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* Cohosts are HaruRH and The_Templar. If you are a blue, please ensure you send night actions to both them and me. Scum, as usual, will be able to post their night actions in their scum QT.
The rules for this game are drawn from my model OP here: (link). Read them.
Supplemental Rules
In addition to the rules outlined in the Model OP, there are a couple changes for this game.
1. Night Length: Nights will last 24 hours, and you may speak at night. However, you cannot speak between the hammer at the night post. Once someone has been hammered, do not post until the flip. 2. Maximum Day Length: If a day lasts for 72 hours without a lynch, it automatically ends in a no-lynch. 3. Activity: It is required you make at least 1 post per night+day cycle, and ALSO meet the arbitrary activity requirement that exists entirely in my mind. You are not required to vote if the day ends in a hammer, but you are required to vote if the day ends due to 72 hours passing. I'm not going to explain what I constitute inactivity-- I'll know it when I see it. You will probably be warned before being modkilled.
Credits: Thanks to anyone who has ever hosted a game. This list grows ever longer. Special thanks to myself for going over this setup with me, and to myself, on the balance approval team, for testing this setup for balance. Also thanks to Probulous since I stole this OP from him and modified it to my nefarious needs. Also also thanks to Hapahauli for helping me with the setup.
If you have not read all the rules, go and do so. I might give you candy.
I am open to questions any time. If something doesn't make sense, please ask.
This is a semi-closed opening setup. There is no setup information in the OP until the start of the game. At the start of D1, you will be provided with a list of possible roles, including role pms. To get an idea of what this game will be like, I plan for it to be pretty normal. You won't be surprised at what roles are available if you've played normal minis that I host. Typical town power roles include Doctor, Named VT, Veteran, Parity Cop, and Cop, and 1-shot Vigilante. Typical scum power roles include Roleblocker and Godfather.
Only roles in this post are available in the game. Just because a role is available, does not mean it will exist.
The Concentric Zones of Thought This game will follow a 24-hour night/72-hour IML day cycle. The day lasts until a majority is reached, or 72 hours pass, whichever happens first. If 72 hours passes without a majority, the day ends in a no-lynch. If someone is hammered, night begins immediately after the flip.
Vrinimi Org
Hapless Cremwmember - You man the Out of Band II and work for Vrinimi Org. You have no powers.
Pham Nuwen (1-shot vigilante) - You are an artificial human with the power to use Godshatter to active the Countermeasure. This Countermeasure will massively expand the Slow Zone and hopefully trap the Blight without access to AI-tier physics. Once per game, at night, you can submit an NK on someone. You can't shoot Night 1. You can't shoot yourself. If your target is protected, you do not get the bullet back. If you are roleblocked, you DO get the bullet back. Find and destroy the Bad Endings.
Ravna Bergsndot (Parity Cop) - You are an employee of the wealthy Vrinimi Organisation. You're been assigned to trace the sleeper ship that fled High Lab and retrieve the Countermeasure, using the Out of Band II, a hybrid ramscoop / warp drive ship. Each night you target someone, and you're told if the alignment of your target is the same or different as your previous target. Your N1 check doesn't return anything, but is necessary for your N2 check to work. You can't check yourself. Find and destroy the Bad Endings.
Woodcarver (Cop) - You are a pack of Tines, and when within communication range of each other, your combined brainpower produces emergent effects: intelligence and consciousness. You, Pilgrim, and Scriber mean to oppose Steel using the technology given to you by Johanna. Each night you may target someone, and you're told their alignment. You do not get to make a check during N1. Find and destroy the Bad Endings.
Town Win Condition - The town wins when there are no mafia left in the game or nothing can prevent that from happening.
The Blight
Aprahanti Battlecruiser (Goon) - With the Blight emerging, your race finally has the excuse it has been waiting for to attack the Humans. You will use the chaos of the Blight to reestablish their waning hegemony. Despite their attractive, delicate appearance and initial demeanor, the Aprahanti are revealed to be an extremely fearsome and vicious species. Your crew is no exception. You are scum. You have no special powers.
Corrupted Skroderider (Godfather) - In ancient times, your people lacked short term memory and mobility. Someone set you on the Skrodes, which provided short term memory and the ability to change location at will. Now you are wiley traders throughout the galaxy. Lately, however, since the most recent firmware update, some Skroderiders have been acting strangely... You are scum. You return Green to checks.
Mafia Win condition - The mafia wins when there are no remaining townies or nothing can prevent that from happening. Each night, mafia may kill one player.
On June 28 2014 04:24 The_Templar wrote: /cohost? Am I allowed to try to cohost without much experience? I have to start somewhere right?
Cohosts of any experience level are welcome. Welcome aboard!
On June 28 2014 04:25 HaruRH wrote: BH if youre worried Templar don't have much experience, I will /cohost with him because 2 inexperienced ones makes one experienced one.
Walmart Is selling 70 page notebooks for 25 cents. I just bought 16 for this game (notes).Now with tax, the total came to $4.24. I expect you all to put forth similar money into this game. If you are confused use a currency converter.
On June 28 2014 17:15 Snickers wrote: Walmart Is selling 70 page notebooks for 25 cents. I just bought 16 for this game (notes).Now with tax, the total came to $4.24. I expect you all to put forth similar money into this game. If you are confused use a currency converter.
Why do you need 1120 pages of notes for this game? It's a 9 player mini mafia…
Days passed. For the evil that was growing in the new machines, each hour was longer than all the time before. Now the newborn was less than an hour from its great flowering, its safe spread across interstellar spaces.
The local humans could be dispensed with soon. Even now they were an inconvenience, though an amusing one. Some of them actually thought to escape. For days they had been packing their children away into coldsleep and putting them aboard the freighter. "Preparations for departure," was how they described the move in their planner programs. For days, they had been refitting the frigate—behind a a mask of transparent lies. Some of the humans understood that what they had wakened could be the end of them, that it might be the end of their Straumli Realm. There was precedent for such disasters, stories of races that had played with fire and had burned for it.
None of them guessed the truth. None of them guessed the honor that had fallen upon them, that they had changed the future of a thousand million star systems.
Welcome to Day 1. With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. If no majority is reached in 72 hours, by Tuesday, Jul 01 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) the day will end in a no-lynch.
Live ticker: remain.
Remember, the voting thread is located here: (link). Only votes made in that thread count.
The OP has been updated with a list of possible roles this game. You may begin.
On June 28 2014 18:20 Chairman Ray wrote: In this format, does the day instantly end once a majority vote has been established?
Yes.
On June 28 2014 04:13 Blazinghand wrote: The Concentric Zones of Thought This game will follow a 24-hour night/72-hour IML day cycle. The day lasts until a majority is reached, or 72 hours pass, whichever happens first. If 72 hours passes without a majority, the day ends in a no-lynch. If someone is hammered, night begins immediately after the flip.
instant majority is pretty uncommon here, not going to find many who have played it much. I think you should think for yourself rather than parrot others Alakaslam
also i just read the wiki article on the book that the flavor is based on
bh have you read "wasteland of flint" by thomas harlan? from the description of "a fire upon the deep" it sounds like you would like wasteland if you like it.
I think the bh scum advice is to make jokes about a topic when someone call you scum. He is not being cryptic it is more of a "let me be overly complicated with my posts because I like to look awesome!". Its annoying just because its so forced and it is also annoying because it is scummy in a way but not so scummy people actually vote for them. So they just cause unneeded confusion all game. Personally I think it should count as playing against your win condition when your town. Being confusing to look cool is just a hassle.
Also ET I do not see how it is excessively negative, I could maybe see negative. I was joking first off. Yes there will be bad players in this game (my second game, first has not even ended but I am dead). If you could not see the only weird post above mine and I had to point it out for you...... hopefully this is your first game.... but wait that would be breaking the rules unless you talked to bh.... oh wait how many people actually read the rules...
As far as IML its instant majority lynch that means that if somebody else hoped into this thread and voted for me, then both mafia players voted for me, it would then probably be 5 town vs 2 mafia. It is also bad because we want to wait as close to 72 hours as possible before lynch.
I do no think its in vogue. But why are you not complaining about slam being constructive? He does not explain a term but I have to quote..... already we are divided.
On June 29 2014 08:24 Snickers wrote: Also ET I do not see how it is excessively negative, I could maybe see negative. I was joking first off. Yes there will be bad players in this game (my second game, first has not even ended but I am dead). If you could not see the only weird post above mine and I had to point it out for you...... hopefully this is your first game.... but wait that would be breaking the rules unless you talked to bh.... oh wait how many people actually read the rules...
If you were joking then w.e, I just think it is excessively negative to tell someone to let themself be modkilled if they don't see the thread in the exact same way that you do. Calling everyone bad who doesn't see eye to eye with you is both 1. not conducive to good town environment 2. douchey. but since you were joking, w.e. There are people who aren't joking when they say things like "god you are so fn terrible town would be better if you suicided", etc.
Simply put, I don't like how people often bash town, and in a game like this we are in the best position to subvert that to town advantage. I'm not trying to exclusively single you out, but it is a common thread in most mafia games. Yeah, in most games there are often townie lurkers. Yeah there are often townies who don't explain themself at all. But unlike 30man games where those kinds of things are nearly unavoidable, this is a 9 man game. There aren't many places for scum to hide. So, if we foster an environment where people feel at ease talking discussing sharing reads, it puts a lot more pressure on scum to act, perform.
I do no think its in vogue. But why are you not complaining about slam being constructive? He does not explain a term but I have to quote..... already we are divided.
Are you sure, I am not complaining about slam? pls read thread bettr lul
But come forth ye sinister in thy chuckling, simply explain yourself.
When Blazinghand coached me as scum in a newbie game, he advised me to be a jerk
I was "whut"
He was "srs for example: tell (dude) to give his grandmother cunnilingus for he is nothing"
I was "whut"
He was "do it now"
I was "whut"
I lost.
Snickers being catty, a jerk. A snicker is a sinister, mocking chuckle. I ask that he explain his pointing out a post is weird without saying which one it was, a la SNB's pointer.
On June 29 2014 08:24 Snickers wrote: I think the bh scum advice is to make jokes about a topic when someone call you scum. He is not being cryptic it is more of a "let me be overly complicated with my posts because I like to look awesome!". Its annoying just because its so forced and it is also annoying because it is scummy in a way but not so scummy people actually vote for them. So they just cause unneeded confusion all game. Personally I think it should count as playing against your win condition when your town. Being confusing to look cool is just a hassle.
Also ET I do not see how it is excessively negative, I could maybe see negative. I was joking first off. Yes there will be bad players in this game (my second game, first has not even ended but I am dead). If you could not see the only weird post above mine and I had to point it out for you...... hopefully this is your first game.... but wait that would be breaking the rules unless you talked to bh.... oh wait how many people actually read the rules...
As far as IML its instant majority lynch that means that if somebody else hoped into this thread and voted for me, then both mafia players voted for me, it would then probably be 5 town vs 2 mafia. It is also bad because we want to wait as close to 72 hours as possible before lynch.
I do no think its in vogue. But why are you not complaining about slam being constructive? He does not explain a term but I have to quote..... already we are divided.
Well I explained my stuff sort of now
As for forcing I apologize for the chupazic constipation. It is forever within my butthijole, and it requires work to remove, not to experience.
Indeed it gives me great joy, but not because I am so BAMCIS such as this Palmar, Marv, Blazinghand, IamPerfection, Raynpelikoneet etc
It is because it does the opposite, it makes me the scourge that folks nevertheless discover (see geript he can get creepy. He accurately gauged my quality of life at one time by my gameplay)
Indeed I do not so much enjoy making myself murky, as being discovered when I am so murky- whatever I may feign.
On June 29 2014 08:24 Snickers wrote: Also ET I do not see how it is excessively negative, I could maybe see negative. I was joking first off. Yes there will be bad players in this game (my second game, first has not even ended but I am dead). If you could not see the only weird post above mine and I had to point it out for you...... hopefully this is your first game.... but wait that would be breaking the rules unless you talked to bh.... oh wait how many people actually read the rules...
If you were joking then w.e, I just think it is excessively negative to tell someone to let themself be modkilled if they don't see the thread in the exact same way that you do. Calling everyone bad who doesn't see eye to eye with you is both 1. not conducive to good town environment 2. douchey. but since you were joking, w.e. There are people who aren't joking when they say things like "god you are so fn terrible town would be better if you suicided", etc.
Simply put, I don't like how people often bash town, and in a game like this we are in the best position to subvert that to town advantage. I'm not trying to exclusively single you out, but it is a common thread in most mafia games. Yeah, in most games there are often townie lurkers. Yeah there are often townies who don't explain themself at all. But unlike 30man games where those kinds of things are nearly unavoidable, this is a 9 man game. There aren't many places for scum to hide. So, if we foster an environment where people feel at ease talking discussing sharing reads, it puts a lot more pressure on scum to act, perform.
I do no think its in vogue. But why are you not complaining about slam being constructive? He does not explain a term but I have to quote..... already we are divided.
Are you sure, I am not complaining about slam? pls read thread bettr lul
already a bunch of misunderstanding. I could of made this more clear but I half answered you then showed something else.
Anyway to clear the only thing up that needs to be cleared, I was not saying think like me or go jump off a bridge, I was saying if you cannot see "hi" "hi" "hi" "hi" and "talking about game plan" "hi" "hi" as one thing that is weird.
[QUOTE]On June 29 2014 13:36 EchelonTee wrote: [QUOTE]On June 29 2014 08:24 Snickers wrote: Also ET I do not see how it is excessively negative, I could maybe see negative. I was joking first off. Yes there will be bad players in this game (my second game, first has not even ended but I am dead). If you could not see the only weird post above mine and I had to point it out for you...... hopefully this is your first game.... but wait that would be breaking the rules unless you talked to bh.... oh wait how many people actually read the rules... [/quote] If you were joking then w.e, I just think it is excessively negative to tell someone to let themself be modkilled if they don't see the thread in the exact same way that you do. Calling everyone bad who doesn't see eye to eye with you is both 1. not conducive to good town environment 2. douchey. but since you were joking, w.e. There are people who aren't joking when they say things like "god you are so fn terrible town would be better if you suicided", etc.
Simply put, I don't like how people often bash town, and in a game like this we are in the best position to subvert that to town advantage. I'm not trying to exclusively single you out, but it is a common thread in most mafia games. Yeah, in most games there are often townie lurkers. Yeah there are often townies who don't explain themself at all. But unlike 30man games where those kinds of things are nearly unavoidable, this is a 9 man game. There aren't many places for scum to hide. So, if we foster an environment where people feel at ease talking discussing sharing reads, it puts a lot more pressure on scum to act, perform.
[quote]I do no think its in vogue. But why are you not complaining about slam being constructive? He does not explain a term but I have to quote..... already we are divided.[/QUOTE] Are you [url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/460423-a-fire-upon-the-deep-mini-mafia?page=3#60]sure[/url], I am not complaining about slam? pls read thread bettr lul[/QUOTE]
I slept and thought about a few things.
Stuff like that is a lot more rude than just joking around. First off it looks like you were complaining towards me and suggesting to slam about his play. Then the good old "read better" or "please read" or "go back and read". Subtle but rude as hell.
As far as this BH advice. Lets not take his advice because his play is so misunderstood and annoying.
Slam stop throwing votes left and right. If u think someone is scum just bold it in this thread. Votes matter at all times, more than just letting people know who you want to lynch in x hours.
Also HMMMMM I wonder why he did not explain his reads. Maybe because when somebody goes into detail, people bitch about the length of it. (this happens across multiple games) Why do you not ask him about why he thinks x is scum or why y is town rather than telling him to explain why he is not scum because what he did is considering scummy by you. Asking him to go into detail about his reads will give more info than.... prove that you are not scum.
And I made a mistake. Thought kush was in this game.
On June 30 2014 05:31 Snickers wrote: Slam stop throwing votes left and right. If u think someone is scum just bold it in this thread. Votes matter at all times, more than just letting people know who you want to lynch in x hours.
Also HMMMMM I wonder why he did not explain his reads. Maybe because when somebody goes into detail, people bitch about the length of it. (this happens across multiple games) Why do you not ask him about why he thinks x is scum or why y is town rather than telling him to explain why he is not scum because what he did is considering scummy by you. Asking him to go into detail about his reads will give more info than.... prove that you are not scum.
And I made a mistake. Thought kush was in this game.
Is slam scummy for rando voting in a majority lynch setup?
On June 30 2014 05:10 MysteryMeat1 wrote: i'm just gonna give some gut reads from reading through the thread.
Top Town Robik
See Banks...this guy clearly passed first grade....even though his read on me is totally baseless. Having me as top town, even as a gut weird might be the weirdest thing of all time
On June 30 2014 04:07 Snickers wrote: Stuff like that is a lot more rude than just joking around. First off it looks like you were complaining towards me and suggesting to slam about his play. Then the good old "read better" or "please read" or "go back and read". Subtle but rude as hell.
As far as this BH advice. Lets not take his advice because his play is so misunderstood and annoying.
I'm not sure why you're trying to be so divisive with me. we had the same exact opinion on slam's post
I just thought it was pretty funny that you were unhappy I didn't comment slam's post when the direct previous post was me doing that
On June 30 2014 05:10 MysteryMeat1 wrote: i'm just gonna give some gut reads from reading through the thread.
Top Town Robik
See Banks...this guy clearly passed first grade....even though his read on me is totally baseless. Having me as top town, even as a gut weird might be the weirdest thing of all time
On June 30 2014 05:10 MysteryMeat1 wrote: i'm just gonna give some gut reads from reading through the thread.
Top Town Robik
See Banks...this guy clearly passed first grade....even though his read on me is totally baseless. Having me as top town, even as a gut weird might be the weirdest thing of all time
Not sure I'm going to be sheeping simba's reads.
Only 1 of them needs to be sheeped -- the one that calls me town.
On June 30 2014 06:48 EchelonTee wrote: Chairman, I'm curious what you think about MysteryMeat (MM)'s list. Specifically his town read on you
Similar impressions as me. He didn't include Snickers, who is the most active player so far. I would personally slot Snickers under slightly scummy just because he's taking some little things a bit too serious.
On June 30 2014 06:48 EchelonTee wrote: Chairman, I'm curious what you think about MysteryMeat (MM)'s list. Specifically his town read on you
Similar impressions as me. He didn't include Snickers, who is the most active player so far. I would personally slot Snickers under slightly scummy just because he's taking some little things a bit too serious.
I think you should be more concerned with that he kept me off his list. It seems like you were but then you got distracted.
Meh look at my meta, I am the most misunderstood mafia player on tl after Bh. I do not go crazy like some people (2 people in this game want to mislead), My "seriousness" is that I am playing to keep stuff organized and clear.
Someone wanted to know my read on Slam.
Slam-bad town (throwing quick votes around and Some post above this one was weird) StrongNBig-bad town (Throwing quick votes around and only having one post to look at) Et-bad town (already is super confused with my posts so he hinks he is right and I am wrong)
Do not get offended if you are on that list. I have a small sample size of posts. This is also why I do not read anyone as scum yet. Way too few posts and usually you need to link posts to prior posts.
Ebwop sorry Slam was only throwing quick votes so I do not have a read on him. I also do not have a read on Robik. The best way I can cateorgize them as "posts weird regardless of alignment."
