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LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-25 04:57:48
August 25 2014 04:46 GMT
#2121
Counting of votes:

VayneAuthority (2): Hapahauli, turtlevine
KelsierSC (0): turtlevine

Not voting (8): VayneAuthority, WaveOfShadow, yamato77, Damdred, Xatalos, KelsierSC, Onegu, GlowingBear

Currently VayneAuthority is set to be lynched.
Deadline is Wednesday, Aug 27 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).


+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +

VOTE: turtlevine voted KelsierSC (post)
VOTE: Hapahauli voted VayneAuthority (post)
VOTE: turtlevine unvoted KelsierSC (post)
VOTE: turtlevine voted VayneAuthority (post)
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 25 2014 05:09 GMT
#2122
On August 25 2014 12:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
yamato fucking don't go anywhere and talk to me about this

here now, catching up
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 25 2014 05:25 GMT
#2123
I looked through damdred and I felt like he was townish for a lot of the same reasons you noticed. His aggressiveness is something worth noting as a town tell, as his scum game was far more meek.

Also RE: Hapa

Him being SK would make sense as who else would kill rayn?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 25 2014 05:42 GMT
#2124
like seriously

if I'm mafia and Hapa is town I would leave rayn alive for years
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 25 2014 07:11 GMT
#2125
This is why I didn't post d1. I say stuff and no one is here to respond. Whatever.

Tomorrow will be a spotty day for me activity wise. I will have time before deadline to catch up hopefully. Later nerds.
Writer@WriterYamato
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 10:14 GMT
#2126
Yeah I got the same feeling from the NK's. jat just makes sense no matter who did it, but it feels like Hapa would be the most likely culprit for killing rayn (especially since he said that rayn is "mentally disturbed town" just before the deadline although earlier in the night he said that rayn would be the "clear lynch" - then his first reaction after the kills was "nice I was right about rayn", gathering that credibility even though he didn't even explain why rayn was suddenly town...). Hapa being Mafia doesn't make any sense but I feel there's a decent chance of him being SK. At least the highest I can think of right now. It also helps that his scumcases are generally a bit... nitpicky in the sense that they focus on something relatively trivial unlike his excellent towncase on me. And his pushes have been pretty... lacking with confidence / effort.

I'm a bit torn what to do about it though. Him not making sense as scum reduces his chances of flipping non-town greatly. On the other hand, killing the SK would reduce KP and probably give more time to figure out the game. The problem is: is he really that clearly SK? I don't think so. At least he seemed to care about the D1 lynch which points to town. And his entrance push of rayn wasn't something that I think SK Hapa would first think of (gathering a lot of attention and causing rayn to OMGUS). I'd say just let it be for today and worry about it later if he somehow remains alive.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 10:24 GMT
#2127
VA's claim is interesting. I think it's possible (especially with the GF role PM mentioning that a Watcher probably exists), but still it's a pretty weird claim. Why claim now, why roleblock instead of Cop checking? Neither of those make much sense from town perspective. On the other hand, the scum motivations are clear: possibly reducing pressure without giving (almost) any information to town, and claiming a roleblock just reduces information given compared to claiming a check. So I'd say this claim isn't really aimed at helping town in any way, just to survive, which points more to scum/SK.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 10:39 GMT
#2128
I'm honestly just bad at reading Damdred so I don't exactly feel comfortable lynching him today. Onegu doesn't even have many posts to work with. So I think lynching either of them is closer to a 50/50 than I feel comfortable with right now. Well, it worked out with Robik, so it's not totally out of the question.

However, I feel like VA has a better chance of flipping scum/SK. His playstyle has been serious and "focused" in some way, but overall all his posts have been forgettable and without impact. Even so he has exaggerated his own helpfulness on multiple occasions (like when he had to "step in when the thread was a mess"). His attitude during D1 was really disinterested towards finding out scum and more focused on blending in and survival. He even says it directly...

On August 24 2014 06:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:23 Damdred wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:19 Damdred wrote:
On August 23 2014 07:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote: Damdred

he drops off anytime anything game defining happens, knocking it in


On August 24 2014 02:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Since when do you care about the lynch day1, vayne?


Do I have to troll every game? not really. I always try when im needed and this game is a mess.

Ok, who do we lynch?


well right now my vote is on damdred I think he is a solid lynch given his activity level and what he has said no far (nothing original) I'm willing to switch to yamato or hapa though.


These are your two points on me. You agreed with me on GB, you said you disagreed with the wave stuff (did you disagree with my conclussion or that it was original content?) and wrote the rest of my things off as fluff which I disagree with.

