think that Obi leaving his vote on HF is scummy. It really feels like you were just taking advantage of the thread sentiment against obi started by Blazinghand rather than making your own read. Throughout all of day 2 even though Hopeless was the main wagon for the day you didn't give an opinion on anything in his filter and just said that he's town because obi is pushing him, which I think was an incredibly scummy way to avoid addressing Hopeless. You even said you would be scum reading Hopeless if it wasn't for Obi pushing him. I would have expected some sort of attempt to interact with Hopeless. | ||
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What I'm reading is: KSC: "Palmar/Grack/BS are town because mafia would know they wouldn't be able to save OO so they probably chose to bus him for town cred" followed by "Obi is scum he tried to save OO by pushing Palmar and then he backtracked" Basically I see you calling us town because you feel scum weren't going to try to save OO while calling Obi scum for trying to save OO. | ||
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On October 12 2014 12:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I really won't complain a whole lot if you do tbh, I just want the three people voting me to die horrifically. lol thats exactly what I've been thinking. | ||
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On October 12 2014 13:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I think you might be letting confirmation bias affect you. I just don't see the scum motivation in HF's posting at all. I'm saying those are the people who could have realistically been shot by mafia night one. Palmar was a non-presence and Storr did nothing but tunnel Lian and Lian wasn't mafia | ||
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On October 14 2014 05:58 StorrZerg wrote: grack thoughts? Yeah sorry I've got class at the moment and exams coming up. I'll be on later tonight before the deadline | ||
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his reaction to being called scum by Hopeless was also really different from his OMGUS reaction to being called scum by Palmar which gives me scum vibes. | ||
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On October 11 2014 05:08 Damdred wrote: hopeless is not even looking at anything i posted he just picked out a few things and tried to pain them scummy. BH any reactions yet On October 11 2014 12:47 Damdred wrote: I disagree obi hopeless didn't just fuck off he did come back and fight, he looks more towny than he did. theres still a good chance hes scum All I really remember Hopeless doing in terms of fighting was pushing his case on you and jumping on Obi despite thinking Obi was town | ||
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On October 14 2014 03:24 Damdred wrote: You do not even respond to what I actually say the reasons why I would vote you are. You just try to find some semblance of scummy play and push it. Hopeless did it d1-2, you started in on it as well since you couldn't remember anything I posted up to that point even though you hadn't read the game. Soon as you come into the thread on d3 you start pushing me with no evidence to back it up. Then you jump on HF, the reasons are logical but i disagree with them. I voted you for the reasons I posted so good luck next game scumpalmar, die with your mafia buddies. I'm just finding his reaction to Hopeless just picking out quotes to paint him scummy very different from his reaction to Palmar picking out quotes to paint him scummy | ||
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On October 14 2014 13:16 Holyflare wrote: because he's who i stuck on for a long time and grack said he wanted to lynch him so i went with grack for a change because nobody was around to even discuss other than him You noob! Why would you go with my read that's just asking for disaster. After missing the Oats shot I was annoyed. After I missed on Lian I was really annoyed because I didn't even think it was a good shot. After that Damdred lynch I'm just laughing because really how can someone single-handedly kill 3 townies in a row. I'll definitely be back here tomorrow just as lost as I was today. | ||
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On October 14 2014 13:25 Holyflare wrote: and by useful actions i mean tank a bullet because i'm a vet nope. If there's no medic claim tomorrow HF is poisoner. And like Palmar said if theres 2 kills the only way town can win is if mafia is lynched tomorrow followed by poisoner. | ||
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On October 15 2014 09:16 StorrZerg wrote: hf whats your thought on pr roles claiming right before day post? Stay tuned at deadline for a shocking announcement! | ||
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On October 15 2014 09:16 StorrZerg wrote: hf whats your thought on pr roles claiming right before day post? I'm the vigil! | ||
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On October 15 2014 13:14 Holyflare wrote: he's been saying "the only person i wont lynch is hf", "hf is definitely town now" yeah actually I agree you can't be poisoner. He kept insisting that Palmar shot n1 was more likely than you being poisoner. | ||
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On October 15 2014 13:31 Holyflare wrote: there's also the fact that you haven't referenced yourself as a likely mislynch and how we should get you out of the way the entire game Tis trueeee | ||
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Grack: kills Oats/Liancourt HF: RB's KSC preventing him from being vigged. RB's slam over Palmar giving Palmar a chance to win. Obi: Checks HF n1 after HF's day 1 play. n2 he checked either Batsnacks or BH (probably BH) | ||
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On October 15 2014 13:50 Alakaslam wrote: Please write fast I have to sleep in ten minutes. haha its 6 am in UK | ||
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On October 15 2014 13:55 Holyflare wrote: Vote Count D2: ObiWanShinobi (4): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, KelsierSC, hopeless1der hopeless1der (6): ObiWanShinobi, Palmar, Damdred, Holyflare, Grackaroni, batsnacks liancourt (1): StorrZerg Damdred (1): Liancourt Not going to lie - just looking at the day2 votes I instinctively want to color it like this, BH shouts Obi is scum for his obvious backtrack on Palmar. Slam blindly follows BH because  blazing . KSC/Hopeless jump on Obi wagon and hope some people will follow BH's backtrack logic. Mafia gets lynched | ||
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On October 16 2014 15:05 Alakaslam wrote: Kelsier is not confirmed scum though, and poisoner can work with us so he might convince you guys to vote me if he PoE kelsier out. But he is so obviously not doing that that I am actually honestly confused and disgusted by it. I wanted an explanation or a surrender. You're disgusted by KSC not being here to convince us you're mafia? | ||
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On October 17 2014 13:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Eh, I thought you would just shoot him if you had a strong case on him because I was sure he was going to get lynched/shot anyway. Wharvez it worked out. Nah I was pretty content sheeping after missing my first shot. | ||
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On October 17 2014 19:26 Blazinghand wrote: You know, there's a certain class of player on TL Mafia that's difficult to read. I'd consider, say, alakaslam to fall into this category. I'd say I fall into this category. People generally say that the normal read rules don't apply to these people, or just admit they can't accurately form reads on these people. The most interesting case of this is that of Oatsmaster. Oatsmaster is difficult to read and has few tells either way, but instead of responding by learning his meta or using blue actions on him, TL seems to, just for Oatsmaster, respond by shooting and/or lynching him whenever possible, thinking he's scum. I did use a blue action on him! I shot him | ||
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