On June 30 2014 06:48 EchelonTee wrote: Chairman, I'm curious what you think about MysteryMeat (MM)'s list. Specifically his town read on you
Similar impressions as me. He didn't include Snickers, who is the most active player so far. I would personally slot Snickers under slightly scummy just because he's taking some little things a bit too serious.
I think you should be more concerned with that he kept me off his list. It seems like you were but then you got distracted.
Meh look at my meta, I am the most misunderstood mafia player on tl after Bh. I do not go crazy like some people (2 people in this game want to mislead), My "seriousness" is that I am playing to keep stuff organized and clear.
Someone wanted to know my read on Slam.
Slam-bad town (throwing quick votes around and Some post above this one was weird) StrongNBig-bad town (Throwing quick votes around and only having one post to look at) Et-bad town (already is super confused with my posts so he hinks he is right and I am wrong)
Do not get offended if you are on that list. I have a small sample size of posts. This is also why I do not read anyone as scum yet. Way too few posts and usually you need to link posts to prior posts.
When you say "bad town", do you mean someone who is playing in a way that is hurtful to town, but the way they're playing would not come from a mafia?
When I say "bad town" I mean that this person does not think clearly. He is trying his best, but is just bad at the game. Usually you cannot convince them to vote with you, when you think someone is almost 100% mafia so you have to trick them into voting with you. So like my last game, I tried to trick the town players into voting a person I thought was scum by using "rules" that they highly respected.(I was town) But the mafia played them hard.
So I will not have a large chunk of time tomorrow for this game. I will have a few small chunks though. I think somebody in this thread already did something very weird. (as in maybe scummy). I am super tired at the moment and do not want to throw around bad information. Look back and read the thread so far and see if you can find it. He will probably post more tomorrow so I can also make more of it then.
On June 30 2014 05:31 Snickers wrote: Slam stop throwing votes left and right. If u think someone is scum just bold it in this thread. Votes matter at all times, more than just letting people know who you want to lynch in x hours.
Also HMMMMM I wonder why he did not explain his reads. Maybe because when somebody goes into detail, people bitch about the length of it. (this happens across multiple games) Why do you not ask him about why he thinks x is scum or why y is town rather than telling him to explain why he is not scum because what he did is considering scummy by you. Asking him to go into detail about his reads will give more info than.... prove that you are not scum.
And I made a mistake. Thought kush was in this game.
Oh yeah
You give the hard defense no-nonsense & stuff
Y?
Y u townread meat so hard SSON
And I don't want specifics that he can't think of as good defense for his epic badass townieness, I think he can say "I made a list post because (reason), so get off my back you fool" by himself.
You assume to much. If you read my post before this I gave my reads. I never have thought him as town. Where are you getting him as bad town? This one post?
Posting list of reads isn't inherently scummy but I don't know why you said this
On June 30 2014 18:17 MysteryMeat1 wrote: honestly, my reads were just very gut feeling, and i only posted them so that we could get some discussion on the matter.
when you weren't really under much pressure. It's like you're trying to avoid ownership over them. That reticence is scummy to me.
I also agree that him exclusing Snickers from the list calling him "nullreads on two randos who i don't know are in game" is pretty fn weird considering how much he was talking.
- snickers, for srs this time. (1) complains about getting hit with rvs, seems to care way too much about one or two votes. Not necessarily scum but a yellow flag at least. (2) more importantly - I want to lynch him for this post, and the ones that follow it:
On June 30 2014 06:48 EchelonTee wrote: Chairman, I'm curious what you think about MysteryMeat (MM)'s list. Specifically his town read on you
Similar impressions as me. He didn't include Snickers, who is the most active player so far. I would personally slot Snickers under slightly scummy just because he's taking some little things a bit too serious.
I think you should be more concerned with that he kept me off his list. It seems like you were but then you got distracted.
Meh look at my meta, I am the most misunderstood mafia player on tl after Bh. I do not go crazy like some people (2 people in this game want to mislead), My "seriousness" is that I am playing to keep stuff organized and clear.
Someone wanted to know my read on Slam.
Slam-bad town (throwing quick votes around and Some post above this one was weird) StrongNBig-bad town (Throwing quick votes around and only having one post to look at) Et-bad town (already is super confused with my posts so he hinks he is right and I am wrong)
Do not get offended if you are on that list. I have a small sample size of posts. This is also why I do not read anyone as scum yet. Way too few posts and usually you need to link posts to prior posts.
This and the follow-ups read to me like he's trying too hard to fit an image of what "TL townies play like". The emotion doesn't read as genuine to me, there's no reason for it. Instead it feels like he's trying to force an image.
A meat lynch would be okay with me atm, or at least preferable to no lynch. There's the thing et pointed out, plus I don't like that he called robik his "top town read" at a point when robik had made two posts - one a joke and one saying he was not reading the thread. I want to hear from meat - what motivated you to put robik as top?
On June 30 2014 15:37 Snickers wrote: So I do not know what no nonsense means.
You assume to much. If you read my post before this I gave my reads. I never have thought him as town. Where are you getting him as bad town? This one post?
Please explain the location of the hypocrisy.
My entire filter!
No more combative! Hijole- let me insult myself already
I do not know what srs means or rvs. I do not understand your post. "Tl townies play like" you mean I am playing how i think Tl townies play like? I do not see the emotion in it either. Look at my meta if you want to know my style. It is different than people on here.
How has no one asked ET yet why he asked Chairman about MM's reads and no one else? That was what I thought was scummy. His question seems forced and not genuine. Even if I did not have "genuine" emotion that is not as bad as questions that are not "genuine". It seems like he just picked it out of the air.
On July 01 2014 00:37 Snickers wrote: I do not know what srs means or rvs. I do not understand your post. "Tl townies play like" you mean I am playing how i think Tl townies play like? I do not see the emotion in it either. Look at my meta if you want to know my style. It is different than people on here.
How has no one asked ET yet why he asked Chairman about MM's reads and no one else? That was what I thought was scummy. His question seems forced and not genuine. Even if I did not have "genuine" emotion that is not as bad as questions that are not "genuine". It seems like he just picked it out of the air.
"srs" serious "rvs" random voting stage
what I mean is that when you complain about "bad townies", how you have to "trick people into listening to you", and how specific players in this game are "bad townies", I see it as emotional complaining about town. It seems like you are grinding a particular axe, but there's no reason for that yet in this game. So yeah, it seems to me that you're trying to play like you think tl townies play, because there's no good reason for you to be upset yet.
On July 01 2014 00:08 IAmRobik wrote: I don't have a reason to lynch anyone in this game yet...but only cause I haven't read it
why have you not read the game? I literally refuse to believe you can be here posting but don't have time to read 3 pages, especially if you're posting "i'm here and have nothing to add". Here's something you can add - read snicker's filter and tell me whether you agree with my argument
I'm at work I'm showing that I'm here and lurking, but not fully committed to solving this game yet. I am more than happy to lynch anyone at this point, because lynching > not lynching in most cases, as long as we don't lynch me cause I know I"m not mafia. At some point, someone's gonna have to step up and grab the reigns. I'll probably do that during n1 or d2.
W/E. If you wanna lynch him SnB, I'm not stopping you. I'll even put my vote on him with you if that's what you want. As long as we lynch someone whose name isn't "IAmRobik" today I'm happy.
Well it's honest and it's how I feel at the present moment.
I'd rather just lynch someone who's not participating at all, but if someone says someone else is sketchy, I'll just take their word for it and lynch that person. Like I said, I'll reconsider everything during n1 and d2, but as long as ANYONE BUT ME gets lynched I'm happy.
On July 01 2014 00:37 Snickers wrote: I do not know what srs means or rvs. I do not understand your post. "Tl townies play like" you mean I am playing how i think Tl townies play like? I do not see the emotion in it either. Look at my meta if you want to know my style. It is different than people on here.
How has no one asked ET yet why he asked Chairman about MM's reads and no one else? That was what I thought was scummy. His question seems forced and not genuine. Even if I did not have "genuine" emotion that is not as bad as questions that are not "genuine". It seems like he just picked it out of the air.
"srs" serious "rvs" random voting stage
what I mean is that when you complain about "bad townies", how you have to "trick people into listening to you", and how specific players in this game are "bad townies", I see it as emotional complaining about town. It seems like you are grinding a particular axe, but there's no reason for that yet in this game. So yeah, it seems to me that you're trying to play like you think tl townies play, because there's no good reason for you to be upset yet.
I kinda don't want to lynch Snickers. Looking at his play, I get the impression that he's an lesser experienced and overly eager town. I mean, look at his pre-game post:
On June 28 2014 17:15 Snickers wrote: Walmart Is selling 70 page notebooks for 25 cents. I just bought 16 for this game (notes).Now with tax, the total came to $4.24. I expect you all to put forth similar money into this game. If you are confused use a currency converter.
A mafia right now would want to grasp at some fake reasons to put scumreads onto people, or bandwagon off a town's scumreads on other towns. Snickers has said a lot but it's mostly just for painting people as bad town, and he's the one initializing the pushes onto people and there's no bandwagoning at all. As I said before, I do find it offputting that he's looking too far into small things, and you have an issue with him being overly upset, but I think these are both symptoms of a town that's too involved rather than mafia.
On July 01 2014 00:37 Snickers wrote: How has no one asked ET yet why he asked Chairman about MM's reads and no one else? That was what I thought was scummy. His question seems forced and not genuine. Even if I did not have "genuine" emotion that is not as bad as questions that are not "genuine". It seems like he just picked it out of the air.
Chairman and MM know each other from playing weekly mafia.
I'm not sure on snickers at the moment. My initial read on him was classic angsty town but I see what you're getting at when you say that his emotion seems forced. However, I suspect that he is trying to bait people into getting mad at him? He talked about how he is trying to "trick" people into agreeing with him.
Overall I find it to be distracting, but I think it is foolish to lynch a talkative person D1 rather than a lurky person D1. At LYLO, I would rather have a chatty Snickers alive to judge a whole filter against, as opposed to someone who has just a few one-liners the whole game. I don't support a lynch of Snickers atm. I thought it was odd that Chairman Ray had no problems with MM calling him town despite Chairman at the time having very little activity. At the time, Chairman had made 4 posts, in order being:
Chairman Ray wrote: We should lynch someone before they even come on >=)
Hey sorry I wasn't on today, got called into work ><
Will be busy most of the day tomorrow as well
hmm, looks like nothing's happened so far
Let's not follow BH's advice this game ><
All of which is just null (esp. since it was 24h in the game).
The problem I'm having thinking through this is I'm not sure if MM looks bad for randomly calling Chairman town, or if Chairman looks bad for blindly accepting it. The reason why I'm fixating on this pair is because usually if you're playing with people you know, you focus on them since you know how they usually act/talk and have history to base your reads on. I find it very odd that they are hardly interacting despite Chairman saying that this would be "interesting" playing TL mafia with him/her for the first time.
It's possible they are scum together; some classic traits are here. Not much interaction between each other, some support shown for each other, but not taking firm, hardline stands. It seems a bit too obvious though; would MM just up and call his scumbuddy town, if they were scum? That seems too nooby to be scum move, but it's possible if he is new.
Overall, their whole exchange just seems off; it doesn't sound like two townies with a history to me. I was leaning for MM because of his last post and his high lurkiness, but I would be ok with lynching CR as well.
I've heard that "sorry, I can't contribute guys, I'm totes mega-swamped at work" excuse before I'm just not in mafia chat this time to see you post "so should i post or just stay quiet"
i would love it if people would post a list detailing all of their reads in a semi-comprehensive format, this way we have all the reads in one place, and its easier to tell exactly what people are thinking. Also catching scum later on in the game its easier to see how their logic has changed in order to see inconsistancy.
So without further ado, i shall go first!
Snickers:
On June 30 2014 11:30 Snickers wrote: When I say "bad town" I mean that this person does not think clearly. He is trying his best, but is just bad at the game. Usually you cannot convince them to vote with you, when you think someone is almost 100% mafia so you have to trick them into voting with you. So like my last game, I tried to trick the town players into voting a person I thought was scum by using "rules" that they highly respected.(I was town) But the mafia played them hard.
really not a fan of this post and the one beforehand. It seems like he's being super try-hard. Not a big fan of him insulting people this early on in the game before things have really gotten serious. However the fact that he's being super try hard makes me think he could be town. However, i wouldn't mind lynching him just because it seems like he's a jerk, and i feel like i would have more fun playing without him. I also don't like snickers chocolate bars.
On June 30 2014 19:09 EchelonTee wrote: I'd be happy with an MM lynch.
Posting list of reads isn't inherently scummy but I don't know why you said this
On June 30 2014 18:17 MysteryMeat1 wrote: honestly, my reads were just very gut feeling, and i only posted them so that we could get some discussion on the matter.
when you weren't really under much pressure. It's like you're trying to avoid ownership over them. That reticence is scummy to me.
I also agree that him exclusing Snickers from the list calling him "nullreads on two randos who i don't know are in game" is pretty fn weird considering how much he was talking.
##Vote: MysteryMeat1
Honestly i'm not a fan of EchelonTee, In a IML setting i feel like people who vote earlier are actually more scummy. For a mafia to be one of the last people to vote it's too obvious, I may have contributed a list of my gut reads, but i still view that as a considerable contribution to town. It also prompted more discusion instead of people posting very little. Which i am quite satisfied with.
On June 30 2014 23:37 strongandbig wrote: I would lynch:
- snickers, for srs this time. (1) complains about getting hit with rvs, seems to care way too much about one or two votes. Not necessarily scum but a yellow flag at least. (2) more importantly - I want to lynch him for this post, and the ones that follow it:
On June 30 2014 06:48 EchelonTee wrote: Chairman, I'm curious what you think about MysteryMeat (MM)'s list. Specifically his town read on you
Similar impressions as me. He didn't include Snickers, who is the most active player so far. I would personally slot Snickers under slightly scummy just because he's taking some little things a bit too serious.
I think you should be more concerned with that he kept me off his list. It seems like you were but then you got distracted.
Meh look at my meta, I am the most misunderstood mafia player on tl after Bh. I do not go crazy like some people (2 people in this game want to mislead), My "seriousness" is that I am playing to keep stuff organized and clear.
Someone wanted to know my read on Slam.
Slam-bad town (throwing quick votes around and Some post above this one was weird) StrongNBig-bad town (Throwing quick votes around and only having one post to look at) Et-bad town (already is super confused with my posts so he hinks he is right and I am wrong)
Do not get offended if you are on that list. I have a small sample size of posts. This is also why I do not read anyone as scum yet. Way too few posts and usually you need to link posts to prior posts.
This and the follow-ups read to me like he's trying too hard to fit an image of what "TL townies play like". The emotion doesn't read as genuine to me, there's no reason for it. Instead it feels like he's trying to force an image.
A meat lynch would be okay with me atm, or at least preferable to no lynch. There's the thing et pointed out, plus I don't like that he called robik his "top town read" at a point when robik had made two posts - one a joke and one saying he was not reading the thread. I want to hear from meat - what motivated you to put robik as top?
But right now I'd rather lynch snickers.
I really really like strongandbig for this post. He's asking serious questions and trying to get the game figured out. Also doesn't like snickers for the same reasons. We both got the try hard feeling from snickers but camae to slightly different conclusions. I like his questioning of me and why i put robik as top town. I've played with robik on dailymafia, and the games that i've played with robik when he's super trolly like this he usually ends up VT. I'm really only giving him a day pass, and i expect him to start contributing more d2 or n1
I really don't like sinami, his filter is literally useless, quotes some post of Ray going /in and then goes alirhgt and votes for him.
leaning very scummy.
Chairman Ray: I like his posts alot, they have a good mix of trolliness but also comes back to the game to ask serious questions and figure it out. I'm not sure how i like the deflection off of snickers. With only two mafia, i doubt you would ever want to bus d1. very town: however if snickers ever gets lynched and flips red then i would take a look at Ray.
Slam: something about Slam's post just rubs me the wrong way.
On June 30 2014 05:16 Alakaslam wrote: MysteryMeat
Y
List post with no explanation is usually seen as scummy. EZ2FAKE
If you think something is scummy you should call it out as scummy, not go its usually seen as scummy, in order to try and put it into other peoples heads. I feel like Slam is trying to very subtly push his agenda without being overly obvious about it. He then switches his vote from snickers to me. And asks me why am i mafia with snicker. If he really believes snicker's is scum why is he switching his vote. I also just hate his posting style (lololo ) and the fact that he keeps on claiming hypocrisy. however i really hate people who push on people for stuff like inconsistancies, and get caught up in keeping everything straight as possible.
Gut feeling and after seeing his other posts, leaning mafia stil:
Robik: I explained in strongandbigs profile, but it was more of a joke that i called him top town, its pretty much an obvious attempt to pocket him this early.
thepoofter: Every forum game i've played with him or watched him play, he comes out of the gates super hard and just spews town all over everyones faces and keyboards. The fact that he hasn't I think is also very scummy of him. However i will give him the benefit of the doubt, as i think he's playing like 3 mafia forum games atm and playing video mafia at the same time.
I feel like i got everyone, if anyone has any questions please ask. Ill be back a few hours before voting ends.
to clarify, when i mention inconsistancy its more along the lines of you thought he was town at this point and then this point you thought he was mafia, what occured that made your read changed in this time frame. I like those kinds of questions not, you talked about htis person but not this person lets lynch him type of inconsistancies.
I disagree with people posting all of their reads and always have and will. Reason being 1. it gives scum a lot of info 2. it clutters the thread. I'd much rather people discuss their scum reads than their town reads. The top town players over the years don't blow their whole load unless they have to and I don't think we have to start either.
I find it funny that you consider my vote early when I placed it over 48hrs after the Day post. I will agree that your list generated discussion.
Tehpoof inactivity is irritating. This is a 9 person game with only 5 pages of content (mostly short posts too). If you can't handle the activity shouldn't join that many games.
On July 01 2014 06:11 EchelonTee wrote: I'm not sure on snickers at the moment. My initial read on him was classic angsty town but I see what you're getting at when you say that his emotion seems forced. However, I suspect that he is trying to bait people into getting mad at him? He talked about how he is trying to "trick" people into agreeing with him.
Overall I find it to be distracting, but I think it is foolish to lynch a talkative person D1 rather than a lurky person D1. At LYLO, I would rather have a chatty Snickers alive to judge a whole filter against, as opposed to someone who has just a few one-liners the whole game. I don't support a lynch of Snickers atm. I thought it was odd that Chairman Ray had no problems with MM calling him town despite Chairman at the time having very little activity. At the time, Chairman had made 4 posts, in order being:
All of which is just null (esp. since it was 24h in the game).
The problem I'm having thinking through this is I'm not sure if MM looks bad for randomly calling Chairman town, or if Chairman looks bad for blindly accepting it. The reason why I'm fixating on this pair is because usually if you're playing with people you know, you focus on them since you know how they usually act/talk and have history to base your reads on. I find it very odd that they are hardly interacting despite Chairman saying that this would be "interesting" playing TL mafia with him/her for the first time.
It's possible they are scum together; some classic traits are here. Not much interaction between each other, some support shown for each other, but not taking firm, hardline stands. It seems a bit too obvious though; would MM just up and call his scumbuddy town, if they were scum? That seems too nooby to be scum move, but it's possible if he is new.
Overall, their whole exchange just seems off; it doesn't sound like two townies with a history to me. I was leaning for MM because of his last post and his high lurkiness, but I would be ok with lynching CR as well.
