• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:29
CET 02:29
KST 10:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
2026 KongFu Cup Announcement3BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled11Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains15Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series18
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Terran AddOns placement
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 KongFu Cup Announcement [GSL CK] Team Maru vs. Team herO StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 ASL21 General Discussion Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1757 users

Devil's Riddle Mafia - Page 13

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 Next All
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 02:30 GMT
#1685
On September 29 2014 11:30 Grackaroni wrote:
I think I know whats going on here


What is that?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 02:33 GMT
#1688
I might sign up for another game and request town. Rape all the mafia and die night one. Seems like a Plan.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 02:35 GMT
#1689
On September 29 2014 11:33 Grackaroni wrote:
nah nvm. I think the setup was just imbalanced

[image loading]
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 03:40 GMT
#1726
God fucking damn it.

##unvote
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 03:43 GMT
#1728
##unvote: 24 hour day

Fucking plays mang.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 10:03 GMT
#1752
On September 29 2014 17:12 abuse wrote:
I was sleeping. Because that's what people do on sunday nights when they have to go to work on monday.

Also - Guys what the hell.
Where on earth did you get the idea that 3P wins with town?
"Survive till the end" means you win when you are the last one standing.
This is how it has always been with 3P. Why on earth are you taking DP's word for it(winning with town), when he himself is the 3P?
If Oats is the shotgunner, then right now we can safely assume that DP is the arsonist(already mentioned that Defender is not possible in this setup, and if he were the poisoner, someone would have died tonight).
Why on earth would an arsonist win with town, when his whole role is based on dousing as many people in gasoline as possible and lighting them up in the endgame? What does that role even have the need to be in the game, if they win in the endgame with town, if they did it would be a town role, not a 3P.

As for Scum, with DP claiming 3P, that leaves MM1 as scum. I will stay with my previous post about him, which he really has not addressed in any way either.

The "play" with saying he tracked oats, basically just revealed the shotgunner to everyone. It was was a town move if done by town, but was also a scum move if done by scum, because it revealed a town power role to them by forcing Oats to claim.
What would Oats do if he was not a shotgunner but just a vanilla, and could not provide proof that he killed kush?
Oats would be lynched, that's what.
Why on earth would you do this?


Survive to the end. When the game ends I win if I survive. If it was anything else it would be: You win when you have eliminated all other players.

But it's not. It is survive to the end. So stfu with your fear mongering idiot.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 10:05 GMT
#1753
And if that was not the case and I did not believe that to be 100% true I would not have claimed when I thought I was about to WIN WITH THE TOWN.

Jesus christ you are dumb or mafia.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 11:50 GMT
#1755
On September 29 2014 20:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yes but you also win with mafia dp. A point you conveniently failed to mention

Yep. But I don't REQUIRE town to lose like mafia do.

Also town is incredibly INCREDIBLY far ahead so that isn't really a realistic scenario.

Town lynches last scum we all win and go home.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 12:26 GMT
#1758
On September 29 2014 21:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2014 20:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 29 2014 20:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yes but you also win with mafia dp. A point you conveniently failed to mention

Yep. But I don't REQUIRE town to lose like mafia do.

Also town is incredibly INCREDIBLY far ahead so that isn't really a realistic scenario.

Town lynches last scum we all win and go home.

Im just saying you are the last person scum kills. Which makes you dangerous.


How does it make me dangerous exactly?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 13:29 GMT
#1775
On September 29 2014 22:17 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2014 20:51 HaruRH wrote:
3P wins when the game ends and he survives. He can win with both town and mafia.


Well that sucks.

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2014 19:03 DarthPunk wrote:
Survive to the end. When the game ends I win if I survive. If it was anything else it would be: You win when you have eliminated all other players.

But it's not. It is survive to the end. So stfu with your fear mongering idiot.


I'd watch what I say, considering you did not get a single read correct during this game and you chose to aid town in an already town biased setup. And you are supposed to be good. What a joke.
Also, survive till the end - in all games I played, 3P wins when he is the last one standing - which is the end of the game, if a 3P role is present.




lol. I was playing to my win condition by helping town when they were ahead but not being so productive enough to be shot.

Not sure why that makes you so mad.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 13:31 GMT
#1777
ALSO abuse was doused day one. So, If I ever ignited, town would insta win.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 13:32 GMT
#1778
On September 29 2014 22:30 Promethelax wrote:
DP: I had fun with uou. It was nice. About time we weren't against each other.


I was bored and barely read the thread.

Third party sucks balls.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 13:36 GMT
#1781
On September 29 2014 22:32 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2014 22:29 DarthPunk wrote:
lol. I was playing to my win condition by helping town when they were ahead but not being so productive enough to be shot.

Not sure why that makes you so mad.


