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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 02:30 GMT
#1685
On September 29 2014 11:30 Grackaroni wrote:
I think I know whats going on here


What is that?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 02:33 GMT
#1688
I might sign up for another game and request town. Rape all the mafia and die night one. Seems like a Plan.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 02:35 GMT
#1689
On September 29 2014 11:33 Grackaroni wrote:
nah nvm. I think the setup was just imbalanced

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"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 03:40 GMT
#1726
God fucking damn it.

##unvote
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 03:43 GMT
#1728
##unvote: 24 hour day

Fucking plays mang.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 10:03 GMT
#1752
On September 29 2014 17:12 abuse wrote:
I was sleeping. Because that's what people do on sunday nights when they have to go to work on monday.

Also - Guys what the hell.
Where on earth did you get the idea that 3P wins with town?
"Survive till the end" means you win when you are the last one standing.
This is how it has always been with 3P. Why on earth are you taking DP's word for it(winning with town), when he himself is the 3P?
If Oats is the shotgunner, then right now we can safely assume that DP is the arsonist(already mentioned that Defender is not possible in this setup, and if he were the poisoner, someone would have died tonight).
Why on earth would an arsonist win with town, when his whole role is based on dousing as many people in gasoline as possible and lighting them up in the endgame? What does that role even have the need to be in the game, if they win in the endgame with town, if they did it would be a town role, not a 3P.

As for Scum, with DP claiming 3P, that leaves MM1 as scum. I will stay with my previous post about him, which he really has not addressed in any way either.

The "play" with saying he tracked oats, basically just revealed the shotgunner to everyone. It was was a town move if done by town, but was also a scum move if done by scum, because it revealed a town power role to them by forcing Oats to claim.
What would Oats do if he was not a shotgunner but just a vanilla, and could not provide proof that he killed kush?
Oats would be lynched, that's what.
Why on earth would you do this?


Survive to the end. When the game ends I win if I survive. If it was anything else it would be: You win when you have eliminated all other players.

But it's not. It is survive to the end. So stfu with your fear mongering idiot.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 10:05 GMT
#1753
And if that was not the case and I did not believe that to be 100% true I would not have claimed when I thought I was about to WIN WITH THE TOWN.

Jesus christ you are dumb or mafia.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 11:50 GMT
#1755
On September 29 2014 20:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yes but you also win with mafia dp. A point you conveniently failed to mention

Yep. But I don't REQUIRE town to lose like mafia do.

Also town is incredibly INCREDIBLY far ahead so that isn't really a realistic scenario.

Town lynches last scum we all win and go home.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 12:26 GMT
#1758
On September 29 2014 21:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2014 20:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 29 2014 20:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yes but you also win with mafia dp. A point you conveniently failed to mention

Yep. But I don't REQUIRE town to lose like mafia do.

Also town is incredibly INCREDIBLY far ahead so that isn't really a realistic scenario.

Town lynches last scum we all win and go home.

Im just saying you are the last person scum kills. Which makes you dangerous.


How does it make me dangerous exactly?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 13:29 GMT
#1775
On September 29 2014 22:17 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2014 20:51 HaruRH wrote:
3P wins when the game ends and he survives. He can win with both town and mafia.


Well that sucks.

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2014 19:03 DarthPunk wrote:
Survive to the end. When the game ends I win if I survive. If it was anything else it would be: You win when you have eliminated all other players.

But it's not. It is survive to the end. So stfu with your fear mongering idiot.


I'd watch what I say, considering you did not get a single read correct during this game and you chose to aid town in an already town biased setup. And you are supposed to be good. What a joke.
Also, survive till the end - in all games I played, 3P wins when he is the last one standing - which is the end of the game, if a 3P role is present.




lol. I was playing to my win condition by helping town when they were ahead but not being so productive enough to be shot.

Not sure why that makes you so mad.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 13:31 GMT
#1777
ALSO abuse was doused day one. So, If I ever ignited, town would insta win.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 13:32 GMT
#1778
On September 29 2014 22:30 Promethelax wrote:
DP: I had fun with uou. It was nice. About time we weren't against each other.


I was bored and barely read the thread.

