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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 11 2014 03:19 GMT
#3481
And as for my case that nobody read (though I think Cav called me town simply for posting it or some shit):
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463513-world-heavyweight-championship-mafia-iii?page=153#3056

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2014 03:21 GMT
#3482
On August 11 2014 12:18 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 12:16 Holyflare wrote:
On August 11 2014 12:10 Eden1892 wrote:
The problem is that I'm sure when you're town your arguments actually make sense.

Why in the fuck did you think Poofter and gobble were a scumteam?


Is it so hard for you to wrap your brain around? Both have been super scummy all game. Both have scum read each other with no faltering since day one. Both of them had the most useless reasons to scum read each other. Looked a lot like a bus scenario.

I've asked this before and you didn't answer it as far as I can tell, so I'll ask again. What scum motivation exists for two mafia to hardcore bus each other from halfway through d1? The problem isn't that it's possible but that it's pretty unlikely. It doesn't make sense for mafia to do that here.


I answered it and you ignored it. Look how much you defended them for it. If they are both mafia then it's free pass to end game. Believe it or not I've played a lot of mafia and know
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 11 2014 03:21 GMT
#3483
HF what is this post?
On August 11 2014 12:07 Holyflare wrote:
Eden i know you're mafia btw

Honestly if Eden is mafia he must be pulling some serious HF-before everyone-knew-he-was-real-good-at-scum-level shit. I'm not sure what you're basing this on. In fact, I'm pretty sure you're lying.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2014 03:22 GMT
#3484
On August 11 2014 12:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
HF what is this post?
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 12:07 Holyflare wrote:
Eden i know you're mafia btw

Honestly if Eden is mafia he must be pulling some serious HF-before everyone-knew-he-was-real-good-at-scum-level shit. I'm not sure what you're basing this on. In fact, I'm pretty sure you're lying.


I have suspicions
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 11 2014 03:23 GMT
#3485
Again, I'm still voting you and you don't seem to give a shit.

And I'm blatantly not even reading the thread right now.
Retired.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 11 2014 03:24 GMT
#3486
I truly don't believe you.
When you have suspicions of me you're constantly voicing them.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 11 2014 03:25 GMT
#3487
On August 11 2014 12:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Again, I'm still voting you and you don't seem to give a shit.

And I'm blatantly not even reading the thread right now.

Who are you even talking to Cav?
And it's night.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2014 03:25 GMT
#3488
On August 11 2014 12:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
I truly don't believe you.
When you have suspicions of me you're constantly voicing them.



Shhhhh stop ruining things
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 11 2014 03:25 GMT
#3489
Holyflare.

I said I was just gonna vote him because fuck it #yolo but he doesn't seem to care.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2014 03:26 GMT
#3490
So what?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 11 2014 03:27 GMT
#3491
On August 11 2014 12:25 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 12:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
I truly don't believe you.
When you have suspicions of me you're constantly voicing them.



Shhhhh stop ruining things

Oh fuck you you KNOW I hate this shit.
Fine I'm leaving for now.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2014 03:27 GMT
#3492
Don't leave i actually stayed up to talk to you because i think you are town now
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 03:27 GMT
#3493
On August 11 2014 12:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 12:07 Holyflare wrote:
Eden i know you're mafia btw

wtf is this?

Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 12:08 Eden1892 wrote:
My case on Holyflare has more than association reads... in fact the strongest point has nothing to do with associations at all. Hell, where do they rely on associations? I'm pretty sure my case is built on the confidence-accuracy discrepancy (best way to summarize it) and nightkill analysis.

Cases on JAT and goodkarma are in fact primarily associations which isn't great until the dominoes start falling, but that's okay because Holyflare is the first domino and my case on him isn't built on them.

Link your case on Holyflare again? Or I'll pull it up in your filter. Might help reinforce my read and/or persuade others. Anything we can get!

And this is flat out untrue---a great deal of the NK analysis you did is based on association. Talking about who kush wanted dead---association. The strongest point isn't particularly strong, that's all. 'He's still alive' isn't reason enough for me to want to lynch him solely based on that.

If you want to see some research and effort put into cases, go look up some of the stuff Foolishness has done. He may not always be right (lol in fact in my experience he's wrong quite a bit) but the cases he writes up bring out a lot of in-thread evidence as well as meta as well as potential association. Multi-faceted and brilliant at times, and often very convincing. This one, not so much.

Show me how Haru is all of a sudden super town exactly. Some of his posts today I admit had townie vibes to them, but what HF said about him is completely true. He showed up, promised a whole bunch of shit and then did DICK ALL. What is towny about that? Does it look like he actually cared about the lynch from what he posted?


I know we're supposed to be re-evaluating everything right now but this HF v Eden shit is wigging me out for some reason.

We're clearly operating under different definitions of "association." I've never heard "dead townie wanted X dead" referenced as an "association" argument. I also don't think it's terrible, and I've already explained why I don't think so.

The strongest point is the confidence-accuracy discrepancy as I've already said. Please comment on that? Your summary of my argument as "he's alive" is really inaccurate and I'm honestly not sure how you got that out of it.

RE: Haru I'll go reread his day today and see what I think, I remember the tone of his posts was that confident, sorta-pissed Haru that I was expecting to see. There's also the argument (that I think I made in the big post? but I don't remember now LOL I'll have to check) that Haru got scumread by too many people d1 to be mafia. With the way the thread was going and how many viable targets were available it's just hard to believe that we managed to consolidate onto a mafia. Although tbh if anything that also points to Holyflare if Haru is mafia, since he led a last-minute lynch on not-Haru. I think Haru's town so I didn't mention that earlier, but Haru/Holyflare scumteam also works from what I can recall (will have to reread and see though).
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2014 03:28 GMT
#3494
After the vanilla shenanigans
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 11 2014 03:28 GMT
#3495
On August 11 2014 12:26 Holyflare wrote:
So what?


Because if you're town then we probably lose.

Did you forget how lylo works or something?
Retired.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 11 2014 03:28 GMT
#3496
On August 11 2014 12:27 Holyflare wrote:
Don't leave i actually stayed up to talk to you because i think you are town now

Then I don't wnt any of this smoke and mirrors horseshit. I'm actually pretty surprised at myself that I caught on earlier.
If you want to talk to me then talk.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2014 03:30 GMT
#3497
On August 11 2014 12:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 12:26 Holyflare wrote:
So what?


Because if you're town then we probably lose.

Did you forget how lylo works or something?


If you think you telling me you're going to vote me in lylo has any effect on how i play whatsoever i think you're highly mistaken. I'm just gonna start to post cases tomorrow and it'll be cool
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2014 03:31 GMT
#3498
On August 11 2014 12:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 12:27 Holyflare wrote:
Don't leave i actually stayed up to talk to you because i think you are town now

Then I don't wnt any of this smoke and mirrors horseshit. I'm actually pretty surprised at myself that I caught on earlier.
If you want to talk to me then talk.


I'm in a dilemma where i have too many town reads because i think gobble might be town based on crazy amounts of afk stacked lynching
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 11 2014 03:31 GMT
#3499
I reserve the right to not read anything that you're saying and kill you anyway.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 11 2014 03:32 GMT
#3500
I literally don't care if you want to throw the game cav
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