I didn't interact with MM1 for his gut read list simply because it was a gut read list. Some people in that list haven't even started playing yet. I know how MM1 plays, so once he does something he only does when he's mafia, I'll be sure to holler.
Well I am still at school so cannot post much. I am voting robik. He shows lack of interest in the game and is very willing to hop onto somebody that is already being voted without his own reason. He is talking about people afking but shit, he is practicality afking by posting such ambiguous stuff. Also mm is looking a lot more like bad town. Cannot quote because I am on phone. He wants to maybe lynch me because I'm a jerk. I think slam is a jerk but I am not going to vote him for only this reason. I would only vote him if I had an equal town read on Everyone which is close to impossible.Will clear up the other stuff in a few hours.
Do not be offended by the good town/bad town. Good scum/bad scum thing. I like people to know what I am thinking. Saying someone is town is way to vague. Just think how differently scum and town play, so do good and bad players. A bad town could look "more scummy" than a good scum.
Well that's just a bad case. Robik was the first to suggest Chairman Ray was buddying (the whole pockets thing). It is not true that he is voting someone without his own reason. I do not get the impression that he lacks interest in the game.
Any other scum reads? In my eyes atm your vote is a throwaway vote
On July 01 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote: That reasoning for why snickers is town is really fucking off and seems like CR is trying to pocket snickers
Well, I'm not trying to pocket anyone. The people I'm leaning town on are Snickers, SnB, and ET, and I would prefer they don't get lynched.
You basically just picked the most active people (minus Slam)... activity does not immediately = town
who do you want to lynch?
I didn't pick my 3 because they were active. I have other reasons for them and I'm not gonna make a case for them unless we're thinking about lynching them.
If I had to pick people to lynch, right now it would be between poofter and sinani. They have both been cruising by because nobody's on them, and there's no excuse to be this inactive when it's a 9 player game and barely anything is happening.
On July 01 2014 06:52 Snickers wrote: Well I am still at school so cannot post much. I am voting robik. He shows lack of interest in the game and is very willing to hop onto somebody that is already being voted without his own reason. He is talking about people afking but shit, he is practicality afking by posting such ambiguous stuff. Also mm is looking a lot more like bad town. Cannot quote because I am on phone. He wants to maybe lynch me because I'm a jerk. I think slam is a jerk but I am not going to vote him for only this reason. I would only vote him if I had an equal town read on Everyone which is close to impossible.Will clear up the other stuff in a few hours.
Do not be offended by the good town/bad town. Good scum/bad scum thing. I like people to know what I am thinking. Saying someone is town is way to vague. Just think how differently scum and town play, so do good and bad players. A bad town could look "more scummy" than a good scum.
I wouldn't vote robik for today. He claimed to be skipping day 1 and being more active later on. We can discuss him if he doesn't live up to this commitment.
On July 01 2014 06:11 EchelonTee wrote: I'm not sure on snickers at the moment. My initial read on him was classic angsty town but I see what you're getting at when you say that his emotion seems forced. However, I suspect that he is trying to bait people into getting mad at him? He talked about how he is trying to "trick" people into agreeing with him.
Overall I find it to be distracting, but I think it is foolish to lynch a talkative person D1 rather than a lurky person D1. At LYLO, I would rather have a chatty Snickers alive to judge a whole filter against, as opposed to someone who has just a few one-liners the whole game. I don't support a lynch of Snickers atm. I thought it was odd that Chairman Ray had no problems with MM calling him town despite Chairman at the time having very little activity. At the time, Chairman had made 4 posts, in order being:
All of which is just null (esp. since it was 24h in the game).
The problem I'm having thinking through this is I'm not sure if MM looks bad for randomly calling Chairman town, or if Chairman looks bad for blindly accepting it. The reason why I'm fixating on this pair is because usually if you're playing with people you know, you focus on them since you know how they usually act/talk and have history to base your reads on. I find it very odd that they are hardly interacting despite Chairman saying that this would be "interesting" playing TL mafia with him/her for the first time.
It's possible they are scum together; some classic traits are here. Not much interaction between each other, some support shown for each other, but not taking firm, hardline stands. It seems a bit too obvious though; would MM just up and call his scumbuddy town, if they were scum? That seems too nooby to be scum move, but it's possible if he is new.
Overall, their whole exchange just seems off; it doesn't sound like two townies with a history to me. I was leaning for MM because of his last post and his high lurkiness, but I would be ok with lynching CR as well.
I like this post. I think in general the "blindly calling someone town" is worse than "blindly accepting a townread", every townie knows they're town and sometimes they might not think too critically about how they look to an outside observer.
also im not a fan of mm's most recent reason for calling cr town
Shit guys. I forgot robik made an actual post. But I still stand that he shows disinterest in the game. I will retract my vote once I'm home and if he does not do anything super scummy until then. If somebody not on an iPhone could get a post count of each person, you will have my limited gratitude.
On July 01 2014 07:56 Snickers wrote: And et try to read my posts better. I never said his current vote(do not even know if he is voting ) is him following somebody else.
? This is what I said:
On July 01 2014 06:54 EchelonTee wrote: Well that's just a bad case. Robik was the first to suggest Chairman Ray was buddying (the whole pockets thing). It is not true that he is voting someone without his own reason. I do not get the impression that he lacks interest in the game.
I said your case is bad because you claimed Robik was pushing CR without having his own reasoning. I pointed out that he did have his own reasoning. I did not mention following at all.
On July 01 2014 08:13 strongandbig wrote: ok so there's like 9 hours left. given time zone disparities it makes sense imo to start actually trying to consolidate on a lynch now.
I will lynch the following people, in order of preference:
I will not lynch the other four people in this game, even at the cost of a no-lynch.
Everyone should express multiple people they would be willing to consolidate on, so we can make sure we actually get a lynch today.
Why do you have me as your second top lynch?
Also, I don't think we should all post a list of multiple people we want to lynch. There will be town that appear commonly in a lot of people's lists, and mafia can simply push onto those people and get a mislynch. We should have enough time to figure out an ideal lynch instead of one that most people are willing to consolidate on.
CR, is there any reason why you dislike SnB's idea of posting multiple scum reads, but you have no qualms with MM posting all of his thoughts continuously? MM is doing the same thing, but to a more extreme degee
On July 01 2014 08:35 EchelonTee wrote: CR, is there any reason why you dislike SnB's idea of posting multiple scum reads, but you have no qualms with MM posting all of his thoughts continuously? MM is doing the same thing, but to a more extreme degee
MM1 posted all his reads just for giving his thoughts. SnB is suggesting for everyone to post people they are willing to lynch, and then to cross reference lists to determine who we can consolidate on.
Is your read on me because you think there's a lack of interaction between me and MM1? Do you have any other reasons for putting me on your lynch list?
On July 01 2014 01:42 IAmRobik wrote: I'm at work I'm showing that I'm here and lurking, but not fully committed to solving this game yet. I am more than happy to lynch anyone at this point, because lynching > not lynching in most cases, as long as we don't lynch me cause I know I"m not mafia. At some point, someone's gonna have to step up and grab the reigns. I'll probably do that during n1 or d2.
No X is town for Y stupid reason yet... Mafia bells ringing for you friend if this wasn't majority I'd already be voting you.
On July 01 2014 06:15 IAmRobik wrote: ##vote: Chairman Ray
I've heard that "sorry, I can't contribute guys, I'm totes mega-swamped at work" excuse before I'm just not in mafia chat this time to see you post "so should i post or just stay quiet"
On July 01 2014 06:25 MysteryMeat1 wrote: i would love it if people would post a list detailing all of their reads in a semi-comprehensive format, this way we have all the reads in one place, and its easier to tell exactly what people are thinking. Also catching scum later on in the game its easier to see how their logic has changed in order to see inconsistancy.
On June 30 2014 11:30 Snickers wrote: When I say "bad town" I mean that this person does not think clearly. He is trying his best, but is just bad at the game. Usually you cannot convince them to vote with you, when you think someone is almost 100% mafia so you have to trick them into voting with you. So like my last game, I tried to trick the town players into voting a person I thought was scum by using "rules" that they highly respected.(I was town) But the mafia played them hard.
really not a fan of this post and the one beforehand. It seems like he's being super try-hard. Not a big fan of him insulting people this early on in the game before things have really gotten serious. However the fact that he's being super try hard makes me think he could be town. However, i wouldn't mind lynching him just because it seems like he's a jerk, and i feel like i would have more fun playing without him. I also don't like snickers chocolate bars.
On June 30 2014 19:09 EchelonTee wrote: I'd be happy with an MM lynch.
Posting list of reads isn't inherently scummy but I don't know why you said this
On June 30 2014 18:17 MysteryMeat1 wrote: honestly, my reads were just very gut feeling, and i only posted them so that we could get some discussion on the matter.
when you weren't really under much pressure. It's like you're trying to avoid ownership over them. That reticence is scummy to me.
I also agree that him exclusing Snickers from the list calling him "nullreads on two randos who i don't know are in game" is pretty fn weird considering how much he was talking.
##Vote: MysteryMeat1
Honestly i'm not a fan of EchelonTee, In a IML setting i feel like people who vote earlier are actually more scummy. For a mafia to be one of the last people to vote it's too obvious, I may have contributed a list of my gut reads, but i still view that as a considerable contribution to town. It also prompted more discusion instead of people posting very little. Which i am quite satisfied with.
On June 30 2014 23:37 strongandbig wrote: I would lynch:
- snickers, for srs this time. (1) complains about getting hit with rvs, seems to care way too much about one or two votes. Not necessarily scum but a yellow flag at least. (2) more importantly - I want to lynch him for this post, and the ones that follow it:
On June 30 2014 06:48 EchelonTee wrote: Chairman, I'm curious what you think about MysteryMeat (MM)'s list. Specifically his town read on you
Similar impressions as me. He didn't include Snickers, who is the most active player so far. I would personally slot Snickers under slightly scummy just because he's taking some little things a bit too serious.
I think you should be more concerned with that he kept me off his list. It seems like you were but then you got distracted.
Meh look at my meta, I am the most misunderstood mafia player on tl after Bh. I do not go crazy like some people (2 people in this game want to mislead), My "seriousness" is that I am playing to keep stuff organized and clear.
Someone wanted to know my read on Slam.
Slam-bad town (throwing quick votes around and Some post above this one was weird) StrongNBig-bad town (Throwing quick votes around and only having one post to look at) Et-bad town (already is super confused with my posts so he hinks he is right and I am wrong)
Do not get offended if you are on that list. I have a small sample size of posts. This is also why I do not read anyone as scum yet. Way too few posts and usually you need to link posts to prior posts.
This and the follow-ups read to me like he's trying too hard to fit an image of what "TL townies play like". The emotion doesn't read as genuine to me, there's no reason for it. Instead it feels like he's trying to force an image.
A meat lynch would be okay with me atm, or at least preferable to no lynch. There's the thing et pointed out, plus I don't like that he called robik his "top town read" at a point when robik had made two posts - one a joke and one saying he was not reading the thread. I want to hear from meat - what motivated you to put robik as top?
But right now I'd rather lynch snickers.
I really really like strongandbig for this post. He's asking serious questions and trying to get the game figured out. Also doesn't like snickers for the same reasons. We both got the try hard feeling from snickers but camae to slightly different conclusions. I like his questioning of me and why i put robik as top town. I've played with robik on dailymafia, and the games that i've played with robik when he's super trolly like this he usually ends up VT. I'm really only giving him a day pass, and i expect him to start contributing more d2 or n1
I really don't like sinami, his filter is literally useless, quotes some post of Ray going /in and then goes alirhgt and votes for him.
leaning very scummy.
Chairman Ray: I like his posts alot, they have a good mix of trolliness but also comes back to the game to ask serious questions and figure it out. I'm not sure how i like the deflection off of snickers. With only two mafia, i doubt you would ever want to bus d1. very town: however if snickers ever gets lynched and flips red then i would take a look at Ray.
Slam: something about Slam's post just rubs me the wrong way.
On June 30 2014 05:16 Alakaslam wrote: MysteryMeat
Y
List post with no explanation is usually seen as scummy. EZ2FAKE
If you think something is scummy you should call it out as scummy, not go its usually seen as scummy, in order to try and put it into other peoples heads. I feel like Slam is trying to very subtly push his agenda without being overly obvious about it. He then switches his vote from snickers to me. And asks me why am i mafia with snicker. If he really believes snicker's is scum why is he switching his vote. I also just hate his posting style (lololo ) and the fact that he keeps on claiming hypocrisy. however i really hate people who push on people for stuff like inconsistancies, and get caught up in keeping everything straight as possible.
Gut feeling and after seeing his other posts, leaning mafia stil:
Robik: I explained in strongandbigs profile, but it was more of a joke that i called him top town, its pretty much an obvious attempt to pocket him this early.
thepoofter: Every forum game i've played with him or watched him play, he comes out of the gates super hard and just spews town all over everyones faces and keyboards. The fact that he hasn't I think is also very scummy of him. However i will give him the benefit of the doubt, as i think he's playing like 3 mafia forum games atm and playing video mafia at the same time.
I feel like i got everyone, if anyone has any questions please ask. Ill be back a few hours before voting ends.
Your quotes fucking long but Robik hasn't town read ANYONE or claimed a role. Like either he literally couldn't give a single fuck about this game or he is mafia with someone he doesn't think is good enough to win. Calling scumteam now as Robik/someone he doesn't like maybe you MM.
On July 01 2014 08:13 strongandbig wrote: ok so there's like 9 hours left. given time zone disparities it makes sense imo to start actually trying to consolidate on a lynch now.
I will lynch the following people, in order of preference:
On July 01 2014 06:15 IAmRobik wrote: ##vote: Chairman Ray
I've heard that "sorry, I can't contribute guys, I'm totes mega-swamped at work" excuse before I'm just not in mafia chat this time to see you post "so should i post or just stay quiet"
haha did he really say that in order mafia chat?
Essentially...it might have been Chrome too. Both of them were meh. Had to carry that shit so hard.
On July 01 2014 06:15 IAmRobik wrote: ##vote: Chairman Ray
I've heard that "sorry, I can't contribute guys, I'm totes mega-swamped at work" excuse before I'm just not in mafia chat this time to see you post "so should i post or just stay quiet"
haha did he really say that in order mafia chat?
Essentially...it might have been Chrome too. Both of them were meh. Had to carry that shit so hard.
IT makes me think you're tired of carrying as mafia and don't like your team tbh
On July 01 2014 07:56 Snickers wrote: And et try to read my posts better. I never said his current vote(do not even know if he is voting ) is him following somebody else.
On July 01 2014 06:54 EchelonTee wrote: Well that's just a bad case. Robik was the first to suggest Chairman Ray was buddying (the whole pockets thing). It is not true that he is voting someone without his own reason. I do not get the impression that he lacks interest in the game.
I said your case is bad because you claimed Robik was pushing CR without having his own reasoning. I pointed out that he did have his own reasoning. I did not mention following at all.
Are you not an English native speaker?
No i was saying that he admitted that he would just jump onto a lynch with somebody else, I am going to reread the thread and I will also give you more proper proof when your nap is finished.
Talking about your "nap", saying "hopefully" ill be back before the hammer is scummy as hell. Shows complete disinterest in the game.
You were suggesting my English is bad? "Are you not an English native speaker" could be a lot better as "Are you a native English speaker." Yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo pass me some of your drugs.
You're bad banks. I'm town. I don't want to use the excuse of 3 games, but this is a smaller game with longer days. I plan to engross myself in it starting n1 and on into d2. I haven't town read anyone because I haven't really read the thread yet besides random portions of when I post and maybe some ctrl-f of my name. Trying to lynch me d1 is fucking stupid though. Everything you are mafia reading me for this game, is the opposite of how I played mafia in Order, so lynching me for that reason is fucking stupid. It's pretty much the equivalent of people wanting to lynch you in Order for your random absences and lack of contributions. Plus, I did claim I role. I claimed town.
I mean, if you decide to mislynch me for a lack of effort then that's your prerogative. I have promised effort moving forward and I will uphold my promise.
Lynching me is a bad strategy anyway, because I'm really really fucking good at portraying town and making myself obvious town. This will also occur sometime between n1 and d2.
Additionally, I have said the towniest thing in this game. There has been no one that has said something townier. That statement was that I would lynch ANYONE but myself today. Literally anyone. As long as we don't no-lynch and don't lynch me I'll be happy.
No one else has made that claim, and I'm town for it.
On July 01 2014 06:15 IAmRobik wrote: ##vote: Chairman Ray
I've heard that "sorry, I can't contribute guys, I'm totes mega-swamped at work" excuse before I'm just not in mafia chat this time to see you post "so should i post or just stay quiet"
haha did he really say that in order mafia chat?
Essentially...it might have been Chrome too. Both of them were meh. Had to carry that shit so hard.
IT makes me think you're tired of carrying as mafia and don't like your team tbh
I like CR so far though.
I don't have to worry about carrying as mafia because I'm town. The thought of how I would feel as mafia never crossed my mind.
Just had to say that making yourself look obvious town is actually bad. Most town person is who gets shot. This is just a general idea. If everybody that was town could make themselves look town but scum could not, than it would be good.
On July 01 2014 10:21 Snickers wrote: Just had to say that making yourself look obvious town is actually bad. Most town person is who gets shot. This is just a general idea. If everybody that was town could make themselves look town but scum could not, than it would be good.
I eat n1 bullets often. It's whatever. Comes with the territory of being a mafia god
What I can gather is last people to vote are likely scum hoping they can hammer a townie
But they may know this so there is WIFOM
Think before hammer we have this luxury of time. For now, I think SNB has the right idea
snickers
Instead of posting why he's voting snickers, Alakaslam is pre-emptively defending his fast voting by saying that scum are more likely to vote last. A town would justify a vote after they are under pressure for it. This is very scummy to me.
But come forth ye sinister in thy chuckling, simply explain yourself.
When Blazinghand coached me as scum in a newbie game, he advised me to be a jerk
I was "whut"
He was "srs for example: tell (dude) to give his grandmother cunnilingus for he is nothing"
I was "whut"
He was "do it now"
I was "whut"
I lost.
Snickers being catty, a jerk. A snicker is a sinister, mocking chuckle. I ask that he explain his pointing out a post is weird without saying which one it was, a la SNB's pointer.
Now I will read this page y'all
At the time, the reason why SnB voted snickers was because Snickers said a post was weird without indicating which one. Snickers made a sarcastic remark, and Alakaslam pushed him for it with the reasoning that BH coached him saying that being a jerk is a good strategy as scum. This is a pretty far-fetched reason to scumread someone and feels very forced.
On July 01 2014 10:14 IAmRobik wrote: I mean, if you decide to mislynch me for a lack of effort then that's your prerogative. I have promised effort moving forward and I will uphold my promise.
Lynching me is a bad strategy anyway, because I'm really really fucking good at portraying town and making myself obvious town. This will also occur sometime between n1 and d2.
Additionally, I have said the towniest thing in this game. There has been no one that has said something townier. That statement was that I would lynch ANYONE but myself today. Literally anyone. As long as we don't no-lynch and don't lynch me I'll be happy.
No one else has made that claim, and I'm town for it.
