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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 08 2014 00:58 GMT
#244
Oh you did post. New page made me miss it.

Here I was trying to get you to slip and you give me analysis like that. Let me have a quick look myself before I sheep you but that lie is quite glaring.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 08 2014 01:09 GMT
#247
On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 03:29 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 02:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:As of now loafey is still highest on my scum list but im not sure if he is just a newbie/bad player or scum. Im gonna see more of his posts before I decide to vote for him or not. For now, i will settle with this.]


Mind sharing who else is on your scum list?


Right now the list is just loafey, but this is because other people haven't been as active. As ff said, this game is moving too slow, and that is because people haven't been active at all. We still have players that haven't said anything beyond their first day post, which was not that much.

@Fecalfeast: I think the reason people have gone after loafrey so hard is because there really isn't that much else to go on. His play has been the most scummy like, and that is probably why everyone is going after him. Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share.

Why does this not make you point your FoS (thanks super I was pretending to know what FoS meant) at someone who hopped on the loaf-wagon?

"His play is the most scummy-like"
As implied by him being the only name on your list. What makes his play scummy like to you? Might I guess that your answer will be 'What abuse said but with less conviction?'

On October 08 2014 06:18 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 08 2014 05:06 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:44 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:36 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:19 Rad wrote:
On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share.


Isn't that pretty much the only job that town has? To find things that are scummy and pursue them. Any reason you're asking others to do that for you?

You say no one else seems scummy to you, are you suggesting that it's probably loafery or the lurkers that are scum?

Why are you taking the easy route here?


It wasn't meant as others doing it for me, rather that others should contribute. Right now there are like 4 people that has only like 3 posts on this thread. I can't really find mafia if i don't have much to go on. I did as much as i could with the info i had at the time.

No, im saying that i haven't found anything scummy with the people that have posted other than loafrey. That dosen't mean all mafia are either him or the lurkers, just that i have not found anything suspicious about anyone else.

Im not taking any easy route, I have done as much as I can with the given information.


You found out that your arguments were already used by others to push loaf. Do you like the people who pushed on loaf for the same reason?


Yeah, abuse is probably the one that had most of my arguments already written. I do however not share all of abuses opinions and do believe that he is pushing for loaf too hard. I would for instance not vote on him this early, as it is definetly too early to prove that he is a scum. Better to simply do a FoS, as it will give an indicitation of what you think of the person, but not have all dirt throwback that often comes with voting on someone.

What it looks to me like super was really asking is what you think of abuse based on abuse's reads. You say he is pushing a little too hard, why?


Mostly it was because of the vote. But i also think that some of his arguments are a little more hardline than mine. I share most of abuses opinions on loaf, but i think the biggest thing we differ on is the whole loaf asking about roles thing. I really think that loaf was merely confused and asking about the rules when he said we all should claim roles, and I believe him when he says it was like that on another game.


Your reasoning for differing from abuse's opinion is that you believe he misinterpreted the rules. Nobody is using that fact anymore and the basis of abuse's argument is more on how loaf words his posts, not how he read the OP.

I'm still a little gun-shy with voting people like this but you have some things to answer for, zen...
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 08 2014 01:10 GMT
#248
On October 08 2014 10:03 Breshke wrote:
ff i'm actually not lumping both of you together in my mind if one of you turns out to be scum I highly doubt the other is as your play has been too similar to begin the day both opposing the push on loaf and not really pushing on anyone else. Having played with eachother before maybe scum ff thinks playing similar to town superbia will make him read you as town and vice versa. This isnt a 100% thing though just something i thought i'd share.

I'll buy that for now. If only I knew what town superbia was like, I would even buy your idea of me trying to emulate him but alas, I know him only as scum.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 08 2014 01:24 GMT
#254
On October 08 2014 10:16 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 10:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 03:29 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 02:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:As of now loafey is still highest on my scum list but im not sure if he is just a newbie/bad player or scum. Im gonna see more of his posts before I decide to vote for him or not. For now, i will settle with this.]


Mind sharing who else is on your scum list?


Right now the list is just loafey, but this is because other people haven't been as active. As ff said, this game is moving too slow, and that is because people haven't been active at all. We still have players that haven't said anything beyond their first day post, which was not that much.

@Fecalfeast: I think the reason people have gone after loafrey so hard is because there really isn't that much else to go on. His play has been the most scummy like, and that is probably why everyone is going after him. Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share.

Why does this not make you point your FoS (thanks super I was pretending to know what FoS meant) at someone who hopped on the loaf-wagon?

