EPTOn October 08 2014 06:36 KelsierSC wrote:
Alright I have work early tomorrow so going to give my reads in brief form as they stand and post my vote.
Town
Grak - happy entry to the thread, gave insightful comments on BH, was paying close attention to obi enough to catch him in a "slip"
Storr - Seemed town early with his lian pressure, seems very focused on him, excellent post damning lian which I pretty much 100% agreed with.
Ala - I like how he pointed out how HF just stepped in and started flinging at oats, had a null on obi at a time when that was correct . Early town read but that is how my D1 works.
Dam - Seems to be like his D1 last game when he was town, could be more active though
BH - RNG was dumb but it worked out and mentioning how OO responded to it felt towny, Grak thinks he is town.
BS - Liked the early Bats trap
Oats - seemed genuinely frustrated with bats in a town way
Obi - good entry and asked good questions to formulate reads, seemed genuinely pissed off with HF attacking him.
Not happy with his reads of grak, HF and hope but I think he is just pissed off with grak and HF so OMGUS
Null
Hope - Didn't like his early play but seemed to have a good early read of lian.
HF - Think some of my town called him town, don't like that he has pushed on people I called town. Could be eager beaver, misguided town. Could be scum
Scum
OO - got caught with the RNG, awkward posted and fucked off
Lian - everyone is null, wanted to lynch dama/storr over OO.
Palmar - inactive, lazy, think his reads are false.
Alright I have work early tomorrow so going to give my reads in brief form as they stand and post my vote.
Town
Grak - happy entry to the thread, gave insightful comments on BH, was paying close attention to obi enough to catch him in a "slip"
Storr - Seemed town early with his lian pressure, seems very focused on him, excellent post damning lian which I pretty much 100% agreed with.
Ala - I like how he pointed out how HF just stepped in and started flinging at oats, had a null on obi at a time when that was correct . Early town read but that is how my D1 works.
Dam - Seems to be like his D1 last game when he was town, could be more active though
BH - RNG was dumb but it worked out and mentioning how OO responded to it felt towny, Grak thinks he is town.
BS - Liked the early Bats trap
Oats - seemed genuinely frustrated with bats in a town way
Obi - good entry and asked good questions to formulate reads, seemed genuinely pissed off with HF attacking him.
Not happy with his reads of grak, HF and hope but I think he is just pissed off with grak and HF so OMGUS
Null
Hope - Didn't like his early play but seemed to have a good early read of lian.
HF - Think some of my town called him town, don't like that he has pushed on people I called town. Could be eager beaver, misguided town. Could be scum
Scum
OO - got caught with the RNG, awkward posted and fucked off
Lian - everyone is null, wanted to lynch dama/storr over OO.
Palmar - inactive, lazy, think his reads are false.
Day1 you seemed to feel Hopeless was pretty scummy and you gave a town read to obi because he questioned dam/lian
On October 08 2014 16:56 KelsierSC wrote:
Alright caught up with the thread, I thought OO would have put up more of a vote than that.
First thing I am changing Palmar to town for now.
To me everyone who voted on obi is town, I don't think mafia had any chance of getting a counter wagon started so it made more sense to just stick on OO and try and gain credibility.
I thought Obi was scummy around the voting stage, he left his weird vote on HF, yeh we get it you are annoyed with him but like that amount of omgus is just bad for town.
He then tried to get something going on palmar but was then instantly like "oh only joking, lol lol"
Also seemed depressed after we lynched mafia but that may have been because it turns out HF is vig.
I know where I want to focus tomorrow but I think I will leave that till the day phase begins.
Alright caught up with the thread, I thought OO would have put up more of a vote than that.
First thing I am changing Palmar to town for now.
To me everyone who voted on obi is town, I don't think mafia had any chance of getting a counter wagon started so it made more sense to just stick on OO and try and gain credibility.
I thought Obi was scummy around the voting stage, he left his weird vote on HF, yeh we get it you are annoyed with him but like that amount of omgus is just bad for town.
He then tried to get something going on palmar but was then instantly like "oh only joking, lol lol"
Also seemed depressed after we lynched mafia but that may have been because it turns out HF is vig.
I know where I want to focus tomorrow but I think I will leave that till the day phase begins.
Your reasoning here doesn't make much sense to me and doesn't really seem good enough to warrant a full flip-flop on your reads. You argue mafia didn't have much of a chance to start a counter wagon so they would probably vote Obi for towncred, thus you town read me/Palmar/Batsnacks for being on a counter wagon.
However, in your mind Obi also tried to start a counter wagon on Palmar rather than just sit back and say nothing but that makes him scummy?
Leaving a vote on HF was understandable in your earlier read of Obi because he was annoyed at HF but now you think that Obi leaving his vote on HF is scummy.
It really feels like you were just taking advantage of the thread sentiment against obi started by Blazinghand rather than making your own read.
Throughout all of day 2 even though Hopeless was the main wagon for the day you didn't give an opinion on anything in his filter and just said that he's town because obi is pushing him, which I think was an incredibly scummy way to avoid addressing Hopeless. You even said you would be scum reading Hopeless if it wasn't for Obi pushing him. I would have expected some sort of attempt to interact with Hopeless.