As mafia you can say anyone and literally that means lynch one of the 7 towns or my buddy not hard to do. Hardly clearing. I don't know about you robik. I want you to pick some people to kill,
Oh and banks, I like MM, so if I were to enjoy playing mafia (which let's be honest, you and andy are the only people who do that), I wouldn't mind being with him. I think he played well when he played Video with us.
On July 01 2014 10:14 IAmRobik wrote: I mean, if you decide to mislynch me for a lack of effort then that's your prerogative. I have promised effort moving forward and I will uphold my promise.
Lynching me is a bad strategy anyway, because I'm really really fucking good at portraying town and making myself obvious town. This will also occur sometime between n1 and d2.
Additionally, I have said the towniest thing in this game. There has been no one that has said something townier. That statement was that I would lynch ANYONE but myself today. Literally anyone. As long as we don't no-lynch and don't lynch me I'll be happy.
No one else has made that claim, and I'm town for it.
As mafia you can say anyone and literally that means lynch one of the 7 towns or my buddy not hard to do. Hardly clearing. I don't know about you robik. I want you to pick some people to kill,
I picked someone to kill. You don't agree with my choice. I'm cool killing ANYONE! LITERALLY. If I had a mafia partner, I'd be happy killing him too lol. I just want us to kill someone today so we don't have to no lynch against later in the game.
On July 01 2014 10:26 IAmRobik wrote: Oh and banks, I like MM, so if I were to enjoy playing mafia (which let's be honest, you and andy are the only people who do that), I wouldn't mind being with him. I think he played well when he played Video with us.
Being mafia is amazing Pope and Daniel like it too. You should just get better at mafia then you might like it more
On July 01 2014 10:14 IAmRobik wrote: I mean, if you decide to mislynch me for a lack of effort then that's your prerogative. I have promised effort moving forward and I will uphold my promise.
Lynching me is a bad strategy anyway, because I'm really really fucking good at portraying town and making myself obvious town. This will also occur sometime between n1 and d2.
Additionally, I have said the towniest thing in this game. There has been no one that has said something townier. That statement was that I would lynch ANYONE but myself today. Literally anyone. As long as we don't no-lynch and don't lynch me I'll be happy.
No one else has made that claim, and I'm town for it.
As mafia you can say anyone and literally that means lynch one of the 7 towns or my buddy not hard to do. Hardly clearing. I don't know about you robik. I want you to pick some people to kill,
I picked someone to kill. You don't agree with my choice. I'm cool killing ANYONE! LITERALLY. If I had a mafia partner, I'd be happy killing him too lol. I just want us to kill someone today so we don't have to no lynch against later in the game.
Agreed you did pick CR and no I don't like it lol.
Hmm give me someone you won't lynch! You can't choose me.
On July 01 2014 10:26 IAmRobik wrote: Oh and banks, I like MM, so if I were to enjoy playing mafia (which let's be honest, you and andy are the only people who do that), I wouldn't mind being with him. I think he played well when he played Video with us.
Being mafia is amazing Pope and Daniel like it too. You should just get better at mafia then you might like it more
On July 01 2014 10:14 IAmRobik wrote: I mean, if you decide to mislynch me for a lack of effort then that's your prerogative. I have promised effort moving forward and I will uphold my promise.
Lynching me is a bad strategy anyway, because I'm really really fucking good at portraying town and making myself obvious town. This will also occur sometime between n1 and d2.
Additionally, I have said the towniest thing in this game. There has been no one that has said something townier. That statement was that I would lynch ANYONE but myself today. Literally anyone. As long as we don't no-lynch and don't lynch me I'll be happy.
No one else has made that claim, and I'm town for it.
As mafia you can say anyone and literally that means lynch one of the 7 towns or my buddy not hard to do. Hardly clearing. I don't know about you robik. I want you to pick some people to kill,
I picked someone to kill. You don't agree with my choice. I'm cool killing ANYONE! LITERALLY. If I had a mafia partner, I'd be happy killing him too lol. I just want us to kill someone today so we don't have to no lynch against later in the game.
Agreed you did pick CR and no I don't like it lol.
Hmm give me someone you won't lynch! You can't choose me.
On July 01 2014 10:27 IAmRobik wrote: The voting thread says days ends in 7.5 hours, but that's like 5am eastern. That's nuts.
Awesome I'll be around for that about to leave work. Ill catch yall in an hour or two. CAn we all try to be on at like 10pm central so 1.5 horus to make a kill?
On July 01 2014 10:14 IAmRobik wrote: I mean, if you decide to mislynch me for a lack of effort then that's your prerogative. I have promised effort moving forward and I will uphold my promise.
Lynching me is a bad strategy anyway, because I'm really really fucking good at portraying town and making myself obvious town. This will also occur sometime between n1 and d2.
Additionally, I have said the towniest thing in this game. There has been no one that has said something townier. That statement was that I would lynch ANYONE but myself today. Literally anyone. As long as we don't no-lynch and don't lynch me I'll be happy.
No one else has made that claim, and I'm town for it.
As mafia you can say anyone and literally that means lynch one of the 7 towns or my buddy not hard to do. Hardly clearing. I don't know about you robik. I want you to pick some people to kill,
I picked someone to kill. You don't agree with my choice. I'm cool killing ANYONE! LITERALLY. If I had a mafia partner, I'd be happy killing him too lol. I just want us to kill someone today so we don't have to no lynch against later in the game.
Agreed you did pick CR and no I don't like it lol.
Hmm give me someone you won't lynch! You can't choose me.
I claimed that I wouldn't lynch snickers cause he was active, but fuck it, i'd lynch him too. i'd lynch slam, i'd lynch mm (prolly not mm cause he seems like a nice, soft dude and i wouldn't want to hurt his feelings). I don't remember who else is in the game, but I'd lynch those losers too
On July 01 2014 10:23 Chairman Ray wrote: I would like to vote Alakaslam
How can you like someone who says "I would like to vote alakslam"?
Are you shitting me. What does that even mean?!?!? That's support polite, not trying to step on anyone's toes, omg, i hope people don't hate me for trying to get slam lynched right now, bullshit that's not convincing or forceful and doesn't mean shit, even when combined with a vote.
Why didn't he say "i'm voting slam" or i'm going to fucking vote slam right now cause that dude is fucking scum and here's why
On July 01 2014 10:14 IAmRobik wrote: I mean, if you decide to mislynch me for a lack of effort then that's your prerogative. I have promised effort moving forward and I will uphold my promise.
Lynching me is a bad strategy anyway, because I'm really really fucking good at portraying town and making myself obvious town. This will also occur sometime between n1 and d2.
Additionally, I have said the towniest thing in this game. There has been no one that has said something townier. That statement was that I would lynch ANYONE but myself today. Literally anyone. As long as we don't no-lynch and don't lynch me I'll be happy.
No one else has made that claim, and I'm town for it.
As mafia you can say anyone and literally that means lynch one of the 7 towns or my buddy not hard to do. Hardly clearing. I don't know about you robik. I want you to pick some people to kill,
I picked someone to kill. You don't agree with my choice. I'm cool killing ANYONE! LITERALLY. If I had a mafia partner, I'd be happy killing him too lol. I just want us to kill someone today so we don't have to no lynch against later in the game.
Agreed you did pick CR and no I don't like it lol.
Hmm give me someone you won't lynch! You can't choose me.
I'd lynch the shit out of you too
Bullshit you would.
I would lynch you in a fucking heartbeat if I had the support.
On July 01 2014 10:23 Chairman Ray wrote: I would like to vote Alakaslam
How can you like someone who says "I would like to vote alakslam"?
Are you shitting me. What does that even mean?!?!? That's support polite, not trying to step on anyone's toes, omg, i hope people don't hate me for trying to get slam lynched right now, bullshit that's not convincing or forceful and doesn't mean shit, even when combined with a vote.
Why didn't he say "i'm voting slam" or i'm going to fucking vote slam right now cause that dude is fucking scum and here's why
I guess we have a different choice of words then. Do you agree with my case though? Can you support me in lynching him?
On July 01 2014 10:23 Chairman Ray wrote: I would like to vote Alakaslam
How can you like someone who says "I would like to vote alakslam"?
Are you shitting me. What does that even mean?!?!? That's support polite, not trying to step on anyone's toes, omg, i hope people don't hate me for trying to get slam lynched right now, bullshit that's not convincing or forceful and doesn't mean shit, even when combined with a vote.
Why didn't he say "i'm voting slam" or i'm going to fucking vote slam right now cause that dude is fucking scum and here's why
good luck convincing people in this matter. I tried last game, the entire game and no one listened to me. Your not going to be able to convince people when your making no sense day one and creating enemies.
Snickers, will you lay off? Implying that I am disinterested due to taking a fucking nap is completely ludicrous, when I am clearly one of the more active people in this game. You were already completely off the mark with this post so I'd appreciate if you'd just stop antagonizing me.
On July 01 2014 09:24 Chairman Ray wrote: Is your read on me because you think there's a lack of interaction between me and MM1? Do you have any other reasons for putting me on your lynch list?
On July 01 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote: That reasoning for why snickers is town is really fucking off and seems like CR is trying to pocket snickers
Well, I'm not trying to pocket anyone. The people I'm leaning town on are Snickers, SnB, and ET, and I would prefer they don't get lynched.
You basically just picked the most active people (minus Slam)... activity does not immediately = town
who do you want to lynch?
I didn't pick my 3 because they were active. I have other reasons for them and I'm not gonna make a case for them unless we're thinking about lynching them.
If I had to pick people to lynch, right now it would be between poofter and sinani. They have both been cruising by because nobody's on them, and there's no excuse to be this inactive when it's a 9 player game and barely anything is happening.
I also wouldn't mind lynching slam.
Your wording here is so. odd. "If I had to pick people to lynch"?
This is Mafia! If you're town then of course you want to pick people to lynch. That's how town wins the game. Why the "If I had to"? The way you worded that seems very reluctant, like you don't really believe in your reads at all. That's scummy to me.
I also feel like your case on Alakaslam is not good.
What I can gather is last people to vote are likely scum hoping they can hammer a townie
But they may know this so there is WIFOM
Think before hammer we have this luxury of time. For now, I think SNB has the right idea
snickers
Instead of posting why he's voting snickers, Alakaslam is pre-emptively defending his fast voting by saying that scum are more likely to vote last. A town would justify a vote after they are under pressure for it. This is very scummy to me.
But come forth ye sinister in thy chuckling, simply explain yourself.
When Blazinghand coached me as scum in a newbie game, he advised me to be a jerk
I was "whut"
He was "srs for example: tell (dude) to give his grandmother cunnilingus for he is nothing"
I was "whut"
He was "do it now"
I was "whut"
I lost.
Snickers being catty, a jerk. A snicker is a sinister, mocking chuckle. I ask that he explain his pointing out a post is weird without saying which one it was, a la SNB's pointer.
Now I will read this page y'all
At the time, the reason why SnB voted snickers was because Snickers said a post was weird without indicating which one. Snickers made a sarcastic remark, and Alakaslam pushed him for it with the reasoning that BH coached him saying that being a jerk is a good strategy as scum. This is a pretty far-fetched reason to scumread someone and feels very forced.
1st you criticize Slam's early vote. Despite this being an IML setup, that doesn't change the fact that votes done very early are clearly just pressure votes, also known as the random voting stage. Basing a case off of that is ridiculous.
2nd you criticize the same vote, disregarding that Slam has long laid off from his pressure.
On July 01 2014 10:23 Chairman Ray wrote: I would like to vote Alakaslam
How can you like someone who says "I would like to vote alakslam"?
Are you shitting me. What does that even mean?!?!? That's support polite, not trying to step on anyone's toes, omg, i hope people don't hate me for trying to get slam lynched right now, bullshit that's not convincing or forceful and doesn't mean shit, even when combined with a vote.
Why didn't he say "i'm voting slam" or i'm going to fucking vote slam right now cause that dude is fucking scum and here's why
good luck convincing people in this matter. I tried last game, the entire game and no one listened to me. Your not going to be able to convince people when your making no sense day one and creating enemies.
why are you talking to me like I'm confirmed town? You are voting me, so you think I'm scum, so unless you were scum that game trying to relate my attempt to lynch people to your attempt to lynch people, then you're making no sense.
On July 01 2014 11:15 EchelonTee wrote: Snickers, will you lay off? Implying that I am disinterested due to taking a fucking nap is completely ludicrous, when I am clearly one of the more active people in this game. You were already completely off the mark with this post so I'd appreciate if you'd just stop antagonizing me.
On July 01 2014 09:24 Chairman Ray wrote: Is your read on me because you think there's a lack of interaction between me and MM1? Do you have any other reasons for putting me on your lynch list?
On July 01 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote: That reasoning for why snickers is town is really fucking off and seems like CR is trying to pocket snickers
Well, I'm not trying to pocket anyone. The people I'm leaning town on are Snickers, SnB, and ET, and I would prefer they don't get lynched.
You basically just picked the most active people (minus Slam)... activity does not immediately = town
who do you want to lynch?
I didn't pick my 3 because they were active. I have other reasons for them and I'm not gonna make a case for them unless we're thinking about lynching them.
If I had to pick people to lynch, right now it would be between poofter and sinani. They have both been cruising by because nobody's on them, and there's no excuse to be this inactive when it's a 9 player game and barely anything is happening.
I also wouldn't mind lynching slam.
Your wording here is so. odd. "If I had to pick people to lynch"?
This is Mafia! If you're town then of course you want to pick people to lynch. That's how town wins the game. Why the "If I had to"? The way you worded that seems very reluctant, like you don't really believe in your reads at all. That's scummy to me.
I also feel like your case on Alakaslam is not good.
What I can gather is last people to vote are likely scum hoping they can hammer a townie
But they may know this so there is WIFOM
Think before hammer we have this luxury of time. For now, I think SNB has the right idea
snickers
Instead of posting why he's voting snickers, Alakaslam is pre-emptively defending his fast voting by saying that scum are more likely to vote last. A town would justify a vote after they are under pressure for it. This is very scummy to me.
But come forth ye sinister in thy chuckling, simply explain yourself.
When Blazinghand coached me as scum in a newbie game, he advised me to be a jerk
I was "whut"
He was "srs for example: tell (dude) to give his grandmother cunnilingus for he is nothing"
I was "whut"
He was "do it now"
I was "whut"
I lost.
Snickers being catty, a jerk. A snicker is a sinister, mocking chuckle. I ask that he explain his pointing out a post is weird without saying which one it was, a la SNB's pointer.
Now I will read this page y'all
At the time, the reason why SnB voted snickers was because Snickers said a post was weird without indicating which one. Snickers made a sarcastic remark, and Alakaslam pushed him for it with the reasoning that BH coached him saying that being a jerk is a good strategy as scum. This is a pretty far-fetched reason to scumread someone and feels very forced.
1st you criticize Slam's early vote. Despite this being an IML setup, that doesn't change the fact that votes done very early are clearly just pressure votes, also known as the random voting stage. Basing a case off of that is ridiculous.
2nd you criticize the same vote, disregarding that Slam has long laid off from his pressure.
It's just not a compelling case.
I was right in that post. How the hell am I suppose to not think you pulled it out of the air. The reason you gave made sense, but is something no one would of realized or been able to have guess. Sorry for being critical in a game that awards being critical. Jeez I was not saying you are scum for not giving a reason, I am wondering what your reason is. Putting pressure on people is the best way to get slips.
If you think I am scum then by all means put pressure on me. If you don't atm, then you're just wasting time.
Though I suppose I deserve some flames for that English comment. I'll save more thoughts on playstyle for post game but your response is good enough for me.
playin some doto and dont really feel like trying to convince people to lynch snickers, plus i'm not sure enough on him to justify killing one of the most active people
Ok here is my list of reads so far.(sans the loathed adjective.) I think posts of reads are beneficial. Et I need to look at him again (do not want anger blurring my vision). It is very weird that he said "hopefully" i will be back and then was back six hours before the lynch. What makes it even more weird, is that he was not being pressured by votes. Iamrobik- Town- He was suggesting he was not going to post today but has posted good info. Maybe he meant relatively. Slam-Town-nothing suspicious happening. He has had the same reasoning all game. StrongNbig- Slight scum- he replied to someone "but his content is scummy" instead of trying to convince the person of his case. Sinani Top scum read, has few posts, but why is that scummy? all of them were useless except for his the last one which is also the one he tacked a vote to. Very scummy to vote with your first actual post in the game. (StrongNBig was different because it was before things got developed). ChairmanRay-scum-He did not talk about voting people until questioned by Et. Then he has 2-3 times of saying unfitting words. MysteryMeat Slight scum- He has few posts, and also is wishy washy. tehpoofter Town-He drove some conversation. Nothing suspicious.
I am going to go chill with a friend for a little. Will be back in an hour or two. One thing I forgot to mention above was that Strong and Big listed five people who he thought was scummy, then said he would not vote for the remaining four. I thought it was weird that he said four and not three.
He's very lurky. He posts lists of reads but anyone can do that. The fact that he doesn't follow up on his reads is telling. Not around for these final debates. Could just be busy with RL but we just don't know
i'm just gonna give some gut reads from reading through the thread.
Top Town Robik
Town: ChairmanRay EchelonTee sinani
TopScum: StrongandBig
Scum: AlakaSlam thePoofter
nullreads on two randos who i don't know are in game.
Strange how he calls you and himself(??) two randos.
On June 30 2014 18:17 MysteryMeat1 wrote: honestly, my reads were just very gut feeling, and i only posted them so that we could get some discussion on the matter.
This post feels super reluctant.
Those posts are my reasoning. I have a strong gut feeling on the above post. That, plus the fact that he is lurky scummy makes me most happy with a lynch on him.
What I can gather is last people to vote are likely scum hoping they can hammer a townie
But they may know this so there is WIFOM
Think before hammer we have this luxury of time. For now, I think SNB has the right idea
snickers
Instead of posting why he's voting snickers, Alakaslam is pre-emptively defending his fast voting by saying that scum are more likely to vote last. A town would justify a vote after they are under pressure for it. This is very scummy to me.
But come forth ye sinister in thy chuckling, simply explain yourself.
When Blazinghand coached me as scum in a newbie game, he advised me to be a jerk
I was "whut"
He was "srs for example: tell (dude) to give his grandmother cunnilingus for he is nothing"
I was "whut"
He was "do it now"
I was "whut"
I lost.
Snickers being catty, a jerk. A snicker is a sinister, mocking chuckle. I ask that he explain his pointing out a post is weird without saying which one it was, a la SNB's pointer.
Now I will read this page y'all
At the time, the reason why SnB voted snickers was because Snickers said a post was weird without indicating which one. Snickers made a sarcastic remark, and Alakaslam pushed him for it with the reasoning that BH coached him saying that being a jerk is a good strategy as scum. This is a pretty far-fetched reason to scumread someone and feels very forced.
1st you criticize Slam's early vote. Despite this being an IML setup, that doesn't change the fact that votes done very early are clearly just pressure votes, also known as the random voting stage. Basing a case off of that is ridiculous.
2nd you criticize the same vote, disregarding that Slam has long laid off from his pressure.
It's just not a compelling case.
My criticism of Alakaslam was not because he early voted. It was because he pre-emptively explained why his vote wasn't scummy. That in itself is scummy to me.
Given that he recently unvoted on a wagon that had 3 on it, I'm going to re-evaluate my read on slam. It was a very towny thing to do.