Both of your points even if you still think i'm fluffy are disproved. Am I really worth your vote right now? Yamato is the easy vote so no I won't push him right now i'm not 100% that this is his scum game even if its hard not to vote for him right now, some of his stuff shows actual thoughts behind it even if he hasn't posted a case on wave like he promised yet...

Either way I disagree where your vote is and your reasons for voting


so where do you propose we go from here then? I'm not really sure what you are trying to accomplish day 1 thats a good place to start.


Obviously the only place to go is scum hunt, i've already put forth that I think Xatalos is pretty scummy. And I don't like Onegu case on Rayn and his promise to read the thread and contribute has him not really doing anything at all.

And honestly i'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish day one vayne


Ideally day one my goal is to simply survive and start lining up conversations and how they hold up with actions. I dont necessarily always need/want to kill scum day 1 as it isnt a pressing matter yet. Its better to gather a ton of info here.

As an aside why does easy vote = not scum to you?


There's the matter of that post being "too scummy to be scum". Why would scum even post something like that? It just feels stupid. Regardless it's a good example of his overall lack of interest in scumhunting while he happily tries to make serious / "contributive" posts and to exaggerate his own contributions. His playstyle is simply full of scum motivations (blending in, survival) and devoid of town motivations (figuring out the game, lynching correctly).

##Vote VayneAuthority
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 11:01 GMT
#2129
On August 24 2014 11:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 11:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hapa you read me as scum?


Totally.

Are you too drunk to remember the bullshit you've posted for the last 24 hours? It is not out of the realm for town-Rayn to call me scum on Day 1. It is out of the realm for town-Rayn for literally every one of your reads to be based on OMGUS, then to come in the thread and act like you haven't read the D1 lynch.



On August 25 2014 09:30 Hapahauli wrote:
Everyone else is either confirmed town (GB/Turtle), likely town from the lynch (Yamato, JAT) or mentally unstable and probably town (Rayn). So here's where I stand on these players.


So Hapa, what exactly happened between these two posts....? You never explained how you went certain scum -> probably town on rayn while nothing really changed about rayn himself.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 11:08 GMT
#2130
On August 25 2014 09:44 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 09:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Hapa, why is rayn town?


His behavior is consistent with him going off the deep end as town. He's not pushign objectives. He's just flailing. And that's pretty townie.


Oh there's this post that I missed. Still it's a pretty sudden change from how certain Hapa was of rayn being scum earlier in the night.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 11:19 GMT
#2131
Whatever, lynching Hapa seems like a pretty bad idea in any case. And we already have a pretty likely scum in VA to be lynched.

(as a sidenote: claiming JOAT is suspicious also in the sense that it's a rare role and unlikely to be counterclaimed)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-25 12:45:19
August 25 2014 11:53 GMT
#2132
Counting of votes:

VayneAuthority (4): WaveofShadow, Hapahauli, turtlevine, Xatalos
KelsierSC (0): turtlevine

Not voting (6): VayneAuthority, yamato77, Damdred, KelsierSC, Onegu, GlowingBear

Currently VayneAuthority is set to be lynched.
Deadline is Wednesday, Aug 27 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).


+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +

VOTE: WaveofShadow voted VayneAuthority (post)
VOTE: turtlevine voted KelsierSC (post)
VOTE: Hapahauli voted VayneAuthority (post)
VOTE: turtlevine unvoted KelsierSC (post)
VOTE: turtlevine voted VayneAuthority (post)
VOTE: Xatalos voted VayneAuthority (post)
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 25 2014 12:31 GMT
#2133
Why does my vote not count?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 12:37 GMT
#2134
Mistakes were made.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
August 25 2014 12:46 GMT
#2135
On August 25 2014 21:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why does my vote not count?


There was a minor typo in your name in the OP from which I copied the player list. Count should be fixed now.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 25 2014 12:57 GMT
#2136
Thanks LM.
This could be a very boring day.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 25 2014 12:58 GMT
#2137
This will be. Unfortunately, I'm playing this game like shit because I'm busy or I'm wasted
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 25 2014 12:59 GMT
#2138
WoS did you did my brief analysis of the night kill?
I'm adorable.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 13:06 GMT
#2139
I wonder if everyone will just flock to VA. It wouldn't be a huge surprise though in the sense that there's Mafia + SK and if VA is scum, it would be difficult for the remaining scum to change things alone - and if he's SK nobody would even care.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 25 2014 13:11 GMT
#2140
I'm not at all convinced that VA is lying.

He is exactly the type of player to play this way.
Writer@WriterYamato
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