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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 25 2014 10:26 WaveofShadow wrote: So you've got 2 scum and an SK in there? Yeh I think so. I will evaluate as the day progresses but I won't vote outside of those 3 For now I see everyone else as town. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
im a jack of all trades, have the option to cop check, roleblock, or watch some one. Can only use 2 of the three. Last night I RB'ed damdred so he cant be the SK, but could be the mafia that didnt turn in the kill. Will probably use my cop check tomorrow on some one else but I dont think it will matter | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On August 25 2014 10:06 WaveofShadow wrote: Good, then maybe I can actually devote some time to Damdred. Let's join forces for now, hmm? ##Vote: VayneAuthority Turtle/GB I'm interested to hear your thoughts on the NK and Rayn JAT was obviously town. Mafia shot him. Rayn was shot by SK. Mafia was scared of a possible medic, that's why neither me or turtle got killed. But I think that if my reads were on spot I wod have being killed. It means that Kelsen is probably not mafia. But I believe Kelsen could be SK. It fits his entrance and it explains SK kill (it would make me read him as town because I made two posts saying them both are scum, associating them. A way to draw attention off him. He was aware of my post). | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On August 25 2014 10:40 VayneAuthority wrote: ill get this out of the way and claim then since it will make the game considerably easier imo. im a jack of all trades, have the option to cop check, roleblock, or watch some one. Can only use 2 of the three. Last night I RB'ed damdred so he cant be the SK, but could be the mafia that didnt turn in the kill. Will probably use my cop check tomorrow on some one else but I dont think it will matter This claim stinks | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On August 25 2014 10:40 VayneAuthority wrote: ill get this out of the way and claim then since it will make the game considerably easier imo. im a jack of all trades, have the option to cop check, roleblock, or watch some one. Can only use 2 of the three. Last night I RB'ed damdred so he cant be the SK, but could be the mafia that didnt turn in the kill. Will probably use my cop check tomorrow on some one else but I dont think it will matter Why on earth wouldn't you use your cop check first? | ||
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turtlevine
74 Posts
##vote VayneAuthority | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On August 25 2014 11:02 Hapahauli wrote: Why on earth wouldn't you use your cop check first? I wanted to block a shot since I was pretty convinced damdred is mafia, which is more valuable then simply finding out some one is mafia. I dont see why you would ask that seems obvious to me | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On August 25 2014 11:02 Hapahauli wrote: Why on earth wouldn't you use your cop check first? EXACTLY! And it's easier to say you've roleblocked someone than to say you've got a cop check while mafia. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On August 25 2014 11:04 VayneAuthority wrote: I wanted to block a shot since I was pretty convinced damdred is mafia, which is more valuable then simply finding out some one is mafia. I dont see why you would ask that seems obvious to me I really wish you would of used your cop check first it would of cleared myself made the lynch easier and cleared you also | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On August 25 2014 11:07 VayneAuthority wrote: you guys really think using cop was the best one available wtf? only reason i even considered it is because godfather is dead. otherwise i would use watcher Watcher would have been great too. You literally picked the most useless night action out of your toolkit. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On August 25 2014 10:40 VayneAuthority wrote: ill get this out of the way and claim then since it will make the game considerably easier imo. im a jack of all trades, have the option to cop check, roleblock, or watch some one. Can only use 2 of the three. Last night I RB'ed damdred so he cant be the SK, but could be the mafia that didnt turn in the kill. Will probably use my cop check tomorrow on some one else but I dont think it will matter Nope. No fucking way. Purely from a role standpoint this doesn't make any sense. JoaT and JK AND confirmed (to each other) masons? Unless this isn't a normal game (which I'm fairly sure it is?) it's simply not possible. Not to mention claiming now makes absolutely no fucking sense. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On August 25 2014 09:37 Hapahauli wrote: Damdred This one's shorter. Firstly, his vote yesterday was by far the worst in the thread: He's voting Xatalos because he thinks Yamato is town, and Xatalos scummy but Damdred "could be misreading him." Yeah no. He also posted a lot in the Night 1 discussion and literally all of it was irrelevant. Start at the bottom of Page 6 of his filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465098-guilty-mini-mafia?user=Damdred&page=6 ...and work your way to page 7. He's asking questions to Xatalos, commenting/replying to random things... but that's it. No attempt to analyze vote counts, no attempt to make sense of the lynch, and really no attempt to do anything but a very awkward tunnel on Xata. 1)I think the initial vote is bad reasoning weak in this post indeed hurried and awkward and weak in this post. My follow up posts and some of my posts before that pointed out a lot of scummy things about Xatalos that led me to the vote and I clarified my position in subsequent posts. Also yea I shouldn't of put could be misreading him, but its just simple fact I have a history of totally misreading Xata, but his posts are scummy and I still stand by that. 2) I'm confused about this point it does not really seem like much is going on here. I had several conversations in the thread to get a better feel for what people were thinking EOD, I did it to Kel and I did it to Xata, almost nobody else was prevalent in the thread. And... I really didn't see much of any conversations going on about vote count analyzing besides the obvious, the lynch has to be within the people not voteing on robik, which is obvious and nothing else was really discussed because its open and shut. What is their to make sense of exactly, we got mafia. I tried to make sense of what people were posting during the EOD and why votes ended up where they did but when people aren't their talking. In conclusion, for being one of the strongest scum reads that Hapa has this case is really flimsy and honestly bad. Theres no real analyzing of posts that I made just his vote was bad and look at this filter its so irrelevant. Nothing i've actually done was brought up (besides voteing on xata and having an awkward tunnel that I said I would back off of soon as Xata answered my last question or statement which I will). Also theres plenty of things in my filter to go for but why isn't it here spent a couple of posts on wave actually analyzing but no actual analyse on me. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Ok, whatever. WHAT ABOUT THE 876758759 OTHER TIMES Shitty cases on purpose Hapa. That's about the only thing that's coming to mind when I'm reading this stuff. Who writes shitty cases on purpose? You know what? Fuck it. Not holding out any longer. Hapa is probably SK. Wanted Rayn to talk to me about it since he was the one who originally noticed Hapa not being himself but this explanation fits perfectly. He's playing town-like but NOT his town self. Good enough to fool most people, especially around lynch time because he can lynch scum for free. Probably wouldn't bother mentioning this except since we didn't mislynch D1, so SK still can't afford to kill scum right now and is going to have to target one of us tomorrow night, making it essentially an extra KP against us. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On August 25 2014 11:12 Hapahauli wrote: Watcher would have been great too. You literally picked the most useless night action out of your toolkit. neither of those actually block NKs, RB does, agree to disagree. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
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Damdred
15669 Posts
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On August 25 2014 11:43 Damdred wrote: Well if you blocked me and the sk didn't act its pretty apparent i'm red, but can't tell on mafia Couldn't understand you. Two people died tonight | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On August 25 2014 11:53 GlowingBear wrote: Couldn't understand you. Two people died tonight It was an add on to my above post, If he blocked me and there was no sk shot (hypothetical situation) then it would be decently clear and a good lynch on me. If he blocked me and the two kills still went through (hypothetical) then nothing was gained from the block just that I was not the sk. However, If he would of Cop Checked me instead the thread would know for sure if I was red or green due to the information being complete rather than partial | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On August 25 2014 11:56 Damdred wrote: It was an add on to my above post, If he blocked me and there was no sk shot (hypothetical situation) then it would be decently clear and a good lynch on me. If he blocked me and the two kills still went through (hypothetical) then nothing was gained from the block just that I was not the sk. However, If he would of Cop Checked me instead the thread would know for sure if I was red or green due to the information being complete rather than partial Got it. You're questioning his claim, then. It stinks. | ||
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