Cause you're bm and arrogant as fk, and I don't like bm and arrogance.You are also not as good as you think you are. No good player would flat out ignore a person's posts in a game. Especially if the person is scum.
That and I'm just frustrated and confused, because I never expected a KP 3P role to be on town's side and able to win with town.
My whole game depended on you killing town. Which you didn't do, so there is nothing I can do anymore really, especially if Vayne really does turn out to be Werewolf, and I do not have the luxury of trying to find it out.


I didn't ignore you. I doused you day one. I just didn't respond in the thread because it in no way helped me win the game or put me in a better position to win.

I think you are getting confused about good town play and good play in general. If I am third party, I am not going to try and rape all the scum day one or really do too much of anything. Why? Because my win condition REQUIRES me to not get shot by scum.

Your winning required me to play my given role INCORRECTLY. So don't try and logically justify your butthurt when I play the role correctly.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 14:08 GMT
#1789
I think the game would be better with unknown pairings.

Losing a second scum 50% of the time is not balanced for mafia when they are a team of three. ESPECIALLY with all the KP floating around.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 14:16 GMT
#1791
On September 29 2014 23:11 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2014 23:08 DarthPunk wrote:
I think the game would be better with unknown pairings.

Losing a second scum 50% of the time is not balanced for mafia when they are a team of three. ESPECIALLY with all the KP floating around.



Yes. That was why the pairings of 1town/1mafia was made known, so that it can act as a coverup for mafia. VE/Cr just played it pretty badly in my opinion. Especially with how CR gave up because he rolled mafia.


Yes but 1 mafia/ 1 mafia is guaranteed correct?

So, no matter what, as soon as town lynches/kills a mafia there is a 50% chance they lose a second mafia for free.

There is no universe in which that is balanced for scum.

The whole point of playing scum is to reduce the connections, be as hard to find as possible. It is a battle of attrition with the town. But that battle goes to shit when you lose 2 scum for the price of one 50% of the time.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 14:25 GMT
#1793
On September 29 2014 23:18 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm sorry, but most of the game was figured out because CR fake claimed 3rd party.

And about bad hosting, if Prome is angry because of what happened day2, ok. If he is angry for anything else, I don't get it.


Jesus Christ. Do people really not understand game balance? Really?

If so then please use cookie cutter setups.

Honestly.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 14:27 GMT
#1795
I mean EVEN when you DO lynch the non paired mafia, You know the other mafia are paired. So you can eliminate every pairing that contains third party, a flipped townie, a Town Power role.

Which makes the game......


.....Wait for it.....


Really really imbalanced.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 14:28 GMT
#1796
On September 29 2014 23:25 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2014 23:16 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 29 2014 23:11 HaruRH wrote:
On September 29 2014 23:08 DarthPunk wrote:
I think the game would be better with unknown pairings.

Losing a second scum 50% of the time is not balanced for mafia when they are a team of three. ESPECIALLY with all the KP floating around.



Yes. That was why the pairings of 1town/1mafia was made known, so that it can act as a coverup for mafia. VE/Cr just played it pretty badly in my opinion. Especially with how CR gave up because he rolled mafia.


Yes but 1 mafia/ 1 mafia is guaranteed correct?

So, no matter what, as soon as town lynches/kills a mafia there is a 50% chance they lose a second mafia for free.

There is no universe in which that is balanced for scum.

The whole point of playing scum is to reduce the connections, be as hard to find as possible. It is a battle of attrition with the town. But that battle goes to shit when you lose 2 scum for the price of one 50% of the time.



If you think about it, Cr could probably have survived if he did not concede.


No YOU think about your game critically for two seconds please.

There is no way in HELL this game was balanced for scum.

I think Town wins 95% of the time. Without question.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 14:59 GMT
#1798
On September 29 2014 23:47 yamato77 wrote:
DP did you actually believe VE was town?


Nah I was 50/50.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 30 2014 02:47 GMT
#1859
On September 30 2014 06:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Thx for the good time hosts. Next time I expect dinner and a movie first though.


haha :D
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 31m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft487
Nina 98
SpeCial 72
Ketroc 65
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 10261
Dota 2
canceldota70
League of Legends
JimRising 494
Counter-Strike
taco 383
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox722
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor238
Other Games
summit1g12130
ViBE134
PiLiPiLi6
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2430
ComeBackTV 118
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 36
• davetesta15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 17
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21417
League of Legends
• Doublelift5032
• Scarra1515
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
8h 31m
RSL Revival
8h 31m
ByuN vs SHIN
Maru vs Krystianer
WardiTV Team League
10h 31m
Patches Events
15h 31m
BSL
18h 31m
GSL
1d 6h
Wardi Open
1d 10h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 15h
OSC
1d 22h
WardiTV Team League
2 days
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-13
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.