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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On September 22 2014 15:43 kushm4sta wrote: Why do anime's always have to be about school kids? maybe because only kids are dumb enough to like anime? Kush that's something i would only expect to hear from an old, grumpy grandpa. I think you're growing old. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
On September 22 2014 16:28 DarthPunk wrote: They are not always about school kids. And I like anime and I am not dumb nor am I a kid. That is a total lie. + Show Spoiler [You Know What I'm Going To Say] + We all know you're secretly a 14 year old girl with a crush on Justin Bieber. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
That being said there are some pretty good anime about high school kids. Like the Melancholy of haruhi suzumiya, Toradora!, Angel Beats! etc. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On September 22 2014 16:45 geript wrote: That is a total lie. + Show Spoiler [You Know What I'm Going To Say] + We all know you're secretly a 14 year old girl with a crush on Justin Bieber. Having heard my voice, I'm not sure how you could even pretend to believe that. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On September 22 2014 16:56 DarthPunk wrote: There is a whole lot of Seinen out there also. Not everything is aimed at kids. Like most forms of media there are different genres that suit different demographics. Yeah, I'm not saying you don't have good anime or anime aimed at adults out there. I consider myself a connoisseur of anime and I think there's really good stuff out there, even in the mecha genre. If the question is what's the deal with all this kid MCs, the answer is that a good proportion of anime, most of anime, is aimed at kids. It's a diverse genre with all kinds of stuff though. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On September 22 2014 17:00 Blazinghand wrote: Yeah, I'm not saying you don't have good anime or anime aimed at adults out there. I consider myself a connoisseur of anime and I think there's really good stuff out there, even in the mecha genre. If the question is what's the deal with all this kid MCs, the answer is that a good proportion of anime, most of anime, is aimed at kids. It's a diverse genre with all kinds of stuff though. I have only watched two mecha anime, Accel World and Eureka Seven. Both were pretty good. I only started watching anime in May though so i'm a noobie. Not a huge fan of the mecha concept overall either. | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On September 22 2014 17:02 DarthPunk wrote: I have only watched two mecha anime, Accel World and Eureka Seven. Both were pretty good. I only started watching anime in May though so i'm a noobie. I would beg to differ. I think we need to differenciate anime types properly first. There are those anime like vanguard, beyblade etc. That arr oobviouly meant to sell toys to children. However, there are also anime like gundam 00, madoka or clannad, which may seem like something kids watch, but you don't really want kids near those shows. What i feel is that these themes appeal to most of their viewerbase (read: otakus and weeabos), which are their main consumers who buy their merchandise. If they started making adult animes (welcome to the NHS, etc), they will never gather as large as a following as more appealing animes like steinsgate. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On September 22 2014 17:02 DarthPunk wrote: I have only watched two mecha anime, Accel World and Eureka Seven. Both were pretty good. I only started watching anime in May though so i'm a noobie. Both are pretty good as mecha anime go, though not the very top of the heap. Accel World's VR premise is ok but not nearly as well done as some other anime do it, and Eureka Seven has a lot of "because plot" going on, which isn't to say it's awful or anything. Eureka Seven is very entertaining. They're both well above average. With mecha anime it's exceedingly hard to find good anime so even well above average is excellent. BTW I consider most mecha anime to be "sell toys to children" anime, even the decent ones, because that's really what they're all about. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On September 22 2014 17:08 HaruRH wrote: I would beg to differ. I think we need to differenciate anime types properly first. There are those anime like vanguard, beyblade etc. That arr oobviouly meant to sell toys to children. However, there are also anime like gundam 00, madoka or clannad, which may seem like something kids watch, but you don't really want kids near those shows. What i feel is that these themes appeal to most of their viewerbase (read: otakus and weeabos), which are their main consumers who buy their merchandise. If they started making adult animes (welcome to the NHS, etc), they will never gather as large as a following as more appealing animes like steinsgate. Only watched Steins Gate and Clannad out of all those you mentioned so I have trouble forming a point of reference for your argument. Anyone Watched Mirai Nikki? That is about High Schoolers but is CERTAINLY not for kids. | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On September 22 2014 16:50 Blazinghand wrote: