EPTOn July 06 2014 09:49 Alakaslam wrote:
This isn't lurk this is inactivity
This isn't lurk this is inactivity
truth
We are going to end up rolling dice to figure this one out. A Fire Upon the Deep Mini Mafia - Page 21
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Tehpoofter
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truth We are going to end up rolling dice to figure this one out. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5251 Posts
Town: Me Slam: I think Slam is town mostly from gut feeling / he seems to have genuine interest in trying to get town to talk. He could be a Mafia posing, which would not be too hard, but if he is scum we already lost. I dunno: Strongandbig: I’m pretty torn on SnB because he hasn’t done anything really suspicious and has helped organize votes and such, but something just feels off. I’ve played with SnB a few times iirc and I remember him being more active / organiz-y than this. However with such a slow game he can’t be solely blamed for that. Tehpoof: My initial read on Tehpoof was that he was scummy based on his active lurking D1. What I mean by active lurking is he was definitely around, but was doing a lot of 1 liners early on, eventually settling on Robik which was a lynch that was never going to happen. However his D2 seemed pretty genuine in his questioning. Once again, it would not be hard for scum to fake this so I don’t consider him auto townie. Also, though Robik was against him, my impression was that the main reason he didn't like tehpoof was because tehpoof was going after Robik. OMGUS essentially. I don't think that tehpoof pushing Robik automatically makes him scummy, town make mistakes. Scummy: Chairman Ray – Looking back at his D1 play I still think the way he talked was scummy. Robik thought he was scum. A good lynch IMO. Snickers – In his last game he had good reads but was abrasive about it. This game he is similarly abrasive but I don’t feel he has the same interest in formulating good reads. Another thing is our weird disagreements / his arguments with Robik. In my eyes there are two possibilities; Townie Snickers thinks about Mafia in a different way than I, so we simply don’t understand each other. Or, Scum Snickers jerks around town, using arguing with people as a way to be active without generating focused, useful content. His strange emotions coupled with what I think is less focused play than would be expected from town Snickers makes me think he is scum. Cases look weak? Well I don’t have much to go off on. But if someone gave me two bullets to decide the game, I would shoot CR and Snickers. | ||
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Blazinghand
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Blazinghand
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Day 3 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/49ZFJUxl.jpg) alakaslam the woodcarver has been shot! Welcome to Day 3. With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch. If no majority is reached in 72 hours, by Wednesday, Jul 09 5:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) the day will end in a no-lynch. Live ticker: remain. Remember, the voting thread is located here: (link). Only votes made in that thread count. | ||
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Snickers
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Alakaslam
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
Snickers is mafia for the cases I have already posted on him. Strongandbig is mafia because on day 1, he played a very routine town, but since then he completely dropped off. The 4 posts that he made on day 2 show that he's here and reading the thread, but there is a complete difference in his day 1 play and day 2 play. He did not pressure anybody and he didn't make any reads. This is because everyone thought he was town on day 1. It is very scummy to stop being helpful after being given the town spotlight. I would vote SnB for this alone, but there's more. Strongandbig spent the whole first day pushing onto Snickers, and posted many cases on why Snickers is scum. Afterwards Strongandbig encourages everyone to post multiple people they want to lynch. A lot of people wanted to lynch Snickers, and a lot of people wanted to lynch MM. However, despite Strongandbig having such a strong scumread on Snickers, he then posts this: On July 01 2014 11:33 strongandbig wrote: im down with the teetrain for now playin some doto and dont really feel like trying to convince people to lynch snickers, plus i'm not sure enough on him to justify killing one of the most active people ##unvote ##vote: mysterymeat That reason for voting MM is extremely scummy. SnB calls his own reads not good enough, which sounds like he's anticipating that people will scumread him for voting MM, so he's pre-emptively defending himself. The reason why SnB wanted everyone to post many people they were willing to consolidate on was so that he can look for a way to get the lynch off Snickers. After starting the consolidation thing, SnB didn't come back until after everyone else decided to consolidate on MM. SnB is clearly not trying to lead a town play. On day 2, SnB says that poofter and Snickers are scum. He votes poofter because poofter benefited from Robik's death. SnB didn't post anything in regards to poofter's play or filter. SnB is really forcing a reason to vote poofter. SnB says he still wants to lynch Snickers, but doesn't do anything on day 2 to push snickers, or encourage anybody else to vote Snickers. Snickers is clearly getting some sort of special attention from SnB. tl;dr SnB is very helpful, everyone calls him town, then stops being helpful SnB's strongest scumread is on Snickers, but finds a way to vote MM and poofter instead. Strongandbig and Snickers are mafia together. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25555 Posts
Vote Count – Day 3 Not Voting (5): Chairman Ray, Snickers, Tehpoofter, EchelonTee, strongandbig | ||
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Blazinghand
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EchelonTee has been warned for inactivity | ||
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Tehpoofter
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
I got back from Maine yesterday but I feel the same way as I did previously. My best guesses for mafia are snickers and poofter. | ||
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Chairman Ray
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