Ok guys since most of us are in the U.S. We should change the deadline to a more doable hour. I will never be able to be awake 3 am to 5 am. It is most likely to late for this lynch, but the next lynch it is possible. I have no clue if I should be consolidating here on Mystery Meat. In four hours, will enough people switch to sinani? I also think it is probable that MysteryMeat will get killed for not voting.
Anyway here is my judgment call. Et seems very town to me with how he explained himself. I was thinking that the iml would be what I was overlooking but could not think of how. I have a slight scum read on MysterMeat and I think we all have agreed that is it better to risk a mislynch than to not lynch someone. I do not see how a no lynch would be preferable. Nobody has said that they would be back to consolidate so I am very clueless about how this will turn out. I am guessing slam and poofter will consolidate.
So not voting sinani but we all need to get on the same page, and if he does scummy stuff tomorrow, we need to deal with it. Does anyone else think that the only important post all day one with a vote attached to it is scummy?
Banks is prolly mafia for pushing an agenda that involves lynching me this game (but especially d1). He should know that we should be lynching someone today. In fact he should be adamant about the fact that no lynching is fucking disastrous for town. Instead he's trying to lynch me, someone who isn't likely to get lynched today (at least not if town wants any chance to win). Unfortunately, he may actually accomplish this because I'm going to sleep right now.
Having said that, I'm voting to lynch the shit out of banks. Everyone should follow along, because if successful, a mafia will die, and then I will be night killed and I can forget about this game forever.
Sincerely,
-I Am RubicktheMagus
##vote:Tehpoofter
CR may or may not be his partner. Hopefully everyone sees the light. I cannot provide you hard evidence that is going to blow your mind that what I'm saying is true, but it is. If everyone decides that they aren't prepared to lynch banks, then go ahead and lynch me. Lynching me (someone that maybe you have doubt on) is better than not lynching at all because we end up losing a lynch if we don't vote someone off today!
but yeah, don't lynch me cause i'm town and just follow me to victory by lynching the fuck out of scum!banks
Also, in case you decide to mislynch me, remember that tomorrow you should go ahead and elect a town mayor. Someone who town unanimously decides is town. That person should have a great say and final say in who gets lynched (after much deliberation). The reason for this is that town needs to unite and all vote to lynch people. It is pretty clear that we are incompetent and incapable of doing so without one, as it's 72hours into the game and there hasn't even been a semblance of a wagon on someone -- there also hasn't been a good case against ANYONE ---- not even mine really against poofter or CR
Lastly, this EOD sucks. I don't know who it's good for, but like it's the worst thing of all time. I thought EOD would be midnight eastern, but I was really fucking mistaken
Robik, you said you are okay lynching anybody besides yourself today, and you also just said that lynching someone is better than nobody. Why don't you vote on the sinani or mm wagon? There isn't enough people on to start a wagon on tehpoofter.
On July 01 2014 14:20 Chairman Ray wrote: Robik, you said you are okay lynching anybody besides yourself today, and you also just said that lynching someone is better than nobody. Why don't you vote on the sinani or mm wagon? There isn't enough people on to start a wagon on tehpoofter.
Qft
Robik you are voting no lynch right now. If you don't get on an actual lynch I will make it my mission to destroy you
The hours came to minutes, the minutes to seconds. And now each second was as long as all the time before. The flowering was so close now, so close. The dominion of five billion years before would be regained, and this time held. Only one thing was missing, and that was something quite unconnected with the humans' schemes. In the archive, deep in the recipes, there should have been a little bit more. In billions of years, something could be lost. The newborn felt all its powers of before, in potential ... yet there should be something more, something it had learned in its fall, or something left by its enemies (if there ever were such).
Long seconds probing the archives. There were gaps, checksums damaged. Some of the damage was age....
MysteryMeat1 the Hapless Crewmember has been lynched!
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I think Robik is a great check tonight. He omgused me which is NOT his play as town. mM was a town read of his. Robik you better blow my mind tomorrow if you're town
Mm wasnt even a townread for me. Wtf are you talking about. I said hes probably town because the push on him was baseless. I also saod the only reason I didnt want to lynch him was because hes simba and he was a nice dude whose feelings I didnt want to hirt.
On July 01 2014 21:59 roundabound wrote: Mm wasnt even a townread for me. Wtf are you talking about. I said hes probably town because the push on him was baseless. I also saod the only reason I didnt want to lynch him was because hes simba and he was a nice dude whose feelings I didnt want to hirt.
Phone posting sucks
Quoted for my filter. Didn't realize I was logged onto round from my phone
I have a lot to say about banks, and I'll do that at some time today, but I'll preface everything by saying that this is banks' mafia game. I omgus'd him because he should know better than to lynch me d1. He's misportraying what I said, and you guys don't know him as well as I do, but much of what he is saying is 100% not in his town range.
1) he would have been pushing to get a lynch yesterday. 2) I stated very clearly who I'd lynch yesterday (him and CR). 3) I only stated that I wouldn't lynch MM because of what I said above. Him claiming otherwise is a lie
AND
4) What he is doing by telling the cop to check me is 100% a role fish. Banks is fucking mafia.
That's kinda the gist of what I wanted to say. I don't know if I"ll go in depth about it, but I will analyze d1 sometime soon.
Useless post looking like participating (might be confirmation bias):
On June 28 2014 18:20 Chairman Ray wrote: In this format, does the day instantly end once a majority vote has been established?
I don't get particularly good vibes from this post. The confirmed part feels out of place. Also, why "claiming town" instead of "i'm town":
On June 28 2014 21:42 sinani206 wrote: confirmed, claiming town
ET, please explain your use of the winky-face emoticon here. It doesn't work and feels forced:
On June 29 2014 01:03 EchelonTee wrote: hallo
instant majority is pretty uncommon here, not going to find many who have played it much. I think you should think for yourself rather than parrot others Alakaslam
SnB's first and third post are useless and scummy. His second post is interesting to look at though. I don't know if it's RVS or just voting someone for really really poor reasoning:
On June 29 2014 02:22 IAmRobik wrote: (I'm trying to draw a nk from mafia, thinking that I'm a PR when I'm actually just VT)
sick plan bro. let's tell everyone so it doesn't work
or will it? WIFOM FTW
what is the point of saying this? -.-
I just finished the first two pages and snickers looks like fucking shit. His posts are terrible and useless and they all sound forced and convoluted. I can post more examples than the ones i've already posted if needed. He very abruptly changes his tone in every post -- from sarcastic to serious. When I was pre-planning posts as mafia in Order, I would oftentimes find myself doing the same thing.
Echelon Tree actually seems engaged and asking questions to help himself solve the game. I'm willing to give him a pass so far (will do pages 4-5 and beyond when I can)
Is Snickers a smurf? How does he know this? I had BH as a coach for me before and he never gave me this advice..... I read this post and have 0 feelings about it. It says nothing with a lot of words. It's active without being active. He also does that mafia thing (which ritoky is so keen to point out usually) or just responding to peoples' questions line for line, question after question as if it's a homework assignment.
On June 29 2014 08:24 Snickers wrote: I think the bh scum advice is to make jokes about a topic when someone call you scum. He is not being cryptic it is more of a "let me be overly complicated with my posts because I like to look awesome!". Its annoying just because its so forced and it is also annoying because it is scummy in a way but not so scummy people actually vote for them. So they just cause unneeded confusion all game. Personally I think it should count as playing against your win condition when your town. Being confusing to look cool is just a hassle.
Also ET I do not see how it is excessively negative, I could maybe see negative. I was joking first off. Yes there will be bad players in this game (my second game, first has not even ended but I am dead). If you could not see the only weird post above mine and I had to point it out for you...... hopefully this is your first game.... but wait that would be breaking the rules unless you talked to bh.... oh wait how many people actually read the rules...
As far as IML its instant majority lynch that means that if somebody else hoped into this thread and voted for me, then both mafia players voted for me, it would then probably be 5 town vs 2 mafia. It is also bad because we want to wait as close to 72 hours as possible before lynch.
I do no think its in vogue. But why are you not complaining about slam being constructive? He does not explain a term but I have to quote..... already we are divided.
There's nothing particularly towny about this post, but the tone of it reads so fucking genuine that I'd be surprised if a mafia cared so much and so strongly about someone bashing townies: I
On June 29 2014 08:24 Snickers wrote: Also ET I do not see how it is excessively negative, I could maybe see negative. I was joking first off. Yes there will be bad players in this game (my second game, first has not even ended but I am dead). If you could not see the only weird post above mine and I had to point it out for you...... hopefully this is your first game.... but wait that would be breaking the rules unless you talked to bh.... oh wait how many people actually read the rules...
If you were joking then w.e, I just think it is excessively negative to tell someone to let themself be modkilled if they don't see the thread in the exact same way that you do. Calling everyone bad who doesn't see eye to eye with you is both 1. not conducive to good town environment 2. douchey. but since you were joking, w.e. There are people who aren't joking when they say things like "god you are so fn terrible town would be better if you suicided", etc.
Simply put, I don't like how people often bash town, and in a game like this we are in the best position to subvert that to town advantage. I'm not trying to exclusively single you out, but it is a common thread in most mafia games. Yeah, in most games there are often townie lurkers. Yeah there are often townies who don't explain themself at all. But unlike 30man games where those kinds of things are nearly unavoidable, this is a 9 man game. There aren't many places for scum to hide. So, if we foster an environment where people feel at ease talking discussing sharing reads, it puts a lot more pressure on scum to act, perform.
I do no think its in vogue. But why are you not complaining about slam being constructive? He does not explain a term but I have to quote..... already we are divided.
Are you sure, I am not complaining about slam? pls read thread bettr lul
On July 01 2014 10:26 IAmRobik wrote: Oh and banks, I like MM, so if I were to enjoy playing mafia (which let's be honest, you and andy are the only people who do that), I wouldn't mind being with him. I think he played well when he played Video with us.
Being mafia is amazing Pope, fish slam, and Daniel like it too. You should just get better at mafia then you might like it more
Notice how I said "I think" people really miss some big things.
I like pointing things out. I guess you think it is useless. I see multiple good things in that paragraph. Even if that paragraph is useless, you are responding to it. It is creating more talk.
On June 30 2014 05:19 Alakaslam wrote: Now defense thyself. Why is your list post not bs and evidence that you are scum with snicker?
On June 30 2014 05:31 Snickers wrote: Slam stop throwing votes left and right. If u think someone is scum just bold it in this thread. Votes matter at all times, more than just letting people know who you want to lynch in x hours.
Also HMMMMM I wonder why he did not explain his reads. Maybe because when somebody goes into detail, people bitch about the length of it. (this happens across multiple games) Why do you not ask him about why he thinks x is scum or why y is town rather than telling him to explain why he is not scum because what he did is considering scummy by you. Asking him to go into detail about his reads will give more info than.... prove that you are not scum.
And I made a mistake. Thought kush was in this game.
Also the above post from snickers has more tonality changes from serious to sarcastic to serious I'm reminded as well that SnB is also not mafia with snickers if snickers is maf
This is a really weird/soft push of snickers. Can possibly see them as scum buddies (prolly more confirmation bias):
On June 30 2014 06:48 EchelonTee wrote: Chairman, I'm curious what you think about MysteryMeat (MM)'s list. Specifically his town read on you
Similar impressions as me. He didn't include Snickers, who is the most active player so far. I would personally slot Snickers under slightly scummy just because he's taking some little things a bit too serious.
This post is kinda towny from snickers, but I don't know why:
On June 30 2014 06:48 EchelonTee wrote: Chairman, I'm curious what you think about MysteryMeat (MM)'s list. Specifically his town read on you
Similar impressions as me. He didn't include Snickers, who is the most active player so far. I would personally slot Snickers under slightly scummy just because he's taking some little things a bit too serious.
I think you should be more concerned with that he kept me off his list. It seems like you were but then you got distracted.
Meh look at my meta, I am the most misunderstood mafia player on tl after Bh. I do not go crazy like some people (2 people in this game want to mislead), My "seriousness" is that I am playing to keep stuff organized and clear.
Someone wanted to know my read on Slam.
Slam-bad town (throwing quick votes around and Some post above this one was weird) StrongNBig-bad town (Throwing quick votes around and only having one post to look at) Et-bad town (already is super confused with my posts so he hinks he is right and I am wrong)
Do not get offended if you are on that list. I have a small sample size of posts. This is also why I do not read anyone as scum yet. Way too few posts and usually you need to link posts to prior posts.
After finishing page 5, I have mixed feelings on Snickers. Some of the stuff he's doing is highly scummy, but posts like the above, and then again this one, make me lean town on him:
On June 30 2014 11:30 Snickers wrote: When I say "bad town" I mean that this person does not think clearly. He is trying his best, but is just bad at the game. Usually you cannot convince them to vote with you, when you think someone is almost 100% mafia so you have to trick them into voting with you. So like my last game, I tried to trick the town players into voting a person I thought was scum by using "rules" that they highly respected.(I was town) But the mafia played them hard.
I mean, it's possible that he could say this as mafia...it's actually a line that I take quite often "EVERYONE IS SO FUCKING BAD JUST LISTEN TO ME YOU FUCKING SCRUBS," but I guess I also take it as town. I think I use it more often as mafia? I dunno. But like. He sounds so damn genuine in what he's saying. It comes down to if he really believes he's better than the rest of us (LOL if he does)
On July 02 2014 02:16 Snickers wrote: Notice how I said "I think" people really miss some big things.
I like pointing things out. I guess you think it is useless. I see multiple good things in that paragraph. Even if that paragraph is useless, you are responding to it. It is creating more talk.
You can't say "my post wasn't pointless because people are bringing it up 10 pages later." Your post was pointless because it didn't fucking say anything.
Did you ever explain your read on the end of page 5 where you said "someone already did something weird and possibly scummy and i'll bring it up tomorrow?" Was that in reference to the post you quoted of me saying that I'm trying to draw a nk?
Shit Iamrobik be careful with what you are writing. Everyone already went batshit crazy on me. I never called everyone bad or labeled everyone as bad. I guess that is why you took the "I think" wrongly. I choose words carefully.
On July 02 2014 02:16 Snickers wrote: Notice how I said "I think" people really miss some big things.
I like pointing things out. I guess you think it is useless. I see multiple good things in that paragraph. Even if that paragraph is useless, you are responding to it. It is creating more talk.
You can't say "my post wasn't pointless because people are bringing it up 10 pages later." Your post was pointless because it didn't fucking say anything.
Did you ever explain your read on the end of page 5 where you said "someone already did something weird and possibly scummy and i'll bring it up tomorrow?" Was that in reference to the post you quoted of me saying that I'm trying to draw a nk?
Yes it was ET. What happened was he did something that I could find no motive for it. He said it was because the two players played mafia before or something.(I do not understand how people who have played this game longer do not see these things) And yea If a post is making people talk it has a point. Especially early game. But still you really cannot see the points in that post. I do not have in it in front of me but paragraph three was were I showing what the voting does here versus regular.
IDGAF about people going batshit crazy on me for calling them bad. Everyone knows that I think I'm the best player around and that I'm a BM fucking asshole. So if anyone cries about it, I'll just laugh in their face
Damn why is that people never understand my posts. No I meant do not even suggest that I think I am better than everyone else. I do not want batshit on my face.
Anyway your posts look weird to me initially, I do not have time to read them in depth.
Paragraph 1: Explanation of BH scum advice and that you think it's annoying Paragraph 2: Explanation of how ET shouldn't find your post excessively negative Paragraph 3: Discussion of IML and how people shouldn't vote cause mafia can late-vote to hammer if it gets close Paragraph 4: More talk about how being BM is trendy
On July 02 2014 02:29 IAmRobik wrote: Your confusing multiple posts.
Summarizing your post:
Paragraph 1: Explanation of BH scum advice and that you think it's annoying Paragraph 2: Explanation of how ET shouldn't find your post excessively negative Paragraph 3: Discussion of IML and how people shouldn't vote cause mafia can late-vote to hammer if it gets close Paragraph 4: More talk about how being BM is trendy
Please tell me how that post is useful AT ALL.
I am not showing you anything until you read the post clearly.
Paragraph 1. I had no fucking clue what the "bh scum advice" was so you are off. Paragraph 2. Ok at least you understand this one a bit. I also talked about my experience and also commented how people do not read the rules. What do you mean by not useful? Not pushing somebody? This was early in the game posts like this generate discussion. Paragraph 3. I talked about Iml but never about that second part. Paragraph 4. I said bm is not trendy.
So multiple times you messed up reading a simple post that I tried to write clearly. Now I know why you are so wishy washy on me. You do not even understand me.
You're right about part 4. you said it wasn't trendy, but you did say the thing in paragraph 3:
"if somebody else hoped into this thread and voted for me, then both mafia players voted for me, it would then probably be 5 town vs 2 mafia."
You also said the thing in paragraph 1 explaining what the BH thing is, even if it's just what you perceive the BH thing is. Not sure why that changes anything. It's still fucking useless
Part 2 is also fucking uselses
your whole post is useless
you're not giving reads you're not asking questions you're not doing anything in it other than just posting words that don't say anything.
I can post all game long about what and how we should play and what would be ideal, but that's all fluff. Anything but giving reads, analyzing situations, asking questions to progress the thread is useless. You didn't do anything to progress the thread, hence your post was useless. This isn't something you can even argue. It's a fact.
Well I have to go but I will might be around at 8:30 eastern and around 10.
I still do not see how it is useless. I think it has value in every piece. Every post has some value as long as its not like sinanis first few. If you really think it has no value, I am preatty sure no one else mentioend to not vote someone very quick, and wait towards the deadline. I could easily see people making that mistake since not much iml experience.
And I would argue agaisnt your last points. Asking question? I was anwsering questions. It would be pointless to ask questions if no one anwsered them. You could make just as effective posts with regular sentences. Also I do not like posting reads in the early game, I think it blurs people vision. I much rather get people talking. I also want to hear people without someone else pushing them hard.
Saying not to vote someone early isnt' content and doesn't provide value and doesn't move the thread forward. It's a statement that anyone can make because it doesn't fucking say anything. How are you not grasping this concept? It's like all the fucking talk about whether the vigi should shoot or not in Champions game 3 or 4, whichever one mattchew was in. All those posts were stupid posts about how to play the game and didn't give anything in terms of people's alignments or anything. THE POST IS USELESS. STOP DEFENDING YOURSELF ABOUT IT AND JUST DON'T DO IT NEXT TIME.
As for not giving reads in early game: How would you like to play the game then early game? How are you going to get someone lynched if you don't give reads? How are you going to get reads if you don't give reads or ask questions? You think you'll get reads by saying "no one should vote early" CAUSE I GUARANTEE YOU YOU WON'T.
In fact, I will argue that what you said regarding point 3 of your useless point is actually wrong! Cause mafia is almost certainly not brazen enough to hop on and mislynch a townie on d1 within 12 hours of the game starting. SO, not only is your post useless, but it's also wrong.
Yea I am done with this conversation it is not going anywhere. You pull up this game that I have no clue of and act like its something that is common knowledge. You contradicted yourself. You said questions were good but are acting like answers are useless.
Yea and my third point is right. A not so bright townie could come in the thread and do that. Then people would probably freak and mislynch him the next day.
On July 02 2014 03:23 Snickers wrote: Yea and my third point is right. A not so bright townie could come in the thread and do that. Then people would probably freak and mislynch him the next day.