"His play is the most scummy-like"
As implied by him being the only name on your list. What makes his play scummy like to you? Might I guess that your answer will be 'What abuse said but with less conviction?'

On October 08 2014 06:18 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 08 2014 05:06 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:44 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:36 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:19 Rad wrote:
On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share.


Isn't that pretty much the only job that town has? To find things that are scummy and pursue them. Any reason you're asking others to do that for you?

You say no one else seems scummy to you, are you suggesting that it's probably loafery or the lurkers that are scum?

Why are you taking the easy route here?


It wasn't meant as others doing it for me, rather that others should contribute. Right now there are like 4 people that has only like 3 posts on this thread. I can't really find mafia if i don't have much to go on. I did as much as i could with the info i had at the time.

No, im saying that i haven't found anything scummy with the people that have posted other than loafrey. That dosen't mean all mafia are either him or the lurkers, just that i have not found anything suspicious about anyone else.

Im not taking any easy route, I have done as much as I can with the given information.


You found out that your arguments were already used by others to push loaf. Do you like the people who pushed on loaf for the same reason?


Yeah, abuse is probably the one that had most of my arguments already written. I do however not share all of abuses opinions and do believe that he is pushing for loaf too hard. I would for instance not vote on him this early, as it is definetly too early to prove that he is a scum. Better to simply do a FoS, as it will give an indicitation of what you think of the person, but not have all dirt throwback that often comes with voting on someone.

What it looks to me like super was really asking is what you think of abuse based on abuse's reads. You say he is pushing a little too hard, why?


Mostly it was because of the vote. But i also think that some of his arguments are a little more hardline than mine. I share most of abuses opinions on loaf, but i think the biggest thing we differ on is the whole loaf asking about roles thing. I really think that loaf was merely confused and asking about the rules when he said we all should claim roles, and I believe him when he says it was like that on another game.


Your reasoning for differing from abuse's opinion is that you believe he misinterpreted the rules. Nobody is using that fact anymore and the basis of abuse's argument is more on how loaf words his posts, not how he read the OP.

I'm still a little gun-shy with voting people like this but you have some things to answer for, zen...


Just vote, you can always retract your vote.

inb4 you're just leading me on all over again.

##vote: The_zen_man
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 08 2014 01:26 GMT
#255
On October 08 2014 10:14 Superbia wrote:
Have you read the post? Because it's not "he's following a band wagon".

But yeah, I was reading people sort of being iffy on me, so I decided to really quickly thoroughly analyze everything that has happened in the game and then really quickly make a thorough post on it. Good timing though, because you almost called me scum! Oh wait, that was sarcasm.

Please stop being a donkey and vote for zen or give a good reason why you're not voting.

What is with this post? Of all the things, you're call me a donkey for helping your case but being indecisive on a vote...
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 08 2014 01:28 GMT
#258
On October 08 2014 10:27 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 10:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 08 2014 10:14 Superbia wrote:
Have you read the post? Because it's not "he's following a band wagon".

But yeah, I was reading people sort of being iffy on me, so I decided to really quickly thoroughly analyze everything that has happened in the game and then really quickly make a thorough post on it. Good timing though, because you almost called me scum! Oh wait, that was sarcasm.

Please stop being a donkey and vote for zen or give a good reason why you're not voting.

What is with this post? Of all the things, you're call me a donkey for helping your case but being indecisive on a vote...


It was directed at loaf.

Wow that makes more sense. I was a little butt-upset
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 08 2014 02:03 GMT
#267
On October 08 2014 10:49 Rad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 09:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
I never meant to make it sound like loaf is town, though I did use the word town. What I should have said, in hindsight, is 'I no longer read loafery scum based on his explanation of his misunderstanding.'


What?

Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 10:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 07 2014 10:18 loafery wrote:
Yup everyone had a role and all we had to do was reveal our roles and i think it ended on day 2.

Exactly why this guy is town. He wanted a free win.


That's more than just using the word town. That's straight up claiming he IS town. How are you so sure of his intentions?

##FoS Fecalfeast

Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 09:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
Rad, anything else to add to the discussion of lurkers? I see you're thinking the same as I am regarding the low activity players but you've spent most of your posts discussing what other people are saying. Anything from your point of view to add? You mentioned superbia disliking the wagon, what does that tell when compared to the way he is playing? Anything?


It tells me that he recognizes the wagon on loaf is sketchy as hell. I agree with his assessment.

Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 10:16 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 10:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 03:29 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 02:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:As of now loafey is still highest on my scum list but im not sure if he is just a newbie/bad player or scum. Im gonna see more of his posts before I decide to vote for him or not. For now, i will settle with this.]