Thing is, if any townie votes another townie and scum are paying attention they can just hammer. We should try and work out a lynch in the thread. I'm "voting" snickers | ||
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Snickers
United States1575 Posts
On June 30 2014 23:37 strongandbig wrote: I would lynch: - snickers, for srs this time. (1) complains about getting hit with rvs, seems to care way too much about one or two votes. Not necessarily scum but a yellow flag at least. (2) more importantly - I want to lynch him for this post, and the ones that follow it: This and the follow-ups read to me like he's trying too hard to fit an image of what "TL townies play like". The emotion doesn't read as genuine to me, there's no reason for it. Instead it feels like he's trying to force an image. A meat lynch would be okay with me atm, or at least preferable to no lynch. There's the thing et pointed out, plus I don't like that he called robik his "top town read" at a point when robik had made two posts - one a joke and one saying he was not reading the thread. I want to hear from meat - what motivated you to put robik as top? But right now I'd rather lynch snickers. The irony. And who put pooft in a bad spot yesterday? You, Slam and Sinani. Two of the people I was complaining about there. | ||
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Snickers
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Blazinghand
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Snickers
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He has had a "Case" on me since day one. That case consisted of 1. Me freaking out about votes and 2. My emotion. My "freaking" has proved to be correct since on day two my thought of people allowing 2 scum to hammer happened (the only way my freaking is wrong is if he is scum since slam and sinani flipped town) . So him suggesting me as scum now based on my emotion is a terrible case. He also switches from poofter to me with no reasoning. He wants to jump on CR and ET lynching me if he can. Other things to note. Replied to someone by saying "but his content is scummy" instead of explaining in more detail he just says this. Said "I will not lynch the other four people in this game" this is just a weird thing to say (not so weird as it could be the only thing to lynch someone on) Said "Justify killing one of the most active players" So he does not want to kill active players but does not go after sinani day one or day two. Cr said something like SNB did nothing day two. I agree, he did noting worthwhile day two and just allowed the sinani lynch to happen. Did not push me or poofter. It is also super scummy to lynch someone on the basis of only day one stuff when its day three. | ||
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Snickers
United States1575 Posts
So without making a detailed case on ET, him not dying even though he has been seen as most town is weird. Coming in after the first night kill and trying to push a vote on me and also being what I consider misleading (popping into the thread and suggesting someone is scum day two based on day one stuff or nk stuff, right away so that is only what people focus on. Also his post right before day three started is all on bad reads? If you want me to break it down sentence by sentence I will, but it is based on day one things with no day two considered and he has terrible reasoning for reads as in not logical. So my vote will be for SNB (weird how he finally takes my advice day three about voting in this thread) but Et explain this scummy play. | ||
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Snickers
United States1575 Posts
On July 06 2014 12:40 EchelonTee wrote: Random thoughts in case I die. Warning, crappy logic inc: Town: Me Slam: I think Slam is town mostly from gut feeling / he seems to have genuine interest in trying to get town to talk. He could be a Mafia posing, which would not be too hard, but if he is scum we already lost. I dunno: Strongandbig: I’m pretty torn on SnB because he hasn’t done anything really suspicious and has helped organize votes and such, but something just feels off. I’ve played with SnB a few times iirc and I remember him being more active / organiz-y than this. However with such a slow game he can’t be solely blamed for that. Tehpoof: My initial read on Tehpoof was that he was scummy based on his active lurking D1. What I mean by active lurking is he was definitely around, but was doing a lot of 1 liners early on, eventually settling on Robik which was a lynch that was never going to happen. However his D2 seemed pretty genuine in his questioning. Once again, it would not be hard for scum to fake this so I don’t consider him auto townie. Also, though Robik was against him, my impression was that the main reason he didn't like tehpoof was because tehpoof was going after Robik. OMGUS essentially. I don't think that tehpoof pushing Robik automatically makes him scummy, town make mistakes. Scummy: Chairman Ray – Looking back at his D1 play I still think the way he talked was scummy. Robik thought he was scum. A good lynch IMO. Snickers – In his last game he had good reads but was abrasive about it. This game he is similarly abrasive but I don’t feel he has the same interest in formulating good reads. Another thing is our weird disagreements / his arguments with Robik. In my eyes there are two possibilities; Townie Snickers thinks about Mafia in a different way than I, so we simply don’t understand each other. Or, Scum Snickers jerks around town, using arguing with people as a way to be active without generating focused, useful content. His strange emotions coupled with what I think is less focused play than would be expected from town Snickers makes me think he is scum. Cases look weak? Well I don’t have much to go off on. But if someone gave me two bullets to decide the game, I would shoot CR and Snickers. Does anyone actually have a case on me. This case is wishy washy as hell, talks about my "emotions" which for some reason people think my emotions are scummy ( I have no clue what the hell this means or if this is even common? never heard of this before). And shit read my filter if you do not think what I have done has been useful ( I made the best case on sinani while ET prty much used his day one reasoning? well why not vote him day one) I also predicted the voting causing problems like it did day two. Sorry for the barrage of posts. Anyway CR what is your case on me and poofter where do you stand in general. | ||
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Snickers
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