WHAT?!?!? You're the one who is contradicting yourself! You said that mafia would hammer, and now you're saying that a dumb towny would hammer. Make up your mind. Which one is it? Your ponit is wrong. The person who' is bad at this game who you are referring to in all of your posts is yourself and I should have just listened to SnB yesterady when he wanted to lynch the fuck out ofy ou.
Refer back to my post where I said you do not even understand my posts. I hope everyone goes batshit on you for calling people bad without a reason to help the game.
Saying that I can't read isn't gonna win you an argument. Anyone who reads what you wrote will come to the same conclusion. If you want to apologize for not saying what you actually meant, then that's one thing, but saying I'm misinterpreting or misunderstanding what you wrote is a huge fallacy.
Whatever, SnB and I will get you lynched tomorrow. No skin off my back. Feel free to ignore me for the rest of the game and continue making useless posts.
Wow very mature. Talk shit then dismiss. Hopefully when you come back to the thread you will have chilled the fuck out. It is really simple. My post was answering people. You then say questions push the game forward. Questions are practically useless without answers. This is one of those things were you are so emotional you do not even believe what you are typing at this point. You are just reading me as scum at this point.
How are you still harping on my statement that questions are important. I'm saying to figure out the game you gotta ask questions. The answers you gave fucking sucked and were useless and don't say anything with regards to how you feel about the game. Stop being butthurt about your bad play and fix it
On July 02 2014 04:01 Snickers wrote: Wow very mature. Talk shit then dismiss. Hopefully when you come back to the thread you will have chilled the fuck out. It is really simple. My post was answering people. You then say questions push the game forward. Questions are practically useless without answers. This is one of those things were you are so emotional you do not even believe what you are typing at this point. You are just reading me as scum at this point.
No, at this point I'm just arguing with you because I'm trying to drive a point into your pea-sized brain. You refuse to live in a world where you are wrong. But you are wrong in this case so I really really need to work extra hard to make you feel so bad about yourself that you might actually accept how wrong you are from a veteran of forum mafia.
On July 02 2014 03:56 IAmRobik wrote: Saying that I can't read isn't gonna win you an argument. Anyone who reads what you wrote will come to the same conclusion. If you want to apologize for not saying what you actually meant, then that's one thing, but saying I'm misinterpreting or misunderstanding what you wrote is a huge fallacy.
Whatever, SnB and I will get you lynched tomorrow. No skin off my back. Feel free to ignore me for the rest of the game and continue making useless posts.
Bye!
Sentence by Sentence.
1.Never sad you cant read. Saying you do not understand me is me being sincere. While saying you cannot read is rude. 2.Ok then you asssume something. 3.More assuming. You use the word fallacy like you have not made this whole post out of fallacies. This is where i think you need to go chill the fuck out. 4.A threat? I do not see the point in this. 5.Ok? 6.No point to this either.
On July 02 2014 04:01 Snickers wrote: Wow very mature. Talk shit then dismiss. Hopefully when you come back to the thread you will have chilled the fuck out. It is really simple. My post was answering people. You then say questions push the game forward. Questions are practically useless without answers. This is one of those things were you are so emotional you do not even believe what you are typing at this point. You are just reading me as scum at this point.
No, at this point I'm just arguing with you because I'm trying to drive a point into your pea-sized brain. You refuse to live in a world where you are wrong. But you are wrong in this case so I really really need to work extra hard to make you feel so bad about yourself that you might actually accept how wrong you are from a veteran of forum mafia.
Oh really I admited I was wrong at the post at the top of this page. And all the "veteran" players in my last game sucked so good luck convincing me there. And yelling to someone is not how you prove a point to them.
If you were actually a veteran player you would logically think... I think this guy is mafia.... He is going to be misleading to me.... but you are getting so angry and emotional. Like I said, you do not even think I am mafia.
You're right. I don't know your alignment. I just think you're an idiot. The problem is determining if you're an idiot who is lying as mafia or an idiot who is so dumb that he believes what he's saying is true
I created a quote for you. And I do not see how its good for you to say I am right about something then proceed to call me and idiot. I knew a fact about you better than you did. Stop being so emotional.
On July 02 2014 04:29 Snickers wrote: I created a quote for you. And I do not see how its good for you to say I am right about something then proceed to call me and idiot. I knew a fact about you better than you did. Stop being so emotional.
YOU ARE WRONG
I don't understand why you keep posting stuff that doesn't pertain to you being wrong. I know how I'm feeling, what I'm thinking and why I'm doing and saying what I'm doing and saying.
I am still referring to your post and you are referring to stuff that's happened since then.
Whatever. I'm done shitting up the thread. IML is nice cause I won't have to deal with you much longer, whether you're scum or not.
On July 02 2014 07:24 IAmRobik wrote: when does voting start? I'm ready to maj lynch
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On the small chance that I get killed (unlikely IMO since I was wrong on MM) I'll post quick quick thoughts
my initial read on sinani was town because he is always super lurky; i thoght his early activity was more townie than usual, but since he faded off hard maybe i was wrong
Im not sure on SnB. kind of suspicious tbh how he folded in to MM
Slam I think is town.
I would prolly look more at robik or tehpoof tomorrow
Outside, the container ship and the frigate lifted from the landing field, rising on silent agravs above the plains of gray on gray, of ruins five billion years old. Almost half of the humans were aboard those craft. Their escape attempt, so carefully concealed. The effort had been humored till now: it was not quite time for the flowering, and the humans were still of some use.
Below the level of supreme consciousness, its paranoid inclinations rampaged through the humans' databases. Checking, just to be sure. Just to be sure. The humans' oldest local network used light speed connections. Thousands of microseconds were spent (wasted) bouncing around it, sorting the trivia... finally spotting one incredible item:
Inventory: quantum data container, quantity (1), loaded to the frigate one hundred hours before!
IAmRobik the Hapless Crewmember has been shot!
Welcome to Day 2. With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. If no majority is reached in 72 hours, by Saturday, Jul 05 7:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) the day will end in a no-lynch.
Live ticker: remain.
Remember, the voting thread is located here: (link). Only votes made in that thread count.
well I didn't expect that all. he had direct pressure from tehpoof and some pressure from snickers. so he could've been mislynch bait today. My first instinct is that it's a strange shot. I don't think anyone considered him towniest townsman in the slightest.
Could've been blue sniping, but I don't think so, his play didn't scream blue to me at least
That leaves two scenarios in my eyes: 1. Robik's reads were dangerous for mafia, or 2. killing him sets up other people to look bad. Kind of WIFOM-y to figure out which is true but I'm going to look through his filter more carefully
by Robik During the day, he was first mainly on Chairman Ray. That seems to be his strongest read. He was oh Tehpoofter for a bit but that seemed mainly OMGUS. Not sure on that.
In the night he goes on snickers hard. He seems to primarily advocate a snickers + CR team.
I'll think about this more but it looks like we have another long day cycle ahead of us. I'm primarily curious how Tehpoof thinks about all this since he seemed pretty confident Robik was mafia.
Saying this before people go on the "witchhunt" aka go crazy for one person and waste the entire day.
Iamrobik was not going hard for me et. There is the long reasoning, but here is the short. He said "rip robik" which implies that he thinks he is going to die. He talks about wanting to lynch me today. Never posts a case. It is complicated as shit though. He lost his mind, especially when he did not use mod font, then he posted with the maturity of a four year old.
by Robik During the day, he was first mainly on Chairman Ray. That seems to be his strongest read. He was oh Tehpoofter for a bit but that seemed mainly OMGUS. Not sure on that.
In the night he goes on snickers hard. He seems to primarily advocate a snickers + CR team.
I'll think about this more but it looks like we have another long day cycle ahead of us. I'm primarily curious how Tehpoof thinks about all this since he seemed pretty confident Robik was mafia.
This felt like robiks role or mafia play to me I've literally never seen him Play VT like this. Anytime he doesn't claim a role or doesn't give a shit ton of town reads early thats like his classic tells. I called him mafia because a) He likely was mafia b) If hes a role he won't get killed because people will think I'm going to push him. Notice I never voted him because of the option "b". I also made this post:
On July 01 2014 13:37 Tehpoofter wrote: Gonna watch a movie then I'll make a vote sinani why shouldn't we kill u
Cause I wanted to kill sinani but was late getting done with my movie.
ET coming out with that pretty quick. Anyone that has played with ET before does he usually put this must stock into the night kill? (You might be right tbh but I don't know your meta) Going to catch up reading what I missed at night. But around to chat.
That means 2 mislynches, or a mislynch and vig on town, we lose
Sinani has been pretty much afk this game. Doesn't make sense for him to sign up for a game, especially with 9 players, and not do anything.
From day 1, I find Snickers the most suspicious. I was initially reading him as eager town just because he was trying to be very detailed and drawing conclusions from very small and meaningless things. But then he votes Robik, and this was his reasoning:
On July 01 2014 06:52 Snickers wrote: Well I am still at school so cannot post much. I am voting robik. He shows lack of interest in the game and is very willing to hop onto somebody that is already being voted without his own reason. He is talking about people afking but shit, he is practicality afking by posting such ambiguous stuff. Also mm is looking a lot more like bad town. Cannot quote because I am on phone. He wants to maybe lynch me because I'm a jerk. I think slam is a jerk but I am not going to vote him for only this reason. I would only vote him if I had an equal town read on Everyone which is close to impossible.Will clear up the other stuff in a few hours.
Do not be offended by the good town/bad town. Good scum/bad scum thing. I like people to know what I am thinking. Saying someone is town is way to vague. Just think how differently scum and town play, so do good and bad players. A bad town could look "more scummy" than a good scum.
Firstly, his reasoning doesn't make sense and isn't consistent with this play. Robik said on many occasions that he was busy and won't really be playing the first day, and just wants to lynch anybody. That explains perfectly why Robik doesn't seem too interested in the game and is willing to hop onto votes. Snickers is super active and should be aware of this. Even if Snickers missed, he has been looking really deeply into a lot of things, but his excuse for voting Robik is extremely shallow.
A while later, Robik is suddenly Snickers' town read
On July 01 2014 11:41 Snickers wrote: Ok here is my list of reads so far.(sans the loathed adjective.) I think posts of reads are beneficial. Et I need to look at him again (do not want anger blurring my vision). It is very weird that he said "hopefully" i will be back and then was back six hours before the lynch. What makes it even more weird, is that he was not being pressured by votes. Iamrobik- Town- He was suggesting he was not going to post today but has posted good info. Maybe he meant relatively. Slam-Town-nothing suspicious happening. He has had the same reasoning all game. StrongNbig- Slight scum- he replied to someone "but his content is scummy" instead of trying to convince the person of his case. Sinani Top scum read, has few posts, but why is that scummy? all of them were useless except for his the last one which is also the one he tacked a vote to. Very scummy to vote with your first actual post in the game. (StrongNBig was different because it was before things got developed). ChairmanRay-scum-He did not talk about voting people until questioned by Et. Then he has 2-3 times of saying unfitting words. MysteryMeat Slight scum- He has few posts, and also is wishy washy. tehpoofter Town-He drove some conversation. Nothing suspicious.
Snickers says that Robik is town because he has been posting good info. I invite you all to look through Robik's filter between Snickers' scumread on Robik and Snickers' townread. Robik made no cases within that period, and the only thing he talked about is that he's willing to lynch anybody else. That's exactly why Snickers scumread him in the first place. What "good info" is Snickers even referring to? I think Snickers is just trying to pocket Robik.
Lastly, the nightkill on Robik makes sense if Snickers is mafia. The first vote that Snickers does on Robik doesn't show compelling reasons why Snickers thinks Robik is scum. I think Snickers just wants Robik dead. Later on he puts Robik as a town read and I can't find the reason why. If Snickers has already decided to nk Robik, this makes sense.
I'll be okay with lynching Snickers today, but right now, I think Sinani needs to start playing.
Snickers: Alakaslam sinani206: Chairman Ray Not Voting (5): Everyone else.
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I think so too the Robik death is weird thoguh I may need to reevaluate. Cause I don't think others would role read robik because I have lots of Video Mafia meta for him. So probably a reads/being townie kill.
Robik being killed over et is a little weird, since et was much more active and organizey.
Why would robik die? IMO either cause he was pushing a scum lynch, or because someone thought the same as poof and tried to bluesnipe him. Either way, this points to poof. Keep it simple points at poof.
I still have the same read on snickers' emotions as I did yesterday. I'd still be okay with lynching him. But I think robick's case on poof needs much attention
Its weird that you bring that up. In kurami's mini mafia I think I have the same "emotion" you are bringing up. Not completly sure what you are talking about. But that is a really bad way to scum hunt. What if sinani and slam are scum. If we excuse them becuase they play scummy even when they are town we would lose.(I think one of towns job is to make yourself look not scummy) Your looking more scummy to me. I read you as town last night. ET is top town and sinani is top scum. Still not sure on SNB even though I mentioned he is looking more scummy.
Also the last game I played, the experienced town players looked at mislynch filters rather than nk's filters. (so what are we suppose to do?)Something that did happen was scum popped in and suggested something to talk about day 2. SLam is looking scummy to me now that he votes me with his new idea that I am always negative then someone asks him about it and he says he looks scummy, and remember that people think (and are going to think) IamRobik was pushing me hard. So if this is actually useful(If nks actually mean something), I am thinking slam killed robik to frame me. It also makess sense because I got haters from day one post one.
I'm finding it really hard to see anything at all this game. I've been keeping up with the thread, but not really finding anything. I don't even know what to talk about. Don't know why CR is voting me after he made a case on Snickers. But I don't like Snickers as a lynch anyway. Maybe poofter would be good.
On July 01 2014 08:13 strongandbig wrote: ok so there's like 9 hours left. given time zone disparities it makes sense imo to start actually trying to consolidate on a lynch now.
I will lynch the following people, in order of preference:
On July 01 2014 10:14 IAmRobik wrote: I mean, if you decide to mislynch me for a lack of effort then that's your prerogative. I have promised effort moving forward and I will uphold my promise.
Lynching me is a bad strategy anyway, because I'm really really fucking good at portraying town and making myself obvious town. This will also occur sometime between n1 and d2.
Additionally, I have said the towniest thing in this game. There has been no one that has said something townier. That statement was that I would lynch ANYONE but myself today. Literally anyone. As long as we don't no-lynch and don't lynch me I'll be happy.
No one else has made that claim, and I'm town for it.
As mafia you can say anyone and literally that means lynch one of the 7 towns or my buddy not hard to do. Hardly clearing. I don't know about you robik. I want you to pick some people to kill,
On July 01 2014 12:21 EchelonTee wrote: hm maybe I misunderstood what you said
where are you tehpoof? it's been 1.5 hrs
I'm back for a couple minutes
Let's kill Robik that guy is mafia
I could also kill someOne like sinani or slam
still pushing robik
idk thats really all he did. basically saying robik was scum without really explaining it or defending it. i'll defend my read on poof if you guys try to convince me otherwise. you might even change my mind. thats the difference between town and mafia.
Let the khala unite us all and cause us to speak, for we have been silent too long such that sinani can get nothing and snickers continues to talk about everyone else having a hyperactive sensitivity to everything he does (in essence) and in being misinterpreted, misinterperets; yet rejects the way of CHUPAZI.
What else is new? Such is the task of ye all to create, bring forth the khala
Sinani you quoted my posts did you read the one where I explained I thought robik was a role or mafia. I wanted him to look scummy so he lived through the night and also have some pressure on him in case I died because I wasn't sure which one it was.
In the 2nd part of your big post you also say its weird that I was asking robik for his kill because we were trying to decide who to consolidate on and up to that point he had only said "Anyone but me" I wanted to force him to pick someone.
I am really not sure where to go this game its just a bunch of lurking going on. Slam being hte most active is like a sign that were in trouble. I would kill one of robik's reads today or ET.
On teh subject of ET did anyone ever say if his meta is heavily looking into night kills? His post at the start makes it seem like that but if its not could be mafia trying to setup a couple MLs. If he plays like this as town would be a good way to have someone that is fairly townie to look for to guide us.
On July 04 2014 05:38 Tehpoofter wrote: Sinani you quoted my posts did you read the one where I explained I thought robik was a role or mafia. I wanted him to look scummy so he lived through the night and also have some pressure on him in case I died because I wasn't sure which one it was.
In the 2nd part of your big post you also say its weird that I was asking robik for his kill because we were trying to decide who to consolidate on and up to that point he had only said "Anyone but me" I wanted to force him to pick someone.
I am really not sure where to go this game its just a bunch of lurking going on. Slam being the most active is a harbinger of deathly doom upon us as a town! Beware... I would kill one of robik's reads today or ET.
On July 04 2014 05:38 Tehpoofter wrote: Sinani you quoted my posts did you read the one where I explained I thought robik was a role or mafia. I wanted him to look scummy so he lived through the night and also have some pressure on him in case I died because I wasn't sure which one it was.
In the 2nd part of your big post you also say its weird that I was asking robik for his kill because we were trying to decide who to consolidate on and up to that point he had only said "Anyone but me" I wanted to force him to pick someone.
I am really not sure where to go this game its just a bunch of lurking going on. Slam being the most active is a harbinger of deathly doom upon us as a town! Beware... I would kill one of robik's reads today or ET.
On July 04 2014 05:42 Tehpoofter wrote: On teh subject of ET did anyone ever say if his meta is heavily looking into night kills? His post at the start makes it seem like that but if its not could be mafia trying to setup a couple MLs. If he plays like this as town would be a good way to have someone that is fairly townie to look for to guide us.
I looked through ET's previous games, and I couldn't find him looking heavily into night kills. However one difference between those games and this one is that ET likes to analyze people's meta referencing previous games. He hasn't done that this game, but I don't know if he's played with any of us enough to have meta on us. Has anyone played a lot with ET before?
On July 04 2014 05:42 Tehpoofter wrote: On teh subject of ET did anyone ever say if his meta is heavily looking into night kills? His post at the start makes it seem like that but if its not could be mafia trying to setup a couple MLs. If he plays like this as town would be a good way to have someone that is fairly townie to look for to guide us.
I looked through ET's previous games, and I couldn't find him looking heavily into night kills. However one difference between those games and this one is that ET likes to analyze people's meta referencing previous games. He hasn't done that this game, but I don't know if he's played with any of us enough to have meta on us. Has anyone played a lot with ET before?
this meta argument has no value when taking the inactivity of this game into consideration
On July 04 2014 05:42 Tehpoofter wrote: On teh subject of ET did anyone ever say if his meta is heavily looking into night kills? His post at the start makes it seem like that but if its not could be mafia trying to setup a couple MLs. If he plays like this as town would be a good way to have someone that is fairly townie to look for to guide us.
I looked through ET's previous games, and I couldn't find him looking heavily into night kills. However one difference between those games and this one is that ET likes to analyze people's meta referencing previous games. He hasn't done that this game, but I don't know if he's played with any of us enough to have meta on us. Has anyone played a lot with ET before?
this meta argument has no value when taking the inactivity of this game into consideration
i agree meta on style in a game with less than 10 pages is a joke. This game is so slow its unreal.
Good point. There really isn't much else to go off though. Half the players were playing on day 1, and now the other half are playing. I'm fine with just lynching Snickers if we can get a consolidation. I won't be around tomorrow. Any of you guys doing anything cool for 4th of July?