Mind sharing who else is on your scum list?


Right now the list is just loafey, but this is because other people haven't been as active. As ff said, this game is moving too slow, and that is because people haven't been active at all. We still have players that haven't said anything beyond their first day post, which was not that much.

@Fecalfeast: I think the reason people have gone after loafrey so hard is because there really isn't that much else to go on. His play has been the most scummy like, and that is probably why everyone is going after him. Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share.

Why does this not make you point your FoS (thanks super I was pretending to know what FoS meant) at someone who hopped on the loaf-wagon?

"His play is the most scummy-like"
As implied by him being the only name on your list. What makes his play scummy like to you? Might I guess that your answer will be 'What abuse said but with less conviction?'

On October 08 2014 06:18 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 08 2014 05:06 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:44 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:36 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:19 Rad wrote:
On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share.


Isn't that pretty much the only job that town has? To find things that are scummy and pursue them. Any reason you're asking others to do that for you?

You say no one else seems scummy to you, are you suggesting that it's probably loafery or the lurkers that are scum?

Why are you taking the easy route here?


It wasn't meant as others doing it for me, rather that others should contribute. Right now there are like 4 people that has only like 3 posts on this thread. I can't really find mafia if i don't have much to go on. I did as much as i could with the info i had at the time.

No, im saying that i haven't found anything scummy with the people that have posted other than loafrey. That dosen't mean all mafia are either him or the lurkers, just that i have not found anything suspicious about anyone else.

Im not taking any easy route, I have done as much as I can with the given information.


You found out that your arguments were already used by others to push loaf. Do you like the people who pushed on loaf for the same reason?


Yeah, abuse is probably the one that had most of my arguments already written. I do however not share all of abuses opinions and do believe that he is pushing for loaf too hard. I would for instance not vote on him this early, as it is definetly too early to prove that he is a scum. Better to simply do a FoS, as it will give an indicitation of what you think of the person, but not have all dirt throwback that often comes with voting on someone.

What it looks to me like super was really asking is what you think of abuse based on abuse's reads. You say he is pushing a little too hard, why?


Mostly it was because of the vote. But i also think that some of his arguments are a little more hardline than mine. I share most of abuses opinions on loaf, but i think the biggest thing we differ on is the whole loaf asking about roles thing. I really think that loaf was merely confused and asking about the rules when he said we all should claim roles, and I believe him when he says it was like that on another game.


Your reasoning for differing from abuse's opinion is that you believe he misinterpreted the rules. Nobody is using that fact anymore and the basis of abuse's argument is more on how loaf words his posts, not how he read the OP.

I'm still a little gun-shy with voting people like this but you have some things to answer for, zen...


Just vote, you can always retract your vote.


Why are you so hell bent on getting the votes for zen at this stage? Why is your vote not enough while we wait for zen to reply?

Nice find but again, I mistyped. I meant towny not definitive town. Should I do a full explanation of my thoughts and reasoning about loaf to clear this up? To summarize, I read him null and attempted to signify that by calling him town(y) after I saw him as scummy.

When there is a person who straight-up lied to town and got called out for it, why are you ignoring him and targeting one of the only people who tried to stop the witch-hunt on loaf? I'm confused by your motivations for calling me out.

You then go on to question super for trying to get people to lynch a liar. Believe me, I am reluctant to pressure with votes but even I can't deny that zen looks trashy right now.

Maybe you should post your thoughts on a few people. I'm not one for list posts but even a brief write-up on zen, loaf and myself would be great I hardly know where you stand right now.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 08 2014 02:07 GMT
#271
On October 08 2014 11:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 10:49 Rad wrote:
On October 08 2014 09:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
I never meant to make it sound like loaf is town, though I did use the word town. What I should have said, in hindsight, is 'I no longer read loafery scum based on his explanation of his misunderstanding.'


What?

On October 07 2014 10:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 07 2014 10:18 loafery wrote:
Yup everyone had a role and all we had to do was reveal our roles and i think it ended on day 2.

Exactly why this guy is town. He wanted a free win.


That's more than just using the word town. That's straight up claiming he IS town. How are you so sure of his intentions?

##FoS Fecalfeast

On October 08 2014 09:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
Rad, anything else to add to the discussion of lurkers? I see you're thinking the same as I am regarding the low activity players but you've spent most of your posts discussing what other people are saying. Anything from your point of view to add? You mentioned superbia disliking the wagon, what does that tell when compared to the way he is playing? Anything?