Anime are about kids because a lot of anime is aimed at kids. A general assumption of modern artists and cartoon studios is that kids only want to see shows about kids (like making new seasons of Teen Titans but not Superfriends). Probably the worst offender of this sort are Mecha anime (anime about large robots fighting) which often exist for the explicit purpose of selling toys to small children. The main character is always a middle schooler or high schooler, and he always has the most powerful mecha by a massive margin (no dramatic tension in fights), and he's often not even a soldier-in-training or cadet, he's just a regular schmuck who gets a robot. As he effortlessly defeats his opponents, he learns about the power of friendship or unleashes a terrible secret or you know whatever cliched plot. Also, his robot gets at least one major upgrade per season, or has multiple sets of armor it can wear, so that the toymakers can sell even more toys. Also every robot is designed to be as aesthetically pleasing as possible and not at all like a real robot would be, because why not. Those are money milking shows lol. You will literally never see anyone remembering how good those shows were. For example, the better mecha animes would be evangelion, RaXephon, gundam series (they have alternate series for kids and adults, like gundam 00 was for adults whereas gundam age is for kids) while the money milking mecha animes would be crap like.... i don't even remember them. | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On September 22 2014 17:11 DarthPunk wrote: Only watched Steins Gate and Clannad out of all those you mentioned so I have trouble forming a point of reference for your argument. Would you let your child watch clannad or beyblade? | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On September 22 2014 17:11 DarthPunk wrote: Only watched Steins Gate and Clannad out of all those you mentioned so I have trouble forming a point of reference for your argument. Anyone Watched Mirai Nikki? That is about High Schoolers but is CERTAINLY not for kids. Yup. Or elfen lied. It is about high schoolers but... no. Also school days. Not recommended for anyone below 16. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On September 22 2014 17:13 HaruRH wrote: Would you let your child watch clannad or beyblade? I think Clannad would be fine because you could only understand why it is super depressing if you are reasonably aware enough to emotionally deal with it. That's just my point of view though. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On September 22 2014 17:12 HaruRH wrote: Those are money milking shows lol. You will literally never see anyone remembering how good those shows were. For example, the better mecha animes would be evangelion, RaXephon, gundam series (they have alternate series for kids and adults, like gundam 00 was for adults whereas gundam age is for kids) while the money milking mecha animes would be crap like.... i don't even remember them. You are correct. That does not make me incorrect. Our viewpoints are not mutually incompatible. In fact, I think we explicitly agree that these shows are awful, and that there are also good shows. I would also note that Gundam had good and bad mixed in there. Gundam was noteworthy because it included very bland and utilitarian mechs for one side of the conflict, which was pretty excellent. There are plenty of Gundam shows that regardless of their literary quality (be they awful, like Gundam SEED, or hilarious/good like G Gundam), were pretty much created to sell toys. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On September 22 2014 17:17 Blazinghand wrote: You are correct. That does not make me incorrect. Our viewpoints are not mutually incompatible. In fact, I think we explicitly agree that these shows are awful, and that there are also good shows. I would also note that Gundam had good and bad mixed in there. Gundam was noteworthy because it included very bland and utilitarian mechs for one side of the conflict, which was pretty excellent. There are plenty of Gundam shows that regardless of their literary quality (be they awful, like Gundam SEED, or hilarious/good like G Gundam), were pretty much created to sell toys. I think its a perspective thing here lol. I have watched so many animes, i have made a clear distinction between children shows and animes aimed at older audiences. I will never watch kid shows. Calling gundam bland made my fanboy heart hurt lol. Like i said, gundam's main audiences were definitely not children, because 1) their model kits are VERY expensive 2) their model kits are not easy to piece together. i would say it is aimed for teenagers and above, regardless of their intention to sell toys or not. I am an offender since i have many gundam model kits, but yea. I don't see kids with gundam model kits. | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On September 22 2014 17:22 DarthPunk wrote: One of you two should make a TL mafia Anime thread. You can recommend all sorts of tasty anime for me to discover. http://myanimelist.net/animelist/HaruHaruRH Go wild. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
Hahahaha and I thought I had watched a lot at 15 days worth. | ||
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