On July 04 2014 08:18 Chairman Ray wrote: Good point. There really isn't much else to go off though. Half the players were playing on day 1, and now the other half are playing. I'm fine with just lynching Snickers if we can get a consolidation. I won't be around tomorrow. Any of you guys doing anything cool for 4th of July?
I have potassium nitrate multi-K/GG
I will have a boring 4th just like everyone else nonetheless
Snickers (1): Alakaslam sinani206 (0): Chairman Ray Tehpoofter (2): sinani206, strongandbig Not Voting (4): Everyone else.
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Im going to work, I will be back in six hours. Who is stutters and what is the case on poofter? I am going to look at mm's filter in detail when I get back.
The case on poofter is that him being pushed by robik is a much more reasonable cause for robik to be killed than to frame you, plus robins case on iPod. Your think about looking at mislynched players over night killed ones is stupid.
On July 05 2014 05:51 strongandbig wrote: The case on poofter is that him being pushed by robik is a much more reasonable cause for robik to be killed than to frame you, plus robins case on iPod. Your think about looking at mislynched players over night killed ones is stupid.
What does the bold mean. And also my "think" I asked all of you what was bettert and no one anwsered me. The last game and only game of mafia I played before this, they all said nightkills were too much of a guess and that flipped town players would have been truthful so thier filters were better. Nightkills could of died from their filter or not. Mislynchs just happened to be mislynched.
Also walked to work.... and apparently we are closed.
On July 05 2014 05:51 strongandbig wrote: The case on poofter is that him being pushed by robik is a much more reasonable cause for robik to be killed than to frame you, plus robins case on iPod. Your think about looking at mislynched players over night killed ones is stupid.
I agree misslynched players aren't as informative as night kills.
What makes you think I'm mafia? I realize No one has really played so its probably a thin read but I dont understand the part about hte iPoD think and who is robin?
On July 01 2014 14:10 IAmRobik wrote: Also, in case you decide to mislynch me, remember that tomorrow you should go ahead and elect a town mayor. Someone who town unanimously decides is town. That person should have a great say and final say in who gets lynched (after much deliberation). The reason for this is that town needs to unite and all vote to lynch people. It is pretty clear that we are incompetent and incapable of doing so without one, as it's 72hours into the game and there hasn't even been a semblance of a wagon on someone -- there also hasn't been a good case against ANYONE ---- not even mine really against poofter or CR
This is a good post and might be a good idea to do. I wonder if this is why Robik died.
I don't know who I really consider super town atm tbh.
Well I was going to consider it but no one anwsers a quesiton for over 2 days? So how the hell are we going to get a mayor with that type of dedication.
So Robik had that read on me but during the night if you read his filter he has plenty of posts attacking other people mainly snickers. Even talks about how SNB and him are going to get him lynched the next day.
SNB why choose me over the read you and robik felt most strongly about the next day?
Can we get some action in here tonight I know its july 4th but I'm super fucking scared with these votes on me especially when a mafia wakes up comes into thread with a bs read and hammer's me. (assuming mafia isn't on me already)
On June 29 2014 08:24 Snickers wrote: I think the bh scum advice is to make jokes about a topic when someone call you scum. He is not being cryptic it is more of a "let me be overly complicated with my posts because I like to look awesome!". Its annoying just because its so forced and it is also annoying because it is scummy in a way but not so scummy people actually vote for them. So they just cause unneeded confusion all game. Personally I think it should count as playing against your win condition when your town. Being confusing to look cool is just a hassle.
Also ET I do not see how it is excessively negative, I could maybe see negative. I was joking first off. Yes there will be bad players in this game (my second game, first has not even ended but I am dead). If you could not see the only weird post above mine and I had to point it out for you...... hopefully this is your first game.... but wait that would be breaking the rules unless you talked to bh.... oh wait how many people actually read the rules...
As far as IML its instant majority lynch that means that if somebody else hoped into this thread and voted for me, then both mafia players voted for me, it would then probably be 5 town vs 2 mafia. It is also bad because we want to wait as close to 72 hours as possible before lynch.
I do no think its in vogue. But why are you not complaining about slam being constructive? He does not explain a term but I have to quote..... already we are divided.
If you think I was answering questions here (robik did not think so) that is why he "thought" I was scum. And if you read my other post about it, If he actually "thought" I was scum he would of made a case for me and posted it before his death since he thought he was going to die. He said he was unsure about me then, I was magically "scum" for disagreeing with him.
So three reasons why he did not actually think I am scum, and he was just getting angry. This is why scum killed him. People see that I was the last person he was posting to a lot and called scum. Scum know people do not read carefully. Exactly how I was the only one that caught ET doing something that made no sense.
On June 29 2014 08:24 Snickers wrote: I think the bh scum advice is to make jokes about a topic when someone call you scum. He is not being cryptic it is more of a "let me be overly complicated with my posts because I like to look awesome!". Its annoying just because its so forced and it is also annoying because it is scummy in a way but not so scummy people actually vote for them. So they just cause unneeded confusion all game. Personally I think it should count as playing against your win condition when your town. Being confusing to look cool is just a hassle.
Also ET I do not see how it is excessively negative, I could maybe see negative. I was joking first off. Yes there will be bad players in this game (my second game, first has not even ended but I am dead). If you could not see the only weird post above mine and I had to point it out for you...... hopefully this is your first game.... but wait that would be breaking the rules unless you talked to bh.... oh wait how many people actually read the rules...
As far as IML its instant majority lynch that means that if somebody else hoped into this thread and voted for me, then both mafia players voted for me, it would then probably be 5 town vs 2 mafia. It is also bad because we want to wait as close to 72 hours as possible before lynch.
I do no think its in vogue. But why are you not complaining about slam being constructive? He does not explain a term but I have to quote..... already we are divided.
If you think I was answering questions here (robik did not think so) that is why he "thought" I was scum. And if you read my other post about it, If he actually "thought" I was scum he would of made a case for me and posted it before his death since he thought he was going to die. He said he was unsure about me then, I was magically "scum" for disagreeing with him.
So three reasons why he did not actually think I am scum, and he was just getting angry. This is why scum killed him. People see that I was the last person he was posting to a lot and called scum. Scum know people do not read carefully. Exactly how I was the only one that caught ET doing something that made no sense.
I could see that I'm really not sure who to vote. I feel like Robik had to be right about someone or he wouldn't die (unless he was wrong on everyone) I mean he was pretty townie over night.
I might vote sinani or Slam atm. Slam freely voting at first I thought was more townie but I feel like he might use his trolliness to his mafia advantage what you think about those to snickers?
On July 05 2014 08:08 Tehpoofter wrote: So Robik had that read on me but during the night if you read his filter he has plenty of posts attacking other people mainly snickers. Even talks about how SNB and him are going to get him lynched the next day.
SNB why choose me over the read you and robik felt most strongly about the next day?
Can we get some action in here tonight I know its july 4th but I'm super fucking scared with these votes on me especially when a mafia wakes up comes into thread with a bs read and hammer's me. (assuming mafia isn't on me already)
On July 05 2014 07:57 Tehpoofter wrote: Just reread SnB's post I think it is suppose to say "The case robik made on Poof"
This is the way of chupazi. The word is always capitalized because I use my iPhone so often in here that autocorrection is second nature. I have even trained a lot of it's habits now.
Others don't so often, so handles get messed with. SNB was using his own apple product when he posted that.
On June 29 2014 08:24 Snickers wrote: I think the bh scum advice is to make jokes about a topic when someone call you scum. He is not being cryptic it is more of a "let me be overly complicated with my posts because I like to look awesome!". Its annoying just because its so forced and it is also annoying because it is scummy in a way but not so scummy people actually vote for them. So they just cause unneeded confusion all game. Personally I think it should count as playing against your win condition when your town. Being confusing to look cool is just a hassle.
Also ET I do not see how it is excessively negative, I could maybe see negative. I was joking first off. Yes there will be bad players in this game (my second game, first has not even ended but I am dead). If you could not see the only weird post above mine and I had to point it out for you...... hopefully this is your first game.... but wait that would be breaking the rules unless you talked to bh.... oh wait how many people actually read the rules...
As far as IML its instant majority lynch that means that if somebody else hoped into this thread and voted for me, then both mafia players voted for me, it would then probably be 5 town vs 2 mafia. It is also bad because we want to wait as close to 72 hours as possible before lynch.
I do no think its in vogue. But why are you not complaining about slam being constructive? He does not explain a term but I have to quote..... already we are divided.
If you think I was answering questions here (robik did not think so) that is why he "thought" I was scum. And if you read my other post about it, If he actually "thought" I was scum he would of made a case for me and posted it before his death since he thought he was going to die. He said he was unsure about me then, I was magically "scum" for disagreeing with him.
So three reasons why he did not actually think I am scum, and he was just getting angry. This is why scum killed him. People see that I was the last person he was posting to a lot and called scum. Scum know people do not read carefully. Exactly how I was the only one that caught ET doing something that made no sense.
I could see that I'm really not sure who to vote. I feel like Robik had to be right about someone or he wouldn't die (unless he was wrong on everyone) I mean he was pretty townie over night.
I might vote sinani or Slam atm. Slam freely voting at first I thought was more townie but I feel like he might use his trolliness to his mafia advantage what you think about those to snickers?
The bold literally makes no sense to me. So wishy washy. Sinani still my top scum read. He does absolutley nothing day one excpet for his vote post which is indictive of mafia. Bh warns him of activity... BAM he posts in the thread. Says there is not much to comment on..... So two super scummy things.. one still scummy but not much as the other.
Like I said in the begining slam, is one of those people you do not lynch all game because of his playstyle. People were arguing this about sinani too but sinani's playstyle is more scummy to me. And we may only have this lynch and the next, so we should probably make more of it than "their play is scummy"
Also slam, Ofc I am paranoid. I knew people were going to think robik was calling me scum and logic dictates that mafia kill people calling them scum, Et comments after the nk and says he was pushing me. I even explained once (before ets posts)how he was not calling me scum. Then I explain again and poofter then says it. So i explain a third time now poofter understands.
To people talking about me going after meta a lot in other games; I couldn't comment on meta for a few players I wanted to, because their most recent / only other game was an ongoing game (namely mysterymeat and tehpoof). And aside, the only people I've played with / remember playing with are sinani and Strongandbig.
On June 29 2014 08:24 Snickers wrote: I think the bh scum advice is to make jokes about a topic when someone call you scum. He is not being cryptic it is more of a "let me be overly complicated with my posts because I like to look awesome!". Its annoying just because its so forced and it is also annoying because it is scummy in a way but not so scummy people actually vote for them. So they just cause unneeded confusion all game. Personally I think it should count as playing against your win condition when your town. Being confusing to look cool is just a hassle.
Also ET I do not see how it is excessively negative, I could maybe see negative. I was joking first off. Yes there will be bad players in this game (my second game, first has not even ended but I am dead). If you could not see the only weird post above mine and I had to point it out for you...... hopefully this is your first game.... but wait that would be breaking the rules unless you talked to bh.... oh wait how many people actually read the rules...
As far as IML its instant majority lynch that means that if somebody else hoped into this thread and voted for me, then both mafia players voted for me, it would then probably be 5 town vs 2 mafia. It is also bad because we want to wait as close to 72 hours as possible before lynch.
I do no think its in vogue. But why are you not complaining about slam being constructive? He does not explain a term but I have to quote..... already we are divided.
If you think I was answering questions here (robik did not think so) that is why he "thought" I was scum. And if you read my other post about it, If he actually "thought" I was scum he would of made a case for me and posted it before his death since he thought he was going to die. He said he was unsure about me then, I was magically "scum" for disagreeing with him.
So three reasons why he did not actually think I am scum, and he was just getting angry. This is why scum killed him. People see that I was the last person he was posting to a lot and called scum. Scum know people do not read carefully. Exactly how I was the only one that caught ET doing something that made no sense.
I could see that I'm really not sure who to vote. I feel like Robik had to be right about someone or he wouldn't die (unless he was wrong on everyone) I mean he was pretty townie over night.
I might vote sinani or Slam atm. Slam freely voting at first I thought was more townie but I feel like he might use his trolliness to his mafia advantage what you think about those to snickers?
The bold literally makes no sense to me. So wishy washy. Sinani still my top scum read. He does absolutley nothing day one excpet for his vote post which is indictive of mafia. Bh warns him of activity... BAM he posts in the thread. Says there is not much to comment on..... So two super scummy things.. one still scummy but not much as the other.
Like I said in the begining slam, is one of those people you do not lynch all game because of his playstyle. People were arguing this about sinani too but sinani's playstyle is more scummy to me. And we may only have this lynch and the next, so we should probably make more of it than "their play is scummy"
Also slam, Ofc I am paranoid. I knew people were going to think robik was calling me scum and logic dictates that mafia kill people calling them scum, Et comments after the nk and says he was pushing me. I even explained once (before ets posts)how he was not calling me scum. Then I explain again and poofter then says it. So i explain a third time now poofter understands.
Its wishy Washy cause I truthfully don't have a lot of reads more of a gut feeling on sinani and slam. Going to vote sinani and see where we end up a nl would be bad so we need to get some votes coming in in the next 3 hours
On July 05 2014 11:32 EchelonTee wrote: To people talking about me going after meta a lot in other games; I couldn't comment on meta for a few players I wanted to, because their most recent / only other game was an ongoing game (namely mysterymeat and tehpoof). And aside, the only people I've played with / remember playing with are sinani and Strongandbig.
I was mainly curious if you use night kill info a lot in your reads cause that was your big post upon day start. Is that something you like to do/think is valuable?
On July 05 2014 11:50 Alakaslam wrote: Pooft why are you going after sinani?
Look at this.
Pooft if everyone is scum then you are, someone who accuses everyone is usually actually scum.
Like I want you to list everyone you have not accused this game
I have only voted Sinani.
I have said robik, snickers, sinani, ET, you. I think SnB MysteryMeat and CR really the only three.
The only reason I'm going after sinani is gut like I could be swayed elsewhere but there isn't much in this game. I need some content to form reads and its just not happening.
On July 05 2014 11:49 EchelonTee wrote: situational. I posted that because I really did not expect robik to die
Fair enough. I use it sometimes but its never the sole basis of a read. I feel like I have nothing in this game I'm literally grasping at straws there is just not much to go on. I'm also bad at gut reads so I hope I suddenly got good with sinani.
you or sinani. it's funny though because you saying
I feel like I have nothing in this game I'm literally grasping at straws there is just not much to go on.
resonates with me really well atm
The problem with sinani is that he can be an easy mislynch when he plays ultra lurky. I'm not done going through his past games; his most recent games were all town. One of them he was mislynched D1 (world cup) with acitivity posting style sorta similar to this games. The other two (boardwalk, Order 66) he was a lot more active and more obvious town.
Overall though I think he is scum, because his posting in this game is SUPER SPARSE and uncaring, even by the standards of htis low post game. One of my first games I remember being on his scum team and he was similarly super hyper lurky.
I feel like I have nothing in this game I'm literally grasping at straws there is just not much to go on.
resonates with me really well atm
The problem with sinani is that he can be an easy mislynch when he plays ultra lurky. I'm not done going through his past games; his most recent games were all town. One of them he was mislynched D1 (world cup) with acitivity posting style sorta similar to this games. The other two (boardwalk, Order 66) he was a lot more active and more obvious town.
Overall though I think he is scum, because his posting in this game is SUPER SPARSE and uncaring, even by the standards of htis low post game. One of my first games I remember being on his scum team and he was similarly super hyper lurky.
This is the slowest game I've ever played on this site and I'm not a big fan. I prefer large fast games I get more reads from interactions than anything else.
It's funny isn't it; sometimes the game is too much spam and that sucks crap, can't remember anything. Then you get the opposite which blows as well
I'm voting sinani. it's possible he is bored townie but the extreme lurkyness can't be overlooked imo. In such a lurky game, scum being lurkster is a viable strat
On July 05 2014 12:28 EchelonTee wrote: It's funny isn't it; sometimes the game is too much spam and that sucks crap, can't remember anything. Then you get the opposite which blows as well
I'm voting sinani. it's possible he is bored townie but the extreme lurkyness can't be overlooked imo. In such a lurky game, scum being lurkster is a viable strat
sinani206 the Hapless Crewmember has been lynched!
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Random thoughts in case I die. Warning, crappy logic inc:
Town: Me
Slam: I think Slam is town mostly from gut feeling / he seems to have genuine interest in trying to get town to talk. He could be a Mafia posing, which would not be too hard, but if he is scum we already lost.
I dunno: Strongandbig: I’m pretty torn on SnB because he hasn’t done anything really suspicious and has helped organize votes and such, but something just feels off. I’ve played with SnB a few times iirc and I remember him being more active / organiz-y than this. However with such a slow game he can’t be solely blamed for that.
Tehpoof: My initial read on Tehpoof was that he was scummy based on his active lurking D1. What I mean by active lurking is he was definitely around, but was doing a lot of 1 liners early on, eventually settling on Robik which was a lynch that was never going to happen. However his D2 seemed pretty genuine in his questioning. Once again, it would not be hard for scum to fake this so I don’t consider him auto townie. Also, though Robik was against him, my impression was that the main reason he didn't like tehpoof was because tehpoof was going after Robik. OMGUS essentially. I don't think that tehpoof pushing Robik automatically makes him scummy, town make mistakes.
Scummy: Chairman Ray – Looking back at his D1 play I still think the way he talked was scummy. Robik thought he was scum. A good lynch IMO.
Snickers – In his last game he had good reads but was abrasive about it. This game he is similarly abrasive but I don’t feel he has the same interest in formulating good reads. Another thing is our weird disagreements / his arguments with Robik. In my eyes there are two possibilities; Townie Snickers thinks about Mafia in a different way than I, so we simply don’t understand each other. Or, Scum Snickers jerks around town, using arguing with people as a way to be active without generating focused, useful content. His strange emotions coupled with what I think is less focused play than would be expected from town Snickers makes me think he is scum.
Cases look weak? Well I don’t have much to go off on. But if someone gave me two bullets to decide the game, I would shoot CR and Snickers.
Welcome to Day 3. With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch. If no majority is reached in 72 hours, by Wednesday, Jul 09 5:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) the day will end in a no-lynch.
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I think I figured it out. The two mafia are Strongandbig and Snickers.
Snickers is mafia for the cases I have already posted on him.
Strongandbig is mafia because on day 1, he played a very routine town, but since then he completely dropped off. The 4 posts that he made on day 2 show that he's here and reading the thread, but there is a complete difference in his day 1 play and day 2 play. He did not pressure anybody and he didn't make any reads. This is because everyone thought he was town on day 1. It is very scummy to stop being helpful after being given the town spotlight. I would vote SnB for this alone, but there's more.
Strongandbig spent the whole first day pushing onto Snickers, and posted many cases on why Snickers is scum. Afterwards Strongandbig encourages everyone to post multiple people they want to lynch. A lot of people wanted to lynch Snickers, and a lot of people wanted to lynch MM. However, despite Strongandbig having such a strong scumread on Snickers, he then posts this:
On July 01 2014 11:33 strongandbig wrote: im down with the teetrain for now
playin some doto and dont really feel like trying to convince people to lynch snickers, plus i'm not sure enough on him to justify killing one of the most active people
##unvote ##vote: mysterymeat
That reason for voting MM is extremely scummy. SnB calls his own reads not good enough, which sounds like he's anticipating that people will scumread him for voting MM, so he's pre-emptively defending himself. The reason why SnB wanted everyone to post many people they were willing to consolidate on was so that he can look for a way to get the lynch off Snickers. After starting the consolidation thing, SnB didn't come back until after everyone else decided to consolidate on MM. SnB is clearly not trying to lead a town play.