It tells me that he recognizes the wagon on loaf is sketchy as hell. I agree with his assessment.

On October 08 2014 10:16 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 10:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 03:29 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 02:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:As of now loafey is still highest on my scum list but im not sure if he is just a newbie/bad player or scum. Im gonna see more of his posts before I decide to vote for him or not. For now, i will settle with this.]


Mind sharing who else is on your scum list?


Right now the list is just loafey, but this is because other people haven't been as active. As ff said, this game is moving too slow, and that is because people haven't been active at all. We still have players that haven't said anything beyond their first day post, which was not that much.

@Fecalfeast: I think the reason people have gone after loafrey so hard is because there really isn't that much else to go on. His play has been the most scummy like, and that is probably why everyone is going after him. Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share.

Why does this not make you point your FoS (thanks super I was pretending to know what FoS meant) at someone who hopped on the loaf-wagon?

"His play is the most scummy-like"
As implied by him being the only name on your list. What makes his play scummy like to you? Might I guess that your answer will be 'What abuse said but with less conviction?'

On October 08 2014 06:18 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 08 2014 05:06 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:44 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:36 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:19 Rad wrote:
[quote]

Isn't that pretty much the only job that town has? To find things that are scummy and pursue them. Any reason you're asking others to do that for you?

You say no one else seems scummy to you, are you suggesting that it's probably loafery or the lurkers that are scum?

Why are you taking the easy route here?


It wasn't meant as others doing it for me, rather that others should contribute. Right now there are like 4 people that has only like 3 posts on this thread. I can't really find mafia if i don't have much to go on. I did as much as i could with the info i had at the time.

No, im saying that i haven't found anything scummy with the people that have posted other than loafrey. That dosen't mean all mafia are either him or the lurkers, just that i have not found anything suspicious about anyone else.

Im not taking any easy route, I have done as much as I can with the given information.


You found out that your arguments were already used by others to push loaf. Do you like the people who pushed on loaf for the same reason?


Yeah, abuse is probably the one that had most of my arguments already written. I do however not share all of abuses opinions and do believe that he is pushing for loaf too hard. I would for instance not vote on him this early, as it is definetly too early to prove that he is a scum. Better to simply do a FoS, as it will give an indicitation of what you think of the person, but not have all dirt throwback that often comes with voting on someone.

What it looks to me like super was really asking is what you think of abuse based on abuse's reads. You say he is pushing a little too hard, why?


Mostly it was because of the vote. But i also think that some of his arguments are a little more hardline than mine. I share most of abuses opinions on loaf, but i think the biggest thing we differ on is the whole loaf asking about roles thing. I really think that loaf was merely confused and asking about the rules when he said we all should claim roles, and I believe him when he says it was like that on another game.


Your reasoning for differing from abuse's opinion is that you believe he misinterpreted the rules. Nobody is using that fact anymore and the basis of abuse's argument is more on how loaf words his posts, not how he read the OP.

I'm still a little gun-shy with voting people like this but you have some things to answer for, zen...


Just vote, you can always retract your vote.


Why are you so hell bent on getting the votes for zen at this stage? Why is your vote not enough while we wait for zen to reply?

Nice find but again, I mistyped. I meant towny not definitive town. Should I do a full explanation of my thoughts and reasoning about loaf to clear this up? To summarize, I read him null and attempted to signify that by calling him town(y) after I saw him as scummy.

When there is a person who straight-up lied to town and got called out for it, why are you ignoring him and targeting one of the only people who tried to stop the witch-hunt on loaf? I'm confused by your motivations for calling me out.

You then go on to question super for trying to get people to lynch a liar. Believe me, I am reluctant to pressure with votes but even I can't deny that zen looks trashy right now.

Maybe you should post your thoughts on a few people. I'm not one for list posts but even a brief write-up on zen, loaf and myself would be great I hardly know where you stand right now.

EBWOP: "... lied to THE town..." before anyone thinks I'm calling someone confirmed town...
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 08 2014 02:11 GMT
#272
On October 08 2014 11:06 loafery wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 11:01 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 10:59 loafery wrote:
On October 08 2014 10:52 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 10:41 loafery wrote:
On October 08 2014 10:27 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 10:24 loafery wrote:
On October 08 2014 10:14 Superbia wrote:
Have you read the post? Because it's not "he's following a band wagon".

But yeah, I was reading people sort of being iffy on me, so I decided to really quickly thoroughly analyze everything that has happened in the game and then really quickly make a thorough post on it. Good timing though, because you almost called me scum! Oh wait, that was sarcasm.