Third party sucks balls.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 13:36 GMT
#1781
On September 29 2014 22:32 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2014 22:29 DarthPunk wrote:
lol. I was playing to my win condition by helping town when they were ahead but not being so productive enough to be shot.

Not sure why that makes you so mad.


Cause you're bm and arrogant as fk, and I don't like bm and arrogance.You are also not as good as you think you are. No good player would flat out ignore a person's posts in a game. Especially if the person is scum.
That and I'm just frustrated and confused, because I never expected a KP 3P role to be on town's side and able to win with town.
My whole game depended on you killing town. Which you didn't do, so there is nothing I can do anymore really, especially if Vayne really does turn out to be Werewolf, and I do not have the luxury of trying to find it out.


I didn't ignore you. I doused you day one. I just didn't respond in the thread because it in no way helped me win the game or put me in a better position to win.

I think you are getting confused about good town play and good play in general. If I am third party, I am not going to try and rape all the scum day one or really do too much of anything. Why? Because my win condition REQUIRES me to not get shot by scum.

Your winning required me to play my given role INCORRECTLY. So don't try and logically justify your butthurt when I play the role correctly.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 14:08 GMT
#1789
I think the game would be better with unknown pairings.

Losing a second scum 50% of the time is not balanced for mafia when they are a team of three. ESPECIALLY with all the KP floating around.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 14:16 GMT
#1791
On September 29 2014 23:11 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2014 23:08 DarthPunk wrote:
I think the game would be better with unknown pairings.

Losing a second scum 50% of the time is not balanced for mafia when they are a team of three. ESPECIALLY with all the KP floating around.



Yes. That was why the pairings of 1town/1mafia was made known, so that it can act as a coverup for mafia. VE/Cr just played it pretty badly in my opinion. Especially with how CR gave up because he rolled mafia.


Yes but 1 mafia/ 1 mafia is guaranteed correct?

So, no matter what, as soon as town lynches/kills a mafia there is a 50% chance they lose a second mafia for free.

There is no universe in which that is balanced for scum.

The whole point of playing scum is to reduce the connections, be as hard to find as possible. It is a battle of attrition with the town. But that battle goes to shit when you lose 2 scum for the price of one 50% of the time.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 14:25 GMT
#1793
On September 29 2014 23:18 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm sorry, but most of the game was figured out because CR fake claimed 3rd party.

And about bad hosting, if Prome is angry because of what happened day2, ok. If he is angry for anything else, I don't get it.


Jesus Christ. Do people really not understand game balance? Really?

If so then please use cookie cutter setups.

Honestly.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 14:27 GMT
#1795
I mean EVEN when you DO lynch the non paired mafia, You know the other mafia are paired. So you can eliminate every pairing that contains third party, a flipped townie, a Town Power role.

Which makes the game......


.....Wait for it.....


Really really imbalanced.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 14:28 GMT
#1796
On September 29 2014 23:25 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2014 23:16 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 29 2014 23:11 HaruRH wrote:
On September 29 2014 23:08 DarthPunk wrote:
I think the game would be better with unknown pairings.

Losing a second scum 50% of the time is not balanced for mafia when they are a team of three. ESPECIALLY with all the KP floating around.



Yes. That was why the pairings of 1town/1mafia was made known, so that it can act as a coverup for mafia. VE/Cr just played it pretty badly in my opinion. Especially with how CR gave up because he rolled mafia.


Yes but 1 mafia/ 1 mafia is guaranteed correct?

So, no matter what, as soon as town lynches/kills a mafia there is a 50% chance they lose a second mafia for free.

There is no universe in which that is balanced for scum.

The whole point of playing scum is to reduce the connections, be as hard to find as possible. It is a battle of attrition with the town. But that battle goes to shit when you lose 2 scum for the price of one 50% of the time.



If you think about it, Cr could probably have survived if he did not concede.


No YOU think about your game critically for two seconds please.

There is no way in HELL this game was balanced for scum.

I think Town wins 95% of the time. Without question.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 29 2014 14:59 GMT
#1798
On September 29 2014 23:47 yamato77 wrote:
DP did you actually believe VE was town?


Nah I was 50/50.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 30 2014 02:47 GMT
#1859
On September 30 2014 06:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Thx for the good time hosts. Next time I expect dinner and a movie first though.


haha :D
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