On day 2, SnB says that poofter and Snickers are scum. He votes poofter because poofter benefited from Robik's death. SnB didn't post anything in regards to poofter's play or filter. SnB is really forcing a reason to vote poofter. SnB says he still wants to lynch Snickers, but doesn't do anything on day 2 to push snickers, or encourage anybody else to vote Snickers. Snickers is clearly getting some sort of special attention from SnB.
tl;dr SnB is very helpful, everyone calls him town, then stops being helpful SnB's strongest scumread is on Snickers, but finds a way to vote MM and poofter instead.
Thing is, if any townie votes another townie and scum are paying attention they can just hammer. We should try and work out a lynch in the thread. I'm "voting" snickers
On June 30 2014 23:37 strongandbig wrote: I would lynch:
- snickers, for srs this time. (1) complains about getting hit with rvs, seems to care way too much about one or two votes. Not necessarily scum but a yellow flag at least. (2) more importantly - I want to lynch him for this post, and the ones that follow it:
On June 30 2014 06:48 EchelonTee wrote: Chairman, I'm curious what you think about MysteryMeat (MM)'s list. Specifically his town read on you
Similar impressions as me. He didn't include Snickers, who is the most active player so far. I would personally slot Snickers under slightly scummy just because he's taking some little things a bit too serious.
I think you should be more concerned with that he kept me off his list. It seems like you were but then you got distracted.
Meh look at my meta, I am the most misunderstood mafia player on tl after Bh. I do not go crazy like some people (2 people in this game want to mislead), My "seriousness" is that I am playing to keep stuff organized and clear.
Someone wanted to know my read on Slam.
Slam-bad town (throwing quick votes around and Some post above this one was weird) StrongNBig-bad town (Throwing quick votes around and only having one post to look at) Et-bad town (already is super confused with my posts so he hinks he is right and I am wrong)
Do not get offended if you are on that list. I have a small sample size of posts. This is also why I do not read anyone as scum yet. Way too few posts and usually you need to link posts to prior posts.
This and the follow-ups read to me like he's trying too hard to fit an image of what "TL townies play like". The emotion doesn't read as genuine to me, there's no reason for it. Instead it feels like he's trying to force an image.
A meat lynch would be okay with me atm, or at least preferable to no lynch. There's the thing et pointed out, plus I don't like that he called robik his "top town read" at a point when robik had made two posts - one a joke and one saying he was not reading the thread. I want to hear from meat - what motivated you to put robik as top?
But right now I'd rather lynch snickers.
The irony. And who put pooft in a bad spot yesterday? You, Slam and Sinani. Two of the people I was complaining about there.
This is a general inactivity warning, and the last inactivity warning that will take place this game. You are all warned for inactivity. Any player who has not made at least 3 posts in the last 48 hours AND 1 post in the last 24 hours at the deadline in just under 11 hours will be modkilled, and any player who has not voted will be modkilled.
Here is my case on SNB. He has had a "Case" on me since day one. That case consisted of 1. Me freaking out about votes and 2. My emotion. My "freaking" has proved to be correct since on day two my thought of people allowing 2 scum to hammer happened (the only way my freaking is wrong is if he is scum since slam and sinani flipped town) . So him suggesting me as scum now based on my emotion is a terrible case. He also switches from poofter to me with no reasoning. He wants to jump on CR and ET lynching me if he can.
Other things to note. Replied to someone by saying "but his content is scummy" instead of explaining in more detail he just says this. Said "I will not lynch the other four people in this game" this is just a weird thing to say (not so weird as it could be the only thing to lynch someone on) Said "Justify killing one of the most active players" So he does not want to kill active players but does not go after sinani day one or day two.
Cr said something like SNB did nothing day two. I agree, he did noting worthwhile day two and just allowed the sinani lynch to happen. Did not push me or poofter. It is also super scummy to lynch someone on the basis of only day one stuff when its day three.
The reason why I have not posted anything until SNB did more scummy stuff was because I was waiting for ET to talk about slams death. He made multiple posts talking about the death and also his "three posts" were to mislead people. So I find it weird were the lynch deadline is coming up, and he still has not commented on it.
So without making a detailed case on ET, him not dying even though he has been seen as most town is weird. Coming in after the first night kill and trying to push a vote on me and also being what I consider misleading (popping into the thread and suggesting someone is scum day two based on day one stuff or nk stuff, right away so that is only what people focus on. Also his post right before day three started is all on bad reads? If you want me to break it down sentence by sentence I will, but it is based on day one things with no day two considered and he has terrible reasoning for reads as in not logical.
So my vote will be for SNB (weird how he finally takes my advice day three about voting in this thread) but Et explain this scummy play.
On July 06 2014 12:40 EchelonTee wrote: Random thoughts in case I die. Warning, crappy logic inc:
Town: Me
Slam: I think Slam is town mostly from gut feeling / he seems to have genuine interest in trying to get town to talk. He could be a Mafia posing, which would not be too hard, but if he is scum we already lost.
I dunno: Strongandbig: I’m pretty torn on SnB because he hasn’t done anything really suspicious and has helped organize votes and such, but something just feels off. I’ve played with SnB a few times iirc and I remember him being more active / organiz-y than this. However with such a slow game he can’t be solely blamed for that.
Tehpoof: My initial read on Tehpoof was that he was scummy based on his active lurking D1. What I mean by active lurking is he was definitely around, but was doing a lot of 1 liners early on, eventually settling on Robik which was a lynch that was never going to happen. However his D2 seemed pretty genuine in his questioning. Once again, it would not be hard for scum to fake this so I don’t consider him auto townie. Also, though Robik was against him, my impression was that the main reason he didn't like tehpoof was because tehpoof was going after Robik. OMGUS essentially. I don't think that tehpoof pushing Robik automatically makes him scummy, town make mistakes.
Scummy: Chairman Ray – Looking back at his D1 play I still think the way he talked was scummy. Robik thought he was scum. A good lynch IMO.
Snickers – In his last game he had good reads but was abrasive about it. This game he is similarly abrasive but I don’t feel he has the same interest in formulating good reads. Another thing is our weird disagreements / his arguments with Robik. In my eyes there are two possibilities; Townie Snickers thinks about Mafia in a different way than I, so we simply don’t understand each other. Or, Scum Snickers jerks around town, using arguing with people as a way to be active without generating focused, useful content. His strange emotions coupled with what I think is less focused play than would be expected from town Snickers makes me think he is scum.
Cases look weak? Well I don’t have much to go off on. But if someone gave me two bullets to decide the game, I would shoot CR and Snickers.
Does anyone actually have a case on me. This case is wishy washy as hell, talks about my "emotions" which for some reason people think my emotions are scummy ( I have no clue what the hell this means or if this is even common? never heard of this before). And shit read my filter if you do not think what I have done has been useful ( I made the best case on sinani while ET prty much used his day one reasoning? well why not vote him day one) I also predicted the voting causing problems like it did day two.
Sorry for the barrage of posts. Anyway CR what is your case on me and poofter where do you stand in general.
Tehpoofter the Hapless Crewmember has been modkilled for inactivity and for not voting! EchelonTee the Hapless Crewmember has been modkilled for inactivity and for not voting! strongandbig the Hapless Crewmember has been modkilled for inactivity and for not voting! Chairman Ray the Aprahanti Battlecruiser has been modkilled for inactivity!
Snickers the Aphranti Battlecruiser is victorious!
To those of you who were modkilled: you were all of you warned, some of you multiple times, via PM and in thread. The rules for the voting requirement were clear, and I also specifically PMed you all reminding you to vote. There was no confusion over whether it was legal to not vote in the event of a day timing out. I also specifically laid out activity requirements, which were ignored.
Despite not following my activity requirements that I laid out, Chairman Ray successfully cast a vote. This sole act amazingly puts him in the top half of the lylo players, so I will let him off with a warning. I'll see the rest of you in the ban list thread.
Despite this sad ending, I had a lot of fun hosting-- I hope everyone had fun taking part. Thanks for playing!
What I can gather is last people to vote are likely scum hoping they can hammer a townie
But they may know this so there is WIFOM
Think before hammer we have this luxury of time. For now, I think SNB has the right idea
snickers
I thought slam was cop because he hammered twice. He would not let himself get lynched by claiming day three. Also vig woulda shot bullet day one. After I awhile i stopped thinking he was cop (thought this was an all vanilla game) but still lynched him because I thought he had the best chance of being cop. CR thought this too.
After he was revealed, I read this in his filer, I think this with also the double hammer is what made me think he was cop.
I would like to extend thanks to my co-hosts, HaruRH and The_Templar. They did a good job of co-hosting this game, and I couldn't have done it without them.
I'd also like to congratulate the winning team for a game well fought. Although it may not seem like much, you guys did what was necessary to win the game.
On July 09 2014 14:29 Snickers wrote: What about the only person to survive was the first person to get a vote on them . Only one person surviving is rare right?
In most setups, only one person surviving only happens when scum wins at 2-1 LYLO.
Not saying I did nothing scummy, but what were the cases on me? I feel like they were either inaccurate or more on my play style as both town and mafia. I feel like a lot of town players played more scummy than I did.
Shit the best case on me day three would probably of been( as in this would of been better than all cases posted), both slam and robik pushed me and they both died. Also I voted for both mislynchs. Two of those three things were never mentioned.
Snickers - just browsed your filter and inside it I came on ET's mini-paragraph on you. What he said was essentially correct, it was a decent enough case for you being mafia.
On July 06 2014 12:40 EchelonTee wrote: Random thoughts in case I die. Warning, crappy logic inc:
Town: Me
Slam: I think Slam is town mostly from gut feeling / he seems to have genuine interest in trying to get town to talk. He could be a Mafia posing, which would not be too hard, but if he is scum we already lost.
I dunno: Strongandbig: I’m pretty torn on SnB because he hasn’t done anything really suspicious and has helped organize votes and such, but something just feels off. I’ve played with SnB a few times iirc and I remember him being more active / organiz-y than this. However with such a slow game he can’t be solely blamed for that.
Tehpoof: My initial read on Tehpoof was that he was scummy based on his active lurking D1. What I mean by active lurking is he was definitely around, but was doing a lot of 1 liners early on, eventually settling on Robik which was a lynch that was never going to happen. However his D2 seemed pretty genuine in his questioning. Once again, it would not be hard for scum to fake this so I don’t consider him auto townie. Also, though Robik was against him, my impression was that the main reason he didn't like tehpoof was because tehpoof was going after Robik. OMGUS essentially. I don't think that tehpoof pushing Robik automatically makes him scummy, town make mistakes.
Scummy: Chairman Ray – Looking back at his D1 play I still think the way he talked was scummy. Robik thought he was scum. A good lynch IMO.
Snickers – In his last game he had good reads but was abrasive about it. This game he is similarly abrasive but I don’t feel he has the same interest in formulating good reads. Another thing is our weird disagreements / his arguments with Robik. In my eyes there are two possibilities; Townie Snickers thinks about Mafia in a different way than I, so we simply don’t understand each other. Or, Scum Snickers jerks around town, using arguing with people as a way to be active without generating focused, useful content. His strange emotions coupled with what I think is less focused play than would be expected from town Snickers makes me think he is scum.
Cases look weak? Well I don’t have much to go off on. But if someone gave me two bullets to decide the game, I would shoot CR and Snickers.
yes. It's kinda just a feel thing. I mean I know I know your alignment now, but i remember your play in... somewhere, and ET's distinction sounds about right.
yea that is the problem of trying to judge something with more information than others. If I had to guess as me playing town, I would see that is super wishy washy.
He also does not state what makes the disagreements weird.
Then he admits his case may look weak? Idk it was more of let me say stuff incase I die post rather than a case post.
I don't like the idea of being banned for not voting at lylo in an instant majority game. If townies vote each other scum can instantly hammer. Like, if any townies aren't around then town will lose anyway, so the only valid course for a townie is not to vote until the other townies show up, accepting the risk of a no lynch.
If my ban is just for "not enough posts" then okay but I don't think it's good policy to require an actual vote rather than an expression of the intention to vote.
On July 09 2014 19:18 marvellosity wrote: yes. It's kinda just a feel thing. I mean I know I know your alignment now, but i remember your play in... somewhere, and ET's distinction sounds about right.
The problem is ET kinda called everyone mafia in his post and ended up in "idk anything for reals" conclusion which makes the post by default not convincing.
On July 10 2014 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: It works when you play against people like you who can never get anyone lynched.
Called you mafia off of one post. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Meta read too strong. It's good though. You made the smart play in that game. You killed me off cause even though "i can't get anyone lynched" you knew that you couldn't win with me in the game.
Well it's true. I've played games where i have done nothing but called people's cases and pretty much everything bad. If you can get away with it and throw the town off why not?
On July 10 2014 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: It works when you play against people like you who can never get anyone lynched.
Called you mafia off of one post. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Meta read too strong. It's good though. You made the smart play in that game. You killed me off cause even though "i can't get anyone lynched" you knew that you couldn't win with me in the game.
Except that in every game you have made this "awesome read" you have called me town after that.
On July 10 2014 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: It works when you play against people like you who can never get anyone lynched.
Called you mafia off of one post. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Meta read too strong. It's good though. You made the smart play in that game. You killed me off cause even though "i can't get anyone lynched" you knew that you couldn't win with me in the game.
Except that in every game you have made this "awesome read" you have called me town after that.
It's a good thing that by the end of the game I end up pushing you anyway. I'm allowed to waffle my reads at times. Doesn't mean that the original read is wrong.
The only game I wasn't pushing you 100% was the game where mocsta came in to save the day.
On July 10 2014 00:14 IAmRobik wrote: Snickers plays just like Rayn when he's mafia. He lies and then when he's called out on it he just says "you're lying" over and over. Good style.
On July 01 2014 06:00 mderg wrote: Overall you´re not as scummy as haru because there actually are reasons to townread you but they´re not very strong reasons.
On July 01 2014 06:18 HaruRH wrote: I want to make a meme for mderg
"Overall you´re not as scummy as haru because there actually are reasons to townread you but they´re not very strong reasons."
Not a single reason stated why robik could be townread.
thread sentiment was that robik is town because of his fakeclaims and being emotional about the sinani lynch. These are the reasons he could be townread for.
So you townread people because of thread sentiment? Wtf? Best reason 2014 Next you're telling me robik is town because it consist of 5 letters, like mderg while haru is 4 letters so hes scum
Yeah, but I did that as town. I haven't done that as mafia. Like, you can't call me out on calling out someone for lying or misrepresenting facts. People who lie should get lynched. End of story.
On July 09 2014 21:18 strongandbig wrote: I don't like the idea of being banned for not voting at lylo in an instant majority game. If townies vote each other scum can instantly hammer. Like, if any townies aren't around then town will lose anyway, so the only valid course for a townie is not to vote until the other townies show up, accepting the risk of a no lynch.
If my ban is just for "not enough posts" then okay but I don't think it's good policy to require an actual vote rather than an expression of the intention to vote.
I don't like the idea of literally nobody in the town voting or posting meaningfully for the last 96 hours of a LYLO game. The rules were clear, I warned you multiple times, you refused to play the game, now you're gonna get banned. Shit, if you actually have a scumread, there's nothing wrong with voting him.
Also, if you'd been in the thread making lots of posts, clearly active, and trying to keep the thread moving, and it just turns out the other guys never turned up, I might be inclined not to seek a ban. That's not what happened here though. This isn't SnB being killed over a technicality. He made 1 post in the final 96 hours, never voted, and never meaningfully tried to play the game.
I agree with Blazinghand. The last phases were awful regarding activity. Even worse is people not voting, you possibly can't win as town if you do not vote on LYLO!
Snickers argument with me was so painfully scummy. It's a good thing that no one wanted to play the game cause we could have actually lynch snickers or CR on d1 instead of MM
On July 10 2014 05:08 Snickers wrote: I probably would of done the same thing if I was town sadly. I must learn how to seem town all the time rather than scummy all the time.
Yeah no worries man. Calling Robik mafia is not scummy because he screams "yo ppl call me mafia".
Is Snickers a smurf? How does he know this? I had BH as a coach for me before and he never gave me this advice..... I read this post and have 0 feelings about it. It says nothing with a lot of words. It's active without being active. He also does that mafia thing (which ritoky is so keen to point out usually) or just responding to peoples' questions line for line, question after question as if it's a homework assignment.
On June 29 2014 08:24 Snickers wrote: I think the bh scum advice is to make jokes about a topic when someone call you scum. He is not being cryptic it is more of a "let me be overly complicated with my posts because I like to look awesome!". Its annoying just because its so forced and it is also annoying because it is scummy in a way but not so scummy people actually vote for them. So they just cause unneeded confusion all game. Personally I think it should count as playing against your win condition when your town. Being confusing to look cool is just a hassle.
Also ET I do not see how it is excessively negative, I could maybe see negative. I was joking first off. Yes there will be bad players in this game (my second game, first has not even ended but I am dead). If you could not see the only weird post above mine and I had to point it out for you...... hopefully this is your first game.... but wait that would be breaking the rules unless you talked to bh.... oh wait how many people actually read the rules...
As far as IML its instant majority lynch that means that if somebody else hoped into this thread and voted for me, then both mafia players voted for me, it would then probably be 5 town vs 2 mafia. It is also bad because we want to wait as close to 72 hours as possible before lynch.
I do no think its in vogue. But why are you not complaining about slam being constructive? He does not explain a term but I have to quote..... already we are divided.
There's nothing particularly towny about this post, but the tone of it reads so fucking genuine that I'd be surprised if a mafia cared so much and so strongly about someone bashing townies: I
On June 29 2014 08:24 Snickers wrote: Also ET I do not see how it is excessively negative, I could maybe see negative. I was joking first off. Yes there will be bad players in this game (my second game, first has not even ended but I am dead). If you could not see the only weird post above mine and I had to point it out for you...... hopefully this is your first game.... but wait that would be breaking the rules unless you talked to bh.... oh wait how many people actually read the rules...
If you were joking then w.e, I just think it is excessively negative to tell someone to let themself be modkilled if they don't see the thread in the exact same way that you do. Calling everyone bad who doesn't see eye to eye with you is both 1. not conducive to good town environment 2. douchey. but since you were joking, w.e. There are people who aren't joking when they say things like "god you are so fn terrible town would be better if you suicided", etc.
Simply put, I don't like how people often bash town, and in a game like this we are in the best position to subvert that to town advantage. I'm not trying to exclusively single you out, but it is a common thread in most mafia games. Yeah, in most games there are often townie lurkers. Yeah there are often townies who don't explain themself at all. But unlike 30man games where those kinds of things are nearly unavoidable, this is a 9 man game. There aren't many places for scum to hide. So, if we foster an environment where people feel at ease talking discussing sharing reads, it puts a lot more pressure on scum to act, perform.
I do no think its in vogue. But why are you not complaining about slam being constructive? He does not explain a term but I have to quote..... already we are divided.
Are you sure, I am not complaining about slam? pls read thread bettr lul
How about answer my question then.
No you are wasting so many points asking a question that has no end.
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