Please stop being a donkey and vote for zen or give a good reason why you're not voting.


still a whole day left and i want to hear his side of the story because you still look more scummy than zen atm.


So did you read the entire post or not? Were you like "oh I'm not reading it because he's scum". Or did you read it and conclude I was scum? How does this work? If you think my case is good then stop reading me as scum. If you think my case is bad please tell me why it's bad.


your reasons seem arbitrary i don't see why it matters whether he lies/slipsup upon reading abuses' posts or the thread. You don't have any other reason than that. It's like you're desperately trying to find any fault in zen to take the heat off of yourself.


Why is he lying? Why is he rushing to make a push? Do you feel that the general mindset behind his post came from a townie perspective. Again, please stop being vague about this. I've explained the scum-rationale behind it. If you have any additional questions please feel free to ask, but if you don't agree with it you need to be specific. Do you feel like I'm lying about it coming from a scummy perspective? Are all the points I brought up not relevant and scummy?

Also want to point out that there is relatively little heat on me, and I don't get pressured into anything as either alignment.


i beg to differ there has been several ppl calling you out for just staying in the background letting others do the work.

for the answers you're looking for we have to wait for zen to reply.

Don't you think mafia would just say that they agree with abuse or just stay quiet rather than just make a massive post.


Mafia generally doesn't hide like that. If you're not proactive you will get called out.


yes you weren't proactive before anyone called you out. Then you make this claim on zen and immediately vote him as scum while not even waiting for his response. A bit too quick to rush into thing imo.

Mafia hides. Gets called out. Makes claim with an arbitrary post on reasons I can't agree with. So scummy.

I like your thought process and I like that you aren't afraid to express your thoughts but one person has a plain-as-day contradiction to answer for, and the other person pointed out the contradiction. Regardless of your feelings toward super, what do you think of his case against zen? If you think his case is flawed, explain that. If not, why do you think super is a bigger target than zen?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 08 2014 02:23 GMT
#275
While we wait for the return of the zen man, I would like to point out that there is a person with only a single post after his /in.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/466626-newbie-mini-mafia-lix?user=dusts

I would really like to see his(her) thoughts on the game. Hopefully more than a few hours before EoD.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 08 2014 02:26 GMT
#276
I'm here for 30 or so more minutes, then I wont be on until 06:00 GMT (+00:00)
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 08 2014 02:27 GMT
#277
On October 08 2014 11:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm here for 30 or so more minutes, then I wont be on until 06:00 GMT (+00:00)

That changes to a different timezone than the one in my profile but I'll be here at 10pm PST (-08:00)
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 08 2014 06:32 GMT
#291
On October 08 2014 15:23 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 15:15 Rad wrote:
Breshke, what are your thoughts about Fecalfeast? Are you satisfied with him parking his vote on zen?


I'm not actually sure like the interaction between superbia and ff about the vote on zen really seems off to me like superbia can just tell ff what to do. He has said he doesnt like to be lumped together with super and then votes along side him without explaining anything. He has posted a lot but has yet to give a scumread of his own and is voting on someone because someone who he has said he doesnt want to be paired with told him to. Looking back on this i think this is very scummy.

##Vote: Fecalfeast

See spoiler for breshke's definition of not explaining anything
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On October 08 2014 10:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 03:29 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 02:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:As of now loafey is still highest on my scum list but im not sure if he is just a newbie/bad player or scum. Im gonna see more of his posts before I decide to vote for him or not. For now, i will settle with this.]


Mind sharing who else is on your scum list?


Right now the list is just loafey, but this is because other people haven't been as active. As ff said, this game is moving too slow, and that is because people haven't been active at all. We still have players that haven't said anything beyond their first day post, which was not that much.

@Fecalfeast: I think the reason people have gone after loafrey so hard is because there really isn't that much else to go on. His play has been the most scummy like, and that is probably why everyone is going after him. Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share.

Why does this not make you point your FoS (thanks super I was pretending to know what FoS meant) at someone who hopped on the loaf-wagon?

"His play is the most scummy-like"
As implied by him being the only name on your list. What makes his play scummy like to you? Might I guess that your answer will be 'What abuse said but with less conviction?'

Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 06:18 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 08 2014 05:06 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:44 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:36 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:19 Rad wrote:
On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share.


Isn't that pretty much the only job that town has? To find things that are scummy and pursue them. Any reason you're asking others to do that for you?

You say no one else seems scummy to you, are you suggesting that it's probably loafery or the lurkers that are scum?

Why are you taking the easy route here?


It wasn't meant as others doing it for me, rather that others should contribute. Right now there are like 4 people that has only like 3 posts on this thread. I can't really find mafia if i don't have much to go on. I did as much as i could with the info i had at the time.

No, im saying that i haven't found anything scummy with the people that have posted other than loafrey. That dosen't mean all mafia are either him or the lurkers, just that i have not found anything suspicious about anyone else.

Im not taking any easy route, I have done as much as I can with the given information.


You found out that your arguments were already used by others to push loaf. Do you like the people who pushed on loaf for the same reason?


Yeah, abuse is probably the one that had most of my arguments already written. I do however not share all of abuses opinions and do believe that he is pushing for loaf too hard. I would for instance not vote on him this early, as it is definetly too early to prove that he is a scum. Better to simply do a FoS, as it will give an indicitation of what you think of the person, but not have all dirt throwback that often comes with voting on someone.

What it looks to me like super was really asking is what you think of abuse based on abuse's reads. You say he is pushing a little too hard, why?


Mostly it was because of the vote. But i also think that some of his arguments are a little more hardline than mine. I share most of abuses opinions on loaf, but i think the biggest thing we differ on is the whole loaf asking about roles thing. I really think that loaf was merely confused and asking about the rules when he said we all should claim roles, and I believe him when he says it was like that on another game.


Your reasoning for differing from abuse's opinion is that you believe he misinterpreted the rules. Nobody is using that fact anymore and the basis of abuse's argument is more on how loaf words his posts, not how he read the OP.

I'm still a little gun-shy with voting people like this but you have some things to answer for, zen...

I will be here before end of day and there is no difference, other than added pressure to make a post, between one vote and two votes this far before the deadline.


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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 08 2014 06:35 GMT
#292
You want to know the post that really made me vote him? It was by superbia, even.

On October 08 2014 10:16 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 10:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 03:29 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 02:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:As of now loafey is still highest on my scum list but im not sure if he is just a newbie/bad player or scum. Im gonna see more of his posts before I decide to vote for him or not. For now, i will settle with this.]


Mind sharing who else is on your scum list?


Right now the list is just loafey, but this is because other people haven't been as active. As ff said, this game is moving too slow, and that is because people haven't been active at all. We still have players that haven't said anything beyond their first day post, which was not that much.

@Fecalfeast: I think the reason people have gone after loafrey so hard is because there really isn't that much else to go on. His play has been the most scummy like, and that is probably why everyone is going after him. Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share.

Why does this not make you point your FoS (thanks super I was pretending to know what FoS meant) at someone who hopped on the loaf-wagon?

"His play is the most scummy-like"
As implied by him being the only name on your list. What makes his play scummy like to you? Might I guess that your answer will be 'What abuse said but with less conviction?'

On October 08 2014 06:18 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 08 2014 05:06 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:44 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:36 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:19 Rad wrote:
On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share.


Isn't that pretty much the only job that town has? To find things that are scummy and pursue them. Any reason you're asking others to do that for you?

You say no one else seems scummy to you, are you suggesting that it's probably loafery or the lurkers that are scum?

Why are you taking the easy route here?


It wasn't meant as others doing it for me, rather that others should contribute. Right now there are like 4 people that has only like 3 posts on this thread. I can't really find mafia if i don't have much to go on. I did as much as i could with the info i had at the time.

No, im saying that i haven't found anything scummy with the people that have posted other than loafrey. That dosen't mean all mafia are either him or the lurkers, just that i have not found anything suspicious about anyone else.

Im not taking any easy route, I have done as much as I can with the given information.


You found out that your arguments were already used by others to push loaf. Do you like the people who pushed on loaf for the same reason?


Yeah, abuse is probably the one that had most of my arguments already written. I do however not share all of abuses opinions and do believe that he is pushing for loaf too hard. I would for instance not vote on him this early, as it is definetly too early to prove that he is a scum. Better to simply do a FoS, as it will give an indicitation of what you think of the person, but not have all dirt throwback that often comes with voting on someone.

What it looks to me like super was really asking is what you think of abuse based on abuse's reads. You say he is pushing a little too hard, why?


Mostly it was because of the vote. But i also think that some of his arguments are a little more hardline than mine. I share most of abuses opinions on loaf, but i think the biggest thing we differ on is the whole loaf asking about roles thing. I really think that loaf was merely confused and asking about the rules when he said we all should claim roles, and I believe him when he says it was like that on another game.


Your reasoning for differing from abuse's opinion is that you believe he misinterpreted the rules. Nobody is using that fact anymore and the basis of abuse's argument is more on how loaf words his posts, not how he read the OP.

I'm still a little gun-shy with voting people like this but you have some things to answer for, zen...


Just vote, you can always retract your vote.

I am waiting for the man to post and you seriously come to the conclusion that I'm the best lynch target? Are you getting nervous or what?

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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 08 2014 06:55 GMT
#294
On October 08 2014 15:41 Rad wrote:
Fecal, what are your thoughts on dusts? What would you do if he came in last minute and voted with no reasoning?

I think he will have to at this point and I think he is lurking like a mofo. I don't like lurkers and I actually stated this before...

Who cares what I would do, why not worry about what is right now?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 08 2014 07:49 GMT
#303
On October 08 2014 16:27 abuse wrote:
EBWOP :
First off,
I like the push on Zen.
It is why I asked Superbia what he thought of Zen's (previously was written as "my post" ) post, since it was 100% saying what my post said.

You like the push on zen but you aren't voting for him? You voted loaf so quickly.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 08 2014 07:57 GMT
#304
On October 08 2014 16:06 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 15:28 Rad wrote:
Btw:


If you change your vote, please ##Unvote before posting another vote (can be done in the same post).


So are you saying you don't believe zen is scum now? Or you think fecal's trying to bus zen to gain town cred?


##Unvote

Vote:Fecalfeast

My vote on Zen was more for pressure and his dislike of non committal reads he has made. I feel that for the quantity of your reads you have provided a very little amount of information and you only voted for Zen after superbia made a case on him. It feels like you are just trying to cruise by.

Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 15:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
You want to know the post that really made me vote him? It was by superbia, even.

On October 08 2014 10:16 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 10:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 03:29 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 02:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:As of now loafey is still highest on my scum list but im not sure if he is just a newbie/bad player or scum. Im gonna see more of his posts before I decide to vote for him or not. For now, i will settle with this.]


Mind sharing who else is on your scum list?


Right now the list is just loafey, but this is because other people haven't been as active. As ff said, this game is moving too slow, and that is because people haven't been active at all. We still have players that haven't said anything beyond their first day post, which was not that much.

@Fecalfeast: I think the reason people have gone after loafrey so hard is because there really isn't that much else to go on. His play has been the most scummy like, and that is probably why everyone is going after him. Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share.

Why does this not make you point your FoS (thanks super I was pretending to know what FoS meant) at someone who hopped on the loaf-wagon?

"His play is the most scummy-like"
As implied by him being the only name on your list. What makes his play scummy like to you? Might I guess that your answer will be 'What abuse said but with less conviction?'

On October 08 2014 06:18 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 08 2014 05:06 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:44 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:36 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:19 Rad wrote:
[quote]

Isn't that pretty much the only job that town has? To find things that are scummy and pursue them. Any reason you're asking others to do that for you?

You say no one else seems scummy to you, are you suggesting that it's probably loafery or the lurkers that are scum?

Why are you taking the easy route here?


It wasn't meant as others doing it for me, rather that others should contribute. Right now there are like 4 people that has only like 3 posts on this thread. I can't really find mafia if i don't have much to go on. I did as much as i could with the info i had at the time.

No, im saying that i haven't found anything scummy with the people that have posted other than loafrey. That dosen't mean all mafia are either him or the lurkers, just that i have not found anything suspicious about anyone else.

Im not taking any easy route, I have done as much as I can with the given information.


You found out that your arguments were already used by others to push loaf. Do you like the people who pushed on loaf for the same reason?


Yeah, abuse is probably the one that had most of my arguments already written. I do however not share all of abuses opinions and do believe that he is pushing for loaf too hard. I would for instance not vote on him this early, as it is definetly too early to prove that he is a scum. Better to simply do a FoS, as it will give an indicitation of what you think of the person, but not have all dirt throwback that often comes with voting on someone.

What it looks to me like super was really asking is what you think of abuse based on abuse's reads. You say he is pushing a little too hard, why?


Mostly it was because of the vote. But i also think that some of his arguments are a little more hardline than mine. I share most of abuses opinions on loaf, but i think the biggest thing we differ on is the whole loaf asking about roles thing. I really think that loaf was merely confused and asking about the rules when he said we all should claim roles, and I believe him when he says it was like that on another game.


Your reasoning for differing from abuse's opinion is that you believe he misinterpreted the rules. Nobody is using that fact anymore and the basis of abuse's argument is more on how loaf words his posts, not how he read the OP.

I'm still a little gun-shy with voting people like this but you have some things to answer for, zen...


Just vote, you can always retract your vote.

I am waiting for the man to post and you seriously come to the conclusion that I'm the best lynch target? Are you getting nervous or what?



Nervous about what? Why would i be nervous? Why are you so worried about my vote like you quoted
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 10:16 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 10:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 03:29 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 02:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:As of now loafey is still highest on my scum list but im not sure if he is just a newbie/bad player or scum. Im gonna see more of his posts before I decide to vote for him or not. For now, i will settle with this.]


Mind sharing who else is on your scum list?


Right now the list is just loafey, but this is because other people haven't been as active. As ff said, this game is moving too slow, and that is because people haven't been active at all. We still have players that haven't said anything beyond their first day post, which was not that much.

@Fecalfeast: I think the reason people have gone after loafrey so hard is because there really isn't that much else to go on. His play has been the most scummy like, and that is probably why everyone is going after him. Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share.

Why does this not make you point your FoS (thanks super I was pretending to know what FoS meant) at someone who hopped on the loaf-wagon?

"His play is the most scummy-like"
As implied by him being the only name on your list. What makes his play scummy like to you? Might I guess that your answer will be 'What abuse said but with less conviction?'

On October 08 2014 06:18 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 08 2014 05:06 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:44 Superbia wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:36 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:19 Rad wrote:
On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share.


Isn't that pretty much the only job that town has? To find things that are scummy and pursue them. Any reason you're asking others to do that for you?

You say no one else seems scummy to you, are you suggesting that it's probably loafery or the lurkers that are scum?

Why are you taking the easy route here?


It wasn't meant as others doing it for me, rather that others should contribute. Right now there are like 4 people that has only like 3 posts on this thread. I can't really find mafia if i don't have much to go on. I did as much as i could with the info i had at the time.

No, im saying that i haven't found anything scummy with the people that have posted other than loafrey. That dosen't mean all mafia are either him or the lurkers, just that i have not found anything suspicious about anyone else.

Im not taking any easy route, I have done as much as I can with the given information.


You found out that your arguments were already used by others to push loaf. Do you like the people who pushed on loaf for the same reason?


Yeah, abuse is probably the one that had most of my arguments already written. I do however not share all of abuses opinions and do believe that he is pushing for loaf too hard. I would for instance not vote on him this early, as it is definetly too early to prove that he is a scum. Better to simply do a FoS, as it will give an indicitation of what you think of the person, but not have all dirt throwback that often comes with voting on someone.

What it looks to me like super was really asking is what you think of abuse based on abuse's reads. You say he is pushing a little too hard, why?


Mostly it was because of the vote. But i also think that some of his arguments are a little more hardline than mine. I share most of abuses opinions on loaf, but i think the biggest thing we differ on is the whole loaf asking about roles thing. I really think that loaf was merely confused and asking about the rules when he said we all should claim roles, and I believe him when he says it was like that on another game.


Your reasoning for differing from abuse's opinion is that you believe he misinterpreted the rules. Nobody is using that fact anymore and the basis of abuse's argument is more on how loaf words his posts, not how he read the OP.

I'm still a little gun-shy with voting people like this but you have some things to answer for, zen...


Just vote, you can always retract your vote.


Please take a look at the filters of some other people in this game before you say I'm trying to cruise by.

Cute tu-quoque though.
I like the part where my vote is the reason you are pushing me but my defense of my vote is thrown back at me for defending myself.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 08 2014 08:55 GMT
#305
I'm going to bed. I hope zen man gets back before deadline
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 08 2014 20:02 GMT
#360
Oh snap i slept in. Reading up then I'll post my thoughts.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 08 2014 20:22 GMT
#363
Zen man:scum, everyone has said it already, if someone wants a post specifically from me about zen i can do that. My vote stays put as of now. It is starting to worry me that nobody is vehemently against the wagon, though.

Dusts: *tumbleweed*

Rad:town, actively looking for more scum even while there's a wagon.

Super:null/town, the big instigator of the wagon. No counter wagons and a rock solid argument. Why null/town and not town? Weird gut feelings that i can't explain.

Abuse:null, while he pushed loafery and looked town because of it, it took him quite some time to unvote and consider the current wagon. Elvis!'s actions don't help him either.

Elvis:scum/null, i hope he posts more, currently he has no vote and was only voting on loaf because he had pressure

Breshke: scum, pretty similar story to zen-man, i think this is a really good person to look at after the flip, or even right now. I would but i have already screwed this post up many times. Thanks phone.

Everyone else: null or i don't remember your posts
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